Wish a Muslim a very Merry Christmas....

[9erempiree]

I urge all of us to unite and if we see a Muslim....just take the time to wish them a Merry Christmas.

:rockon:


Merry Christmas ISH!

[Nick Young]

Muslims like Jesus too, so I don't think they hate Christmas that much.


The hardcore Muslims might not like it because it is a holiday glorifying a "lesser" prophet who isn't Mohammad, but most Muslims will be down for the good will and holiday cheer.


Nice thread. More X-Mas for everyone will make the world a better place.

[hateraid]

I wish all a Merry Christmas! The Muslims, the Jews, the PC crazies, the party poopers who keep referring to this as a Pagan holiday....
Jesus born on Christmas Day! Time to rejoices and be glad in it!

9er, you hate Asians? Merry Christmas to you! You will be in my prayers during midnight mass

[9erempiree]

I wish all a Merry Christmas! The Muslims, the Jews, the PC crazies, the party poopers who keep referring to this as a Pagan holiday....
Jesus born on Christmas Day! Time to rejoices and be glad in it!

9er, you hate Asians? Merry Christmas to you! You will be in my prayers during midnight mass

I don't hate Asians.

[hateraid]

I don't hate Asians.

My bad! I recall someone saying you hate Asians. I knew it wasn't true! The Christmas spirit lives! Merry Christmas 9er+

[pauk]

Muslims like Jesus too, so I don't think they hate Christmas that much.


The hardcore Muslims might not like it because it is a holiday glorifying a "lesser" prophet who isn't Mohammad, but most Muslims will be down for the good will and holiday cheer.


Nice thread. More X-Mas for everyone will make the world a better place.

There is no higher / lesser prophet in Islam, saying so / implying otherwise is pretty much "haram" as it goes against the Koran & even Mohammeds words themselves: "Do not give me preference to other prophets..."

Yeshuah ben Yosef (his real name) / Issah / Jesus pbuh is just as important to Islam as any Abrahamic prophet.


Anyways, Merry Christmas! I am Croatian/Bosnian born "muslim" (well i mean, secular kindof, not so super devout religiously), so i grew up kindof celebrating/appreciating/liking Christmas.... especially when my birthday is 24th december when Jesus was born, ended up with 2 x presents. :pimp:
Again, big difference between a native European muslim and say a middle-eastern one, in culture etc... kindof like comparing christians of an Armenian Village to an LA suburb.

[Nick Young]

Pretty sure Mohammad is the number one, breh. Many muslims would be pissed to hear you say Jesus is equal to Big Mo.

Is Lil Sidd aka BUDDHA a prophet in Islam? Where does Zoroaster rank?

[SugarHill]

Pretty sure Mohammad is the number one, breh. Many muslims would be pissed to hear you say Jesus is equal to Big Mo.

Is Lil Sidd aka BUDDHA a prophet in Islam? Where does Zoroaster rank?
why are you trying to educate a muslim on his own beliefs and beliefs of others from his religion that he interacts with everyday? :rolleyes:

[pauk]

Pretty sure Mohammad is the number one, breh. Many muslims would be pissed to hear you say Jesus is equal to Big Mo.

Is Lil Sidd aka BUDDHA a prophet in Islam? Where does Zoroaster rank?

I dare any muslim to say that and then call himself a muslim!

...and when some Muslims get pissed of at anti-Mohamed stuff (personally dont care, people are stupid, waste of time) they dont get pissed because its Mohamed, but because its anti-Islam agenda driven....
The thing is when people make anti-Islam opinions they never target Jesus or any other Abrahamic prophet (which is 100% of all & the same prophets in Christianity or Judaism, Abrahamic religions afterall), they target Mohammed, the only one as he is not part of the Bible (came latest afterall and who cares if he is Abrahams heir) and even if you did target Jesus to try denounce Islam is hence hard (because you will be denouncing your own religion afterall), you will then be needing to make sure its aimed against Islam / exposing your agenda.... you dont make Anti-Islamic comments targeting anybody else, that makes it then against your own religion afterall, that doesnt make sense right, so of course its Mohamed.... even here when you make your anti-islam threads you care more about with the agenda/intent to denounce it rather than genuinely sympathizing with the potential context of the story itself (innocent people getting killed, psychos going psycho etc.)..... I mean you dont make these ignorant comments when its your own religion right? Suddenly you are objective, rational, logical enough to see the difference between a true Christian and a god damn Psycho/Criminal, suddenly you dont blame the religion because of his acts, but you blame himself / his action themselves........

