If J.J. Reddick showed up at the local rec...

[jack612blue]

Would he dominate?

Mainly his game is catch and shoot. But in pickup ball screens arent that sophisticated and chances are his teammates will set up terrible screens.

Of course hes an Nba player so he should get a few buckets here and there. But can he dominate without being a catch and shoot player?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Yes, because he's an NBA player. You're insane if you think that all he would/could do is catch and shoot against rec level competition. He would absolutely dominate.

[bdreason]

Redick would be crossing people up and making them look stupid at a rec game.

[LoneyROY7]

He would rain jumpers all game. Probably would take a lot of dudes off the dribble too. I mean he has a weak handle by NBA standards, but at a rec league? He would be schooling dudes.

[Sportal]

He'd drop 50...

Considering he's a starter on an NBA team, yeah, it doesn't even matter if he was coming off the bench. He's still in the top percentile...

[JimmyMcAdocious]

If Perkins showed up at a rec trying to play PG he would destroy.

[DCL]

unstoppable white guy in any local rec game

[Fallen Angel]

Reddick is 6'5" with a great jumpshot

Nothing else needs to be said

[Jameerthefear]

are you trolling? go watch JJ Redick highlights in college. now imagine the talent at ur local rec league. he'd ****ing dominate.

[Rake2204]

Perhaps this local fellow could lend some perspective. There was a dude from Michigan named Brad Redford back in the mid-2000's, he was 6 feet tall and ended up having a solid but most definitely not spectacular career at Xavier. He averaged 39 points per game in high school and it looked like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxc09r04pJI

TL;DW - If a dude who was mostly just a spot up shooter in A-10 could do that to local rec. type of competition (while facing more organized defensive schemes), the case for J.J. Redick should be pretty clear.

[dubeta]

Dont know but if Kobe showed up he wouldnt get picked

[Heavincent]

Are you ****ing kidding me? He's a starting SG in the highest level of basketball on the planet. He would play at about 25% of what he's capable of and it still wouldn't be fair.

I'm baffled this thread comes up so often.

[Straight_Ballin]

The worst NBA player would dominate at your rec kid....:facepalm

[thefatmiral]

He'd be shooting threes over those gym shorties. And backing people up easily.

[SpecialQue]

Once again, dumb ass nigguhs on ISH underestimate how fvcking hard it is just to get into the NBA. Ryan Gomes with a broken leg would be ass raping the best players in your rec league without breaking a sweat.

[dubeta]

The worst NBA player would dominate at your rec kid....:facepalm

I'd destroy current MJ in a 1 on 1

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Michael-Jordan-Misses-Dunk.gif

Look, heres a 39 year old MJ who can barely dunk, you think he'd stand a chance 13 years later? :lol


He's currently fat, overweight, smokes cigars.


http://www.simpleprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/michael-jordan-gut-playing-golf.jpg

So yup, I'd take him, the supposed 'GOAT", I'd beat him 11-7 in a 1 on 1

[Akrazotile]

He dominated in college, which is not as 'sophisticated' as the NBA in terms of playing style.

He would clearly dominate in rec.

[Akrazotile]

Reddick is 6'5" with a great jumpshot

Nothing else needs to be said


:roll:

[FreezingTsmoove]

Yeah one of the greatest D1 Ball players of all time, and professional shooting guard player who plays for California is not going to do shit

Stfu

[Rake2204]

He'd be shooting threes over those gym shorties. And backing people up easily.Yup. A couple of things that tend to be forgotten as we watch Redick in the NBA:

-He's 6'4''. At most (not all) recs throughout the country, that's good enough to be considered "a pretty good size" in comparison to rest of the competition. There's a lot of forward/center types of folks out there who are 6'4''. Redick's a guard with a burner. Speaking of which...

-Most (not all) recs still operate with a high school three-point line. That's four full feet behind the minimum range needed for Redick to hit a triple in the NBA. He's currently shooting 45.6 percent from that distance.

I've played against some small-college and D1 heroes in rec. leagues who are known as deadly from deep. Even on 19'9'', I still don't think most of them even sniff 46% shooting from the arc. Redick does it against NBA defenses, from four feet behind the typical amateur line and beyond.

Considering some amateur gyms can be as short at 88 feet, Redick would be comfortably in "two steps inside half court" range just about each time down.

-Most (not all) recreational players won't be anywhere near the type of shape Redick's in. Fellow has been on the NBA diet, training, and lifting regimen for almost a decade. His motor would go faster and last longer than anyone else on the court.

-Many more reasons and things.

[Kobe_6/8]

The NBA had 446 players to start this season. :yaohappy: He would dominate.

His current basketball skills are high enough to play in the NBA...you think the local rec would challenge him?

[Straight_Ballin]

I'd destroy current MJ in a 1 on 1

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Michael-Jordan-Misses-Dunk.gif

Look, heres a 39 year old MJ who can barely dunk, you think he'd stand a chance 13 years later? :lol


He's currently fat, overweight, smokes cigars.


http://www.simpleprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/michael-jordan-gut-playing-golf.jpg

So yup, I'd take him, the supposed 'GOAT", I'd beat him 11-7 in a 1 on 1

Please, I barely scored 6 on him at his camp and even though he said I played him better than OJ Mayo did, he still was only going 50% effort.

