Curry would embarrass Jordan

[lilteapot]

that broke jump shot havin ass nikka would get crossed right out of those itty bitty shoes

[deja vu]

Of course, he's 52.

[oh the horror]

Even you don't believe the shit you say.

[Haymaker]

Let's talk about Curry defending MJ then.

http://fightbeat.com/forums/images/smilies/Popcorn.gif

[sd3035]

If MJ had been double and triple teamed from half court, and held all the time like Curry, he would have been lucky to average 20 in his prime

Curry would put up 50 + against the defense MJ faced

[Segatti]

If MJ had been double and triple teamed from half court, and held all the time like Curry, he would have been lucky to average 20 in his prime

Curry would put up 50 + against the defense MJ faced

Don't forget the shortened three point line.

[3ball]

broke jumpshot havin ass nikka


Jordan's jumpshot was better than Curry's from inside 20 feet:



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/)

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 54.8%, 31 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.0%, 22 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 44.4%, 45 fga



Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016: 43.8%, 73 fga


Anyone who disagrees that MJ was a better shooter inside 20 feet must explain why Curry shoots FAR worse percentage inside 20 feet.. :confusedshrug:

[sd3035]

Don't forget the shortened three point line.


All the ref help too. Curry amazingly still gets no superstar calls

[72-10]

well you have certainly embarrassed yourself

suggest letting the thread die

[sdot_thadon]

Jordan's jumpshot was better than Curry's from inside 20 feet:



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/)

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 54.8%, 31 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.0%, 22 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 44.4%, 45 fga



Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY.. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016: 43.8%, 73 fga


Anyone who disagrees that MJ was a better shooter inside 20 feet must explain why Curry shoots FAR worse percentage inside 20 feet.. :confusedshrug:
You got numbers from his prime, im pretty sure he became a better shooter 2nd 3peat....even if not by a large margin.

[72-10]

You got numbers from his prime, im pretty sure he became a better shooter 2nd 3peat....even if not by a large margin.

Why would that matter anyhow? He would just beat Curry every time on drives

[3ball]

that nikka would get crossed right out of those itty bitty shoes


http://cavaliersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2015-06-08-at-4.10.02-PM.jpg

[INDENT][I]"[COLOR="Red"]But it was Dellavedova's defense that had LeBron James saying,

[3ball]

You got numbers from his prime, im pretty sure he became a better shooter 2nd 3peat....even if not by a large margin.
Apparently, you'll say anything - those stats are from 1997 when MJ was 33 and 34 years old.

MJ's best shooting years were 1988-1993, particularly 1991 - that's when he shot 55% and had 125 ORtg...

His ORtg increased to an AMAZING 127 in the 1991 playoffs.. goat

[dhsilv]

[QUOTE=72-10]Why would that matter anyhow? He would just beat Curry every time on drives

[juju151111]

and same could happen if curry has the ball first....
No way is Curry stopping Mj on defense. None. Mj could stop him though.

[diamenz]

that broke jump shot havin ass nikka would get crossed right out of those itty bitty shoes

ya, prob.

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=72-10]Why would that matter anyhow? He would just beat Curry every time on drives

[DoctorP]

I would love to see this matchup. How would Jordan handle Curry? We will never know. Jordan would obviously dominate Curry offensively but Id love to see how he would D up Curry.

[sdot_thadon]

Apparently, you'll say anything - those stats are from 1997 when MJ was 33 and 34 years old.

MJ's best shooting years were 1988-1993, particularly 1991 - that's when he shot 55% and had 125 ORtg...

His ORtg increased to an AMAZING 127 in the 1991 playoffs.. goat
Shooting splits? Or you just going to do the same dumb shit as always and assume the numbers were the same?

[sdot_thadon]

I would love to see this matchup. How ould Jordan handle Curry? We will never know.
It'd be crazy, game would mostly depend on who gets ball 1st. Curry has zero chance of stopping any version of Mj. While Mj could be shellshocked by a dude with such range and moves to get his shot off from litterally anywhere in the gym. Mj would win most of the matchups but id imagine curry could steal a few, he's an elite baller.

[72-10]

this thread should have been deleted

admins, you are pathetic

[DoctorP]

It'd be crazy, game would mostly depend on who gets ball 1st. Curry has zero chance of stopping any version of Mj. While Mj could be shellshocked by a dude with such range and moves to get his shot off from litterally anywhere in the gym. Mj would win most of the matchups but id imagine curry could steal a few, he's an elite baller.

