LeBron leading the league in 4th quarter scoring and avg.

[Hey Yo]

in his 13th grueling season.

avg. 8.9 for the quarter and 177 total points

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/features/by-the-numbers-151214

[Proctor]

He'll be averaging 8.9ppg in the Finals

[plowking]

That equates to about 1.6ppg in the 80's and 90's where players could handcheck you and stab you as you drove to the lane and it wasn't a foul.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

That equates to about 1.6ppg in the 80's and 90's where players could handcheck you and stab you as you drove to the lane and it wasn't a foul.
:lol

[GrapeApe]

That equates to about 1.6ppg in the 80's and 90's where players could handcheck you and stab you as you drove to the lane and it wasn't a foul.

Players back then were tough. After they beat the hell out of you during the game, they went after your family.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

That equates to about 1.6ppg in the 80's and 90's where players could handcheck you and stab you as you drove to the lane and it wasn't a foul.

I Loled out loud for real.

:bowdown: :lol :lol

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Players back then were tough. After they beat the hell out of you during the game, they went after your family.
:lol

[3ball]

in his 13th grueling season - 43,300 minutes entering the season


Conservatively, if we assume Jordan's 3000 college minutes translates to 1000 NBA minutes, that means Jordan reached 43,300 minutes right before the 1998 playoffs.

Here's Jordan's 1998 playoff stats at 35 years old vs. Lebron's 2016 regular season stats at 30 years old:


JORDAN: 32.4 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 3.8 dreb.. 3.5 apg.. 2.1 tov.. 1.5 spg.. 0.6 bpg.. 46.2 fg.. 54.5 ts.. 117 ORtg.. 28.1 PER
LEBRON: 26.2 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 6.2 dreb.. 6.4 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.4 spg.. 0.6 bpg.. 50.1 fg.. 56.9 ts.. 112 ORtg.. 27.4 PER


Btw, Lebron's body is only 30 years old, and therefore better equipped to handle 43k minutes than MJ's much older, 35-year old body.. And obviously, MJ's superior stats are PLAYOFF stats, not early regular season like Lebron's.

[HOoopCityJones]

Lebron :applause:

[Nuff Said]

That's what happens when you don't get it wrapped in the first three quarters.

[3ball]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-25-2015/0X7oDr.gif


^^^^ MJ scored 46% of Bulls' points in the 4th quarter during 1988 regular season - this amounts to 12.1 points


Other 4th Quarter Scoring Stats:


MJ 1997 Playoffs: 9.6
MJ 1998 Playoffs (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4): 9.0

MJ 1993 Finals: 10.7
MJ 1997 Finals: 10.4
MJ 1998 Finals: 10.3


Lebron 2013 Playoffs: 7.4
Lebron 2014 Playoffs: 5.8
Lebron 2015 Playoffs: 8.1

Lebron 2011 Finals: 2.2
Lebron 2014 Finals: 3.6

[Blue&Orange]

That equates to about 1.6ppg in the 80's and 90's where players could handcheck you and stab you as you drove to the lane and it wasn't a foul.
Make some joke about Global warming also. I always love ignorant redneck jokes.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Conservatively, if we assume Jordan's 3000 college minutes translates to 1000 NBA minutes, that means Jordan reached 43,300 minutes right before the 1998 playoffs.

Here's Jordan's 1998 playoff stats at 35 years old vs. Lebron's 2016 regular season stats at 30 years old:


JORDAN: 32.4 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 3.8 dreb.. 3.5 apg.. 2.1 tov.. 1.5 spg.. 0.6 bpg.. 46.2 fg.. 54.5 ts.. 117 ORtg.. 28.1 PER
LEBRON: 26.2 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 6.2 dreb.. 6.4 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.4 spg.. 0.6 bpg.. 50.1 fg.. 56.9 ts.. 112 ORtg.. 27.4 PER


Btw, Lebron's body is only 30 years old, and therefore better equipped to handle 43k minutes than MJ's much older, 35-year old body.. And obviously, MJ's superior stats are PLAYOFF stats, not early regular season like Lebron's.
Weak era, LeBron wins.

[mehyaM24]

not clutch though :confusedshrug:

lol @ idiots questioning the phenom that is lebron

[Goofsta Knicca]

Leading da league in feelings too




http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LeBron-James-Mirror-Selfie.jpg

[knicksman]

well see in the playoffs. Im expecting a choke

[Blue&Orange]

Knowing Lebron probably scored most points in the first two minutes of blowout games. Either that or at age 31 he stop being scared of 4th quarters. Still chocking in the final seconds as seen in the few last games.


phenom

[Lebronxrings]

leclutch.


Best player in the world.

[Rocketswin2013]

His defense has been better than his scoring in these moments.

[plowking]

Players back then were tough. After they beat the hell out of you during the game, they went after your family.

Good to see someone actually watched ball back then. :cheers:

Aren't you related to a famous ball player from the 80's? Surprised you're still here with us. Only us real fans know how tough it was.

[Fudge]

King...

James.

Still the face of the league, along with KD. :applause:

[Black and White]

Good on him, I am starting to think this will be the year the Cavs get it done, just wanna see Irving back and healthy, I think LeBron will be happy to have his go to player back on court, hes been having to carry them a bit.