[LoneyROY7]

Gonna be a lot of this after JJ drops 60 on 'em rec league dudes.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/197zg6olcldlkgif/ku-medium.gif

[plowking]

He dominates an NBA game at times with just his shooting. A rec game? :oldlol:

[iamgine]

Well I mean from the physical standpoint he'd be way stronger/quicker/taller/much more skilled than your average local rec players. It's like if Lebron plays in college basketball. So yeah he can dominate.

I don't think he would dominate though. Seems like a nice guy. Prob goof around, make a couple threes and facilitate teammates with behind the back passes in a local rec game.

[Straight_Ballin]

Well I mean from the physical standpoint he'd be way stronger/quicker/taller/much more skilled than your average local rec players. It's like if Lebron plays in college basketball. So yeah he can dominate.

I don't think he would dominate though. Seems like a nice guy. Prob goof around, make a couple threes and facilitate teammates with behind the back passes in a local rec game.

"Behind the back passes" lol....nikka he'd be throwin all kinds of passes that would fvck OP's world up and everyone at that court.

[el gringos]

He would rain jumpers all game. Probably would take a lot of dudes off the dribble too. I mean he has a weak handle by NBA standards, but at a rec league? He would be schooling dudes.
You are right. But he wouldn't have to shoot jump shots. He could me lay ups the whole day

[MMKM]

Rec = awesome
NBA = waste of time because time has proven over and over that in order to win a championship you need a 2 guard with the length and athleticism to defend

[Spurs m8]

Reddick is a pretender
He belongs on the Clippers....

[oarabbus]

:roll:


Redick is 6'4" just one inch off... hardly a difference it's not like he said Redick is 6'7"

[Dragonyeuw]

You know how you have those guys at the rec who are REALLY good? And yet not good enough to sniff the NBA? And you're asking what a legit NBA player would do? You really estimate how good nba players are, even the scrubs would wreck you.

[dhsilv]

High school players dominate rec competition...

[Straight_Ballin]

High school players dominate rec competition...

No they don't, they come in to play rec ball against their coaches wishes, get fvcked up by me 5 games in a row, and then loose their HS game by 50 points the next day. This actually happened and the coach of the team came into the rec the next day, handed me his card, and told me that if I EVER see his team in there again, to call him.:lol

[IGOTGAME]

JJ would shit on everyone. He would be getting dunks, dropping 40 footers and looking like Magic Johnson with the passes. To put this in perspective, Gerry Mcnamera would dominate at any local Rec

[ShawkFactory]

We talking about the guy who averaged 27 points a game in the ACC his senior year?

Who was the national player of the year that season?

And who was also the MVP of the McDonald's all American game?

That the guy you're talking about?

[HylianNightmare]

He'd dominate anyone I bet, shooting, driving. Hel he'd be postiykida up and hitting them qith dream shakes I bet.

[OnFire]

Wheres the video of 40 year old Jason Williams making people look bad in some proam mix tour type game?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

No they don't, they come in to play rec ball against their coaches wishes, get fvcked up by me 5 games in a row, and then loose their HS game by 50 points the next day. This actually happened and the coach of the team came into the rec the next day, handed me his card, and told me that if I EVER see his team in there again, to call him.:lol
I'm sure they do. :rolleyes:

[Orlando Magic]

How many of you have heard of Anthony Bowie? That's right, not many. I suspect only 10 or less of this entire ****ing board because he retired before most of you were born.

Anyways... he was a bench player back in the early to mid 90s. He randomly showed up to a local gym at FIT in Melbourne, FL back in the mid 90s when I was like 12 or so... he raped everyone ****ing badly and I knew from then on that every NBA player, no matter how little of an amount of playing time they get, are legitimate, actual ****ing ballers.

So anyone who spends a significant amount of time posting here that also happens to think that they could beat ANY NBA player... lol, k.

Which is why I always laugh when people call players "scrubs". Sure, by NBA standards, there are a few "scrubs" in the league but I guarantee you that those "scrubs" would bend you over and do their will without lube.

Also... Scalabrine vs random shit fans that are supposedly among the best that the Boston streets have to offer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYsrDDfaF38

[dubeta]

Kyrie Irving wouldn't do that well in a rec league

[SuperCereal]

Dominate? No.
Rape everyone with smile on his face? Yes.

[ShaqTwizzle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysv3v7uXblw

These NBA players aren't untouchable.

:pimp:

[Derka]

Once again, dumb ass nigguhs on ISH underestimate how fvcking hard it is just to get into the NBA. Ryan Gomes with a broken leg would be ass raping the best players in your rec league without breaking a sweat.
Fun fact: I played against Ryan Gomes my junior year at PC when he was a freshman. He and some other players would just show up at the big gym that used to be in Slavin Center and mess with the students who were there playing. He was going maybe at half speed just so he didn't risk hurting himself and it still wasn't fair to the rest of us.