[tomtucker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C35diYdLZ64

2083 ?.......... nah, it will be much sooner.
and turn the volume way up.

[WayOfWade]

I would if I knew one; great people though, at least most of them are

[Akrazotile]

I honestly just don't understand why anyone would follow Islam.

Judaism has the tradition of the commandments from God to Moses on Mt. Sinai, and there's really no evidence to specifically dispute that, even if you don't believe it. With Christianity, Jesus himself didn't write down anything saying "follow me, I'm starting this religion." It was others who testified that he performed miracles and was a savior.

With Islam, it's well documented that this guy Mohammed basically was fascinated with Judaism and Christianity, and sat down and wrote his own bizarre extension to them, and included a whole bunch of passages instructing people to kill anyone that doesn't believe and accept his version of it.

It's not even a debate in the academic world. This guy was trying to "start a religion." Like L. Rob Hubbard did with Scientology. He just wrote down a bunch of stuff and said "believe my religion or die."

Why would you wanna be a part of that? Pretty silly IMO.

[tomtucker]

I honestly just don't understand why anyone would follow Islam.

Judaism has the tradition of the commandments from God to Moses on Mt. Sinai, and there's really no evidence to specifically dispute that, even if you don't believe it. With Christianity, Jesus himself didn't write down anything saying "follow me, I'm starting this religion." It was others who testified that he performed miracles and was a savior.

With Islam, it's well documented that this guy Mohammed basically was fascinated with Judaism and Christianity, and sat down and wrote his own bizarre extension to them, and included a whole bunch of passages instructing people to kill anyone that doesn't believe and accept his version of it.

It's not even a debate in the academic world. This guy was trying to "start a religion" like L. Rob Hubbard did with Scientology. He just wrote down a bunch of stuff and said "believe my religion or die."

Why would you wanna be a part of that? Pretty silly IMO.

when you are an inbreed with low IQ , you will wanna be a part of that

[pauk]

All i know is, we are Abrahams children, Jews, Christians, Muslims... complete tranquility will one day be gained brothers, dont worry, the hatefulness, wickedness, misconduct, sickness (especially the mental part) although still existing is still decreasing heavily (compared to history), one day hopefully completely vanquished. Do not listen to anybody/anything else straying you of the intelligent & perfectly bountiful life & path for the mind, body & soul. Thats what i fight for, humanity & earth. :cheers:

Now stop letting crap derail your mind for the holiday, merry christmas.

[Akrazotile]

All i know is, we are Abrahams children, Jews, Christians, Muslims... complete tranquility will one day be gained brothers, dont worry, the hatefulness, wickedness, misconduct, sickness (especially the mental part) although still existing is still decreasing heavily (compared to history), one day hopefully completely vanquished. Do not listen to anybody/anything else straying you of the intelligent & perfectly bountiful life & path for the mind, body & soul. Thats what i fight for, humanity & earth. :cheers:


But why does the Koran say you're supposed to kill everyone who doesn't believe you?

[pauk]

But why does the Koran say you're supposed to kill everyone who doesn't believe you?

Are you serious? :oldlol: wow... I think you read the wrong book version/interpretation (ISIS version probably).... we desperately need some "Islam for dummies" thread or something answering all these questions (there is websites for that, but i guess you dont wanna go there right?), hopefully with J-$ as the OP (he is very knowledgable), cant let especially my basketball/ISH brethrens running through life believing shit like that... causing you to not be surprised at all if guys like Hakeem Olajuwon would start going mayhem on the court (well, he did, but not that way lol)....

[Akrazotile]

Are you serious? :oldlol: wow... I think you read the wrong book version/interpretation (ISIS version probably).... we desperately need some "Islam for dummies" thread or something answering all these questions (there is websites for that, but i guess you dont wanna go there right?), hopefully with J-$ as the OP (he is very knowledgable), cant let especially my basketball/ISH brethrens running through life believing shit like that... causing you to not be surprised at all if guys like Hakeem Olajuwon would start going mayhem on the court (well, he did, but not that way lol)....


Okay, get J$ to defend it.

I'll get DonDadda to post all the passages of violence and jihad in the Koran. He loves pointing out all the inconsistencies and antiquated notions in the Bible so I'm sure he'll be equally willing to point out controversial passages in the Koran.

I'm sure of it.

[Akrazotile]

But anyway, Pauk, I'm just messing with ya. Even though I do think Islam is a pretty unappealing religion as far as I'm concerned. But I don't wanna beef with you personally about it.

