Curry vs Prime Kobe

[sportjames23]

who's talking about Lebron? rentfree :lol

Curry now >> prime Kobe


What say you, ISH? Is this statement true?

[dubeta]

The person that didnt go 1-9






oh wait.. neither of them did.

[Showtime2001]

Prime Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any version of Curry.

[HOoopCityJones]

I'll take number #8 Kobe over Curry today and take # 24 tomorrow. That's how serious it is.

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/12/03/bridging-the-gap-should-lakers-retire-kobe-bryant-no-8-or-no-24/index.html

[VengefulAngel]

I value defense a thing that Prime Kobe was a lot better than Steph at, although it's very close.

[I<3NBA]

somehow, Curry is taking all these crazy shots without freezing out his team mates

[Fire Colangelo]

I value defense a thing that Prime Kobe was a lot better than Steph at, although it's very close.

2006 Kobe was elite offensively but bad defensively.

2008 was great defensively and great defensively.

You get either one or the other with Kobe, not both.

That'd be like if I combined 2012 Lebron with the athleticism of 2009 Lebron lol.

[HOoopCityJones]

somehow, Curry is taking all these crazy shots without freezing out his team mates

He ain't caught a rape case yet, just wait.

[plowking]

I value defense a thing that Prime Kobe was a lot better than Steph at, although it's very close.

Steph has been all defense level good this season.

I keep seeing people hate on him for it, but he is picking dudes pockets consistently, and people act like they haven't tried to go at Steph all the time to tire him out. He is incredible defensively, and far better than someone like Klay who has somehow got a rep as a good defender.

[HOoopCityJones]

2006 Kobe was elite offensively but bad defensively.

2008 was great defensively and great defensively.

You get either one or the other with Kobe, not both.

That'd be like if I combined 2012 Lebron with the athleticism of 2009 Lebron lol.

Kobe detractors pretend to be the authority on this guy's career , but they don't know shit.

01 Kobe and 03 Kobe were the perfect balance. But even then in 06 Kobe was being lauded for being both sides of the ball, maybe it wasn't as elite as the early 00's, but there's guys are who are ranked higher all time who are suspect defenders or part time defenders, like Shaq and Magic.

[Dro]

Prime Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any version of Curry.
This........

[Fire Colangelo]

Kobe detractors pretend to be the authority on this guy's career , but they don't know shit.

01 Kobe and 03 Kobe were the perfect balance. But even then in 06 Kobe was being lauded for being both sides of the ball, maybe it wasn't as elite as the early 00's, but there's guys are who are ranked higher all time who are suspect defenders or part time defenders, like Shaq and Magic.

You're telling me you'd take 01 or 03 Kobe over 08 Kobe?


lol

[HOoopCityJones]

You're telling me you'd take 01 or 03 Kobe over 08 Kobe?


lol

That' not the argument here, you insinuated that 08 was the only time he combined his amazing offense with top tier defense.

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe detractors pretend to be the authority on this guy's career , but they don't know shit.

01 Kobe and 03 Kobe were the perfect balance. But even then in 06 Kobe was being lauded for being both sides of the ball, maybe it wasn't as elite as the early 00's, but there's guys are who are ranked higher all time who are suspect defenders or part time defenders, like Shaq and Magic.

Kobe's defense in '06 was trash.. you'll see the same thing said about his defense back then (threads from '06). It was the season Tex Winter publically called out his lazy defense.

LOL at thinking Kobe is a better defender than Shaq :roll:

'01 Kobe was a regular season chucker, who made Phil publically involve him into trade talks, while Kobe was out there asking for MVP's and scoring titles and calling the offense boring right after Shaq had the MDE season :facepalm So no, up until the playoffs, he didn't have any perfect balance. Where as in 2003, it was the other way around.

[DaOldLion]

You're telling me you'd take 01 or 03 Kobe over 08 Kobe?


lol

whats funny about that statement?

03 Kobe was probably the best version of him. Just because he tore his labrum in the playoffs and wasn't able to produce like he would of liked doesn't take away from how good he was then.

01 Kobe put up 33/7/7 on 50+% FG while leading his team in scoring and assist as they became the only team in nba playoff history to sweep their conference in the playoffs and go 12-0 leading into the finals. He also led the entire league in 4th quarter playoff scoring that year

both could be ranked over 08 and there would be no problem with that.

[Fire Colangelo]

That' not the argument here, you insinuated that 08 was the only time he combined his amazing offense with top tier defense.

No, I implied that most people consider 2006 or 2008 as the best version of Kobe with 2003 just a little below.

[HOoopCityJones]

whats funny about that statement?

03 Kobe was probably the best version of him. Just because he tore his labrum in the playoffs and wasn't able to produce like he would of liked doesn't take away from how good he was then.