[Derka]

Someone beat me to it by referencing The Scallenge thing that Toucher & Rich did a few years back, right after Scal was done playing. Those were *not* the best ballers that Boston had to offer but it wouldn't have made a difference even if they were; Scal would have wiped the gym with whoever was put in front of him that day.

That's the one I always go to when people start the "He doesn't even play, how good can he be?" shit.

[tomtucker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysv3v7uXblw

These NBA players aren't untouchable.

:pimp:
:eek: not bad at all

[nathanjizzle]

he has a role, playing in an nba type game, in a pickup game, hes not confined to that role. he would absolutely murder a pickup game.

[theaussieguy]

honestly no, Id have trouble defending him because of the height differential, but on offense there is simply nothing he could do. My ball handling skills and quickness would simply be too much. He goes into reach? I blow by him for the layup. He holds off me, i knock down a jumper. He is better than every aspect of basketball than me except ball handling and pure speed/quicks. In a 1-1 game it be very likely we both couldnt defend each other, but wed both be knocking down our shots. Probably a tie.

[Kawhi]

Breaking: Scalabrine would dominate your local ball game.

[HurricaneKid]

This ridiculous thread and those of its ilk make me wonder if any of you have any idea how good NBA players are. I went 5 years and was the best player on the floor every single day. Then I got to play with some guys who were in the NBA the following year. I played with them for a week. I almost quit the game.

The difference between NBA players and rec league play? GTFO. JJ would destroy any of you and your 3 best ball playing friends.

[Rake2204]

How many of you have heard of Anthony Bowie? That's right, not many. I suspect only 10 or less of this entire ****ing board because he retired before most of you were born.

Anyways... he was a bench player back in the early to mid 90s. He randomly showed up to a local gym at FIT in Melbourne, FL back in the mid 90s when I was like 12 or so... he raped everyone ****ing badly and I knew from then on that every NBA player, no matter how little of an amount of playing time they get, are legitimate, actual ****ing ballers.

So anyone who spends a significant amount of time posting here that also happens to think that they could beat ANY NBA player... lol, k.

Which is why I always laugh when people call players "scrubs". Sure, by NBA standards, there are a few "scrubs" in the league but I guarantee you that those "scrubs" would bend you over and do their will without lube.

Also... Scalabrine vs random shit fans that are supposedly among the best that the Boston streets have to offer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYsrDDfaF38As a Pistons guy, Anthony Bowie unfortunately may always stick out as the dude who called a time-out to get himself a free assist to complete his triple-double against Detroit. Still agree with you on what you said though.

That said, the Scalabrine thing was a little different. It's a delicate topic to discuss without people interpreting things as me saying Scalabrine's not good or something. But despite the lopsided scores, that event was pretty ugly basketball all the way around - post-retirement, out-of-shape Brian Scalabrine included.

I think the first opponent was a skinny walk-on at Syracuse? Looked like Scalabrine took him off guard with his strength at first, jumping out 6-2. But after that, it wasn't pretty on either side.

Scalabrine's offensive play-by-play: Missed fallaway, missed fallaway, layup blocked, missed pull-up from top of key, made jumper, missed post turn, missed layup (foul), missed hook, missed three, made banging layup, missed three, missed layup (blocked), made three-pointer, made stepthrough, missed three, made banker (game-over).

Unofficially, I think that was a stretch where he went 2-11 then finished up 5-15.

In contrast, that first dude had a lot of opportunities but just squandered them. On one hand, it could be argued that he scored two junk buckets (lefty contested layup, ugly lefty hook). But he airballed an open three, airballed an open stepthrough, immediately pulled from 30 twice and nearly airballed each, and generally squandered many opportunities for which someone else may have been able to capitalize.

Winning is winning, but I tend to believe that a typical NBA player would handle this type of competition much more handily (which is understandable because Scalabrine was out of shape here).

Also, small detail, but I think the shot clock and NBA three-point line threw most of those guys for a loop. Both unusual circumstances for them, I reckon.

TL;DR: I think NBA players would dominate everywhere, I just think the Scalabrine challenge wasn't exactly a shining example. I probably prefer the Chris Andersen tape over it, where one can see how an NBA center who never got an offensive opportunity in the league still has the capability to take one dribble from the wing, not even beat a defender cleanly, and still double-pump reverse dunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3-Ds7-gAs

[T_L_P]

honestly no, Id have trouble defending him because of the height differential, but on offense there is simply nothing he could do. My ball handling skills and quickness would simply be too much. He goes into reach? I blow by him for the layup. He holds off me, i knock down a jumper. He is better than every aspect of basketball than me except ball handling and pure speed/quicks. In a 1-1 game it be very likely we both couldnt defend each other, but wed both be knocking down our shots. Probably a tie.
:facepalm

[tomtucker]

honestly no, Id have trouble defending him because of the height differential, but on offense there is simply nothing he could do. My ball handling skills and quickness would simply be too much. He goes into reach? I blow by him for the layup. He holds off me, i knock down a jumper. He is better than every aspect of basketball than me except ball handling and pure speed/quicks. In a 1-1 game it be very likely we both couldnt defend each other, but wed both be knocking down our shots. Probably a tie.
:biggums:

[Darius]

I still remember 41yr old Glen Rice showing up an a UCLA rec game I was playing in.

