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UK2K
12-16-2015, 10:57 AM
[QUOTE][B]An intelligence community review has re-affirmed that two classified emails were indeed

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 11:05 AM
Welp, Hillary caught lying. Again. What a great representation of the American people. Amazingly, now that it's been confirmed she broke the law for a fourth time (an earlier email was deemed classified when she received it on her unsecured server, and she violated federal law when she copied her emails to a flash drive, and gave them to her lawyer).

Imagine if this was Bush, or Trump. Holy shit the world would end. But Hillary, she can do what she wants. And you nasty ass Democrats support her.

****ing gross.

You're still a loooooooong way from that buddy.

HitandRun Reggie
12-16-2015, 12:26 PM
Yeah it's concerning and she should apologize but am I the only right leaning person who doesn't really give a shyt about this anymore?

GIF REACTION
12-16-2015, 12:29 PM
She's not electable. Too many lies. Too many scandals.

UK2K
12-16-2015, 12:41 PM
Yeah it's concerning and she should apologize but am I the only right leaning person who doesn't really give a shyt about this anymore?
I wouldn't really...

But she tried to lie about it and play dumb. Even mocking reporters for asking (turns out) very relevant questions.

I'm just shocked ANYBODY has a reason to vote for her other than fem-nazis. I haven't met anyone in real life who has ever had anything positive to say about her.

UK2K
12-16-2015, 12:43 PM
You're still a loooooooong way from that buddy.
Housing classified documents on unsecured servers is against federal law.

Did she do that? Yes or no?

For reference, the state department now admits she did...so choose your answer wisely.

Now will she ever be charged? You may have something if you think she won't be charged, but she broke the law. It's not debatable at this point. And then lied about it.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 12:50 PM
Yeah it's concerning and she should apologize but am I the only right leaning person who doesn't really give a shyt about this anymore?

If she hid information to cover up the slaughter of Americans at our embassy, everyone should care. She should be in prison if that ends up being the case, becoming president after doing something like that is unthinkable.

Dresta
12-16-2015, 12:52 PM
This woman should be in prison.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 12:52 PM
If she hid information to cover up the slaughter of Americans at our embassy, everyone should care. She should be in prison if that ends up being the case, becoming president after doing something like that is unthinkable.
No one's even come close to such an allegation.

Also did you care about the "slaughter" that happened during previous embassy attacks?

MMKM
12-16-2015, 12:59 PM
This woman should be in prison.
:cheers:

NumberSix
12-16-2015, 12:59 PM
Welp, Hillary caught lying. Again. What a great representation of the American people. Amazingly, now that it's been confirmed she broke the law for a fourth time (an earlier email was deemed classified when she received it on her unsecured server, and she violated federal law when she copied her emails to a flash drive, and gave them to her lawyer).

Imagine if this was Bush, or Trump. Holy shit the world would end. But Hillary, she can do what she wants. And you nasty ass Democrats support her.

****ing gross.
Doesn't matter. The entire media will pretend it never happened.

Patrick Chewing
12-16-2015, 01:10 PM
Kevin has to be a relative of the Clintons. He HAS to be.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 01:14 PM
There's another area where journalists ought to be pressing Clinton for answers. On Dec. 3 a New Hampshire voter -- not a journalist -- asked her, "You say that all rape victims should be believed. But would you say that Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones be believed as well?" All three in the 1990s accused Bill Clinton of acts that constitute sexual assault or harassment.

"Well," replied Hillary Clinton, "I would say that everyone should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence."


Interesting belief system. Guilty until proven innocent. Good thing our judicial system doesn't work that way or she would be in jail herself. Irony. :applause:

I think that demonstrates Hillary's double standard for the rule of law. If a Muslim commits a crime, it's innocent until proven guilty. If a woman accuses a man of rape, it's guilty until proven innocent. A PC legal system, that's a new one even by liberal standards

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 01:26 PM
Kevin has to be a relative of the Clintons. He HAS to be.
Seriously. I think 2007 was probably the worst Christmas I ever had when I had to explain to them I was voting for Obama.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 01:32 PM
Seriously. I think 2007 was probably the worst Christmas I ever had when I had to explain to them I was voting for Obama.

