Is LeBron the only superstar to win 2 Finals games

[Hey Yo]

or even win 1 Finals game w/o a teammate who's never been named to an all-NBA team or an all-star team?

referring to last seasons Finals.

[SCdac]

pretty sure kyrie made an AS game .. unless im misreading the question

[nba_55]

pretty sure kyrie made an AS game .. unless im misreading the question

Kyrie didn't play the 2 games they won.

[TommyGriffin]

:lol :lol :lol

[SCdac]

Kyrie didn't play the 2 games they won.

right right. for a min I thought he was asking if anyone had won w/o those players even on the roster (not just injured). clearly kyrie (and love to an extent) were important to getting to the playoffs in general. Lebron is definitely sick hope the cavs can stay healthy

[WorldWarriors]

I don't ever recall any Superstar taking a team to the finals like LEBRON did the first time he went. I know people like to draw lines in the sand when it comes to their faves but anybody with a brain can see what a great player he is. No player can win a championship without a great team.

[GrapeApe]

That's a pretty arbitrary accomplishment so you'd probably have to research every finals series and every all-star or all-NBA player to ever play in a finals. I'm certainly not doing that, but off the top of my head, maybe Hakeem in 1994.

[G0ATbe]

Marion?:facepalm

Fail thread.

[GrapeApe]

Marion?:facepalm

Fail thread.

Yeah, good call, and I'm dying at your avatar :oldlol:

[DaOldLion]

That's a pretty arbitrary accomplishment so you'd probably have to research every finals series and every all-star or all-NBA player to ever play in a finals. I'm certainly not doing that, but off the top of my head, maybe Hakeem in 1994.

lmao exactly

I'm sure there has been, but who cares enough to go through the losing teams in nba finals history with 1 or more wins in the series to find out?

Who seriously tries to find ways to celebrate losing ?

[72-10]

Probably not.

I would fathom that some of those George Mikan led teams in the early BAA years were like that, since they did not have their full careers in the BAA/NBA. Or did Slater Martin play on them at any point?

The next team I thought of was the 1974-75 Golden State Warriors, but Bill Bridges played with Rick Barry.

But these are only the champions. I'd bet there is a Finals loser who won two games and fits this criteria.

Anyways this question is lame since LeBron wouldn't have gotten to where he was without the help of Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving (or the team, of course, but I'm talking semantically).

[Donkey4trading]

I guess we will ignore JR Smith being 6 MOTY just two years prior

[Hey Yo]

Marion?:facepalm

Fail thread.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html

not even listed

[Donkey4trading]

78 sonics won three games

[GrapeApe]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html

not even listed

But Irving is listed :confusedshrug:

I guess you'd have to count him then.

[Donkey4trading]

But Irving is listed :confusedshrug:

I guess you'd have to count him then.

I don't think you understand how arbitrary he is trying to make this

[Hey Yo]

That's a pretty arbitrary accomplishment so you'd probably have to research every finals series and every all-star or all-NBA player to ever play in a finals. I'm certainly not doing that, but off the top of my head, maybe Hakeem in 1994.
Teammate Otis Thorpe, 1992 all-star

[72-10]

78 sonics won three games

Dennis Johnson and Jack Sikma both were All-Stars. DJ is in the Hall and Sikma is a candidate.

[Hey Yo]

But Irving is listed :confusedshrug:

I guess you'd have to count him then.
he wasn't part of or available for the winning games.

Neither was Marion

[knicksman]

dumbest poster strikes again:oldlol:

[72-10]

is this an honest question anyhow? it is so moot due to Love and Irving helping get the playoff positioning. It's part of the season. Kind of like how everyone on a team gets a ring if they played for the team that season.

[Straight_Ballin]

lmao exactly

I'm sure there has been, but who cares enough to go through the losing teams in nba finals history with 1 or more wins in the series to find out?

Who seriously tries to find ways to celebrate losing?
:lol

[GrapeApe]

he wasn't part of or available for the winning games.

Neither was Marion

Marion was available, he just didn't play. If you're going to make it more arbitrary you should at least edit the thread title and question.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Better question

Was the 07 Cavaliers, only team to get to the Finals with only ONE all-star and D-leagers?