Long live Lebron. :cheers: Dude is packing like NO OTHER.

[pauk]

But anyway, Pauk, I'm just messing with ya. Even though I do think Islam is a pretty unappealing religion as far as I'm concerned. But I don't wanna beef with you personally about it.

Long live Lebron. :cheers: Dude is packing like NO OTHER.

Dont worry, am not so religous, i cant prove there is a God, i cant disprove of it either, i want to believe there is one.. until then, i care only about humanity, earth, being the best man i can be, equality, ration, logic, treat others like i want to be treated etc (which is the main principle of christianity, islam, judaism anyways minus perhaps logic sometimes lol), its just my upbringing, just live my life... then when i die IF there is a god, i will let him be the judge and IF there is just "nothing" then i wouldnt have wasted my time with unnecessary ideology (religious people dont like the thought of that, me neither, but i am just open to that consequence).

The only problem i have with anti-Islam assumptions and anti-Christian ones (well, how many of the latter ones are there anyways? especially in this forum? especially by Muslims? None!) is because me/my family/where i come from (father is bosnian muslim, mother is croatian catholic), we are rather secular tho... i have witnessed christian-muslim harmony for many years (which ex. Yugoslavia had very long time, it was beautiful & it still continues today i think) & those two religions in practice of every day life (people, family) and it still exists today in Balkans (particularely in Monte-Negro / Bosnia), i have experienced it all in pratice..... so i am kindof impartial here, i will defend/correct the incorrect when i see it, its just stupid to generalize / blame an entire population / ideology / let ignorance flow through your soul affecting your comradry & judgement of those people around you (he can be your neighbour, your teacher, your favorite basketball player, your anything) due to the act of some others stupid individuals......

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

I honestly just don't understand why anyone would follow Islam.

Judaism has the tradition of the commandments from God to Moses on Mt. Sinai, and there's really no evidence to specifically dispute that, even if you don't believe it. With Christianity, Jesus himself didn't write down anything saying "follow me, I'm starting this religion." It was others who testified that he performed miracles and was a savior.

With Islam, it's well documented that this guy Mohammed basically was fascinated with Judaism and Christianity, and sat down and wrote his own bizarre extension to them, and included a whole bunch of passages instructing people to kill anyone that doesn't believe and accept his version of it.

It's not even a debate in the academic world. This guy was trying to "start a religion." Like L. Rob Hubbard did with Scientology. He just wrote down a bunch of stuff and said "believe my religion or die."

Why would you wanna be a part of that? Pretty silly IMO.

C.S.

Her'e's the sad part though. I've only kind of understood 2 big surahs of the Qu'ran and have a basic understanding of the 10-15 last ones. Out of 114. And zero hadiths. That's as far as personal credentials go, which is more than every single person on ISH.. combined (except Mr Feeny and imdaman99). That's really sad that ISH has made something their consensus enemy, when they have no one really to give a thorough rundown. Here's a shot though.


Thanks for your questions.
I won't even entertain the "academic" world point as you know damn well those guys are fools on the real world and also on spiritual life of their "enemies". Most of yoru post sloppy rhetoric based upon false premises. To be fair, you seeing the spread of it and coming to the idea that "BELIEVE OR DIE" and "Saracens are bloodthirsty freaks that yell high pitched screams" are consistent in their logic, so points on that.

It's like me summing up (when asked to form an opinion on Powerlifting).. Powerlifting is a rip off of bodybuilding with a buncha' deadlifts that break somebody's spine and so stoopid cuz everyone knows its the $$$ that counts to get the ladiez. When, there are clearly MORE exercises, precautions for safety, many advantages that go beyond the sport, as well as additional exercises in the routine, as well as being a path to overall strength, as well as building character, and getting ladiez is not even the objective.

Oh, and "There is no compulsion in religion."

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Likewise, Jannah is the objective, closeness to Allah (SWT) is the objective. . However, along that path one has to get rid of lies; and it's no surprise that someone who hates political correctness and the "lies of the left" would collide with a path that sought to destroy all false superstition and false idols of before that distracted people from fulfilling their true purpose in life; to come closer to God. Allah (SWT) makes these things happen and it's a blessing that the internet allows for such delightful informational exchange.

All of us, inadvertently, have a drive both to satisfy ourselves and to get closer/worship/submit/obey Allah Most High. Muslims forego the former and focus on the latter. Some by loving others, some by telling the truth, some by giving their craft, some by having lots of well behaved children, some by making the world a better place. It's clear your heart is motivated by two of the aforementioned.

