How many rings would kobe have...

[Real14]

...if he had Phil Jackson as coach his whole career?

[FreezingTsmoove]

11

[dhsilv]

...if he had Phil Jackson as coach his whole career?

5

and since i have to have 3 characters...well this does that.

[FreezingTsmoove]

5

and since i have to have 3 characters...well this does that.

**** off m8

[Hittin_Shots]

3..

[Real14]

3..
Still salty about 2010 I see:roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

Definitely more than the Knicks

[Real14]

Definitely more than the Knicks
Knicks- 2 legit rings
Heat- 3 asterisks

Knicks leads 3-2 in playoffs match ups against the heat too.

[LBJFTW]

He would have 7 rings

[DrakeTheSnake]

5.

[ShawkFactory]

If we're gonna give him Phil Jackson his entire career can we also make Kevin Garnett un-injured in 2009?

If so, 4 rings.

[HOoopCityJones]

8 rings like Kobe originally predicted.

[SpaceJam]

5.

That Dwight-Kobe duo MAY have won another one with Phil coaching but I can't say for sure

[3ball]

You guys are forgetting how much better MJ was

[3ball]

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Jordan's stats at 39 years old match Kobe's career averages -


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-24-2015/bQujRx.gif


^^^^^ this is from game #42 in 2002 season



Also, despite facing lower league-wide DRtg in both regular season and playoffs, MJ put up better stats during his 2nd three-peat (1996-1998) than Kobe did in his championship years as a #1 option (2008-2010


League-Wide DRtg in Regular Season:


1996: 107.6
1997: 106.7
1998: 105.0

2008: 107.5
2009: 108.3
2010: 107.6

Source: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html


League-Wide DRtg in Playoffs (each year is link to source):

1996 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1996.html#all_misc_stats): 107.4
1997 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1997.html#all_misc_stats): 106.8
1998 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1998.html#all_misc_stats): 105.6

2008 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2008.html#all_misc_stats): 107.4
2009 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2009.html#all_misc_stats): 107.7
2010 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2010.html#all_misc_stats): 108.6



But despite facing lower DRtg defenses, MJ still put up better stats:


REGULAR SEASON - 1996-1998 vs. 2008-2010

MJ:... 29.6 ppg... 48.2% fg... 2 MVP
Kobe: 27.4 ppg... 46.1% fg... 1 MVP


PLAYOFFS:

MJ:... 31.4 ppg... 45.9% fg
Kobe: 29.8 PPG... 46.4% fg


FINALS

MJ:... 31.1 ppg... 43.4% fg... 3 FMVP
Kobe: 29.2 ppg... 41.3% fg... 2 FMVP

Source: basketball-reference.com


At 33-35 years old, MJ had better stats against better defenses than 29-31 year-old Kobe..

Also, 1998 Utah had a lower DRtg in the playoffs (100.3) than any team Kobe ever faced as the #1 option (post-Shaq).. So as the #1 option, it was JORDAN who faced the toughest defense from an individual team, not Kobe.. Of course, this is no surprise, since the stats above show MJ faced the lower league-wide DRtg in both the regular season and playoffs.

Imagine if we DIDN'T give Kobe a head start and actually peak at MJ's prime instead of his old man stats??.. Better not.. :facepalm .. It's amazing how much better MJ was than Kobe.. :bowdown:

[3ball]

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Championships won without a dominant big man:


Jordan: 6

Kobe:...0


Kobe only wins with Phil Jackson if he has a dominant big man.. Kobe got lucky in his career by playing with two - but normally, he wouldn't get any and therefore wouldn't win any rings with Phil.
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[SouBeachTalents]

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Championships won without a dominant big man:


Jordan: 6

Kobe:...0


Kobe only wins with Phil Jackson if he has a dominant big man.. Kobe got lucky in his career by playing with two - but normally, he wouldn't get any and therefore wouldn't win any rings with Phil.
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And Jordan didn't win a god damn thing without Pippen

[ShawkFactory]

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Championships won without a dominant big man:


Jordan: 6

Kobe:...0


Kobe only wins with Phil Jackson if he has a dominant big man.. Kobe got lucky in his career by playing with two - but normally, he wouldn't get any and therefore wouldn't win any rings with Phil.
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Why?

[eeeeeebro]

10

[24-Inch_Chrome]

5.

[outbreak]

How many would Kobe have if he didn't play with Shaq or Pau

[iamgine]

Scottie Pippen was as good as any dominant big men. He was 3rd in MVP voting ahead of Shaq and Ewing.

[Real14]

How many would Kobe have if he didn't play with Shaq or Pau
Still mad about 09 finals?

[HOoopCityJones]

How many would Kobe have if he didn't play with Shaq or Pau

For idiots who love to shame people for not playing Team ball ,you sure like to use it as an excuse for discrediting them as a player. Go play with your dolls Jameer.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Hey 3ball

if 18/10 b2b years for a big man is "dominant"

what is 20/9/6 for 3 straight years in the playoffs with all nba defense considered?

let me guess, not top 100 :oldlol: :oldlol:

[72-10]

Scottie Pippen was as good as any dominant big men. He was 3rd in MVP voting ahead of Shaq and Ewing.

No man. That was one year, without Jordan in the league. Shaq's prime was ridiculously dominant.