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oarabbus
12-21-2015, 06:38 PM
https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/679022558683881472

dazzer87
12-21-2015, 06:39 PM
FT35........:applause:

Fudge
12-21-2015, 06:40 PM
King Kev not afraid to speak his mind. :applause:

Ariza4three
12-21-2015, 06:44 PM
Best player in the world. :applause:

Sportal
12-21-2015, 06:46 PM
Get paid millions, can't hit the easiest shot in the game..

Akrazotile
12-21-2015, 06:48 PM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.

KirbyPls
12-21-2015, 06:50 PM
KD has taken KG's title as the league's fake tough guy. :lol

dabigbaws
12-21-2015, 06:57 PM
Alpha.

r0drig0lac
12-21-2015, 06:58 PM
:applause: :bowdown:

RoseCity07
12-21-2015, 07:03 PM
I know making a FT in a game is harder than when you're in a gym shooting but I know for god damn sure I'm a better ft shooter than DeAndre Jordan or a few other centers.

After I missed say, 3 in a row, once I make the first one I wouldn't miss. There would never be a 10-30 night. Probably 25-30.

It's pathetic that an NBA player can't get into a rhythm with so many attempts.

$LakerGold
12-21-2015, 07:23 PM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.
Love the logic. :facepalm

Crown&Coke
12-21-2015, 07:24 PM
If 1 point per possession is considered a good offense, you need to shoot 50% from the line

If these dudes can't hit 50% they deserve to ride the pine during the times the opposition is hacking

34-24 Footwork
12-21-2015, 07:25 PM
Love the logic. :facepalm

Right. Some people on here have NEVER touched a basketball let alone shot a free throw.

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 07:35 PM
lets see KD say that in the presence of DeAndre :oldlol:

Spurs m8
12-21-2015, 08:00 PM
KD is the ****ing man.

None of this passive aggressive Bron shit

DMAVS41
12-21-2015, 08:04 PM
The problem with this is that it's not always work ethic...

Certain guys just aren't going to be good ft shooters regardless of how much time they put in.

Intentionally fouling someone, especially off the ball, should result in a penalty in my opinion.

JerrySeinfeld
12-21-2015, 08:11 PM
The problem with this is that it's not always work ethic...

Certain guys just aren't going to be good ft shooters regardless of how much time they put in.

Intentionally fouling someone, especially off the ball, should result in a penalty in my opinion.

How hard could it really be for these guys to adpot Rick Barry's FT form (underhand/grandma style) and practice until they got 60% with it?

Saying this because it seems to be easier for those with huge hands, and the very simple motion of it seems to be easier to execute with consistency.

Seems like dudes avoiding making the jump to that FT form because they worried about they image :coleman:

Ariza4three
12-21-2015, 08:12 PM
The problem with this is that it's not always work ethic...

Certain guys just aren't going to be good ft shooters regardless of how much time they put in.

Intentionally fouling someone, especially off the ball, should result in a penalty in my opinion.
They can shoot under hand a la Rick Barry. If something is not working out, then they need to find a problem and fix it. There would be no hack a player if the player can shoot freethrows.

Simple.

Although hacking a player off ball isn't the way to play basketball, it would basically never need to come down to the situation when these players get paid millions of dollars just to shoot a fcking freethrow while being unguarded. Fcking player gets paid to have the time to practice. Fcking coaches get paid to teach the player.

JerrySeinfeld
12-21-2015, 08:16 PM
They can shoot under hand a la Rick Barry. If something is not working out, then they need to find a problem and fix it. There would be no hack a player if the player can shoot freethrows.

Simple.

Although hacking a player off ball isn't the way to play basketball, it would basically never need to come down to the situation when these players get paid millions of dollars just to shoot a fcking freethrow while being unguarded. Fcking player gets paid. Fcking coaches get paid to teach the player.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. People are acting like this is little league saying "oh, some players just aren't good at shooting free throws"

This is supposed to be the highest level basketball league in the world, dudes like DeAndre are getting paid 20M a year and we're supposed to believe there is some sort of skill block he has that prevents him from ever becoming even a 50% FT shooter? I just don't see it.