I would have guessed 2011 when you had to explain why you were voting for him again.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 01:33 PM
I would have guessed 2011 when you had to explain why you were voting for him again. Oh, yes, how could I forget the Hillary Clinton campaign of 2011.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 01:37 PM
Oh, yes, how could I forget the Hillary Clinton campaign of 2011.

Obama 2011? Dude are u smoking the drugs right now?

senelcoolidge
12-16-2015, 01:42 PM
She's not qualified to run for President. Who would vote for this criminal?

MMKM
12-16-2015, 01:44 PM
She's not qualified to run for President. Who would vote for this criminal?

Hey she's innocent until proven guilty, unless she's a man accused of rape or a hate crime. Then she's f&cked.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 01:54 PM
Obama 2011? Dude are u smoking the drugs right now?
I'm going to spell this out slowly.

Hillary Clinton in 2007 was a presidential candidate and her main competition was Barack Obama.

In 2011, Hillary Clinton was not a presidential candidate. She was Secretary of State in President Obama's administration. It would not have been difficult to tell her I was voting for Obama. Her husband would go on to give a celebrated speech urging people to do exactly that.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 01:54 PM
She's not qualified to run for President. Who would vote for this criminal?

Both parts are funny, but this part is funnier: She's not qualified to run for President.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 01:58 PM
speaking of classified info (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/263443-burr-investigating-if-cruz-discussed-classified-information-during-debate)
GOP chair probes if Cruz unveiled classified info during debate

A key Senate Republican is looking into whether Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) discussed classified information during Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate.

I'm having my staff look at the transcripts of the debate right now," Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, told reporters. "Any time you deal with numbers ... the question is, 'Is that classified or not?'

Rubio caught this (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-classified-info-debate) in real time
Rubio noted that he did not want to say too much about the program.

"Let me be very careful when answering this, because I don’t think national television in front of 15 million people is the place to discuss classified information," Rubio said.

UK2K
12-16-2015, 01:59 PM
speaking of classified info (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/263443-burr-investigating-if-cruz-discussed-classified-information-during-debate)
So....

What did he reveal exactly? Or are you not going to tell us to build up suspense.

Nvm, I found it...


Becca Glover Watkins, Burr's communications director, suggested on social media that Cruz might have said something he shouldn't have, though she didn't specifically reference his comments.

Is this it? :lol :lol :lol :lol

when he said that the old program covered "20 or 30 percent of phone numbers" while the new program covers roughly 100 percent.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 02:00 PM
I'm going to spell this out slowly.

Hillary Clinton in 2007 was a presidential candidate and her main competition was Barack Obama.

In 2011, Hillary Clinton was not a presidential candidate. She was Secretary of State in President Obama's administration. It would not have been difficult to tell her I was voting for Obama. Her husband would go on to give a celebrated speech urging people to do exactly that.

You never explained any of that. You just said it was hard to tell your fam you were voting Obama. I assumed because they were all republicans not that they were voting Hillary. You didn't say it was the primaries, you provided no context :facepalm

falc39
12-16-2015, 02:02 PM
She's not qualified to run for President. Who would vote for this criminal?

Agreed.

hillary-clinton-denounces-corporate-crime-while-accepting-cash-blackstone-firm (http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-denounces-corporate-crime-while-accepting-cash-blackstone-firm)

Shameless.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 02:05 PM
Both parts are funny, but this part is funnier: She's not qualified to run for President.

So what do you say about her PC double standard of how the law is applied to different groups of people? You can refer to the quote I posted. Why are some groups innocent until proven guilty but others are guilty until proven innocent? Right out of the horses mouth. Is that American?

UK2K
12-16-2015, 02:10 PM
Agreed.

hillary-clinton-denounces-corporate-crime-while-accepting-cash-blackstone-firm (http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-denounces-corporate-crime-while-accepting-cash-blackstone-firm)

Shameless.

It goes on and on...

http://www.people.com/article/hillary-clinton-ethics-investigation-son-in-law-marc-mezvinksy-favor


This time, the Democratic presidential front-runner is accused of giving special government access to an investor in a deep-sea mining company due to his ties to Clinton's son-in-law, hedge fund manager Marc Mezvinsky.

