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CavaliersFTW
12-16-2015, 04:51 AM
Say two players go up for a rebound and grab it at the same time and it turns into a jumpball...

Who gets the rebound stat? Is it the player who wins the jump ball tap? Is it a totally different player who got the ball tapped to them on the tap? Or does nobody get the rebound?

FKAri
12-16-2015, 05:06 AM
I got a better one: A pass that leads to a shooting foul. Should it be scored. I always felt many players got robbed of highlight assists or plays when the receiver would get fouled.

LoneyROY7
12-16-2015, 05:08 AM
I got a better one. Who's the league leader in hockey assists?

Achilleas
12-16-2015, 05:11 AM
I got a better one: A pass that leads to a shooting foul. Should it be scored. I always felt many players got robbed of highlight assists or plays when the receiver would get fouled.

this year in euroleague when someone pass the ball that lead to a shooting foul and that player make his first ft then the man who gave the pass get the assist

CavaliersFTW
12-16-2015, 03:01 PM
Anyone?

ClipperRevival
12-16-2015, 03:25 PM
Say two players go up for a rebound and grab it at the same time and it turns into a jumpball...

Who gets the rebound stat? Is it the player who wins the jump ball tap? Is it a totally different player who got the ball tapped to them on the tap? Or does nobody get the rebound?

No one should be awarded the rebound.

CavaliersFTW
12-16-2015, 03:27 PM
No one should be awarded the rebound.
Okay thank you, that's what I suspected

inclinerator
12-16-2015, 03:27 PM
answer is jumpball tip

feyki
12-16-2015, 03:27 PM
Team rebounds in Fiba rules . Who got jump ball in nba rules .

CavaliersFTW
12-16-2015, 03:29 PM
Team rebounds in Fiba rules . Who got jump ball in nba rules .
So like, if Blake Griffin gets tied up with KG on a rebound and they jump ball, and KG tips it but Chris Paul or Ricky Rubio catches it - Chris Paul or Ricky Rubio would be awarded the rebound? Or do you mean whoever between Blake/KG appeared to control the tap?

feyki
12-16-2015, 03:42 PM
So like, if Blake Griffin gets tied up with KG on a rebound and they jump ball, and KG tips it but Chris Paul or Ricky Rubio catches it - Chris Paul or Ricky Rubio would be awarded the rebound? Or do you mean whoever between Blake/KG appeared to control the tap?

Technically , you are right on doubt . But rules are clear , tips means rebound . If any player tips the ball in offensive rebound position and ball goes to opponent , that is offensive rebound .

ISHGoat
12-16-2015, 03:46 PM
It goes like this:

- If the team that had possession of the ball wins the jumpballtip, absolutely nothing gets recorded.
- If the team without the ball controls the jumpballtip, the guy that had the ball when it was tied up gets a turnover and the other team gets a team rebound.
- Jumpballtip on a rebound is a team rebound.

Edit:
There is a correction I should make. On a tie-up, if the defensive team wins the jumpballtip then a steal is credited, not a rebound.

CavaliersFTW
12-16-2015, 03:47 PM
Technically , you are right on doubt . But rules are clear , tips means rebound . If any player tips the ball in offensive rebound position and ball goes to opponent , that is offensive rebound .
So if KG won the jump ball tap but Chris Paul ended up with it, KG still gets credited with the rebound? Blake gets nothing, CP3 gets nothing? Interesting.

CavaliersFTW
12-16-2015, 03:49 PM
It goes like this:

- If the team that had possession of the ball wins the jumpballtip, absolutely nothing gets recorded.
- If the team without the ball controls the jumpballtip, the guy that had the ball when it was tied up gets a turnover and the other team gets a team rebound.
This differs from what feyki is saying

damnit now I don't know which to believe

feyki
12-16-2015, 03:57 PM
It goes like this:

- If the team that had possession of the ball wins the jumpballtip, absolutely nothing gets recorded.
- If the team without the ball controls the jumpballtip, the guy that had the ball when it was tied up gets a turnover and the other team gets a team rebound.
- Jumpballtip on a rebound is a team rebound.