He was wearing converse low tops and hitting from half court every time.

[TemporaMutantur]

honestly no, Id have trouble defending him because of the height differential, but on offense there is simply nothing he could do. My ball handling skills and quickness would simply be too much. He goes into reach? I blow by him for the layup. He holds off me, i knock down a jumper. He is better than every aspect of basketball than me except ball handling and pure speed/quicks. In a 1-1 game it be very likely we both couldnt defend each other, but wed both be knocking down our shots. Probably a tie.

We should start a kickstarter to make this possible for you.

[Darius]

honestly no, Id have trouble defending him because of the height differential, but on offense there is simply nothing he could do. My ball handling skills and quickness would simply be too much. He goes into reach? I blow by him for the layup. He holds off me, i knock down a jumper. He is better than every aspect of basketball than me except ball handling and pure speed/quicks. In a 1-1 game it be very likely we both couldnt defend each other, but wed both be knocking down our shots. Probably a tie.

Uh, JJ Redick is considered to be an average defender in the NBA.

Somehow, I doubt he would have trouble guarding you...

[f0und]

i remember reading a thread just like this one, asking how well so and so would do on the the playground. then some guy chimed in about when he watched derek fisher play at rucker(i think). now fisher isnt anything special. he's solid but thats about it. he said fisher flat out dominated, but not with flashy moves, dunks, crosses, etc. he did it by doing everything right and doing it with precision. every pass was sharp and crisp. every screen was a good screen. every shot was a good open look. all holes in the defense were exploited. every decision he made was sound. he was sharp and efficient, just like you'd expect a professional to be and the other players didnt know wtf was going on.

so while in the nba, he makes plenty of mistakes because there is little margin for error. other players are conditioned to recognize all the little things. but on the playground, all that stuff doesnt even register in their minds.

[Lebronxrings]

the gap between an nba player and the best player in the rec isn't night and day. For example i've been playing ball since i was 5, everyday shooting hoops with my friends. I'm 6'6, pretty quick, strong, like a rudy gay type body but more toned out. I could beat some nba players like JJ reddick. Other than shooting, i'm fairly confident i best him in anything else.

[Jacks3]

the gap between an nba player and the best player in the rec isn't night and day. For example i've been playing ball since i was 5, everyday shooting hoops with my friends. I'm 6'6, pretty quick, strong, like a rudy gay type body but more toned out. I could beat some nba players like JJ reddick. Other than shooting, i'm fairly confident i best him in anything else.
:roll:

[AirFederer]

https://www.instagram.com/p/r-ZOrBRO3R/?taken-by=jjredick4

[LONGTIME]

Pro athletes are superhuman. :coleman:

[20Four]

Dont know but if Kobe showed up he wouldnt get picked
This thread isn't about kobe you fvkking fakkit....like WTF did kobe not sign your autograph or did he fvck your mom? Why you bringing him up? You insecure lebronze stan....I fvcking hate you

[Genaro]

Redick would make 40 points without even jumping to shoot. Pointless thread.

[Rake2204]

i remember reading a thread just like this one, asking how well so and so would do on the the playground. then some guy chimed in about when he watched derek fisher play at rucker(i think). now fisher isnt anything special. he's solid but thats about it. he said fisher flat out dominated, but not with flashy moves, dunks, crosses, etc. he did it by doing everything right and doing it with precision. every pass was sharp and crisp. every screen was a good screen. every shot was a good open look. all holes in the defense were exploited. every decision he made was sound. he was sharp and efficient, just like you'd expect a professional to be and the other players didnt know wtf was going on.

so while in the nba, he makes plenty of mistakes because there is little margin for error. other players are conditioned to recognize all the little things. but on the playground, all that stuff doesnt even register in their minds.I remember that thread, but I can't recall if someone was actually talking about a time they saw Derek Fisher play at Rucker or just hypothetically wondering what it'd be like. Those lines you mentioned sound a lot like me, haha (the precision, fundamentals, etc.).

That's kind of what it was like playing against Charlie Bell. He kind of mixed in to our open runs a little bit. But he just didn't really do anything wrong. Like you said above (which might just be me echoing myself), everything was just sharp, fast, and fully fundamental. There's something to be said for playing against someone who gives the impression that he's never going to screw up.

Underrated professional skill: decision making, timing, and overall mental approach. I've seen regular folks perform similar plays as NBA players on many occasions, but often as one-offs, or with many stupid/lazy decisions in-between. I've seen a lot of next level players excel in large part due to their understanding of the game and subsequent output. It's not just the ability to make plays, but knowing exactly how to induce those plays and when to make them and how to execute them at their whim.