01 Kobe put up 33/7/7 on 50+% FG while leading his team in scoring and assist as they became the only team in nba playoff history to sweep their conference in the playoffs and go 12-0 leading into the finals. He also led the entire league in 4th quarter playoff scoring that year

both could be ranked over 08 and there would be no problem with that.

Like I said , most of these guys talk out of their ass about Kobe and don't know much about his career. Aside from Shaq carried him and he didn't shoot 50%:facepalm

[Fire Colangelo]

whats funny about that statement?

03 Kobe was probably the best version of him. Just because he tore his labrum in the playoffs and wasn't able to produce like he would of liked doesn't take away from how good he was then.

01 Kobe put up 33/7/7 on 50+% FG while leading his team in scoring and assist as they became the only team in nba playoff history to sweep their conference in the playoffs and go 12-0 leading into the finals. He also led the entire league in 4th quarter playoff scoring that year

both could be ranked over 08 and there would be no problem with that.

If you want to argue that the best version of Kobe is the version that wasn't even the best player on his team throughout the season.... go right ahead.

Very convenient of you to leave out the regular season and finals as well.

[HOoopCityJones]

No, I implied that most people consider 2006 or 2008 as the best version of Kobe with 2003 just a little below.

01 is being vastly underrated.

[HOoopCityJones]

If you want to argue that the best version of Kobe is the version that wasn't even the best player on his team throughout the season.... go right ahead.

Very convenient of you to leave out the regular season and finals as well.

IF you wanna argue Magic is a top 5 player playing next to the second Goat of all time, go right ahead.

You see the logic you're applying here? :biggums:

What Kobe dropped next to Shaq should be applauded.

[Akrazotile]

I value defense a thing that Prime Kobe was a lot better than Steph at, although it's very close.


Someone call Mythbusters, please.

[DaOldLion]

If you want to argue that the best version of Kobe is the version that wasn't even the best player on his team throughout the season.... go right ahead.

Very convenient of you to leave out the regular season and finals as well.

Kobe was the best player on the Lakers in 03

01 Kobe in the regular season = 29/6/6.. 01 Kobe in the finals = 25/8/6 and aside from game 1 where he struggled coming off that huge break put up like 27/9/4 for the rest of the series including leading the team in scoring for games 2 and 3, then leading them in assist in games 4 and 5. In the last two games put up 19/10/9 and 26/12/6.

not saying they are the best versions, but its silly to just laugh them off when compared to 08

[DaOldLion]

IF you wanna argue Magic is a top 5 player playing next to the second Goat of all time, go right ahead.

You see the logic you're applying here? :biggums:

What Kobe dropped next to Shaq should be applauded.

ISH

where winning all of your titles with the arguable GOAT doesn't hurt your value but winning 3 out of your 5 with Shaq does

[ArbitraryWater]

Mark Madsen please :oldlol:

I ONCE mention Kobe toring his labrum in the '03 playoffs and since you can't leave it out of your mouth :roll:

[DaOldLion]

Why is this dude following me around calling me Mark Madsen lmao he's been retired for years and I doubt he post on ISH of all places

[mehyaM24]

curry is already better than kobe

more efficient, more consistent, better teammate, and has a higher net impact than kobe's ever mustered.

curry is like magic with goat-level offense (magic with the passing, curry with the shooting).

[fiddy]

Kobe's defense in '06 was trash.. you'll see the same thing said about his defense back then (threads from '06). It was the season Tex Winter publically called out his lazy defense.

LOL at thinking Kobe is a better defender than Shaq :roll:

'01 Kobe was a regular season chucker, who made Phil publically involve him into trade talks, while Kobe was out there asking for MVP's and scoring titles and calling the offense boring right after Shaq had the MDE season :facepalm So no, up until the playoffs, he didn't have any perfect balance. Where as in 2003, it was the other way around.
in 06 you were still shitting the bed at the age of 8, pls stfu and go suck on Lebron's tiny pеnis

[Fire Colangelo]

IF you wanna argue Magic is a top 5 player playing next to the second Goat of all time, go right ahead.

You see the logic you're applying here? :biggums:

What Kobe dropped next to Shaq should be applauded.

Which is why I have Bird ahead of Magic :confusedshrug:

But Magic was the clear leader for 4 out of 5 titles with Kareem, while Kobe was the clear leader 0 out of 3 times with Shaq.

Not to mention Magic played with a past prime Kareem while Kobe played with a prime Shaq.

How is it comparable? I don't even know. I'll leave it to Kobe stans to come up with dumb arguments like these though.

[HOoopCityJones]

Which is why I have Bird ahead of Magic :confusedshrug:

But Magic was the clear leader for 4 out of 5 titles with Kareem, while Kobe was the clear leader 0 out of 3 times with Shaq.

Not to mention Magic played with a past prime Kareem while Kobe played with a prime Shaq.