Ariza4three
12-21-2015, 08:22 PM
Yeah that's what I'm saying. People are acting like this is little league saying "oh, some players just aren't good at shooting free throws"

This is supposed to be the highest level basketball league in the world, dudes like DeAndre are getting paid 20M a year and we're supposed to believe there is some sort of skill block he has that prevents him from ever becoming even a 50% FT shooter? I just don't see it.
:applause:

Yao Ming and Karl Anthony Towns don't seem to have this problem, so why should any player get an advantage just because they can't be decent at a crucial FUNDAMENTAL part of the game.

If you have weaknesses that's fine; every player has them. Work on your fcking game and lessen the weakness. They literally get YEARS to practice. Can't shoot with more arc? Then go underhand. Always hitting the back end of the iron? Either move back or use the backboard to make your freethrows. It's not rocket science. :facepalm

Olajuwon and David Robinson doesn't have the problem either.

sd3035
12-21-2015, 08:26 PM
Durant has become the toughest guy in the world

Look for him to drop at least 50 tonight in 3 quarters

Kobe_6/8
12-21-2015, 08:29 PM
Every player has a weakness...for some it's free throws.

DMV2
12-21-2015, 08:29 PM
with exception to Prime Shaq. Imagine if Shaq was a good FT shooter? easily the GOAT!!!

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 08:31 PM
:applause:

Yao Ming and Karl Anthony Towns don't seem to have this problem, so why should any player get an advantage just because they can't be decent at a crucial FUNDAMENTAL of the game.

If you have weaknesses that's fine; every player has them. Work on your fcking game and lessen the weakness. They literally get YEARS to practice. Can't shoot with more arc? Then go underhand. Always hitting the back end of the iron? Either move back or use the backboard to make your freethrows. It's not rocket science. :facepalm

Olajuwon and David Robinson doesn't have the problem either.

DeAndre Jordan just isn't as good as Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson.

God gave him size, but not great talent, competitiveness, or the "it" factor.

Everyone can't hit the full jackpot in the genetic lotto. Just like how God didn't make you 7 feet tall, God made it so DeAndre can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it. It's easy to say "If I was DeAndre Jordan I would do X", but that is not how it really works. It is what it is, you just gotta deal with it.

JerrySeinfeld
12-21-2015, 08:37 PM
DeAndre Jordan just isn't as good as Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson.

God gave him size, but not great talent, competitiveness, or the "it" factor.

Everyone can't hit the full jackpot in the genetic lotto. Just like how God didn't make you 7 feet tall, God made it so DeAndre can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it. It's easy to say "If I was DeAndre Jordan I would do X", but that is not how it really works. It is what it is, you just gotta deal with it.

Is there any reason why he (or others with the same problem) haven't tried FT's the Rick Barry way yet though?

Seems like a no brainer option for guys like DeAndre with long ass arms and big hands.

sd3035
12-21-2015, 08:39 PM
Dirk is a big guy

Ariza4three
12-21-2015, 08:40 PM
DeAndre Jordan just isn't as good as Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson.

God gave him size, but not great talent, competitiveness, or the "it" factor.

Everyone can't hit the full jackpot in the genetic lotto. Just like how God didn't make you 7 feet tall, God made it so DeAndre can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it. It's easy to say "If I was DeAndre Jordan I would do X", but that is not how it really works. It is what it is, you just gotta deal with it.
Sure using great all-time players isn't an ideal example, but there should be absolutely no excuse for them to shoot such a putrid percentage.

If I gotta deal with their poor freethrow shooting, that's fine, but I could say you gotta deal with the hack a player calls too. :confusedshrug: It's not a pleasant strategy, but a working strategy that can potentially win you games.

I don't see poor freethrow shooting players trying different techniques or ways to enhance their %. No one does underhand at all. No backboard attempt at free throws. People say they shoot way better at practice. That's good to hear. Now find a way to translate that into games. There's going to be games where you're not going to shoot well on freethrows...it happens. Poor freethrow shooting shouldn't happen every single game out of the 82 games though. If it's fatigue and you keep missing, then find an alternative method where you can still hit freethrows at a decent clip. You don't have to shoot the freethrow right away. You can try and milk the time as much as possible like Jermaine O'Neal

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 08:49 PM
Is there any reason why he (or others with the same problem) haven't tried FT's the Rick Barry way yet though?

Seems like a no brainer option for guys like DeAndre with long ass arms and big hands.

