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3ball
12-21-2015, 07:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-JJX2SRHc&t=1m56s
http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/03/the-25-most-unbreakable-records-in-sports-history/15


Dale Brown (former coach of LSU) did play-by-play analysis on Pete Maravich's college games.

The analysis found that Pete would've averaged 13 three-point MAKES per game and 57 ppg.

Pete's career average in three years of college WITHOUT the 3-point line was 44 ppg.

Curry ain't ****in with that.. Maravich was taller, bigger and stronger, with greater athleticism - this was necessary to score in a rougher, more compacted/congested 2-point environment.
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Gileraracer
12-21-2015, 07:28 AM
That's why he's called Pistol Pete :applause:

Alamо
12-21-2015, 08:00 AM
nice

sdot_thadon
12-21-2015, 08:40 AM
Right, because they heavily defended a line that didn't exist. :rolleyes:

Pistol was a badass indeed, perhaps the og. But if this isn't the dumbest idea you've support an insecurity thread with it's up there.

Don't you realize with this idea you kinda prove curry supporters theory of how he'd still ball, with or without the line..

ShawkFactory
12-21-2015, 11:15 AM
Goddammit your threads are stupid

Papaya Petee
12-21-2015, 11:27 AM
1.) They're discussing the college 3 point line, not NBA, so in the NBA he wasn't hitting 13 3's a game
2.) The defense didn't defend a line that didn't exist
3.) Curry plays in a more advanced, athletic, better defensive era. Comparing them two is like apples and oranges
4.) You're stupid, and Jordan sucks

stalkerforlife
12-21-2015, 11:28 AM
Pistol Pete was a hell of a player, but he was exposed at the NBA level.

Curry is much better.

bigkingsfan
12-21-2015, 12:16 PM
Sounds like he's even better than Jordan.

TemporaMutantur
12-21-2015, 12:48 PM
With an average set of social skills, 3ball would've made 13 friends and 57 dollars per rim-job.

An analysis has shown, that any consistent demonstrations of positive or remotely affable traits by the man who goes by the pseudonym "3ball" would have resulted in a much more favorable social life.

However, the unfortunate reality is that his dogmatic and overzealous manners of behavior has left him ostracized and reprimanded by the public.

Some speculate that it is sheer miracle that he has not pulled the plug, as a specialist in statistics estimates, at a 95% confidence interval, that 97 out of 100 people in the same position as 3ball would have killed themselves at least 5 years ago.

In reality, 3ball has no friends (1 friend according to his own reportings) and makes only 50 cents per rim-job administered.

MJ has alluded in a recent interview, that the rim-jobs administered by (an unspecified party) have been subpar at best, but the prices offered are fair.

AirFederer
12-21-2015, 01:03 PM
Is 3Ball = Lazeruss :eek:

Straight_Ballin
12-21-2015, 01:04 PM
Maravich in today's game? Without transferring his game from back then into present day and instead growing up at the same time as Curry? There's no way to know if his overall game would be as good as Curry or not, but he'd be one hell of a shooter no doubt.

sd3035
12-21-2015, 01:08 PM
Is 3Ball = Lazeruss :eek:

They have about the same level of autism

swagga
12-21-2015, 01:23 PM
Sounds like he's even better than Jordan.

someone gets it :roll:

aj1987
12-21-2015, 02:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-JJX2SRHc&t=1m56s
http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/03/the-25-most-unbreakable-records-in-sports-history/15


Dale Brown (former coach of LSU) did play-by-play analysis on Pete Maravich's college games.

The analysis found that Pete would've averaged 13 three-point MAKES per game and 57 ppg.

Pete's career average in three years of college WITHOUT the 3-point line was 44 ppg.

Curry ain't ****in with that.. Maravich was taller, bigger and stronger, with greater athleticism - this was necessary to score in a rougher, more compacted/congested 2-point environment.
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Curry > MJ (Fact)
Pistol > Curry (According to you)
Therefore, Pistol > MJ

Damn! MJ is freefalling in the ATG rankings. :oldlol:

tmacattack33
12-21-2015, 02:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-JJX2SRHc&t=1m56s
http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/03/the-25-most-unbreakable-records-in-sports-history/15


Dale Brown (former coach of LSU) did play-by-play analysis on Pete Maravich's college games.

The analysis found that Pete would've averaged 13 three-point MAKES per game and 57 ppg.