[KirbyPls]

Good on him, I am starting to think this will be the year the Cavs get it done, just wanna see Irving back and healthy, I think LeBron will be happy to have his go to player back on court, hes been having to carry them a bit.

Hate the reverse jinx, but it's understandable as a Celtics fan. if you believe it....:cheers:

[20Four]

King...

James.

Still the face of the league, along with KD. :applause:
If he is why do you have to say it over and over? Shouldn't everybody know that already? Deep down even you know he isn't the face of the league just by you stating it trying to shove it down our throats lol, shit im a kobe fan and a laker fan but even ill say curry is the face of the league...

[KirbyPls]

If he is why do you have to say it over and over? Shouldn't everybody know that already? Deep down even you know he isn't the face of the league just by you stating it trying to shove it down our throats lol, shit im a kobe fan and a laker fan but even ill say curry is the face of the league...

Nigel, please.

[Fudge]

If he is why do you have to say it over and over? Shouldn't everybody know that already? Deep down even you know he isn't the face of the league just by you stating it trying to shove it down our throats lol, shit im a kobe fan and a laker fan but even ill say curry is the face of the league...
LeBron and Durant are still the two best players in the league.

Is that making you angry?

[20Four]

LeBron and Durant are still the two best players in the league.

Is that making you angry?
LOL I know you dont think that

[20Four]

Nigel, please.
lol I mind fvcked you so hard you had to go online on twitter to get my name lol :rockon: :rockon:

[dubeta]

LOL I know you dont think that

How was work?

[Cocaine80s]

Lebron fam wins again

We out here *****

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/e35/12394147_1499559657012309_54379675_n.jpg

[Fudge]

LOL I know you dont think that
Of course I do. Nobody is even remotely close to taking their spots. :lol

[3ball]

avg. 8.9 for the quarter and 177 total points



...........Percentage of points scored while player is on floor


.......................RS......RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997.... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... 46.3...... 40.9...... 50.4
JORDAN 1998.... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... 48.8...... 43.6...... 49.1


LEBRON 2009.... 35.0..... 39.3..... 41.5..... 42.4
LEBRON 2010.... 34.6..... 44.4..... 32.6..... 40.3
LEBRON 2011.... 32.0..... 32.8..... 28.1..... 30.7...... 21.4...... 14.8
LEBRON 2012.... 34.2..... 33.8..... 34.5..... 34.9...... 30.0...... 33.3
LEBRON 2013.... 32.1..... 32.1..... 30.6..... 36.0...... 29.3...... 39.1
LEBRON 2014.... 33.1..... 38.2..... 35.3..... 32.1...... 39.6...... 29.5
LEBRON 2015.... 30.1..... 38.9..... 35.0..... 42.4...... 40.0...... 44.5
LEBRON 2016.... 33.1..... 41.9

CURRY 2015..... 29.9..... 36.2...... 33.4..... 36.6...... 29.3...... 40.6
CURRY 2016..... 36.7..... 43.6


Source: stats.nba.com

[SpecialQue]

No one cares because Curry.

[GIF REACTION]

That equates to about 1.6ppg in the 80's and 90's where players could handcheck you and stab you as you drove to the lane and it wasn't a foul.
:roll:

[3ball]

That equates to about 1.6ppg in the 80's and 90's where players could handcheck you and stab you as you drove to the lane and it wasn't a foul.


you either have extra rotations required by spacing and defensive 3 seconds (today's game), or the rotations aren't necessary because there is no spacing or defensive 3 seconds (previous eras)..






:roll:



In the picture below, weakside floor-spreaders (spacing) have drawn defenders away from the strongside.. If Noah doesn't leave #20 Mosgov and flood to the strongside, the strongside will only have 2 defenders on it.


http://i61.tinypic.com/2z7mnvm.png



Otoh, previous eras didn't have weakside floor-spreaders (spacing) drawing defenders away from the strongside, so the strongside was already flooded with all 5 defenders - there are already defenders standing where today's defender would flood to:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-02-2015/RHtH1z.gif


Again - you either have extra rotations required by spacing and defensive 3 seconds (today's game), or the rotations aren't necessary because there is no spacing or defensive 3 seconds (previous eras)..

Also, we have a stat that measures how hard it is to score.. It's called league-wide offensive rating (ORtg) and it's been stable for 30 years.. It's ranged between 105 and 108 since 1980, excluding a brief downswing from 1998-2004.. The minor shifts within that 105-108 range are due to style of play differences between the eras that affect inputs to the ORtg calculation, such as offensive rebounding rate and FT rate.

30 years of stable ORtg proves the difficulty of scoring hasn't changed, and the changes in offensive strategy (spacing) and defensive strategy (extra rotations) are offsetting - you either have extra rotations required by spacing and defensive 3 seconds (today's game), or the rotations aren't necessary because there is no spacing or defensive 3 seconds (previous eras).
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[Straight_Ballin]

OP trying to keep lebron relevant while 3ball making Bron look even less relevant than a man who hasn't played in over a decade. :lol