What would you think about havin a special "manufacturing state" in the US?

[Akrazotile]

Let's say we turned Iowa into a special state for manufacturing. We made a minimum wage exemption law so that it could compete with the international manufacturing markets. People who come here illegally or as "refugees" would be permited to go there and work. Whether it's from latin america, middle east, even from China bc they want to practice their religion freely. There will be jobs available for them here in Iowa because weve allowed the wages to be competitive. After a certain period of time working, youre granted the right to go work and live wherever you want in the country.

This would help us out here as well because we dont have to ship all these goods in from elsewhere, saves a ton of money. Plus the tax revenue from exporting them could be used partly to help keep the state in decent working and living order.


I know many you guys are EXTREMELY narrow minded, afraid to discuss ideas that could lead to politically incorrect possibilities and wary of proposals not spoon fed safely by your own liberal leaders - but what do yall think?


Also the idea came to me on the toilet 20 seconds ago, so its not some carefully worked out idea. Just a topic for discussion. Curious to see what kind of holes can be legitimately poked in it, since Im sure there are plenty. Also will be funny when libs freak out about the political incorrectness of it.

[Akrazotile]

:confusedshrug:

[oarabbus]

We should also make prisoners turn generators and generate electricity or manufacture shit besides license plates

[MMKM]

:lol
We should also make prisoners turn generators and generate electricity or manufacture shit besides license plates
:lol kind of like the Matrix? Human battery?

[MMKM]

We would need a dirt cheap labor force. Does China export children yet?

[Jameerthefear]

We should also make prisoners turn generators and generate electricity or manufacture shit besides license plates
generating electricity in that manner is pretty much completely useless

[DonDadda59]

Let's say we turned Iowa into a special state for manufacturing. We made a minimum wage exemption law so that it could compete with the international manufacturing markets. People who come here illegally or as "refugees" would be permited to go there and work. Whether it's from latin america, middle east, even from China bc they want to practice their religion freely. There will be jobs available for them here in Iowa because weve allowed the wages to be competitive. After a certain period of time working, youre granted the right to go work and live wherever you want in the country.

This would help us out here as well because we dont have to ship all these goods in from elsewhere, saves a ton of money. Plus the tax revenue from exporting them could be used partly to help keep the state in decent working and living order.


I know many you guys are EXTREMELY narrow minded, afraid to discuss ideas that could lead to politically incorrect possibilities and wary of proposals not spoon fed safely by your own liberal leaders - but what do yall think?


Also the idea came to me on the toilet 20 seconds ago, so its not some carefully worked out idea. Just a topic for discussion. Curious to see what kind of holes can be legitimately poked in it, since Im sure there are plenty. Also will be funny when libs freak out about the political incorrectness of it.

Shocking.

You should run for public office on your platform of immigrant sweat shop States and forced mass sterilization. A year ago I would've said you have absolutely no shot. Looking at the GOP field today... I say go for it. :cheers:

[Akrazotile]

Shocking.

You should run for public office on your platform of immigrant sweat shop States and forced mass sterilization. A year ago I would've said you have absolutely no shot. Looking at the GOP field today... I say go for it. :cheers:


Provides jobs and preserves resources.

Where are your ideas?

"Lets all just get along, that solves teh problemses!"

Dat Barney-the-Dinosaur wisdom doe. Life's not a fairytale my man. Solutions arent always wonderful. Nothing is perfect. Gotta do what's best for the long run, even when it doesnt make you feel like a warm, superior social champion.

Such is the essence.... of Alpha.

[Jailblazers7]

Sounds a whole lot like indentured servitude...

[Godzuki]

we're too PC and pampering to do something like this. it'd be impossible with the way mainstream America thinks like sheep how everyone is entitled to this and that :sleeping

[Akrazotile]

Sounds a whole lot like indentured servitude...


Im sorry, are factory workers making more elsewhere around the globe? The whole reason illegals come here from Mejico is to work under the table jobs for less than minimum wage, bc its still better than the alternative.

Every sigle thing youre wearing and using right now was made by someone making less than USA minimum wage.

Stop deluding yall selves :facepalm

[DonDadda59]

Sounds a whole lot like indentured servitude...