Larry Hughes
Donny Marshal
Z
Boobie
Bron

:lol

[feyki]

In the same season?

Dirk,Kareem,Hakeem,Jordan ; i remember those for now .

[SouBeachTalents]

Better question

Was the 07 Cavaliers, only team to get to the Finals with only ONE all-star and D-leagers?

Larry Hughes
Donny Marshal
Z
Boobie
Bron

:lol

As in one all-star for the season? There are probably over a dozen teams that made the Finals with that criteria

[GrapeApe]

Better question

Was the 07 Cavaliers, only team to get to the Finals with only ONE all-star and D-leagers?

Larry Hughes
Donny Marshal
Z
Boobie
Bron

:lol

Big-Z was an all-star.

[SouBeachTalents]

In the same season?

Dirk,Kareem,Hakeem,Jordan ; i remember those for now .

Dude played with Oscar & Magic, no way is he included

[dhsilv]

Better question

Was the 07 Cavaliers, only team to get to the Finals with only ONE all-star and D-leagers?

Larry Hughes
Donny Marshal
Z
Boobie
Bron

:lol

3 of those guys were all stars just off the top of my head...more proof maybe being an all star isn't a big deal but still

[Hey Yo]

Marion was available, he just didn't play. If you're going to make it more arbitrary you should at least edit the thread title and question.
If he suited up and was listed as DNP (coaches choice) for each 6 games, I would agree and thread would have never been made.

[DaOldLion]

Dennis Johnson and Jack Sikma both were All-Stars. DJ is in the Hall and Sikma is a candidate.

Neither of those guys were all stars before or during 1978 doe so that poster wouldn't be wrong going off of the OP

[72-10]

In the same season?

Dirk,Kareem,Hakeem,Jordan ; i remember those for now .

No, you just fabricated that.

[72-10]

Better question

Was the 07 Cavaliers, only team to get to the Finals with only ONE all-star and D-leagers?

Larry Hughes
Donny Marshal
Z
Boobie
Bron

:lol

yeah talk about carrying a team

[DaOldLion]

Better question

Was the 07 Cavaliers, only team to get to the Finals with only ONE all-star and D-leagers?

Larry Hughes
Donny Marshal
Z
Boobie
Bron

:lol

that cast of "d league" players somehow only lost game the elimination game of the finals by one point when Lebron shot 30 times to score 24 points..

[GrapeApe]

3 of those guys were all stars just off the top of my head...more proof maybe being an all star isn't a big deal but still

Only about 6% of players in the league are an all-star in any given year, so it's still a pretty notable honor. However, a lot of guys are one or two year wonders, and that's why topics like this are silly. There have been players with mediocre careers who've made an all-star team, and players with great careers who were never selected.

[feyki]

Dude played with Oscar & Magic, no way is he included

Kareem won 3 finals games with zero all star teammates at 1974 .

[72-10]

the 2007 Finals was an embarrassment for the league

[72-10]

Kareem won 3 finals games with zero all star teammates at 1974 .

:cheers: good find. I think he's right. Although it had Oscar freakin Robertson on the team. I don't care if it was his last year, he's Oscar freakin Robertson. And then Bob Dandridge made the All-Star Game in 1973, 1975, 1976, etc., but of course not 1974.

arbitrary cutoffs ftw:rolleyes:

[Hey Yo]

Kareem won 3 finals games with zero all star teammates at 1974 .
thread is about teammates who were never elected as an all-star or all-NBA team in their career.

Kareem had the Big O

[WorldWarriors]

the 2007 Finals was an embarrassment for the league
I thought the ones with the Nets were worse. Especially Nets vs. Spurs. But the one with Shaq was bad too. It was hard to watch Todd McC getting brutalized by Shaq over and over again.

[72-10]

I thought the ones with the Nets were worse. Especially Nets vs. Spurs. But the one with Shaq was bad too. It was hard to watch Todd McC getting brutalized by Shaq over and over again.

Yep. the 2001 and 2002 Western Conference Finals were more entertaining than the Finals. the Kings were a great team that got robbed by the refs. Kidd was fantastic though. And Kobe was really bad.

[SouBeachTalents]

Yep. the 2001 and 2002 Western Conference Finals were more entertaining than the Finals. the Kings were a great team that got robbed by the refs. Kidd was fantastic though. And Kobe was really bad.