Attractiveness of the Faith:

- It's Pure Monotheism and concept of Tawheed.
Laillahaillilah is one of the greatest utterings out of every human's mouth. There is no God but God. All I can tell you is that you can read it and taste a bit of what it means, but it takes lifetimes to really appreciate it.
An example is from observing the way nature is built it seems that there's a harmony about things from the manner in which DNA is conscripted, to the way rivers, mountains, oceans, the earth have cycles and order to them. This is the product of the Will of One God. Not so much "warring gods" as predecessors of Greece and Norse explained happenings. Also, at the time Arabs were infamous for worshipping things made of stone and material. Islam heavily emphasizes spirituality over material concerns, and states that there is an invisible All Powerful Eternal Being who created all this in the first place; why not direct your attention and ibadat to Him? This is of course a Belief that happened since the very beginning of time.

- Marital Bliss
Most women and men like to be in love and have babies. But if the conditions are off this can be quite a challenge. Islam encourages women to enjoy pleasing and serving and respecting their men and being selfless, while encouraging men to love and lead and listen and cherish women and honor mothers.. This is the natural sexual order. It also has strict laws on adultery and desexualizes a human while simultaneously glorifying a human's actions, intellect, and consciousness.


It's promise of understanding and clear Judgment
The world is a confusing place when you're at odds with yourself. Allah (SWT) has promised the Believers that they will understand what they did right and what they did wrong in the afterlife. Things will become clear as daylight. It's also understood that on the Last Day everything will be taken on to account for the final verdict in reaching Janah or Jahanam.

- It's STRONG Reliance on PROOFS and emphasis on improving the Intellect
Even back then the Qu'ran challenged the Arabs (who were masters at poets and great astronomers too) to try and come up with any stanzas that can match the Qu'ran in its meaning and beauty. Every ayat in each of the Surat of the Qu'ran rhymes rhythmically. The Qu'ran possesses stories that are true on MULTIPLE LEVELS (spiritual, physical, planetary, atomically) as well. It also discusses things you cannot see but know, in your heart, are there.

Each story of people killing disbelievers during war-time is a very powerful symbolic reminder of an INDIVIDUAL human being killing their inner demons and liberating themselves from this corrupt material world. Be it prevailing over fears, stopping lust, witholding wrath, shaking off a lie; stories in the Qu'ran are a beautiful reminder of man's spiritual journey from undisciplined beastial lustful violent gluttonous slothy animal to.. harmoniously wise selfless noble creative loving Angel-esque.

Oh and in the Qu'ran.
Please watch this documentary and read the sites (on behalf of YOUR personal intellectual honesty and education)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvWAO_y3TNM
http://www.nakcollection.com/quran-gems--miracles.html

Could an illiterate uneducated man have done this? Do you think 1.6 billion would have been fooled in thinking that something mortal was mistaken for something of the Divine?



- It's emphasis on destruction of falsehood, lies, false idols, unnecessary clergy
Islam wants there to be a strong relation between Creator-Creation. It does not want corrupt middlemen to ruin the process and glorify themselves. Imams and Ayatollahs and people of knowledge are commanded to be even MORE humble as they grow in learning and leadership.

- The Effort it demands much Spiritual Discipline upon its member.
Most people who legitimately undergo the 5X prayer Salat day in and day out notice that every single time their consciousness evolves a little bit more, a little bit more; to be wiser, to be away from sin, to be more humble, nearer to Allah (SWT). They are in more of a "flow". Judaism and Christianity are more lax. Their prayers are also composed off a purification phase (prior), a call (Adhan), a series of movements that actually refine raw energy into spiritual energy including standing, bowing (which actually releases energy from the kidneys making one a kinder human), and sajda (which discharges EMF forces of the forehead into the ground providing a clarity). After each prayer they turn their head to wish peace on all of Allah's creations, and do a tasbih which glorifies, praises, and exalts Allah.

They are also timed exactly before Dawn, at the Sun's Zenith, 2 hours before Sunset, Sunset, and Night, whenever. That's no coincidence. That's very akin to Spring, Indian Summer, Summer, Autumn, and cold Winter. It's also the exact time, according to Robert Bruce, that the astral wind carries a human's consciousness back and forth.

If you meditate in an advanced fashion, (which I had done prior to embracing Islam), you'd have noticed that sometimes your thoughts aren't yours, sometimes they are, sometimes they are so subject to change yadda yadda. Personally, if skipping a prayer my thoughts are usually not "flowing" and much choppier filled with sporadic egoistic in between.