Im in agreement here :cheers:

[dhsilv]

No way is Curry stopping Mj on defense. None. Mj could stop him though.

Curry can certainly hold MJ to a jumper and if the shots are missed there's opportunity.

[sd3035]

this thread should have been deleted

admins, you are pathetic


truth hurts :roll:

[sportjames23]

Never thought I'd see a worse troll than dubeta, but OP has managed to do just that.

Happy Holidays, fakkit.

[sportjames23]

Curry can certainly hold MJ to a jumper and if the shots are missed there's opportunity.


You really don't believe that stupid shit.

[sportjames23]

truth hurts :roll:


And look at this little bitch following OP around these threads like a sock puppet.

Hmm...

[StephHamann]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJa4t-4DQ0Y

[AirBonner]

It would be similar to how he did vs reggie miller

[sdot_thadon]

It would be similar to how he did vs reggie miller
They'd fight? I don't think Curry is that dude lol.

[72-10]

Because people tend to amalgamize all his stats and attritubes as if it all occured at once. Just like any player there are different versions of Mj. Young Mj was more capable of locking curry up but wasn't the shooter that older, smarter 2nd 3peat Mj was. So it matters in the sense of specifying what curry would be up against. Citing Mjs 1997 shooting stats also suggest a past prime Mj less capable of locking up curry......get it?

Yeah I picked up on that when I watched him in 97 and 98. MJ was obviously a better player before he retired for the first time, but he hadn't developed his fadeaway yet to the point where he used it exclusively during games, so I would fathom that he was a better shooter in the second three peat. He might be the most accurate shooter ever from about 20 feet in.

But I must harken back to the point that if it were early MJ he would just beat Curry on drives because he had one of the quickest first steps on any player. He used this to great effect as early as his rookie year.

ie. he crossed up Dennis Johnson and then beat the whole Celtics team quite a few times in his early years

[Done_And_Done]

Then the dudes who be PM'ing me, wondering why the f*uck I don't bother regularly posting on here anymore...

[lilteapot]

And look at this little bitch following OP around these threads like a sock puppet.

Hmm...
Get me out of your head buddy

[Spurs m8]

that broke jump shot havin ass nikka would get crossed right out of those itty bitty shoes

This blokes not too bright

[KnicksWolves]

Jordan would have a far better chance of "embarrassing" Curry than the other way around. While Jordan can definitely get some stops on Curry, which of Jordan's tools is Curry going to stop with his not-so-great defense? Jordan would be able to blow by Curry most of the time, and on a post up? Forget about it. Dumb thread is dumb. Amusing...but dumb, lol

[juju151111]

Curry can certainly hold MJ to a jumper and if the shots are missed there's opportunity.
Bro have you seen Warriors games where Curry gets switched on to a plqyer in the post bigger then him. He gets back down and scored on real easily. This is why they hide him. He would never force Mj to do something he doesn't want too. He would just back him down for the easy too. While Mj is known to guard speedy PG and can be physical and rip tje ball from him. Watch how Bos and Pistons guarded Curry.

[inclinerator]

idk curry cant even beat mcw, evan turner off the dribble

[juju151111]

It'd be crazy, game would mostly depend on who gets ball 1st. Curry has zero chance of stopping any version of Mj. While Mj could be shellshocked by a dude with such range and moves to get his shot off from litterally anywhere in the gym. Mj would win most of the matchups but id imagine curry could steal a few, he's an elite baller.
Both version of Mj would give him a tough outing. Mj was still guarding PG even 2nd 3peat and your forgetting Mj has quick hands. and taller. He like top 4 alltime in stls and only played 15 seasons retired twice. Look how Bradley and the Pistons guarded Steph. Also look how Kawhi guarded him the past two years when he switched on him.

[72-10]

I think a better thread would be Iverson vs. Jordan

but then again, Iverson was not a good defender, so

[dhsilv]

Bro have you seen Warriors games where Curry gets switched on to a plqyer in the post bigger then him. He gets back down and scored on real easily. This is why they hide him. He would never force Mj to do something he doesn't want too. He would just back him down for the easy too. While Mj is known to guard speedy PG and can be physical and rip tje ball from him. Watch how Bos and Pistons guarded Curry.

never said or implied in a best of 100 it would be close....

[Spurs m8]

wherever you're from they must breed a special type of retard

Coming from the inbred homo that starts a thread "Curry would embarrass Jordan"

Is it school holidays or something?