How is it comparable? I don't even know. I'll leave it to Kobe stans to come up with dumb arguments like these though.

01 and 02 Kobe has a case if Magic has a case for 84 or 85, because he certainly doesn't have a case for being better than Kareem in 80' despite being Finals Mvp.

Bird is also another guy who played with multiple HoF yet gets Top 5 main stay.

[Smoke117]

Prime Kobe could shoot himself full of PEDs and put on some of those magic MJ's that lil bow wow put on and Curry would still be much better.

[Fire Colangelo]

01 and 02 Kobe has a case if Magic has a case for 84 or 85, because he certainly doesn't have a case for being better than Kareem in 80' despite being Finals Mvp.

Bird is also another guy who played with multiple HoF yet gets Top 5 main stay.

Are you ****ing dumb?

Kareem was the ****ing MVP in 1980, so obviously Magic doesn't have a case for being better than MVP Kareem as a rookie.

Do you even know why he won FMVP? It's because Kareem got injured in the finals, and as Kareem's replacement at Centre, Magic dropped 42/15/7 to seal the deal. That's why he was the Finals MVP, it doesn't take anything away from Kareem for being the best player on the team for the regular season and most of the playoffs.

01 and 02 has a case for what? Certainly not the best player in the league because Shaq averaged 30/15 in both seasons. He doesn't have case for shit.

He had no case for being the best player in the league, he certainly wasn't the best player on his team, and hell you could even argue that he wasn't even the best player in his position (i'll probably get quoted on this out of everything).

Bottom line is:

The best version of Kareem Magic got to play with was a 32 year old past prime (still beastly) Kareem while Kobe got to play with the most dominant version of Shaq.

[HOoopCityJones]

Are you ****ing dumb?

Kareem was the ****ing MVP in 1980, so obviously Magic doesn't have a case for being better than MVP Kareem as a rookie.

Do you even know why he won FMVP? It's because Kareem got injured in the finals, and as Kareem's replacement at Centre, Magic dropped 42/15/7 to seal the deal. That's why he was the Finals MVP, it doesn't take anything away from Kareem for being the best player on the team for the regular season and most of the playoffs.

01 and 02 has a case for what? Certainly not the best player in the league because Shaq averaged 30/15 in both seasons. He doesn't have case for shit.

He had no case for being the best player in the league, he certainly wasn't the best player on his team, and hell you could even argue that he wasn't even the best player in his position (i'll probably get quoted on this out of everything).

Bottom line is:

The best version of Kareem Magic got to play with was a 32 year old past prime (still beastly) Kareem while Kobe got to play with the most dominant version of Shaq.


You think you're breaking a new ground here? I just said Kareem was definitely better despite Magic being Finals Mvp.

Are you slow? :biggums:

[Fire Colangelo]

You think you're breaking a new ground here? I just said Kareem was definitely better despite Magic being Finals Mvp.

Are you slow? :biggums:

I had to be a little slow to someone that thinks Magic's situation is even remotely similar to Kobe's situation :confusedshrug:

Now we have that out of the way:

Magic was the leader for 4 out of 5 rings with Kareem, while Kobe was the leader for 0 out of 3 rings with Shaq.

:confusedshrug:

[Cold soul]

Kobe by far not that close either.

[HOoopCityJones]

I had to be a little slow to someone that thinks Magic's situation is even remotely similar to Kobe's situation :confusedshrug:

Now we have that out of the way:

Magic was the leader for 4 out of 5 rings with Kareem, while Kobe was the leader for 0 out of 3 rings with Shaq.

:confusedshrug:

Very comparable. You guys are just biased against Kobe.

[Rocketswin2013]

Curry was on his level last year. This year he's just making a joke out of any discussion like that...

[RRR3]

Kobe by far not that close either.
:facepalm How is it not close?

[Black and White]

Curry was on his level last year. This year he's just making a joke out of any discussion like that...


:biggums:

23.8/4.3/7.7 on 48% shooting while losing FMVP to Iggy is on prime Kobe level?

[G0ATbe]

Offensively, Curry is a poor mans Godbe (which is still very very good)

Defensively it's Godbe and it's not close.

[Micku]

Curry atm is god mode offensively. 32.3 ppg, 68.8% TS, and 51.7%. 45.8% from 3pt and 90.8% at the line.

Those are hax video game numbers. Insane. Plus, he shoots so quick and it doesn't disrupt the team offense. He gets his points fast. The numbers could go down, but 1/4 in the season, that's freakin' impressive. If he keeps this up, then it'll probably go down as one of the best offensive years the league has ever seen. It might be the best ppg to efficiency ratio the league has ever seen too. We'll see if he can keep it up.

Prime Kobe is better defensively tho.

[TheBigVeto]

Any version of Curry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prime Kobe