- It's a religion of Fitrah (which means it is very Natural). Perhaps, hippies/liberals do not dislike it for this reason. Medicinally, holistic treatments (such as anise seed, herbs, honey) and inner faith (i.e. deep meditative trances in which the mind sends positive vibrations of healing) are recommended before prescription drugs. It promotes using very few resources and living lean. Sexually, celibacy is frowned upon as it goes to an extreme that leads to f*kked up things. Physical exercise is of course encouraged. Every animal fasts when they are sick. Treating animals really well is of course encouraged as horses had to be taken care of quite well in the desert. Oh, and it encourages its adherents to ponder upon nature and stay away from man-made deterrents to one's consciousness (i.e. music and clubs) so they can integrate harmoniously to the rhythm of the jungle in a sense.
It's understood (if you are a Muslim) that infants, materials, animals, plants, are "Muslims" in that they conform to the Will of Allah. It's when one doesn't conform to the Will of Allah that things start to malfunction.

The UNNATURAL parts of it are addressed when humans realize that their souls were composed of good and bad. The austerities and training are used to accelerate strengthen and refine the Good. Here's a clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbyH0GbwAMc



Muhammad (PBUH) never copied or pasted from the Book as every Scripture Prior is ALSO seen as holy. The Injil, Gospel, and Qu'ran were to be digested, comprehended, and absorbed with deep and clear understanding in order to walk the straight path. As a messenger, His intention was for Muhammad to be a SEAL of the PROPHETS, i.e. the Seal on an Envelope in that he reaffirmed what was already in the envelope was TRUE. HOWEVER, the people of Israel and Babylon had STRAYED from the original teachings of Moses and Christ and angered and wandered away from God for quite some time until 622 AD.




Obviously, you are entitle to your own opinion.

But in this specific subject, I'd like you be able to answer the following just so you can be someone who knows what they're talking about.

- What are four major needs of a human that Islam addresses and fulfills?
- Why is the Qu'ran perceived as Divine and not from human?
- What is the meaning of being The "Seal of all the Prophets"?
- How did the original Arabs react to Islam; is this a recurring theme; where else does it play?
- Name 1 Surah and find the meaning of it.
- The Qu'ran is an extension of the previous Revelated Books (Torah and Bible). True or False?
- At what times do Muslims pray?
- What was special about the Abbasid Caliphate?
- Why was the Bani Quraysh exterminated?
- Name a few battles during the first part of Islam in which further violence was stopped.
- What was especially evil about Abu Lahab and Abu Sufyan?
- What was especially noble about the Prophet and his companions?

[Nick Young]

Saracens are one of the best civilizations ever. Their Mamelukes are unbeatable and their cavalry archers are great for raiding, not to mention their powerful offensive navy.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Okay, get J$ to defend it.

I'll get DonDadda to post all the passages of violence and jihad in the Koran. He loves pointing out all the inconsistencies and antiquated notions in the Bible so I'm sure he'll be equally willing to point out controversial passages in the Koran.

I'm sure of it.

Lol DD59's cousin is Muzzie. So is Dasher's brother.

He's seen the fruits of someone who stuck to the path. And I'm like 99% sure he believes in God no matter what comes from the dudes fingertips.

Not a single average soul on here would give a flying fack on attentively loving Dresta and lifting him out of his depression/existential crisis. Most would be like F*CK DAT nerd. Only God has the power to create the force of Love.

[Nick Young]

Lol DD59's cousin is Muzzie. So is Dasher's brother.

He's seen the fruits of someone who stuck to the path. And I'm like 99% sure he believes in God no matter what comes from the dudes fingertips.

Not a single average soul on here would give a flying fack on attentively loving Dresta and lifting him out of his depression/existential crisis. Most would be like F*CK DAT nerd. Only God has the power to create the force of Love.
Why is Mohammad's message better than Buddha's?

Buddha preached non-violence and self improvement. Big Mo practiced +preached violence.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Lol.

This past week and a half
- India, with its large Muslim population issued many fatwas against terrorism.
- Yasir Qadhi and Linda Sarsour had an interview on Al Jazeera on the compatibility of Liberal values and Islam with the interviewer asking of homosexuality.
- The UK mosques did something in helping the UK populace
- Prayer Vigils had been held.
- The Bernardino case began to be iffy.

Things good for the safety of the West.

Things you have never bothered to post to balance the one-sided criticism you've allocated hundreds of hours to.. Are you cool with lacking integrity?