Lol, the WCF was actually significantly less competitive than the Finals in '01. And Kobe was really bad in the '02 Finals?

[HOoopCityJones]

Lol, the WCF was actually significantly less competitive than the Finals in '01. And Kobe was really bad in the '02 Finals?

He probably meant 00 when Kobe played on a bum ankle.

[feyki]

thread is about teammates who were never elected as an all-star or all-NBA team in their career.

Kareem had the Big O

Hmm .

75 Barry and 81 Moses hadn't 20+ minutes played all star teammates at finals. Calvin Murphy and Jeff Mullins are played less than 20 minutes at finals' .

[72-10]

Lol, the WCF was actually significantly less competitive than the Finals in '01. And Kobe was really bad in the '02 Finals?

whoops looks like i got my years muddled up

maybe in 01 but the Kings were more entertaining. Or was that Portland? I think it was Portland. I found the Portland-Lakers series entertaining.

anyways i meant the 01 Finals, i mean look at Kobe's shooting:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2001-nba-finals-76ers-vs-lakers.html

a piss poor 41% while taking almost as many shots as the most-efficient-player-to-ever-play Diesel Tanker whom he could have passed to inside. He ball-hogged.

and then the 2000 Finals for Kobe? 37% from the field on 90 shots in 6 games.

[Magic 32]

anyways i meant the 01 Finals, i mean look at Kobe's shooting:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2001-nba-finals-76ers-vs-lakers.html

a piss poor 41% while taking almost as many shots as the most-efficient-player-to-ever-play Diesel Tanker whom he could have passed to inside. He ball-hogged.


Game 2 -> Game 5

27.0 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 6.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.0 bpg, 44.0 fg%

Yes, a piss poor second option.

Those stats are comparable to Lebron's final MVP numbers in 2013.

[dubeta]

Game 2 -> Game 5

27.0 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 6.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.0 bpg, 44.0 fg%

Yes, a piss poor second option.

Those stats are comparable to Lebron's final MVP numbers in 2013.

Ok? Anyone can make numbers look good by limiting the games



LeBron Game 4- Game 7 2013


33/11/7 on 50%

[Magic 32]

Ok? Anyone can make numbers look good by limiting the games



LeBron Game 4- Game 7 2013


33/11/7 on 50%

Kobe destroyed the Spurs so bad in the WCF that the Lakers had 10 days off before the finals.

After getting off the rust in game 1 he had his best finals during the Shaq era.

If you call that making up numbers go ahead.

[72-10]

Game 2 -> Game 5

27.0 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 6.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.0 bpg, 44.0 fg%

Yes, a piss poor second option.

Those stats are comparable to Lebron's final MVP numbers in 2013.

wow did you know that the Finals consists of every game not just a few of them

[warriorfan]

Ok? Anyone can make numbers look good by limiting the games



LeBron Game 4- Game 7 2013


33/11/7 on 50%

meltdown?

[Magic 32]

wow did you know that the Finals consists of every game not just a few of them

Look at the above post.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Look at the above post.


He did, that's why it's quoted:lol

You clearly cherry pick games and leave out bad ones to prop up a player, it's quite pathetic and sad. I feel sorry you're so insecure about Kobe's poor performances you single them out:lol

[Magic 32]

He did, that's why it's quoted:lol

You clearly cherry pick games and leave out bad ones to prop up a player, it's quite pathetic and sad. I feel sorry you're so insecure about Kobe's poor performances you single them out:lol

So you missed my response. So sad.

Are you mentally ill?

10 days rest. Plays bad.

Then plays excellent in the remaining games.

cherry picking my a*s

[72-10]

Kobe destroyed the Spurs so bad in the WCF that the Lakers had 10 days off before the finals.

After getting off the rust in game 1 he had his best finals during the Shaq era.

If you call that making up numbers go ahead.

you seem to have gotten a little sidetracked with a defense of Kobe

yes I ripped on Kobe a little, but it was to establish my point, no other reason.

My point is that the Finals was not that entertaining to watch and it was partly because of Kobe and partly because the 2001 and 2002 WCF were fantastic (outside of the refs screwing the Kings, I didn't really like that part of it).