I'm pretty sure you would be embarassed posting a video of yourself shooting granny shots on ISH, never the less doing it live in front of millions of people.

These guys are just like you and me, they don't want to go out there and be that 7 foot lurch looking fuccing dork that is shooting grandma shots. Image is very important in our society, even more important than results in most cases.

!@#$%Vectors!@#
12-21-2015, 08:53 PM
idk why they won't use Barrys method. It's literally the difference from being a championship caliber team.

Even Iggy
Ezeli
Bogut

should do this.

k0kakw0rld
12-21-2015, 08:54 PM
Best player in the world. :applause:
:lol

JerrySeinfeld
12-21-2015, 09:03 PM
I'm pretty sure you would be embarassed posting a video of yourself shooting granny shots on ISH, never the less doing it live in front of millions of people.

These guys are just like you and me, they don't want to go out there and be that 7 foot lurch looking fuccing dork that is shooting grandma shots. Image is very important in our society, even more important than results in most cases.

I get that, but when you are getting paid millions of dollars to do your job and help your team win games, being concerned about your image over winning seems so childish

!@#$%Vectors!@#
12-21-2015, 09:05 PM
I get that, but when you are getting paid millions of dollars to do your job and help your team win games, being concerned about your image over winning seems so childish

this. If I could play basketball I would freethrows after doing a clown dance if it meant hitting them.

oarabbus
12-21-2015, 09:05 PM
I'm pretty sure you would be embarassed posting a video of yourself shooting granny shots on ISH, never the less doing it live in front of millions of people.

These guys are just like you and me, they don't want to go out there and be that 7 foot lurch looking fuccing dork that is shooting grandma shots. Image is very important in our society, even more important than results in most cases.


The guy is 7' tall. What is anyone gonna do to DJ lol, they're definitely not gonna say shit to his face.

And shouldn't they care about winning the ring over anything? Just imagine how much better DJ is if he shoots 75% granny style

stalkerforlife
12-21-2015, 09:09 PM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.

So this guy plagiarizes and has the worst logic.

:applause:

sammichoffate
12-21-2015, 09:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg

DMAVS41
12-21-2015, 09:20 PM
DeAndre Jordan just isn't as good as Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson.

God gave him size, but not great talent, competitiveness, or the "it" factor.

Everyone can't hit the full jackpot in the genetic lotto. Just like how God didn't make you 7 feet tall, God made it so DeAndre can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it. It's easy to say "If I was DeAndre Jordan I would do X", but that is not how it really works. It is what it is, you just gotta deal with it.

This.

It's so much harder than people on here realize. Even really good shooters that played in college, but weren't NBA level players wouldn't shoot better than like 75% within games.

Shooting free throws within games and under pressure is so much harder than is being let on here.

You can easily be a 90% ft shooter in practice and a 70% ft shooter in the games.

deja vu
12-21-2015, 09:23 PM
It's almost impossible for a terrible free throw shooter to become a decent one. You think that the likes of Wilt, Shaq, DeAndre, didn't work on their free throws and still fail?

BigMacAttack
12-21-2015, 09:28 PM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.

Except you know...shooting can actually be improved with practice. Growing taller however, can not be. Once you are done growing all the practice in the world isn't going to make you taller. Other than that great logic though..:rolleyes:

DMAVS41
12-21-2015, 09:31 PM
Except you know...shooting can actually be improved with practice. Growing taller however, can not be. Once you are done growing all the practice in the world isn't going to make you taller. Other than that great logic though..:rolleyes:

Yes, you obviously have more control over ft shooting than height...LOL

However, there is a ceiling to this stuff for every player

DJ could practice his ft's more than everyone ever and he'd still never crack being a good ft shooter

It's just not that simple...

JerrySeinfeld
12-21-2015, 09:33 PM
Yes, you obviously have more control over ft shooting than height...LOL

However, there is a ceiling to this stuff for every player

DJ could practice his ft's more than everyone ever and he'd still never crack being a good ft shooter

It's just not that simple...

there is a ceiling yet Karl Malone went from sub 50% FT shooter to 70% in like a year?

BigMacAttack
12-21-2015, 09:35 PM
The problem with this is that it's not always work ethic...

Certain guys just aren't going to be good ft shooters regardless of how much time they put in.