I want you to look deep in the mirror and ask yourself: That when you pass on this Earth, are you OK with the actions you've committed and the messages you've spread? That if violence, hatred, mistrust, bigotry, concentration camps were a direct result of your posting career on ISH, alongside with you yelling out half-truths targetting one group without the other part of the picture missing.. Would you be cool with it?

How do you feel about letting the world know over and over again ISIS "preaches True Islam" when they haven't even mastered the 5 Pillars and it blatantly forbids suicide and states "no compulsion in religion" as well as "let there be no sects" inside the Holy Qu'ran.

How do you feel about letting the world know Muhammad (PBUH) was a "violent tyrant" over and over again to a board of thousands without disclosing the itty bitty detail that the ones (Banu Quraysh) he killed
- Agreed to a covenant to protect them in battrle
- Went through with it until the war began
- Broke this covenant IN THE MIDDLE OF BATTLE and turned their back on the Muslims
- Didn't even apologize after
- Led Muhammad (PBUH) men to be disadvantaged and lives slaughtered.

Is this in any way, shape, or form respectable conduct on the battlefield? Especially to Arabs whose entire life depended on Honor?



Would you be comfortable reporting your deeds to Yahweh? Would you be comfortable bringing this to your funeral? Would you be comfortable bringing the trash you've posted on ISH.. to even your self in later ages? Would your Jewish ancestors who hated lying and insincerity welcome you with open arms if they knew the hell you intended to put upon this Earth?

Because that's the essence all children of Abraham must learn.. That there is One God and the Last Day. Know this and you'll have captured much more of Islam than anything the fools on here (including myself) post.. There will be a reaction and consequence for every act we do on Earth in Eternity.

This is why there is political correctness and the virtue of silence.

To prevent fools and liars from doing what fools and liars do, for their own health.

[Nick Young]

Dawg, I'm not saying all Muslims preach and practice violence. A vast majority don't practice violence and are against violence.


All I'm saying is that Mohammad himself preached violence and encouraged violence and practiced violence himself. It's all in the Koran, not to mention the Hadiths (fair enough if you don't like the Hadiths, some Muslims don't believe them). That doesn't mean that all Muslims today follow Mohamad's exact message, thank God AKA Allah AKA Yah Weh AKA Based Adonai.


Whereas other dudes like Lil Sidd and Yung Jeezy were constantly speaking out against violence and never practiced acts of violence. IMO those guys are superior to Big Mo because of this fact.


I want you to look deep in the mirror and ask yourself: That when you pass on this Earth, are you OK with the actions you've committed and the messages you've spread? That if violence, hatred, mistrust, bigotry, concentration camps were a direct result of your posting career on ISH, alongside with you yelling out half-truths targetting one group without the other part of the picture missing.. Would you be cool with it?

Hell yes. I speak out against Muslims who commit acts of violence in the name of Islam (note-not all Muslims), cultish Mormon nuts and Scientologist crazies. I'm pretty sure God and the angels will give me a high five and a bro shake once I get to them.

How the hell will concentration camps spawn from my words? It won't happen.

If concentration camps are made to round up all Muslims who have committed acts of violence in the name of Islam as a result of my posts on ISH? Yes I'd be proud. The same goes for practitioners of all religions who commit acts of violence in the name of their religion. Yes I would be very happy if people who commit deadly acts of religious violence were rounded up in a concentration camp/prison and forced to live there until they die.




How do you feel about letting the world know Muhammad (PBUH) was a "violent tyrant" over and over again to a board of thousands without disclosing the itty bitty detail that the ones (Banu Quraysh) he killed
- Agreed to a covenant to protect them in battrle
- Went through with it until the war began
- Broke this covenant IN THE MIDDLE OF BATTLE and turned their back on the Muslims
- Didn't even apologize after
- Led Muhammad (PBUH) men to be disadvantaged and lives slaughtered.

I hope you are aware that Mohammad the warlord committed more acts of violence than just the slaughter of the Banu Quraysh. I hope you are aware that he lead a military campaign of conquest across the Arab peninsula, while he was alive. This is historic fact, backed up by archaeological evidence and contemporary accounts of the people who were conquered by Big Mo and the first Muslims.

Do you deny this?

How many people do you think died under the Islam inspired military campaign lead by Big Mo aka the prophet of Islam?



Did Young Jeezy or Lil Sidd ever lead military campaigns, or encourage their followers to go to war? Don't think so bro.


Would your Jewish ancestors who hated lying and insincerity welcome you with open arms if they knew the hell you intended to put upon this Earth?