The group, the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust (FACT), filed a complaint with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics on Monday, alleging that Clinton "gave a private company special access to the State Department based upon the company's relationships with Secretary Clinton's family members and donors to the Clinton Foundation."

The complaint, first obtained by TIME, comes two weeks after one of Clinton's court-ordered email releases showed that she asked a senior State Department official to follow up on a special request from Mezvinsky, the husband of her daughter, Chelsea Clinton.

Velocirap31
12-16-2015, 02:10 PM
So she used an unsecured personal email account for her duties as Secretary of State? She deserves to go to jail for that?

Patrick Chewing
12-16-2015, 02:16 PM
Kevin's upset they never hooked him up with Chelsea.



So he betrayed them and voted for a guy named Barack Hussein Obama.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 02:18 PM
Kevin's upset they never hooked him up with Chelsea.



So he betrayed them and voted for a guy named Barack Hussein Obama.

Now it's a party :lol

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 02:18 PM
You never explained any of that. You just said it was hard to tell your fam you were voting Obama. I assumed because they were all republicans not that they were voting Hillary. You didn't say it was the primaries, you provided no context :facepalm
If you read up the thread, you can see that I'm related to the Clintons.





.......at least according to Chewing.

stalkerforlife
12-16-2015, 02:19 PM
Who cares. Damn.

She's the best candidate for the job.

Slick Willy knows how to run a country.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 02:21 PM
So she used an unsecured personal email account for her duties as Secretary of State? She deserves to go to jail for that?

As an average Joe I can tell you I've had several jobs that require a secure email provided by my employer. Even I'm smart enough to not conduct business on my personal email because it could get me fired. So either

A) she's incompetent or
B) she was trying to keep things off the record

Either way she doesn't make the cut for president. Not simply for that but because her ideology is hypocritical and a total double standard. If she wins I'm moving to Ireland for real

UK2K
12-16-2015, 02:23 PM
So she used an unsecured personal email account for her duties as Secretary of State? She deserves to go to jail for that?

Considering China and Russia have more or less openly admitted to hacking government information systems, do you believe it's wise to house documents classified as 'Top-Secret' on an unsecured server? Especially when you know you shouldn't? And then lie about it?

Particularity when one of the e-mails was about missile movements in North Korea...

Patrick Chewing
12-16-2015, 02:23 PM
Or maybe Kevin was after Huma and he lost out to a Wiener. I bet Kevin is somewhere in those emails in some precarious situations.

Maybe he was Bill's supplier, and Hillary blamed him all these years. That's why he betrayed her. But since she's back, Kevin misses all the Christmas dinners and pool parties at the Clinton's. He's seeking forgiveness and redemption and is willing to sell out the entire country, including myself, by voting for that dried up hag.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 02:30 PM
Or maybe Kevin was after Huma and he lost out to a Wiener. I bet Kevin is somewhere in those emails in some precarious situations.

Maybe he was Bill's supplier, and Hillary blamed him all these years. That's why he betrayed her. But since she's back, Kevin misses all the Christmas dinners and pool parties at the Clinton's. He's seeking forgiveness and redemption and is willing to sell out the entire country, including myself, by voting for that dried up hag.
Do you know the card game Oh Hell (http://www.pagat.com/exact/ohhell.html)?

I beat Bill at it a few too many times one afternoon and apparently he was sulky the whole rest of the weekend and I got blamed for it.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 02:30 PM
Who cares. Damn.

She's the best candidate for the job.

Slick Willy knows how to run a country.
:biggums:

Well that settles it then.
Maybe she will go on SNL and play a saxophone while all the terrorists are cutting Americans heads off. Can't wait.

Velocirap31
12-16-2015, 02:36 PM
As an average Joe I can tell you I've had several jobs that require a secure email provided by my employer. Even I'm smart enough to not conduct business on my personal email because it could get me fired. So either

A) she's incompetent or
B) she was trying to keep things off the record

Either way she doesn't make the cut for president. Not simply for that but because her ideology is hypocritical and a total double standard. If she wins I'm moving to Ireland for real

Sounds like she made a dumb choice then, but not an illegal one. Republican pumpers like Fox News will spin this into whatever they want though. Maybe she is a spy for the muslims like Obama?