I thought conservatives were obsessed with keeping everything as it was in 1954... Looks like they're going feudal with this bitch. More like 1254.


Provides jobs and preserves resources.

Where are your ideas?

"Lets all just get along, that solves teh problemses!"

Dat Barney-the-Dinosaur wisdom doe. Life's not a fairytale my man. Solutions arent always wonderful. Nothing is perfect. Gotta do what's best for the long run, even when it doesnt make you feel like a warm, superior social champion.

Such is the essence.... of Alpha.

BRB going to take a Shit.

Starface 2016. Feudalism and Sterilization. You're gonna change the goddamn World. :rockon:

[Jailblazers7]

So we are going to solve our immigration issue by...being more like Mexico. Damn, talk about making America great again.

[Akrazotile]

So we are going to solve our immigration issue by...being more like Mexico. Damn, talk about making America great again.


Youre arguing illogically because you dont want to concede an non-leftist, un-PC idea could be viable.

Thats the problem with this country. Too many weenies wanna just stay suckling their party's intellectual teets. Terrified to even discuss an idea if their peer group might give them a cold stare over it.

Grow a ****in pair.

[Akrazotile]

I thought conservatives were obsessed with keeping everything as it was in 1954... Looks like they're going feudal with this bitch. More like 1254.



BRB going to take a Shit.

Starface 2016. Feudalism and Sterilization. You're gonna change the goddamn World. :rockon:


Yeah, I see. It's okay to buy stuff made by workers getting paid peanuts in Vietnam. But having those same workers do the same thing here and benefitting our economy, that is way below dondadda's high ethical standards.

:facepalm

[Nanners]

you are only looking at one small part of the cost of business. in order to truly compete you have to do a lot more than reduce wages.

if i build my chemical factory in some place like india, there are virtually zero environmental or building safety standards to follow, there is no OSHA or anything thats gonna shut me down if i endanger my workers, and on the rare chance that i get in any legal trouble its relatively cheap to bribe the local officials.

if i build my chemical factory in iowa, i need to monitor and capture all of the emissions and discharges, i need to follow strict building standards, i need to ensure my workers safety, and while possible to pay off local officials its a hell of a lot more expensive than it is elsewhere.

[DonDadda59]

Yeah, I see. It's okay to buy stuff made by workers getting paid peanuts in Vietnam. But having those same workers do the same thing here and benefitting our economy, that is way below dondadda's high ethical standards.

:facepalm

So your plan is to make America great again by turning us into Vietnam? :biggums:

Can I be your campaign manager?

[MMKM]

what if instead of slave labor you just used AI based machines? We can't be that far away from it

[Akrazotile]

you are only looking at one small part of the cost of business. in order to truly compete you have to do a lot more than reduce wages.

if i build my chemical factory in some place like india, there are virtually zero environmental or building safety standards to follow, there is no OSHA or anything thats gonna shut me down if i endanger my workers, and on the rare chance that i get in any legal trouble its relatively cheap to bribe the local officials.

if i build my chemical factory in iowa, i need to monitor and capture all of the emissions and discharges, i need to follow strict building standards, i need to ensure my workers safety, and while possible to pay off local officials its a hell of a lot more expensive than it is elsewhere.


I agree, and that's why it wouldnt make sense for every kind of manufacturing.

But I am sure there are plenty of viable industries that COULD still be done in America, if it werent for the federal minimum wage. Thats the MAIN reason jobs have gone elsewhere.

If were going to bring poor, unskilled labor to this country ANYWAY... Why not set some manufacturing back up and give them something to do for their wages? Instead of just HANDING them benefits?? I mean seriously.

[Akrazotile]

what if instead of slave labor you just used AI based machines? We can't be that far away from it


What?

Are you trolling or something? I dont understand.

[MMKM]

What?

Are you trolling or something? I dont understand.

No just mis spoke. How about instead of below minimum wage labor, we used machines. It seems like that erases all of the morality based objections

[Jailblazers7]

Youre arguing illogically because you dont want to concede an non-leftist, un-PC idea could be viable.

Thats the problem with this country. Too many weenies wanna just stay suckling their party's intellectual teets. Terrified to even discuss an idea if their peer group might give them a cold stare over it.

Grow a ****in pair.