Pete's career average in three years of college WITHOUT the 3-point line was 44 ppg.

Curry ain't ****in with that.. Maravich was taller, bigger and stronger, with greater athleticism - this was necessary to score in a rougher, more compacted/congested 2-point environment.
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College?

Stephen Curry is in the NBA.

3ball
12-21-2015, 02:51 PM
College?

Stephen Curry is in the NBA.
What were Curry's college stats - how did they compare to 57 ppg and 13 three-point makes per game
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Pushxx
12-21-2015, 03:02 PM
It's sad how his career ended in Boston. Fought so hard to get back in shape. It was too little too late. His relationship with Fitch had become toxic.

He was just worn out. If Maravich grew up in today's era he would be a fan favorite ala Curry.

Papaya Petee
12-21-2015, 04:23 PM
What were Curry's college stats - how did they compare to 57 ppg and 13 three-point makes per game
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Well lets see
Pistol Pete didn't make 13 3's a game
Jordan sucks
You have down syndrome.

3ball
12-21-2015, 04:50 PM
Well lets see
Pistol Pete didn't make 13 3's a game
Jordan sucks
You have down syndrome.
How do Curry's college stats WITH a 3-point line (and therefore much better spacing) compare to Maravich's 44.2 ppg WITHOUT a 3-point line (no spacing)?

The answer is obvious - Curry's performance DOESN'T compare.. that is all

SouBeachTalents
12-21-2015, 09:56 PM
OP is SHOOK that Currys team's gonna break Jordans win record

La Frescobaldi
12-21-2015, 10:37 PM
OP is SHOOK that Currys team's gonna break Jordans win record

i don't usually reply to op since he's such a pathetic L but this thread is another pathetic L.

only 1 player in the history of any level of basketball in America (and as far as we could find a few years back.... in the entire world) has done 50ppg for a season and that was done right in the NBA not some college league.

Even that player didn't do 50 in high school or college... he had to grow entirely up to get to his max ability.

sd3035
12-21-2015, 10:39 PM
lol Curry has 3ball shook

FireDavidKahn
12-22-2015, 12:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-JJX2SRHc&t=1m56s
http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/03/the-25-most-unbreakable-records-in-sports-history/15


Dale Brown (former coach of LSU) did play-by-play analysis on Pete Maravich's college games.

The analysis found that Pete would've averaged 13 three-point MAKES per game and 57 ppg.

Pete's career average in three years of college WITHOUT the 3-point line was 44 ppg.

Curry ain't ****in with that.. Maravich was taller, bigger and stronger, with greater athleticism - this was necessary to score in a rougher, more compacted/congested 2-point environment.
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Dude had a career FG% of 44% in the pros.:oldlol:

Curry's career 3P% is better, 44.2%, than Maravich's career FG%, 44.1%:facepalm

RRR3
12-22-2015, 12:25 AM
Not only is Curry better than Ordan at basketball, he is a better person too. Curry in MJ's weak ass era would probably average 45 PPG on 60/55/92

deja vu
12-22-2015, 12:28 AM
Agree.

He'd be Curry on steroids.

Better playmaker too.

ShaqTwizzle
12-22-2015, 12:28 AM
Reggie Miller dropped 32-ppg on 69%TS in a playoff series against the Knicks (#1 defense) in the early 90's but according to 3ball Curry would be a scrub back then...

La Frescobaldi
12-22-2015, 12:34 AM
Reggie Miller dropped 32-ppg on 69%TS in a playoff series against the Knicks (#1 defense) in the early 90's but according to 3ball Curry would be a scrub back then...

i love Miller but Curry > Reg

GrapeApe
12-22-2015, 01:15 AM
Not only is Curry better than Ordan at basketball, he is a better person too. Curry in MJ's weak ass era would probably average 45 PPG on 60/55/92

You're right about Curry being a better person. That is 100% not debatable. Jordan was and is one of the biggest assholes on earth. I grew up as a huge Jordan fan and I respect his abilities as a basketball player, but the guy is a pretty terrible human being.

PistolPete
12-22-2015, 01:38 AM
Pistol Pete was a hell of a player, but he was exposed at the NBA level.

Curry is much better.

Exposed? Hardly. Look up Pistol's healthy years in the NBA. The man was Magic before there was Magic Johnson.