[20Four]

I'd destroy current MJ in a 1 on 1

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Michael-Jordan-Misses-Dunk.gif

Look, heres a 39 year old MJ who can barely dunk, you think he'd stand a chance 13 years later? :lol


He's currently fat, overweight, smokes cigars.


http://www.simpleprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/michael-jordan-gut-playing-golf.jpg

So yup, I'd take him, the supposed 'GOAT", I'd beat him 11-7 in a 1 on 1

Must suck to know both your parents were crack whores and how you turned up eh? You must be one lonely mofo in life....

[IGOTGAME]

I do think certain guys can beat a few NBA players in 1 on1 just due to a weird matchup issue. jJ isn't one of those players tho. But a former D1 forward on break from playing in Spain might beat a undersized NBA point guard just due to the size problems.

[DrakeTheSnake]

He would obviously dominate.

[90sgoat]

Pro NBA players are probably where the gap to skilled amateur is the greatest of almost all sports.

Being a pro is as mentioned also very much about mental game. It's also about speed and consistency. Every dog has its day on the playground, the NBA player is just mad consistent. The same shot, the same score, over and over and over. These players must have taken so, so many shots. I mean, even dedicated amateurs shoot like 500 a day in addition to practice, how many did Steve Nash shoot.

[ErhnamDjinn]

rofl wasnt there a Video where Brian White Mamba Scalabrine went against 3 players back to back to back which were all Division 1 dudes. And he absolutely wrecked them from inside the paint and from outside? And the guys he played against were also like 6'3 to 6'5.

[SpanishACB]

If Perkins showed up at a rec trying to play PG he would destroy.
plenty of NBA C's would dominate playing PG, even bulky bench warmers. But Perk? Not sure

[Rake2204]

rofl wasnt there a Video where Brian White Mamba Scalabrine went against 3 players back to back to back which were all Division 1 dudes. And he absolutely wrecked them from inside the paint and from outside? And the guys he played against were also like 6'3 to 6'5.Let me preface by acknowledging that NBA players will dominate most amateur folks all day every day. I've maintained that throughout this thread.

But that Scalabrine clip was posted on the last page and though the scores were heavily in his favor, I'm not sure I'd say he wrecked everyone in a manner one would expect. I posted a play-by-play summary from his first game and he went through a streak where he missed 9 of 11 shots and got blocked twice. If I recall correctly, there were some unseemly moments in the other games as well (but I only watched the first one this morning). Again, as mentioned, he was out of shape and retired, but I haven't seen that clip as great example of an NBA player's dominance.

That said, J.J. Redick seems like another one of those guys that'd just be a nightmare to play against. I have limited shame in my game so I'll readily admit that I've played against small-school talent who at times seemed to be able to light me up from deep regardless of my defensive tactics. So imagining playing against a guy with 50% accuracy from 25 feet deep and beyond just sounds like it'd be the worst. He needed a sliver of open space against 6'8'' Anthony Tolliver to kill a clutch triple last night. He wouldn't think twice about lighting up a 6'4'' amateur.

[SpanishACB]

Let me preface by acknowledging that NBA players will dominate most amateur folks all day every day. I've maintained that throughout this thread.

But that Scalabrine clip was posted on the last page and though the scores were heavily in his favor, I'm not sure I'd say he wrecked everyone in a manner one would expect. I posted a play-by-play summary from his first game and he went through a streak where he missed 9 of 11 shots and got blocked twice. If I recall correctly, there were some unseemly moments in the other games as well (but I only watched the first one this morning). Again, as mentioned, he was out of shape and retired, but I haven't seen that clip as great example of an NBA player's dominance.

That said, J.J. Redick seems like another one of those guys that'd just be a nightmare to play against. I have limited shame in my game so I'll readily admit that I've played against small-school talent who at times seemed to be able to light me up from deep regardless of my defensive tactics. So imagining playing against a guy with 50% accuracy from 25 feet deep and beyond just sounds like it'd be the worst. He needed a sliver of open space against 6'8'' Anthony Tolliver to kill a clutch triple last night. He wouldn't think twice about lighting up a 6'4'' amateur.

the Scalabrine challenge thing, that day, he plays a bunch of university players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOw8aC78LoU

around the 15 minute mark he plays a black kid, he beats him 11-0 but the kid actually challenges Scal defensively and makes him miss a lot, whilst being much smaller

[f0und]

the Scalabrine challenge thing, that day, he plays a bunch of university players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOw8aC78LoU

around the 15 minute mark he plays a black kid, he beats him 11-0 but the kid actually challenges Scal defensively and makes him miss a lot, whilst being much smaller

also keep in mind that this is just one on one. only one facet of basketball. when it comes to knowing all the complexities of the team game and how to execute them, they're not even in the same universe.

[Rake2204]

the Scalabrine challenge thing, that day, he plays a bunch of university players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOw8aC78LoU

around the 15 minute mark he plays a black kid, he beats him 11-0 but the kid actually challenges Scal defensively and makes him miss a lot, whilst being much smallerYep. I think that guy was 6'2''-ish and possibly played low level minor league ball at one point.

As you said, the 11-0 score paints this picture of Scalabrine coasting past this dude with ease for a quick beatdown. But the guy had his chances, missing an open layup and an uncontested 14 footer then bodying up on the defensive end and forcing misses on 5 of Scalabrine's first 6 attempts (including one airball and one that just barely grazing iron).