Intentionally fouling someone, especially off the ball, should result in a penalty in my opinion.


Not everyone can be really good but everyone can improve with more/better practice.

You think someone with Kobe Bryants ethic and mentality would ever shoot below 70 percent on FTs? Give him any physical attributes you want, DJ, shaq, Dwight...I don't care if he had no arms he would put in work and figure it out.

Blue&Orange
12-21-2015, 09:35 PM
This.

It's so much harder than people on here realize. Even really good shooters that played in college, but weren't NBA level players wouldn't shoot better than like 75% within games.

Shooting free throws within games and under pressure is so much harder than is being let on here.

You can easily be a 90% ft shooter in practice and a 70% ft shooter in the games.
So what are you saying, they are p.ussies?

Why so many excuses? big hands, pressure, etc..

You know what should be a penalty play someone that absolutely can't play the game just because he is tall. Oh wait... there's one already :rolleyes:

BigMacAttack
12-21-2015, 09:37 PM
Yes, you obviously have more control over ft shooting than height...LOL

However, there is a ceiling to this stuff for every player

DJ could practice his ft's more than everyone ever and he'd still never crack being a good ft shooter

It's just not that simple...


I agree there would be a ceiling but I don't think DJ or Dwight or Shaq or any of these phenomenally bad shooters are close to theirs.

A lot of the guys who are really bad are these 7 footers blessed with amazing athletic ability like the 3 above or Wilt or Andre Drummond. I find it hard to believe guys gifted with that sort of height and athletic abilty have really busted their ass to improve their FTs year after year.

jstern
12-21-2015, 09:41 PM
Players sound ignorant when they curse casually for the media.

TommyGriffin
12-21-2015, 09:43 PM
What about LeBron James? LeBron James is supposed to be one of the best players in the world and has a career free throw percentage of 74%? 74% is pretty a pretty damn shitty free throw percentage. You would think that LeBron James would be able to practice more since the Cavs spent 200 million dollars on his team, he should be able to hit 3/4ths of his Free Throws. Yeah?

deja vu
12-21-2015, 09:43 PM
there is a ceiling yet Karl Malone went from sub 50% FT shooter to 70% in like a year?
Must have been his funny free throw shooting routine.

DMAVS41
12-21-2015, 09:46 PM
Not everyone can be really good but everyone can improve with more/better practice.

You think someone with Kobe Bryants ethic and mentality would ever shoot below 70 percent on FTs? Give him any physical attributes you want, DJ, shaq, Dwight...I don't care if he had no arms he would put in work and figure it out.

Yes...I do...there are certain people that are tall, lack coordination, and have huge hands that will never shoot above 70% in games.

Again, you clowns don't realize how hard that is to do within games even for really good shooters.

Like...it is so much harder than you guys are letting on.

Kobe Bryant himself is a 84% ft shooter for his career...and he's in rhythm all game by shooting a lot from range. Are you saying Kobe lacks work ethic to be a 90% ft shooter?

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 09:48 PM
there is a ceiling yet Karl Malone went from sub 50% FT shooter to 70% in like a year?

Karl Malone isn't really a great example to use.

"Hey man, why can't DeAndre Jordan be like the 2nd leading scorer in NBA history?" :lol

Karl Malone is an extreme outlier, you can't expect everyone to follow the exact same career arc as Karl Malone...

BigMacAttack
12-21-2015, 10:07 PM
Yes...I do...there are certain people that are tall, lack coordination, and have huge hands that will never shoot above 70% in games.

Again, you clowns don't realize how hard that is to do within games even for really good shooters.

Like...it is so much harder than you guys are letting on.

Kobe Bryant himself is a 84% ft shooter for his career...and he's in rhythm all game by shooting a lot from range. Are you saying Kobe lacks work ethic to be a 90% ft shooter?

Oh wow so you must be the only guy here who has shot FTs in an actual game? Lol gtfo you muppet....I'd say Kobe could of got to 90 percent if he worked more at it but for the amount of work he would had to do compared to the benefit you get going from 84 percent to 90 percent it just wasn't worth it. Its a bit different when you are getting sat in the fourth because you are getting hacked and cant hit shit from the line.