You think manufacturing heavy states would be ok with losing jobs because a federal initiative makes indentured servitude legal in Iowa? Or the fact that managing a factory with workers who speak 10 different languages might have some issues? Or that schools would be overrun by poor foreign children who speak Farsi might be difficult to educate? Does the government increase funding for public schools in Iowa?

Just because your idea is radical and anti-PC doesn't mean it isn't stupid And deserves discussion.

[Akrazotile]

No just mis spoke. How about instead of below minimum wage labor, we used machines. It seems like that erases all of the morality based objections


Thatd be fine, that being a possibility down the line is one of the main reasons we should focus on reducing global population. But I dont think we're at the point machines can do all of it yet. Otherwise I assume they would be. In the mean time, let's have illegal migrants who claim they want to come here and work, actually work.

[Akrazotile]

You think manufacturing heavy states would be ok with losing jobs because a federal initiative makes indentured servitude legal in Iowa? Or the fact that managing a factory with workers who speak 10 different languages might have some issues? Or that schools would be overrun by poor foreign children who speak Farsi might be difficult to educate? Does the government increase funding for public schools in Iowa?

Just because your idea is radical and anti-PC doesn't mean it isn't stupid And deserves discussion.


This didnt already happen successfully once in america with european immigrants?

[MMKM]

Thatd be fine, that being a possibility down the line is one of the main reasons we should focus on reducing global population. But I dont think we're at the point machines can do all of it yet. Otherwise I assume they would be. In the mean time, let's have illegal migrants who claim they want to come here and work, actually work.

By "reduce the global population"....I'm afraid to ask :oldlol: you talking forced sterilization? Forced contraception? Beyond that? Going Chinese on us?

[Akrazotile]

By "reduce the global population"....I'm afraid to ask :oldlol: you talking forced sterilization? Forced contraception? Beyond that? Going Chinese on us?

Well this is the sensationalist headline-grabbing way of putting it, but the 'carrot' could always be tried first, before the sword.

The developed world could pump tons of money into these countries on conditions of enacting and ENFORCING child limits.

If the countries didnt comply, then yeah, get some planes to do a nice lil flyover and drop birth control in the water. Doesnt matter to me. I believe in what should and needs to be done. Not some antiquated, fairytale liberal code of morals given to them by some guy in the cloudss with a white beard - err, I'm sorry, I mean Barrack Obama and other preachy party leaders whom they all nod and agree with like good lil sheepies.

[DukeDelonte13]

eminent domain the entire state of iowa. Ok.

[Akrazotile]

eminent domain the entire state of iowa. Ok.


Yeah? So?

Give them a check and a lil stake in the manufacturrers. You think muhfukkaz wouldnt be happy to get paid for leaving Iowa??

Theres plenty of open land anyway. Nobody HAS to move. You can still bring in immigrants and set up factories.

[Dresta]

I don't see how it's any more morally objectionable than living off of China's slave labour force, which is what America is currently doing.

[Akrazotile]

I don't see how it's any more morally objectionable than living off of China's slave labour force, which is what America is currently doing.

Exactly.

Goods are produced dirt cheap by foreign people in other countries.

What is objectionable about taking the exact same process, and putting it on American soil? The people would actually live BETTER here than they do in places like China, Afghanistan, and Honduras. And it would help our OWN economy.

But that's the liberal mindset. Greedy and self-interested, but thinks if he PRETENDS HES NOT that's enough for a clean conscience. He'll eat the meat, he just doesn't wanna see how it's made.

These dumb sheep just don't have brains that can compute ideas that aren't typically PC whitewashed ideological balderdash. These dummies are afraid to talk seriously about ideas if they think it's something their peer group will react with outrage to. They're dumb, insecure, and need to stick to the flock. They're literally socially conditioned robots. Stupid ****ing animals. Look at them with all the same attempts to twist my words, change the topic, ad hominem, moral soapboxing, not a single original thought from the lot of them.

This is why mankind still has problems after 3000 years worth of civilization. Because the stupid mobs can't think for themselves, and they just get divided and exploited. They're all trying to impress the next guy with how eagerly they can spew the talking points of whatever is ethically trendy.

They're the fukking genital sores on humanity.