I reckon that particular game came down to those other underlooked professional basketball intangibles: strength, size, the ability to wear down one's opponent, etc. But after watching that 30 minute video, while some of those guys were honestly smoked, others seemed to leave me thinking that Scalabrine may have been a little more out of practice than I thought he'd be.


also keep in mind that this is just one on one. only one facet of basketball. when it comes to knowing all the complexities of the team game and how to execute them, they're not even in the same universe.Super true. One-on-one is often pretty unreliable when it comes to judging a player's true talent. Moreover, that was kind of a difficult variant of one-on-one. The 10-second shot clock hindered both sides of the ball (both Scalabrine and his opponents had to take some awful and rushed shots throughout). And while dead ball after a single shot is a little more standard, it looked like those guys also weren't used to an NBA line (understandably).

But yeah, I have zero doubt Scalabrine's understanding of the game and ability to exploit most portions of the game to his advantage is as good as one would imagine, so one-on-one limits what he brought to the table during a real game, even considering his clean sweep of the competition here.

[Lebronxrings]

https://www.instagram.com/p/r-ZOrBRO3R/?taken-by=jjredick4
this isn't close to impressive. Hes 6'4-6'5 and does some pretty shit dunks. Even my nonathletic 6'3 friends can do this.

[stalkerforlife]

Dumbest and most racist thread in history.

OP got what he wanted, though; attention.

[oarabbus]

the gap between an nba player and the best player in the rec isn't night and day. For example i've been playing ball since i was 5, everyday shooting hoops with my friends. I'm 6'6, pretty quick, strong, like a rudy gay type body but more toned out. I could beat some nba players like JJ reddick. Other than shooting, i'm fairly confident i best him in anything else.


:lol good one do you do stand up comedy?

[LONGTIME]

Pro NBA players are probably where the gap to skilled amateur is the greatest of almost all sports.

:oldlol: :roll:

[FKAri]

:oldlol: :roll:

Seems like he deleted his post :lol

Compared to many sports, basketball has a very vibrant competitive amateur scene which would probably close the gap more than anything. I'd imagine the gap in a sport like football(American) would be far bigger.

[SpanishACB]

Seems like he deleted his post :lol

Compared to many sports, basketball has a very vibrant competitive amateur scene which would probably close the gap more than anything. I'd imagine the gap in a sport like football(American) would be far bigger.

american football possibly has the easiest entry of almost all team sports I can think off.

NBA has plenty of players that started playing in their late teens or even early 20s. Good players too.

This is basically unthinkable in other sports.

[Meticode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysv3v7uXblw

These NBA players aren't untouchable.

:pimp:
:roll: The guy at the end, "That's not as bad as LeBron though."

[Clifton]

Well, considering he dominated NCAA Division I and is one of the greatest college players of all time, yes, he would dominate pickup games at the Y.

Are there seriously posters on here who didn't watch Reddick in college? For years I was the young guy on here who didn't know anything...

No, Reddick was a college beast and most, including me, doubted that his game would translate to the NBA. But considering he scored over 20ppg on a Duke roster no one you know could even make, yes, he would murder everyone.

I'm used to posts like this being about Derrick Fisher or something. Reddick has been dominant on national television.

[tomtucker]

Redick would murder any amature.....but i do belive there as some euro bums in the NBA that has no business being in the league , for instance jose calderon, pablo prigioni, just to name a few....... there are shitty euros in the NBA for sure, perhaps they are there to appeal to viewers in the rest of the world . Could it be a money issue, NBA needs that overseas TV revenue ?

[TheCalmInsanity]

Well, considering he dominated NCAA Division I and is one of the greatest college players of all time, yes, he would dominate pickup games at the Y.

Are there seriously posters on here who didn't watch Reddick in college? For years I was the young guy on here who didn't know anything...

No, Reddick was a college beast and most, including me, doubted that his game would translate to the NBA. But considering he scored over 20ppg on a Duke roster no one you know could even make, yes, he would murder everyone.

I'm used to posts like this being about Derrick Fisher or something. Reddick has been dominant on national television.

He dropped 35 ppg for Duke

[90sgoat]

Seems like he deleted his post :lol

Compared to many sports, basketball has a very vibrant competitive amateur scene which would probably close the gap more than anything. I'd imagine the gap in a sport like football(American) would be far bigger.

Did not delete?

If you take soccer, you put Messi on a really bad team and they are a bad team with a great player who will look significantly worse.

The impact of putting Durant on any team is far greater than that.

I mean, we see this so clearly, you have these D-league studs, former college marquee players who put up 30 ppg then go to the NBA and average 2 points on 30%. I mean the difference in impact between MJ and a D-leaguer is far greater than say Messi and the best player in Romania.

[ScalsFan21]

I'm baffled this thread comes up so often.

Same here. There is absolutely no NBA player that wouldn't take a shit all over any rec league or anything close to it. Current Scalabrine could probably drop 70-30 on 95% from the field if he wanted to in a league like that...