If you are trying to tell me Jordan is at his limit for FT shooting just move the **** on. I suppose Shaq a notoriously hard worker also got to his limit on FTs?

DMAVS41
12-21-2015, 10:10 PM
Oh wow so you must be the only guy here who has shot FTs in an actual game? Lol gtfo you muppet....I'd say Kobe could of got to 90 percent if he worked more at it but for the amount of work he would had to do compared to the benefit you get going from 84 percent to 90 percent it just wasn't worth it. Its a bit different when you are getting sat in the fourth because you are getting hacked and get hit shit from the line.

What I have or haven't done is not the point...

It's just simple logic...go to any practice at college or pro and you are going to see guys that rarely miss from the ft line when they shoot

Yet, when they get in games, that percentage drops...quite considerably a lot of times....

I'm not saying they can't improve a little...of course there is always room to improve, but certain guys are always going to be on the level of "should we hack them to put them on the line"

I, personally, don't think intentionally fouling someone off the ball should be allowed in basketball....both from the integrity of the game standpoint and how terrible it is to watch standpoint

BigMacAttack
12-21-2015, 10:19 PM
What I have or haven't done is not the point...

It's just simple logic...go to any practice at college or pro and you are going to see guys that rarely miss from the ft line when they shoot

Yet, when they get in games, that percentage drops...quite considerably a lot of times....

I'm not saying they can't improve a little...of course there is always room to improve, but certain guys are always going to be on the level of "should we hack them to put them on the line"

I, personally, don't think intentionally fouling someone off the ball should be allowed in basketball....both from the integrity of the game standpoint and how terrible it is to watch standpoint

I don't like watching it either but I don't think there are many NBA athletes who couldn't get up to a half decent range if they worked at it. Yes in game is very difficult compared to practice but that is just another side of it, these guys have nba resources, they can improve on the mental aspect of it if they are commited to it.

DMAVS41
12-21-2015, 10:26 PM
I don't like watching it either but I don't think there are many NBA athletes who couldn't get up to a half decent range if they worked at it. Yes in game is very difficult compared to practice but that is just another side of it, these guys have nba resources, they can improve on the mental aspect of it if they are commited to it.

Who is saying the average player can't improve? Like...I said...of course there is room for improvement. This isn't about the average player though.

This is about a very small percentage of players that are just naturally terrible at ft shooting. Could some of them improve? Of course, but it would be in the single digits percentage wise most likely for most of them.

Would that be enough to prevent intentional fouling? I don't really know...

My points are simple:

1. Intentional fouling off the ball shouldn't be allowed without a penalty regardless

2. It's horrible to watch and ruins the flow of the games

3. Some guys simply will never be able to shoot well from the ft lines within games...regardless of how hard they work

tpols
12-21-2015, 10:49 PM
I agree with KD.. no excuse to shoot less than 50%.

I believe shaq had a legitimate problem with his wrist.. any athletic center like Jordan, Dwight, etc should be able to make more than half of their free throws. It's pathetic that they play a sport defined by putting a ball in a basket and they cant do it, even half the time, unguarded from 15 feet away. It's absurd.

TripleA
12-21-2015, 11:59 PM
You can make 55% of your free throws hacking become useless.
I think that's possible for every NBA player. It isn't 75%

Goofsta Knicca
12-22-2015, 12:04 AM
this. If I could play basketball I would freethrows after doing a clown dance if it meant hitting them.

Would you stand there and beat yo meat? Granny shots is pretty much da same thing.

RRR3
12-22-2015, 12:04 AM
Duh-uhhhh...What about LeBron James? duhhhhh....LeBron James is supposed to be one of the best players in the world and has a career free throw percentage of 74%? HURRR DURRRRR.....74% is pretty a pretty damn shitty free throw percentage. uh duh DURRR DERP...You would think that LeBron James would be able to practice more since the Cavs spent 200 million dollars on his team, he should be able to hit 3/4ths of his Free Throws. Yeah? DURRRRRRR
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm:


LeBron has been a guy who generally hits 3 out of every 4 fts he gets. That's fine, and if you want to hack him, you're brain dead.