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 02:39 PM
And then lie about it?You're still a looooooong way from this too

You're jumping the gun here.

There's lot of times in her emails, where she or her aids will say, we need have a secure phone call or send a secure email. In that case they have to switch systems. So they clearly aware of that protocol. So what the the possibilities when they are not using that protocol?

I can think of three.

NumberSix
12-16-2015, 02:40 PM
Sounds like she made a dumb choice then, but not an illegal one. Republican pumpers like Fox News will spin this into whatever they want though. Maybe she is a spy for the muslims like Obama?
Explain a scenario in which it wouldn't be illegal.

Dresta
12-16-2015, 02:43 PM
So....

What did he reveal exactly? Or are you not going to tell us to build up suspense.

Nvm, I found it...



Is this it? :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh shit: the evil Ted Cruz illegally telling us that the government is trying to spy on everybody. How terrible!

UK2K
12-16-2015, 02:51 PM
You're still a looooooong way from this too

You're jumping the gun here.

There's lot of times in her emails, where she or her aids will say, we need have a secure phone call or send a secure email. In that case they have to switch systems. So they clearly aware of that protocol. So what the the possibilities when they are not using that protocol?

I can think of three.

Kevin.... god damnit... she obviously knows the protocols. She said so herself. But you keep ignoring:


Clinton once again responded that she never received nor sent any emails with information marked “classified” and said she would let the Department of Justice carry on with its investigation.
That, right there, is a big ****ing lie.

Are you retarded or what?

Velocirap31
12-16-2015, 02:53 PM
Explain a scenario in which it wouldn't be illegal.

Explain how it is illegal.

UK2K
12-16-2015, 02:53 PM
Sounds like she made a dumb choice then, but not an illegal one. Republican pumpers like Fox News will spin this into whatever they want though. Maybe she is a spy for the muslims like Obama?

So you're cool with the Secretary of State using an ISH email account to conduct classified government business? So Obama can send highly classified emails about missile movements in North Korea using his yahoo account? And you don't see the problem with that?

K. Now, I am convinced you're a troll account. :lol

Velocirap31
12-16-2015, 02:56 PM
So you're cool with the Secretary of State using an ISH email account to conduct classified government business? So Obama can send highly classified emails about missile movements in North Korea using his yahoo account? And you don't see the problem with that?

K. Now, I am convinced you're a troll account. :lol

There is a difference between doing something dumb and doing something illegal. I don't know why you guys don't understand the difference. If you think she made such a terrible choice using an unsecured email client, then don't vote for her, that is your right. Thinking she should go to jail for it though? That doesn't make any sense.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 02:57 PM
Sounds like she made a dumb choice then, but not an illegal one. This review didn't start as a criminal review. The Anonymous folks (most likely from the Benghazi commitee) who leaked news about this to the NY Times portrayed it that way, but that was false. It was confirmed later to be a security review, which is standard procedure when releasing documents to the public during Freedom of Information Act releases.

That is what started the Clinton's going to Jail! idea.

The FBI does security reviews. If they discover something that could be a crime, they would make a recommendation to a DOJ prosecutor. That hasn't happened. There's speculation that the FBI review has moved to a fuller investigation, but the FBI hasn't commented either way which is standard. The leaks are probably coming from Congress

There could be a bunch of issues raised that fall below the level of criminality.

UK2K
12-16-2015, 02:58 PM
There is a difference between doing something dumb and doing something illegal. I don't know why you guys don't understand the difference. If you think she made such a terrible choice using an unsecured email client, then don't vote for her, that is your right. Thinking she should go to jail for it though? That doesn't make any sense.

Ok... let's try this.

You know what she did was illegal, correct? She broke the law, no two ways about it. You realize that much, yes?

Velocirap31
12-16-2015, 03:08 PM
This review didn't start as a criminal review. The Anonymous folks (most likely from the Benghazi commitee) who leaked news about this to the NY Times portrayed it that way, but that was false. It was confirmed later to be a security review, which is standard procedure when releasing documents to the public during Freedom of Information Act releases.

That is what started the Clinton's going to Jail! idea.

