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12-19-2015, 09:42 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14400626/kobe-bryant-all-time-great (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

Top 15 Kobe :applause:

TommyGriffin
12-19-2015, 09:48 PM
Big Time Pelican fan, also fan of the Cavaliers as well checking in.

I can't really trust ESPN for non-biased basketball opinions anymore ever since the Golden State Screwjob. Where they snubbed Curry on the FMVP after he put up 26/6/5, which is regarded as the worst FMVP selection of all time.

references
12-19-2015, 09:50 PM
Big Time Pelican fan, also fan of the Cavaliers as well checking in.

I can't really trust ESPN for non-biased basketball opinions anymore ever since the Golden State Screwjob. Where they snubbed Curry on the FMVP after he put up 26/6/5, which is regarded as the worst FMVP selection of all time.
you understand this gimmick is gay and no one cares right :lol

ShaqTwizzle
12-19-2015, 09:50 PM
Good article.
These are the guys I currently rank above Kobe (no order).

Jordan
Kareem
Shaquille

Magic
Russell
Duncan
Hakeem

Wilt
Bird
Lebron

I also consider Jerry West who I think is underrated but era differences make it harder.
He is Top 15 but people who say he cannot be outside the Top 10 are wrong.
There are 10+ guys with a good case against him though I would not be offended by those who might have him just barely inside.

fiddy
12-19-2015, 09:52 PM
Good article.
These are the guys I currently rank above Kobe (no order).

Jordan
Kareem
Shaquille

Magic
Russell
Duncan
Hakeem

Wilt
Bird
Lebron

I also consider Jerry West who I think is underrated but like Russell & Wilt the era differences make it tougher.



Kobe >Wilt, Hakeem, Shaq and Russell. Bran in the top 10?! :roll:

Mr. Jabbar
12-19-2015, 09:53 PM
Kobe has claimed so many minds through his careers by OWNING teams :lol :lol look at the stupid fvcks in this thread like shaqtwizler for example :facepalm humongous piece of shit right there

Top 7 all time at worst.

Deal with it.

ArbitraryWater
12-19-2015, 09:53 PM
Good article.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Kvnzhangyay
12-19-2015, 10:12 PM
Good article.
These are the guys I currently rank above Kobe (no order).

Jordan
Kareem
Shaquille

Magic
Russell
Duncan
Hakeem

Wilt
Bird
Lebron

I also consider Jerry West who I think is underrated but era differences make it harder.
He is Top 15 but people who say he cannot be outside the Top 10 are wrong.
There are 10+ guys with a good case against him though I would not be offended by those who might have him just barely inside.

Is there any reason you rank Hakeem so highly?

ShaqTwizzle
12-19-2015, 10:20 PM
Is there any reason you rank Hakeem so highly?

Yeah.
His longevity is quite elite (elite from 85-97) (13 years)
*
He 2peated as the man in a very impressive fashion.
*
His scoring stats over his full Prime are better then Kobe's.
*
He was one of the best defenders ever.

The only real knock against him is that he didn't win more in his early years but for the moment I tend to believe that is more because he got stuck in a pretty shitty team situation where he had weak casts, drug addicted teammates and bad coaching etc...

My opinions on Hakeem are far from fully formed so its possible that I could drop him in the future but for now that is how I see him.

In his 2nd year when he had a healthy Sampson he led his team past the Peak Magic led Laker's and even managed to take 2 games off of the legendary 86 Celtic's.

So that helps support my view that a young Hakeem could have won had he been in a better situation.

Certainly a young Hakeem could have easily won a few titles with a player like 91-93 MJ who is the best guard equivelant for 00-02 Shaq who a young Kobe for example 3peated with.

TomBrady
12-19-2015, 11:05 PM
Bgi Tiem Elpcina nfa, laos fan fo eth Acvlaeirs as lwle hcncekig ni.

I cna't learly srtut SEPN for nno-ibasde satbkbaell poionsin anymore rvee nseci the Ogdeln Astet Srjwecob. Werhe heyt unbsbde Curry no het Mpfv teafr eh upt up 26/6/5, cwhhi is aerdgred as eth wostr Vmfp elsetcino of lal temi.
Sorry, I don't speak peasant. Can I get this in GOAT?

sportjames23
12-19-2015, 11:23 PM
Sorry, I don't speak peasant. Can I get this in GOAT?


When did you change your name to Joe Montana?

SouBeachTalents
12-19-2015, 11:25 PM
When did you change your name to Joe Montana?

I've got Montana as GOAT (it is extremely close though), but if Brady wins MVP & the Super Bowl this year he surpasses Montana as GOAT

warriorfan
12-19-2015, 11:30 PM
When did you change your name to Joe Montana?

Damn, ethered.

TomBrady
12-19-2015, 11:32 PM
Hnwe idd oyu nagche ouyr nmea ot Eoj Omtnnaa?

Dnam, ehterde.
Sorry, I don't speak peasant.

eeeeeebro
12-19-2015, 11:34 PM
maybe cause in 4 years in a row he lead the league in scoring and jordan knew when he was a rookie to show him a little respect. other than that he is nothing give me magic johnson who NEVER faded kinda disapeared on top of the game.

CAstill
12-19-2015, 11:35 PM
Shaqtwizzle is an idiot. Shaq himself will tell you Kobe better lol. Kobe is better than a lot of the players he listed.

references
12-19-2015, 11:42 PM
Shaqtwizzle is an idiot. Shaq himself will tell you Kobe better lol. Kobe is better than a lot of the players he listed.
no he would not. shaq has a big ego and doesn't think of himself lesser than kobe of all people

ShaqTwizzle
12-19-2015, 11:46 PM
Shaq himself will tell you Kobe better lol.


Better then who?
And why should I care what he thinks?
Because he is a former player?

Barkley once said that Iverson was in his Top 5 All-Time list.
Should I also believe that?


Kobe is better than a lot of the players he listed.

That sounds like an opinion not a fact.
I already explained why I rank Hakeem higher.

Jordan, Kareem & Shaq being higher is obvious and doesn't really require much of an explanation for those who know their sh*t.

Magic being higher is fairly normal and most people rank him higher.
Same for Wilt though I rank him lower then most.

Duncan & Bird are ranked higher by many... nothing strange there.
Lebron is or will be ranked higher by most if he isn't already.

Russell is a unique player from an older era so... harder to rank him but plenty have him ahead of the Mamba.
I wouldn't be bothered by those who rank him lower though.

I don't think there is anything strange or illogical about my list or having Kobe just outside the Top 10.

:confusedshrug:

TomBrady
12-19-2015, 11:48 PM
Kobe Bryant is basically Terry Bradshaw.

SouBeachTalents
12-20-2015, 12:00 AM
Kobe Bryant is basically Terry Bradshaw.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11932186&postcount=22

:cheers:

TomBrady
12-20-2015, 12:09 AM
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