If anything, Pistol is an enigma. He shouldn't have even been alive yet play for as long he did.

Goofsta Knicca
12-22-2015, 01:57 AM
Pistola Pedro Mariachiavich http://forums.serif.com/images/smilies_v2/sombrero.gif

oarabbus
12-22-2015, 03:50 AM
Pistol Pete was a badass. I have no doubt he'd be a top 5 PG today.

Would he be better than Curry? I'm not sure. I don't think so, but he'd certainly be able to do things that Curry cannot, especially with his passing. Guy was incredible go check out a Pistol highlight vid.

72-10
12-22-2015, 03:51 AM
Right, because they heavily defended a line that didn't exist. :rolleyes:

Pistol was a badass indeed, perhaps the og. But if this isn't the dumbest idea you've support an insecurity thread with it's up there.

Don't you realize with this idea you kinda prove curry supporters theory of how he'd still ball, with or without the line..

exactly my thoughts:cheers:

3ball
12-22-2015, 04:22 AM
Right, because they heavily defended a line that didn't exist.


In Maravich's era, 2-pointers is all that both teams had to score - those shots had to be defended - teams weren't letting each other score.

The ONLY reasonable assumption is that Maravich's 2-pointers were defended the same way his 3-pointers would be - otoh, your notion that guys weren't guarding his jumpshots is obviously pretty dumb.





Pistol was a badass indeed, perhaps the og. But if this isn't the dumbest idea you've support an insecurity thread with it's up there.


what's an og?.. that description of Maravich means nothing - it's your way of saying you don't respect his game (because you have no clue what you're watching when you watch basketball).

Also, this thread isn't dumb - it's NECESSARY to point out that Maravich made 13 shots from 19'9" or further (college 3-pointers) during his college career... unless you prefer the data to be a secret.





Don't you realize with this idea you kinda prove curry supporters theory of how he'd still ball, with or without the line..


How

In the 70's NBA, Curry's shots inside 20 feet would be far better contested, since defenders didn't have to guard the 3-point line (there was no 3-point line).. That's why DRtg was literally 10 points lower in the 70's - defenders guarded a smaller surface area (2-point area only)..

The lack of spacing along with tougher rules made the game much rougher and tougher.. Obviously, the fragile Curry is exact type of player that would fare worse under these conditions - we saw what happened when Dellevadova got rough with Curry... All of a sudden Curry was flustered and OC (out of control).
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72-10
12-22-2015, 04:24 AM
no they didn't it's a low percentage two point shot

just like defenses will not really regret letting a post player take a 20 footer because it's low percentage

3ball
12-22-2015, 04:30 AM
no they didn't it's a low percentage two point shot

just like defenses will not really regret letting a post player take a 20 footer because it's low percentage


you ethered yourself... a POST player... not Maravich dumbass.

you're the same idiot that said the 96' Bulls were stacked like the 86' Celtics:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11971685&postcount=11

72-10
12-22-2015, 04:35 AM
you ethered yourself... a POST player... not Maravich dumbass.

you're the same idiot that said the 96' Bulls were stacked like the 86' Celtics:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11971685&postcount=11

you completely missed the point

i cited an example, pretty sure they weren't guarding Maravich tight on shots that far out considering that they were low percentage and worth two points

and the '96 Bulls were stacked, not quite like the Cs but pretty darn close

but thanks for the insult:applause:

72-10
12-22-2015, 04:39 AM
:facepalm

72-10
12-22-2015, 04:46 AM
:face palm you should reread what i wrote before replying

Smoke117
12-22-2015, 04:47 AM
Somebody get his grandmother to hook up with 3ball...I'm exasperated with this old piece of shit.

3ball
12-22-2015, 04:52 AM
:face palm you should reread what i wrote before replying
You post like a bitch because you don't quote what you trying to respond to.. You make the original poster guess what you're responding to.

It's a passive, bitch move - you're just scared to engage too specifically and risk getting ethered like you did with the Celtics/Bulls comparison.

warriorfan
12-22-2015, 04:59 AM
Pistol Pete played against all white competition in College.

Smoke117
12-22-2015, 05:03 AM
I have to give a round of a hand to 3ball though...this old man has picked up all the worst attributes of the teenagers in this day...the guy runs his chapped mouth with the best of them.