But who had the possesion in rebound position ?



So if KG won the jump ball tap but Chris Paul ended up with it, KG still gets credited with the rebound? Blake gets nothing, CP3 gets nothing? Interesting.

I just know that tip means rebound. Cp3 could gets steal record , i am not sure .

oarabbus
12-16-2015, 03:59 PM
I got a better one: A pass that leads to a shooting foul. Should it be scored. I always felt many players got robbed of highlight assists or plays when the receiver would get fouled.

I think it should be a separate stat, and definitely kept track of.


this year in euroleague when someone pass the ball that lead to a shooting foul and that player make his first ft then the man who gave the pass get the assist


Dunno how I feel about this because there isn't a guarantee the player would have made the shot

DrakeTheSnake
12-16-2015, 04:28 PM
So like, if Blake Griffin gets tied up with KG on a rebound and they jump ball, and KG tips it but Chris Paul or Ricky Rubio catches it - Chris Paul or Ricky Rubio would be awarded the rebound? Or do you mean whoever between Blake/KG appeared to control the tap?
Why would this be a thing?

DrakeTheSnake
12-16-2015, 04:30 PM
Dunno how I feel about this because there isn't a guarantee the player would have made the shot
However, If they make the free throw, there is a guarantee that your pass led to a score. Should be if they make either free throw though, kind of like how you don't get extra assist stats on 3s than 2s.

sd3035
12-16-2015, 04:34 PM
I assume the rebound goes to whichever guy has his team win the tip

If a guy gets tied up dribbling, he's credited with a turnover if his team loses the tip, and the guy who tied him up gets a steal

AirFederer
12-16-2015, 06:04 PM
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La Frescobaldi
12-16-2015, 07:04 PM
hi cavs

from one of the nba.com webpages i found this one..........

http://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/team-rebound-no-individual-rebound-credited-as-foul-is-called/


An individual rebound is credited each time a player retrieves a live ball or purposely taps a live ball to a teammate immediately followed a missed field goal attempt or a missed free throw attempt. No individual rebound is credited in situations where the whistle stops play before there is player possession following a shot attempt. Instead only a team rebound is credited to the team that gains possession following a stop in play. On this play, a team rebound is credited to the white team since a loose ball foul was called on the green team. #13 in white is not credited with a rebound as a result of the prior foul call.

so the way i figure it, there's a whistle for the jump ball right? dead ball rules apply for the rebound so neither guy gets that reb... because neither team has possession which is the whole point of the jump ball... and then the tip winner gets a team rebound for his efforts

CavaliersFTW
12-16-2015, 07:13 PM
hi cavs

from one of the nba.com webpages i found this one..........

http://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/team-rebound-no-individual-rebound-credited-as-foul-is-called/


An individual rebound is credited each time a player retrieves a live ball or purposely taps a live ball to a teammate immediately followed a missed field goal attempt or a missed free throw attempt. No individual rebound is credited in situations where the whistle stops play before there is player possession following a shot attempt. Instead only a team rebound is credited to the team that gains possession following a stop in play. On this play, a team rebound is credited to the white team since a loose ball foul was called on the green team. #13 in white is not credited with a rebound as a result of the prior foul call.

so the way i figure it, there's a whistle for the jump ball right? dead ball rules apply for the rebound so neither guy gets that reb... because neither team has possession which is the whole point of the jump ball... and then the tip winner gets a team rebound for his efforts
Excellent, that makes it crystal clear thank you :cheers:

La Frescobaldi
12-16-2015, 07:34 PM
Excellent, that makes it crystal clear thank you :cheers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj5YF9v_qcM

lol

La Frescobaldi
12-16-2015, 08:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj5YF9v_qcM

lol

sry but i had to throw that in there............. who gets the freaking rebound when it went in the hoop!!!!?????????
dang rodman lol

72-10
12-16-2015, 08:28 PM
maybe you should consult the official play-by-play

which is available for free to anyone with internet