The FBI does security reviews. If they discover something that could be a crime, they would make a recommendation to a DOJ prosecutor. That hasn't happened. There's speculation that the FBI review has moved to a fuller investigation, but the FBI hasn't commented either way which is standard. The leaks are probably coming from Congress

There could be a bunch of issues raised that fall below the level of criminality.

Thank you for the proper explanation. I can leave now in peace. :cheers:

So the legality aspect would involve whether she knowingly or unknowingly compromised classified information, which would be prosecutable. The extreme end being someone like Snowden who intentionally leaked classified information.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 03:11 PM
Feel free to disagree but I think there should be a basic civic test in order to vote. A lot of voters are so uninformed they might as well be blindfolded and throw a dart at the f&cking thing. But Dems would never have that because it would erase their crackhead speak no English bring them in on a bus constituents.

Draz
12-16-2015, 03:14 PM
What kind of emails were they again?

Velocirap31
12-16-2015, 03:17 PM
Feel free to disagree but I think there should be a basic civic test in order to vote. A lot of voters are so uninformed they might as well be blindfolded and throw a dart at the f&cking thing. But Dems would never have that because it would erase their crackhead speak no English bring them in on a bus constituents.

This question would eliminate half of the republican voters I bet.

Question 1: How old is the earth?

a) Billions of years old
b) Millions of years old
c) Thousands of years old

MMKM
12-16-2015, 03:32 PM
Republicans would approve an amendment to require a test in a heartbeat. Democrats would fight it to the death. Is the majority of the "give me my free sh!t" population republican? Because they'd be the ones who fail the test

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 03:55 PM
[QUOTE=UK2K]Kevin.... god damnit... she obviously knows the protocols. She said so herself. But you keep ignoring:

[QUOTE]Clinton once again responded that she never received nor sent any emails with information marked

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 03:57 PM
So the legality aspect would involve whether she knowingly or unknowingly compromised classified information, which would be prosecutable.

Yeah, you grasped this quite quickly. Others not so much.

Also depending on the offense, there can be non-criminal procedures like loss of security clearance.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 03:58 PM
You know what she did was illegal, correct? She broke the law, no two ways about it.

Simply not true.

You're assuming facts and conclusions that are not in evidence.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 04:05 PM
If you think she made such a terrible choice using an unsecured email client, then don't vote for her, that is your right.
What kind of emails were they again?

Velo, her using a personal server is a separate issue from the not secure system.

Even if she was using her state.gov address, there are somethings that can not be discussed on state.gov. The standard work email system at State is not the secure one. Classified information can only be discussed through a separate system called SIPRNet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPRNet)


Draz, every state department employee has a regular work email account and a secure email account. So in this case, the issue is whether classified info was misused by putting on the non secure system.

In addition, at the time the state department allowed you use to use a personal account for work emails as long as you preserved them. Clinton went further and instead using hclinton@state.gov as her regular email, she set up a personal email domain with the server located in her house in NY state. So her email was HRC22@clintonemail.com. She used this for work and personal email. Bill and Chelsea had accounts on this system as well as some of her aides at the State Department. This could raise other issues, like Freedom of Information requests and the fact the State Department didn't seems to be archiving email very well.

Again the personal email domain is separate from proper handling of classified info which wouldn't be allowed on the state.gov email system anyway.

UK2K
12-16-2015, 04:06 PM
UK, you misunderstand this point again and again. She said she never sent anything MARKED classified. You have no evidence that is not true.

The emails in question are not marked classified intelligence reports. They are emails that may contain "intelligence" that appears in marked classified intelligence reports, that is someone may be paraphrasing or passing along information. In a lot of these cases the State Department is claiming that the "intelligence" doesn't derive from classified sources. The State Department gathers a lot of information from open sources....foreign newspapers for example.

If the email says, "We know that North Korea is moving their missiles south." It would not be a violation of protocol simply because the NSA or DIA or Geospatial Intelligence has a report of movement of North Korean missiles.

You have to prove that the SENDER of the email is passing along information from that spefic NSA or DIA or NGA report and NOT from a non-classified source. Later on, in a FOIA document release, the NSA or DIA or NGA might still request the info not be released, EVEN IF THE INITIAL EMAIL is not in violation.