3ball
12-22-2015, 05:21 AM
Pistol Pete played against all white competition in College.
nice.. NCAA was fully-integrated long before Maravich played college ball.

also, if Maravich played against white players, so did Kareem... yet his college career is used as a basis to say his hoops career > Jordan's...

it always comes back to the goat in the end
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TripleA
12-22-2015, 05:26 AM
http://www.thelocalvoice.net/TLV-pages/athletics/sportsphotos/Neumann_johnny-250.jpg

Johnny Neaumann>Steph Curry
The guy averaged 40 in college.
Would average 50 with the three point line.

TripleA
12-22-2015, 05:44 AM
http://goldenrankings.com/bngolden2/BoLamar.jpg

Bo Lamar>Curry
He had 36 in his junior year that would be 46 with the three point line.

3ball
12-22-2015, 05:53 AM
Bo Lamar>Curry
He had 36 in his junior year that would be 46 with the three point line.


Did they document Bo or Neuman making 13 shots per game outside of 19'9" (college 3-point distance)?

If not, then your post is irrelevant - the point of the thread is to show that Maravich made 13 shots per game that were 3-point distance.

And the ONLY reasonable assumption is that Maravich's 2-pointers were defended the same way his 3-pointers would be - your notion that defenders weren't guarding a 44 ppg white boy's jumpshots is a very dumb assumption by comparison.
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3ball
12-22-2015, 05:58 AM
pretty sure they weren't guarding Maravich tight on shots that far out considering that they were low percentage and worth two points


The ONLY reasonable assumption is that Maravich's 13 would-be three-pointers would be defended the same way ACTUAL 3-point attempts would be - your notion that guys weren't guarding a 44 ppg white boy's jumpshots is a very dumb assumption by comparison.

Also, you don't understand how the NBA game worked.. Players rarely took 24 footers back then since there was no 3-point line.. A long jumpshot was a 20-footer, which means defenders didn't have to extend as far out - they guarded a smaller surface area and contested shots better..

That's why DRtg was literally 10 points lower in the 70's - defenders guarded a smaller surface area (2-point area only)..

The lack of spacing along with tougher rules made the game much rougher.. Obviously, the fragile Curry is exact type of player that would fare worse under these conditions - we saw what happened when Dellevadova got rough with Curry... All of a sudden Curry was flustered and OC (out of control).

TripleA
12-22-2015, 06:17 AM
http://i.imgur.com/lGEMVEZ.png

Johnny Neaumann>Maravich

Bigger,Stronger,better off ball, and better inside

Johnny Neaumann is the goat.

3ball
12-22-2015, 06:32 AM
Johnny Neaumann>Maravich

Bigger,Stronger,better off ball, and better inside


Neuman's college stats aren't relevant because he was nothing in the NBA - he was an 4 ppg player.

Otoh, Maravich averaged 25/5/6 for 7 seasons from 1971-1977... He was also a first team all-nba twice and second team twice, and a 5-time all-star.

So forget Neuaman - this thread is about how Maravich made 13 shots per game in college that were 3-point distance.. And again, the ONLY reasonable assumption is that Maravich's 13 would-be three-pointers would be defended the same way ACTUAL 3-point attempts would be - your notion that guys weren't guarding a 44 ppg white boy's jumpshots is a very dumb assumption by comparison.
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TripleA
12-22-2015, 06:40 AM
Johnny Neumann>Pete Maravich>Steph Curry
Neaumann would be the goat if he played today.
His shot is butter saw it live.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 07:02 AM
Mildly to considerably interesting info, terrible conclusion.

Classic 3ball.

Spurs5Rings2014
12-22-2015, 08:00 AM
Jordan just fell out my top 5.

sdot_thadon
12-22-2015, 08:52 AM
In Maravich's era, 2-pointers is all that both teams had to score - those shots had to be defended - teams weren't letting each other score.

The ONLY reasonable assumption is that Maravich's 2-pointers were defended the same way his 3-pointers would be - otoh, your notion that guys weren't guarding his jumpshots is obviously pretty dumb.
3ball,I understand you're an idiot and the more of your posts i see the more I think it's actually out of your control but dude......if nobody tightly defended 3s in the 80s and 90s when they actually counted why in the hell would you think they guarded those tightly. Nobody believes this nonsense outside of you.


what's an og?.. that description of Maravich means nothing - it's your way of saying you don't respect his game (because you have no clue what you're watching when you watch basketball). man, please don't play that game. What was your old screen name?