What hell do you think I intend to put upon this Earth? All I do is speak out against religious inspired acts of violence and terrorism.

[Trollsmasher]

I honestly just don't understand why anyone would follow Islam.

Judaism has the tradition of the commandments from God to Moses on Mt. Sinai, and there's really no evidence to specifically dispute that, even if you don't believe it. With Christianity, Jesus himself didn't write down anything saying "follow me, I'm starting this religion." It was others who testified that he performed miracles and was a savior.

With Islam, it's well documented that this guy Mohammed basically was fascinated with Judaism and Christianity, and sat down and wrote his own bizarre extension to them, and included a whole bunch of passages instructing people to kill anyone that doesn't believe and accept his version of it.

It's not even a debate in the academic world. This guy was trying to "start a religion." Like L. Rob Hubbard did with Scientology. He just wrote down a bunch of stuff and said "believe my religion or die."

Why would you wanna be a part of that? Pretty silly IMO.
just a note - Mo couldn't write since he was dumb as fvck

[Nick Young]

just a note - Mo couldn't write since he was dumb as fvck
He couldn't write (allegedly) but he was pretty intelligent. Pretty sure big Mo was a successful merchant and salesman with elite levels of charisma before he first started Islam. Can't take that away from him. Dumb as fvck people don't become successful merchants and market traders.

[Nick Young]

Why do people always leave and fail to respond when I mention the historic fact that Mohammad was a warlord who lead an army on a military conquest in the name of spreading Islam?

[pauk]

J$ :applause:

But its damn pointless when the people arguing with you are that stubborn with their judgements / not willing to grasp no matter how much you verify their assumptions not just defective but persistently agenda driven.... like talking to a wall...

[Nick Young]

J$ :applause:

But its damn pointless when the people arguing with you are that stubborn with their judgements / not willing to grasp no matter how much you verify their assumptions not just defective but persistently agenda driven.... like talking to a wall...
Did Mohammad lead a military conquest across the Arab peninsula in the name of Islam?

It is a simple yes or no question.

[LEFT4DEAD]

The most funny part about this shity holiday of yours is that Jesus wasnt even born on 25th of December. I mean, how sad is that :lol

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

"And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not."

These 2 verses in the beginning of Surah Baqara (the 2nd Surat labelled the "Golden Calf" which details a surat fixated primarily on the corrupt Israelites turning away from Moses Teachings into worshipping a golden calf (perhaps a symbol of their attachment to wealth and beef?) touch base on different types of "Disbelievers."

Lettuce have a discussion on life and "characters" in a BROAD sense because the Qu'ran was supposed to be universal in its wisdom. Apply to ALL eras of all time for all of manind.


The Qu'ran addresses one who says "i'm just trynna help" but screws things worse and doesn't even have the self awareness to realize it.
We all know that guy. The one who says he's trying to help, trying to make things right. But he always manages to f*cks things up and make it worst for all parties involved. That's Bruinlove (and myself at the moment) in a nutshell. He even lacks the self-awareness to realize how utterly pointless it is to bring things up that are both irrelevant, off-tangent, promote even less harmony between two huge civilizations. Hopefully the Dear Reader learns something of this.


One example the Qu'ran conveys is that:
If you tell them the Truth about anything, they'll stick their fingers in their ears. These are the types to ignore their consciences and continue on with their sinful ways. The ones who would obey authority at a brim in the Millgram Experiment. As you desensitize over and over again, you become more narcisstic sociopathic. You can see this wickedness appear in MMKM and BlazersDozen character as these two fools would pull a trigger finger on the entire Middle East.

Another kind of liar is the one who says they are about something but aren't. This kind of lying to yourself is very very dangerous as the only person who will end up believing and operating on those lies.. is ones self. "This above all to thine self be true" is a very eloquently way of illustrating the solution to this kind of liar. You can see this when a girl says "I'm not that kind of girl" when she really is that type of Girl.


Another kind of liar is the one who says one thing while in one group and then changes his views when he's with another group. A bandwagoner that mixes and molds according to their environment. Basically, spineless. These are the kind of liars that C.S. especially seems to detest.

And again it tells of another kind of liar. The one who thinks "their forefather was fools." This is deceit through ways of intellectual arrogance without a firm understanding of their ancestral roots. The kind Dresta rightfully crticizes when discussing the millenial generation. The kind that DonDadda59 and 3ball talk about when discussing modern eras.


... That covers only the beginning. The Surah goes into much more detail after.

[Nick Young]

"And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not."