The RECEIVER of the email will not be considered to be in violation UNLESS they should have known the information can only come from a classified source. I believe their responsibility would be to report a misuse. From earlier emails that were made public the two emails that raised the most questions were SENT to Clinton.

Given that in some cases, the emails passed through the non secure systems of something like 3 dozen State employees, I think that the possibility the info was not marked classified in the State Department is pretty near 100%.

We don't have enough information to say if today's leak moved the story along any further than it was months ago. It seems today's leak is targeted at this politico story (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-email-no-highly-classified-215599) which at the time it came out, I said it sounds like a pro-Clinton leak.

I stopped right there.... Because I want to make sure you understand what lying is...


“I’m confident that this process will prove that I never sent nor received any e-mail that was marked classified.”


Whether it was a personal account or a government account, I did not send classified material and I did not receive any material that was marked or designated classified, which is the way you know whether something is.”


“I did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. There is no classified material. I’m certainly well-aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.”

Kevin, you agree, she said those things? Those are direct quotes.

Now, you are going to tell me she didn't lie about SENDING OR RECEIVING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL?

Cause.... I think for those emails, designated TOP SECRET, to end up in her account, she either sent, or received them, right? Or are you going to try and deny that too.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 04:36 PM
I stopped right there.... Because I want to make sure you understand what lying is...







Kevin, you agree, she said those things? Those are direct quotes.

Now, you are going to tell me she didn't lie about SENDING OR RECEIVING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL?

Cause.... I think for those emails, designated TOP SECRET, to end up in her account, she either sent, or received them, right? Or are you going to try and deny that too.

Oh snahap :applause:

DrakeTheSnake
12-16-2015, 04:38 PM
I wouldn't really...

But she tried to lie about it and play dumb. Even mocking reporters for asking (turns out) very relevant questions.

I'm just shocked ANYBODY has a reason to vote for her other than fem-nazis. I haven't met anyone in real life who has ever had anything positive to say about her.
How is this any different from what the conservatives are doing? Trump lying about 1000s of Muslims in NJ celebrating 9/11. Carson lying about a belt buckle stopping him from stabbing somebody (lol).

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 04:57 PM
I stopped right there.... Because I want to make sure you understand what lying is...

You do understand that lying is KNOWINGLY not telling the truth right? And you still seem to not understand the point she is making about markings.

Go back and put your dates in the sequence she said them. Then look at what she knew.

So did she keep saying the same thing? Or did it change based on what she knew?

UK2K
12-16-2015, 05:04 PM
You do understand that lying is KNOWINGLY not telling the truth right?

Go back and put your dates in the sequence she said them. Then look at what she knew.

So did she keep saying the same thing? Or did it change based on what she knew?

She knew she had received classified emails.

Are you aware the Secretary of State sends and receives classified material? Ok then, so is she.

So since all of her emails were routed to her unsecured server....

Or do you think she's that stupid?


In a rare national TV interview with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell, Clinton said her position of working with national security matters made her “so careful” with classified information.

“As has been confirmed repeatedly by the inspectors general, over and over, I did not send or receive any material marked classified,” Clinton said. “We dealt with classified material on a totally different system,” including in person and on secure phone lines.

From the leftist rag that is HuffPo, this was three months ago. So she was denying it as recently as three months ago.

Keep making up excuses though. Why is it so hard to just say, 'yeah she ****ed up'?

Patrick Chewing
12-16-2015, 05:06 PM
Velo, her using a personal server is a separate issue from the not secure system.

Even if she was using her state.gov address, there are somethings that can not be discussed on state.gov. The standard work email system at State is not the secure one. Classified information can only be discussed through a separate system called SIPRNet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPRNet)


Draz, every state department employee has a regular work email account and a secure email account. So in this case, the issue is whether classified info was misused by putting on the non secure system.

In addition, at the time the state department allowed you use to use a personal account for work emails as long as you preserved them. Clinton went further and instead using hclinton@state.gov as her regular email, she set up a personal email domain with the server located in her house in NY state. So her email was HRC22@clintonemail.com. She used this for work and personal email. Bill and Chelsea had accounts on this system as well as some of her aides at the State Department. This could raise other issues, like Freedom of Information requests and the fact the State Department didn't seems to be archiving email very well.