Also, this thread isn't dumb - it's NECESSARY to point out that Maravich made 13 shots from 19'9" or further (college 3-pointers) during his college career... unless you prefer the data to be a secret.
Also this thread is particularly stupid. Like plenty of others stated. Interesting facts, imbecilic conclusion.



How

In the 70's NBA, Curry's shots inside 20 feet would be far better contested, since defenders didn't have to guard the 3-point line (there was no 3-point line).. That's why DRtg was literally 10 points lower in the 70's - defenders guarded a smaller surface area (2-point area only)..

The lack of spacing along with tougher rules made the game much rougher and tougher.. Obviously, the fragile Curry is exact type of player that would fare worse under these conditions - we saw what happened when Dellevadova got rough with Curry... All of a sudden Curry was flustered and OC (out of control).
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Ummm let's see, how about if pistol made 13 3s in an era where there wasn't even a line why couldn't curry take his usual shots. Who says that since there isn't a line that all of a sudden he must shoot closer. He's fvcking steph curry man. He would shoot his usual shots with even less pressure. Logic definitely isn't a strength of yours bro.

Smoke117
12-22-2015, 08:53 AM
I wish you could have a heart attack and your kids would put you in a convalescent home, 3ball. (with no internet)

Nuff Said
12-22-2015, 10:27 AM
I too have to ask, why would they not guard tightly a man who averages 44 ppg shooting from far away? I can understand them not guarding Kendrick Perkins from that far but a guy averaging 44 ppg taking hella outside shots? You gotta think they'd be playing some kind of defense on him if he's making that many shots there.

3ball
12-22-2015, 02:25 PM
I too have to ask, why would they not guard tightly a man who averages 44 ppg shooting from far away? I can understand them not guarding Kendrick Perkins from that far but a guy averaging 44 ppg taking hella outside shots? You gotta think they'd be playing some kind of defense on him if he's making that many shots there.


Exactly - the ONLY reasonable assumption is that Maravich's 13 would-be three-pointers would be defended the same way ACTUAL 3-point attempts would be - the contrary assumption that defenders weren't guarding the jumpshots of a 44 ppg white boy is a very dumb assumption by comparison..

But weak posters like thadork, triple A and the like are just in denial, which requires them to say nonsensical things, with conviction I might add, which makes it even more amusing.
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TripleA
12-22-2015, 04:16 PM
Exactly - the ONLY reasonable assumption is that Maravich's 13 would-be three-pointers would be defended the same way ACTUAL 3-point attempts would be - the contrary assumption that defenders weren't guarding the jumpshots of a 44 ppg white boy is a very dumb assumption by comparison..

But weak posters like thadork, triple A and the like are just in denial, which requires them to say nonsensical things, with conviction I might add, which makes it even more amusing.
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I have never said that they weren't guarding his jump shots I'm just saying Johnny Neaumann is better. That nigguh had a post game. He was beefy. Understood the team concept and got his stats in the flow of the game instead of playing disgusting playground ball like Pistol Pete. Better off-ball player too.
:facepalm If your simple mind can't understand that you need to read up wippersnapper.

3ball
12-22-2015, 04:19 PM
I have never said that they weren't guarding his jump shots I'm just saying Johnny Neaumann is better. That nigguh had a post game. He was beefy. Understood the team concept and got his stats in the flow of the game instead of playing disgusting playground ball like Pistol Pete. Better off-ball player too.
:facepalm If your simple mind can't understand that you need to read up wippersnapper.
Neuman's college stats aren't relevant or reflective of his ability because he was nothing in the NBA - he was an 4 ppg player in NBA.

Otoh, Maravich averaged 25/5/6 in the NBA for 7 seasons (1971-1977), so his college stats ARE reflective of his ability... He was also a first team all-nba twice and second team twice, and a 5-time all-star.

So forget Neuaman - this thread is about how Maravich made 13 shots per game in college that were 3-point distance..

And again, the ONLY reasonable assumption is that Pete's would-be three-pointers would be defended the same way ACTUAL 3-point attempts would be - the contrary assumption that defenders weren't guarding the jumpshots of a 44 ppg white boy is a very dumb assumption by comparison.
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TripleA
01-01-2016, 10:08 PM
Neaumann>Maravich