Go do your homework

[lilteapot]

Coming from the inbred homo that starts a thread "Curry would embarrass Jordan"

Is it school holidays or something?

Go do your homework

you seem upset

[OldSchoolBBall]

Because people tend to amalgamize all his stats and attritubes as if it all occured at once. Just like any player there are different versions of Mj. Young Mj was more capable of locking curry up but wasn't the shooter that older, smarter 2nd 3peat Mj was. So it matters in the sense of specifying what curry would be up against. Citing Mjs 1997 shooting stats also suggest a past prime Mj less capable of locking up curry......get it?

'91-'93 Jordan was just as good a shooter as '96-'98 Jordan.

[sdot_thadon]

'91-'93 Jordan was just as good a shooter as '96-'98 Jordan.
I watched him, and i disagree. I think 1st 3peat Mj was a strong pull up jump shooter, but his outside jumper wasn't as reliable. His post turnaround even pretty much had different form altogether back then. 2nd 3peat basically lived in the mid range, refined post turnaround to the point it was nearly automatic. While not losing his pull up jumper and increasing his range, especially with the 3point line moved in.

His jumpshooting volume for the 2nd 3peat >>>

[Spurs m8]

you seem upset

So does ya mum

[Cold soul]

Jordan would embarrass Curry pretty bad.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I watched him, and i disagree. I think 1st 3peat Mj was a strong pull up jump shooter, but his outside jumper wasn't as reliable. His post turnaround even pretty much had different form altogether back then. 2nd 3peat basically lived in the mid range, refined post turnaround to the point it was nearly automatic. While not losing his pull up jumper and increasing his range, especially with the 3point line moved in.

His jumpshooting volume for the 2nd 3peat >>>

Jordan was widely considered the best shooter in the league from 21 feet and in from 1991 onwards, and his midrange percentages from '90-'93 as provided by PHILA are astounding. So I'm pretty sure he was just as good a shooter inside the arc.

EDIT: Jumpshot volume is due to his style change. And while it's more impressive to maintain good percentages on higher volume (at any distance), I don't think it's because he was incapable of doing so in the early 90's in this instance - he just didn't have to take as many jumpers when he was more athletic.

[sdot_thadon]

Jordan was widely considered the best shooter in the league from 21 feet and in from 1991 onwards, and his midrange percentages from '90-'93 as provided by PHILA are astounding. So I'm pretty sure he was just as good a shooter inside the arc.
He was with the attempts he took, but he didn't shoot with as much volume or variety as the 2nd 3peat. You have to understand 1st 3peat Mj was a goat tier penetrator only a few ever got the basket as well. 2nd 3peat Mj still could get there but he wasnt nearly the freak he was, im sure that's why he further developed his jumper. I not arguing that he was a poor shooter by any means, just a lesser shooter than in the 2nd 3peat for the reasons mentioned. I believe that's fair.

[eeeeeebro]

jordan averaged 32 points per game over his first 13 seasons curry isnt even at 32 points per game this 1 season.

[sd3035]

Jordan's TS% was too low to be compared with such an efficient scorer like Curry

[72-10]

Jordan's TS% was too low to be compared with such an efficient scorer like Curry

I'd have to say that 99% of your posts are BS

[72-10]

and his midrange percentages from '90-'93 as provided by PHILA

where are you getting your data? Could you please link me?

[sd3035]

I'd have to say that 99% of your posts are BS

looks like you just responded to the 1% then :cheers:

[72-10]

'fraid not:lol

Curry might be a better long range shooter and free throw shooter, but not a better mid-range shooter. (or driver or defender or winner or anything else you can name)

Not close as a player

[sd3035]

Jordan's PER wasn't good enough to compete with this year's Curry

[72-10]

Jordan's PER wasn't good enough to compete with this year's Curry

We're only 27 games into the season though

Did you know that PER doesn't really factor in defense much?