These 2 verses in the beginning of Surah Baqara (the 2nd Surat labelled the "Golden Calf" which details a surat fixated primarily on the corrupt Israelites turning away from Moses Teachings into worshipping a golden calf (perhaps a symbol of their attachment to wealth and beef?) touch base on different types of "Disbelievers."

Lettuce have a discussion on life and "characters" in a BROAD sense because the Qu'ran was supposed to be universal in its wisdom. Apply to ALL eras of all time for all of manind.


The Qu'ran addresses one who says "i'm just trynna help" but screws things worse and doesn't even have the self awareness to realize it.
We all know that guy. The one who says he's trying to help, trying to make things right. But he always manages to f*cks things up and make it worst for all parties involved. That's Bruinlove (and myself at the moment) in a nutshell. He even lacks the self-awareness to realize how utterly pointless it is to bring things up that are both irrelevant, off-tangent, promote even less harmony between two huge civilizations. Hopefully the Dear Reader learns something of this.


One example the Qu'ran conveys is that:
If you tell them the Truth about anything, they'll stick their fingers in their ears. These are the types to ignore their consciences and continue on with their sinful ways. The ones who would obey authority at a brim in the Millgram Experiment. As you desensitize over and over again, you become more narcisstic sociopathic. You can see this wickedness appear in MMKM and BlazersDozen character as these two fools would pull a trigger finger on the entire Middle East.

Another kind of liar is the one who says they are about something but aren't. This kind of lying to yourself is very very dangerous as the only person who will end up believing and operating on those lies.. is ones self. "This above all to thine self be true" is a very eloquently way of illustrating the solution to this kind of liar. You can see this when a girl says "I'm not that kind of girl" when she really is that type of Girl.


Another kind of liar is the one who says one thing while in one group and then changes his views when he's with another group. A bandwagoner that mixes and molds according to their environment. Basically, spineless. These are the kind of liars that C.S. especially seems to detest.

And again it tells of another kind of liar. The one who thinks "their forefather was fools." This is deceit through ways of intellectual arrogance without a firm understanding of their ancestral roots. The kind Dresta rightfully crticizes when discussing the millenial generation. The kind that DonDadda59 and 3ball talk about when discussing modern eras.


... That covers only the beginning. The Surah goes into much more detail after.
Did Mohammad lead a violent military conquest across the Arab peninsula in the name of Islam?

It is a simple yes or no question.

No Muslim on ISH has ever answered this simple yes or no question directly.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Did Mohammad lead a violent military conquest across the Arab peninsula in the name of Islam?

It is a simple yes or no question.

No Muslim on ISH has ever answered this simple yes or no question directly.
no :confusedshrug:

now answer me, wtf are you exactly celebrating on 25th of december :lol

[gigantes]

Wish a Muslim a very Merry Christmas....
and don't forget to wish a christian a lousy krampus (http://www.omgfacts.com/homeanddiy/25115/Here-s-What-You-Should-Know-About-Krampus-The-Christmas-Demon-Before-He-Comes-For-You). :D


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may every christian burn in hellfire this season! :banana:

[Nick Young]

no :confusedshrug:

now answer me, wtf are you exactly celebrating on 25th of december :lol
Why are you lying? It is fact that Mohammad did indeed lead a violent military campaign across the Arab peninsula. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_Muhammad)




Muslims view that the Muslims fought only when attacked, or in the context of a wider war of self-defense. They argue that Muhammad was the first among the major military figures of history[citation needed] to lay down rules for humane warfare, and that he was scrupulous in limiting the loss of life as much as possible.

Javed Ahmed Ghamidi writes in Mizan that there are certain directives of the Qur’an pertaining to war which were specific only to Muhammad against Divinely specified peoples of his times (the polytheists and the Israelites and Nazarites of Arabia and some other Jews, Christians, et al.) as a form of Divine punishment—for they had persistently denied the truth of Muhammad's mission even after it had been made conclusively evident to them by Allah through Muhammad, and asked the polytheists of Arabia for submission to Islam as a condition for exoneration and the others for jizya and submission to the political authority of the Muslims for exemption from death punishment and for military protection as the dhimmis of the Muslims. Therefore, after Muhammad and his companions, there is no concept in Islam obliging Muslims to wage war for propagation or implementation of Islam, hence now, the only valid reason for war is to end oppression when all other measures have failed. (jihad)[1][18]

Hmmm. Seems like Big Mo and his bros used violence and military force to spread their religion when people didn't submit.



I don't celebrate Christmas. I don't celebrate anything on the 25th of December. I'm not a Christian.