Again the personal email domain is separate from proper handling of classified info which wouldn't be allowed on the state.gov email system anyway.

You see, only a Clinton insider would have this much knowledge about her and the process.

UK2K
12-16-2015, 05:06 PM
How is this any different from what the conservatives are doing? Trump lying about 1000s of Muslims in NJ celebrating 9/11. Carson lying about a belt buckle stopping him from stabbing somebody (lol).

Cause she violated federal law? For starters....

KyrieTheFuture
12-16-2015, 05:15 PM
At least she didn't reveal classified information in the middle of a televised debate.

MMKM
12-16-2015, 05:40 PM
You know what's cool about this election? That the Dems have the lame ass this year and they can't handle it. It's been 2 terms of the cool hip pop culture celebrity president, and now they're left with this old frigid b!tch who has no personality, no charisma, and they are stuck with her. I love it

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 05:43 PM
She knew she had received classified emails.

Are you aware the Secretary of State sends and receives classified material? Ok then, so is she.

So since all of her emails were routed to her unsecured server....

Or do you think she's that stupid?UK, this post proves you fundamentally and totally misunderstand what this controversy is about.

Do you know what SIPRnet is and it's used by DOD and the State Department? It's a completely separate system. Those emails WERE NOT going to her @clintonemail.com address . It would be a completely separate email address she used. If you don't understand that fact, you're missing a giant chunk of what is going on here.

Futhermore, her campaign said (https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/) it was her practice to not to use email to view classified information, but to view it hard copy.

How did Clinton receive and consume classified information?

The Secretary's office was located in a secure area. Classified information was viewed in hard copy by Clinton while in the office. While on travel, the State Department had rigorous protocols for her and traveling staff to receive and transmit information of all types.

A separate, closed email system was used by the State Department for the purpose of handling classified communications, which was designed to prevent such information from being transmitted anywhere other than within that system.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 05:46 PM
Let me put this another way, when you're asking how your aide how to find the channel for Showtime in DC, you don't need to be on SIPRNet

http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/565cfd3484307626008b64ff-960/screen%20shot%202015-11-30%20at%208.50.13%20pm.png

longtime lurker
12-16-2015, 05:58 PM
No one gives a shit about her servers. Nothing Republicans can do to her will make any of those clowns in the party electable.

Jameerthefear
12-16-2015, 06:51 PM
KevinNYC is such a ****ing moron. I just wish for one minutes I could have an enclosed room with this loser so I can bash his ****ing head in.

KevinNYC
12-16-2015, 07:46 PM
Literally don't talk to me unless you're eating my ***** and taking a break to ask me if I want another meatball

ROCSteady
12-16-2015, 07:57 PM
What if Hilary and them was Reptilian?

And [2016] was the end of men and all world civilians?

-Nasir Jones

UK2K
01-19-2016, 02:28 PM
No one gives a shit about her servers. Nothing Republicans can do to her will make any of those clowns in the party electable.
What's shocking to me is that YOU don't give a shit about what was on her servers.

From today...

[QUOTE]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html

EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.

Fox News exclusively obtained the text of the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).

[B]That indicates a level of classification beyond even

UK2K
01-19-2016, 02:30 PM
UK, this post proves you fundamentally and totally misunderstand what this controversy is about.

Do you know what SIPRnet is and it's used by DOD and the State Department? It's a completely separate system. Those emails WERE NOT going to her @clintonemail.com address . It would be a completely separate email address she used. If you don't understand that fact, you're missing a giant chunk of what is going on here.

Futhermore, her campaign said (https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/) it was her practice to not to use email to view classified information, but to view it hard copy.

Have you used it before?

Cause I have. Used it daily.

Tell me more about it.

If classified information wasn't sent to her private, unsecured email account, then how did 1,300 classified emails get on there? Magic?


However, one email thread from June 2011 appears to include Clinton telling her top adviser Jake Sullivan to send secure information through insecure means.

In response to Clinton's request for a set of since-redacted talking points, Sullivan writes, "They say they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it." Clinton responds "If they can't, turn into nonpaper [with] no identifying heading and send nonsecure."

Yeah, her campaign said..... what exactly?