[AirBonner]

jordan averaged 32 points per game over his first 13 seasons curry isnt even at 32 points per game this 1 season.
Pretty much this. Curry fam can't even compare to kobe yet. Slow your roll

[72-10]

With all this said Curry's win shares must be at a crazy pace right now

[sd3035]

26-1 says it all folks :applause:

[sd3035]

26-1 = 260-10 :bowdown:

[72-10]

you really need to stop

I doubt they will get to 41-3 like Jordan's Bulls did

or 48-6 like Jordan's Bulls did the following year

or you know, 72-10, 69-13, that sort of thing

[sd3035]

you really need to stop

I doubt they will get to 41-3 like Jordan's Bulls did

or 48-6 like Jordan's Bulls did the following year

or you know, 72-10, 69-13, that sort of thing

They are already basically 260-10 :eek:

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[72-10]

at least you provide some humor

[AirBonner]

They are already basically 260-10 :eek:

:applause: :applause: :applause:
Except they are not. :applause:

[sd3035]

Except they are not. :applause:

you have to crunch the numbers a bit more

:applause: :applause:

[AirBonner]

you have to crunch the numbers a bit more

:applause: :applause:
Still no finals mvp doe :lol

[Spurs m8]

you have to crunch the numbers a bit more

:applause: :applause:

Is anything you type not full of shit?

[72-10]

They are already basically 260-10 :eek:

:applause: :applause: :applause:

During the Bulls six championship runs their home record was 217-29

90-91: 35-6
91-92: 36-5
92-93: 31-10
95-96: 39-2
96-97: 39-2
97-98: 37-4
Total: 217-29

They were also the greatest road team in the league's history.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[AirBonner]

During the Bulls six championship runs their home record was 217-29

90-91: 35-6
91-92: 36-5
92-93: 31-10
95-96: 39-2
96-97: 39-2
97-98: 37-4
Total: 217-29

They were also the greatest road team in the league's history.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Wrecked/

[OldSchoolBBall]

where are you getting your data? Could you please link me?

These threads: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=292414

Some selection bias, yes, but astounding nonetheless.

[FashionIssues]

Curry would embarrass defenders present and past. why are older heads too clingy when it comes to their stars?

[sportjames23]

Lots of ignorant new heads up in this piece. :facepalm

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Curry would embarrass defenders present and past. why are older heads too clingy when it comes to their stars?

dad is like this. Hes a huge Mj/90s stan

[AirBonner]

Curry would embarrass defenders present and past. why are older heads too clingy when it comes to their stars?
Jordan was a good defender. Curry would be challenged by his length. Not only that but Curry doesn't really defend well. Jordan would avg 50ppg on him easily. Friggen kids born in the 00's smdh.

[Goofsta Knicca]

Deandre

[3ball]

Curry can certainly hold MJ to a jumper and if the shots are missed there's opportunity.
MJ can get a layup on curry anytime he wants..

MJ was 6'6" and the strongest guard to ever play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=1m52s), while curry is a fragile ***** by comparison.

[sdot_thadon]

These threads: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=292414

Some selection bias, yes, but astounding nonetheless.
Exactly my point, i remember the thread. Should be a given and understood that these are incomplete and perhaps even cherry picked numbers. Nice to have as a snapshot but not the basis of a debate. Especially funny to see them used against a full body of work of the compared player.

[72-10]

These threads: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=292414

Some selection bias, yes, but astounding nonetheless.

Thank you dude. Didn't realize that they ran so many isos for Jordan quite that early.

[72-10]

MJ can get a layup on curry anytime he wants..

MJ was 6'6" and the strongest guard to ever play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=1m52s), while curry is a fragile ***** by comparison.

Nevermind height, Jordan was the best ever at creating his own shot and no one has ever come close to him in that dept.

[andgar923]

Curry is perhaps his team's worst defender, how is HE gonna stop Mj?

I bet money that MJ has a better time stopping Curry than vice versa.

[sd3035]

Gary Payton shut down Jordan and Iverson absolutely embarrassed him on offense

Curry would have a field day with Ordan

[andgar923]

Gary Payton shut down Jordan and Iverson absolutely embarrassed him on offense

Curry would have a field day with Ordan
weak troll attempt.

Payton did NOT shut down MJ, and Iverson did NOT embarrass MJ.

Btw.... Iverson is much quicker than Curry, if Iverson needs two crossovers to get off a contested shot on 'old' man MJ. The slower Curry would have a hard time getting an open look on prime MJ.

[sportjames23]

These young bitches are just infatuated with the new.

Most of these fakkits aren't even Curry or Warriors fans. They're just trying to start shit since their boy Lebron failed to match or exceed MJ.

[AirBonner]

These young bitches are just infatuated with the new.

Most of these fakkits aren't even Curry or Warriors fans. They're just trying to start shit since their boy Lebron failed to match or exceed MJ.
This. They weren't even born when MJ was on his second three peat. :lol

[Dr Seuss]

Im a firm believer that prime jordan would make prime curry cry on the court