[inclinerator]

I still remember 41yr old Glen Rice showing up an a UCLA rec game I was playing in.

He was wearing converse low tops and hitting from half court every time.
everytime? steph curry doesnt make half court shots everytime in practice, youtube if you dont believe me

[ClipperRevival]

i remember reading a thread just like this one, asking how well so and so would do on the the playground. then some guy chimed in about when he watched derek fisher play at rucker(i think). now fisher isnt anything special. he's solid but thats about it. he said fisher flat out dominated, but not with flashy moves, dunks, crosses, etc. he did it by doing everything right and doing it with precision. every pass was sharp and crisp. every screen was a good screen. every shot was a good open look. all holes in the defense were exploited. every decision he made was sound. he was sharp and efficient, just like you'd expect a professional to be and the other players didnt know wtf was going on.

so while in the nba, he makes plenty of mistakes because there is little margin for error. other players are conditioned to recognize all the little things. but on the playground, all that stuff doesnt even register in their minds.

Exactly!

Pros do everything with precision, decisiveness and don't waste movement. They read and react to every situation instantly and make the right basketball play. Also add in being fundamentally sound along with being taller and more athletic than everyone else and it's really different levels.

[theaussieguy]

its like you guys cant take no for an answer. Its like you just cant admit there are posters on here who would MURDER you on the court so when someone like me for example who would absolutely destroy Reddick on the offensive end (not defensively as I said earlier), you all claim troll and are in disbelief simply because you need to keep the illusion alive that nba players are all knowing mystical bball gods. They are human, and they can be beat easily if u have the quicks, ball handling and execution. Reddick would be lucky to get one stop on me in 1 on 1. In team basketball he would be much better, but 1 on 1 he stands little chance tbh.

[outbreak]

its like you guys cant take no for an answer. Its like you just cant admit there are posters on here who would MURDER you on the court so when someone like me for example who would absolutely destroy Reddick on the offensive end (not defensively as I said earlier), you all claim troll and are in disbelief simply because you need to keep the illusion alive that nba players are all knowing mystical bball gods. They are human, and they can be beat easily if u have the quicks, ball handling and execution. Reddick would be lucky to get one stop on me in 1 on 1. In team basketball he would be much better, but 1 on 1 he stands little chance tbh.

TLDR: please show me attention because I have zero friends in real life

[outbreak]

Did not delete?

If you take soccer, you put Messi on a really bad team and they are a bad team with a great player who will look significantly worse.

The impact of putting Durant on any team is far greater than that.

I mean, we see this so clearly, you have these D-league studs, former college marquee players who put up 30 ppg then go to the NBA and average 2 points on 30%. I mean the difference in impact between MJ and a D-leaguer is far greater than say Messi and the best player in Romania.
But part of that is just because the nba is more of an individual game than soccer.

[theaussieguy]

TLDR: please show me attention because I have zero friends in real life

translation: bad at basketball

[ralph_i_el]

Exactly!

Pros do everything with precision, decisiveness and don't waste movement. They read and react to every situation instantly and make the right basketball play. Also add in being fundamentally sound along with being taller and more athletic than everyone else and it's really different levels.

Yup. JJ wouldn't even have to shoot J's in a good rec league game.

[Nick Young]

Even Raphael Araujo RIGHT NOW could show up to a local rec and dominate, and he wouldn't even have to go in the paint to do it.

You have no idea how good these guys are.

JJ woult be able to get easy layups at will. if he got bored of that he would drain 3s over everyone. Defensively he would look like Scottie Pippen. These NBA guys are at a whole nother level.


Even Dan Dickau right now can go to a local rec team and would score at will.

[Kvnzhangyay]

its like you guys cant take no for an answer. Its like you just cant admit there are posters on here who would MURDER you on the court so when someone like me for example who would absolutely destroy Reddick on the offensive end (not defensively as I said earlier), you all claim troll and are in disbelief simply because you need to keep the illusion alive that nba players are all knowing mystical bball gods. They are human, and they can be beat easily if u have the quicks, ball handling and execution. Reddick would be lucky to get one stop on me in 1 on 1. In team basketball he would be much better, but 1 on 1 he stands little chance tbh.

Talk about hubris

[bigt]

its like you guys cant take no for an answer. Its like you just cant admit there are posters on here who would MURDER you on the court so when someone like me for example who would absolutely destroy Reddick on the offensive end (not defensively as I said earlier), you all claim troll and are in disbelief simply because you need to keep the illusion alive that nba players are all knowing mystical bball gods. They are human, and they can be beat easily if u have the quicks, ball handling and execution. Reddick would be lucky to get one stop on me in 1 on 1. In team basketball he would be much better, but 1 on 1 he stands little chance tbh.

If it's that easy for you to beat Reddick on offense then why aren't you in the NBA? I mean if a starter would be lucky to even get a stop on you surely you'd be able to at least come off the bench?

[Prime_Shaq]

its like you guys cant take no for an answer. Its like you just cant admit there are posters on here who would MURDER you on the court so when someone like me for example who would absolutely destroy Reddick on the offensive end (not defensively as I said earlier), you all claim troll and are in disbelief simply because you need to keep the illusion alive that nba players are all knowing mystical bball gods. They are human, and they can be beat easily if u have the quicks, ball handling and execution. Reddick would be lucky to get one stop on me in 1 on 1. In team basketball he would be much better, but 1 on 1 he stands little chance tbh.
:rolleyes:

[FKAri]

If it's that easy for you to beat Reddick on offense then why aren't you in the NBA? I mean if a starter would be lucky to even get a stop on you surely you'd be able to at least come off the bench?

Why sacrifice his body like a circus act for chump change? He's CEO'in 100k a day.

[LoneyROY7]

Imma tweet the homie Redick this shit. Have him come through your local rec and shit on your chest.

Hot carls all day, bitch.

[brooks_thompson]

Dan Dickau

Now that's a blast from the past

[T_L_P]

its like you guys cant take no for an answer. Its like you just cant admit there are posters on here who would MURDER you on the court so when someone like me for example who would absolutely destroy Reddick on the offensive end (not defensively as I said earlier), you all claim troll and are in disbelief simply because you need to keep the illusion alive that nba players are all knowing mystical bball gods. They are human, and they can be beat easily if u have the quicks, ball handling and execution. Reddick would be lucky to get one stop on me in 1 on 1. In team basketball he would be much better, but 1 on 1 he stands little chance tbh.

So show us some proof of your amazing skills, tbh. :sleeping

[OnFire]

the gap between an nba player and the best player in the rec isn't night and day. For example i've been playing ball since i was 5, everyday shooting hoops with my friends. I'm 6'6, pretty quick, strong, like a rudy gay type body but more toned out. I could beat some nba players like JJ reddick. Other than shooting, i'm fairly confident i best him in anything else.

So you just sitting around ISH leaving all those millions on the table....

[OnFire]

its like you guys cant take no for an answer. Its like you just cant admit there are posters on here who would MURDER you on the court so when someone like me for example who would absolutely destroy Reddick on the offensive end (not defensively as I said earlier), you all claim troll and are in disbelief simply because you need to keep the illusion alive that nba players are all knowing mystical bball gods. They are human, and they can be beat easily if u have the quicks, ball handling and execution. Reddick would be lucky to get one stop on me in 1 on 1. In team basketball he would be much better, but 1 on 1 he stands little chance tbh.

We dont believe you because youre a liar. If you were better than reddick youd be the greatest aussie basketball player of all time and intead you are a nobody. So if you can beat reddick go get your 8million a year or stfu.

Edit...unless....is that you Dellavadova? You still arent better than reddick.

[Derka]

Why on Earth are you guys even replying to theaussieguy? :lol He's clearly full of shit.

[theaussieguy]

If it's that easy for you to beat Reddick on offense then why aren't you in the NBA? I mean if a starter would be lucky to even get a stop on you surely you'd be able to at least come off the bench?

because there isnt jack shit I can do about my height or poverty wingspan. I would simply be too great a Liability on defense, I could walk on to any team in a pro league elsewhere in the world tho without question.

[AirFederer]

because there isnt jack shit I can do about my height or poverty wingspan. I would simply be too great a Liability on defense, I could walk on to any team in a pro league elsewhere in the world tho without question.

Love your mixtape, you are clearly NBA material. :bowdown:

- Good job, good job, gimme one more :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js03VrbHfy8

[f0und]

because there isnt jack shit I can do about my height or poverty wingspan. I would simply be too great a Liability on defense, I could walk on to any team in a pro league elsewhere in the world tho without question.

sure thing buddy

:whatever:

[imnew09]

because there isnt jack shit I can do about my height or poverty wingspan. I would simply be too great a Liability on defense, I could walk on to any team in a pro league elsewhere in the world tho without question. and get bukkake on your fken face

FIXED

[ShawkFactory]

because there isnt jack shit I can do about my height or poverty wingspan. I would simply be too great a Liability on defense, I could walk on to any team in a pro league elsewhere in the world tho without question.
Do it then. Pro leagues pay a lot of money.

[bigt]

because there isnt jack shit I can do about my height or poverty wingspan. I would simply be too great a Liability on defense, I could walk on to any team in a pro league elsewhere in the world tho without question.

Yeah I understand man, I was just talking to Nate Robinson the other day and he was telling me how if he was taller he would have made it into the NBA too....oh wait....

[KnicksWolves]

Love your mixtape, you are clearly NBA material. :bowdown:

- Good job, good job, gimme one more :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js03VrbHfy8

Whatever happened to Theoo?

[T_L_P]

Whatever happened to Theoo?

Last I heard he hit a rough patch when every started negging him. He didn't like the red bars and it really made him sad.

Think he left before mods got rid of the rep system, though.

[Boogaboog]

This thread. :oldlol:

[G-train]

because there isnt jack shit I can do about my height or poverty wingspan. I would simply be too great a Liability on defense, I could walk on to any team in a pro league elsewhere in the world tho without question.

Have you at least played SEABL level in Australia?