$LakerGold
12-22-2015, 02:09 AM
Yes, you obviously have more control over ft shooting than height...LOL

However, there is a ceiling to this stuff for every player

DJ could practice his ft's more than everyone ever and he'd still never crack being a good ft shooter

It's just not that simple...
Yeah, it's not that simple, but, tough shit. Every player has its pros and cons. It would be wise of the coach to sub out the player. I don't understand why people would even consider changing the rules to cater to entertainment, they're competing. It's strategic. They're getting paid millions to dribble & shoot a ball. :facepalm

Kobe & MJ will be rolling in their graves.

I can't even...

KOBEtherealKing
12-22-2015, 02:12 AM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.

No it's not, how is growing equivalent to practicing shooting? Let's not act 4-5rpg is not average for a pg/sg which is good for those positions. Like Roy tumble over Hibbert and Has a 7 boards for a career average, he can't grow taller he needs to practice boxing out.

k0kakw0rld
12-22-2015, 02:14 AM
KD is the ****ing man.

None of this passive aggressive Bron shit
None of this passive aggressive huh? Now tell me whos more alpha? Westbrook or Durant? :confusedshrug:

AirBonner
12-22-2015, 03:22 AM
None of this passive aggressive huh? Now tell me whos more alpha? Westbrook or Durant? :confusedshrug:
Westbrook easily. Lol at at KD being a tough guy for posting on twitter smh. What he did was passive

oarabbus
12-22-2015, 03:44 AM
Who is saying the average player can't improve? Like...I said...of course there is room for improvement. This isn't about the average player though.

This is about a very small percentage of players that are just naturally terrible at ft shooting. Could some of them improve? Of course, but it would be in the single digits percentage wise most likely for most of them.

Would that be enough to prevent intentional fouling? I don't really know...

My points are simple:

1. Intentional fouling off the ball shouldn't be allowed without a penalty regardless

2. It's horrible to watch and ruins the flow of the games

3. Some guys simply will never be able to shoot well from the ft lines within games...regardless of how hard they work

So what? Then they suck at ft shooting and its a fundamental weakness in their game. One guy may naturally not have a jumper, another guy might be innately terrible on defense, why should you get a special pass for shooting free throws?

Black and White
12-22-2015, 03:56 AM
I agree with KD, you get paid millions of dollars to play this game, this is what you do, those that want it bad enough will put the work in to get better.

Look at LeBron and his evolving post game for example, or Kobe, players like them put the work in to get better.

Why complain when a team wants to exploit your obvious weakness?

bigkingsfan
12-22-2015, 04:09 AM
I don't understand why people would even consider changing the rules to cater to entertainment, they're competing. It's strategic.

They already did with the 24 second shot clock.

72-10
12-22-2015, 04:20 AM
It's easy to say that when you are gifted at shooting and make 88% of your free throws or whatever his rate is. Without question, practicing shooting improves it, but there is a limit, and KD has come pretty close to it. Guess we'll never know why bigs have so much trouble from the line.

$LakerGold
12-22-2015, 04:57 AM
They already did with the 24 second shot clock.
It's completely understandable as long as the change affects everyone. Passing the ball around for a minute is mentally tiring, no one's going to put up with that. The game is already soft as it is & now people want to implement this rule? :facepalm Laziest of the laziest.

Smoke117
12-22-2015, 05:00 AM
Frankly...when your nickname is "the servant" and you are a lesser players bitch (Westbrick) you should probably keep your mouth shut.

Manila
12-22-2015, 06:52 AM
While reading this thread, I came up with an idea to prevent the game for turning in to just intentionally fouling the players.

How about the league implement a "Free throw substitute"

Wherein if a specific player is intentionally fouled for more than 3x, the team is allowed to replace the fouled player during free throws, to shoot for the team, granted that the intentional foul is with the same person for 4x and above.

buddha
12-22-2015, 07:19 AM
Get paid millions, can't hit the easiest shot in the game..

the dunk is the easiest shot in the game.

dunksby
12-22-2015, 07:19 AM
FT = Free Throw, nobody in your face, nobody in the lane, it's just you and the rim. Keep pretending shooting FTs are the same as rebounding, shooting, blocking etc.

Harison
12-22-2015, 07:24 AM
Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.

Shoot granny style, anyone and their mothers can learn to hit FT with respectable % through practice.

Some poor FT shooters like Dwight makes excellently in practice, cant hit in the game. Its mental too.

buddha
12-22-2015, 07:25 AM
It's completely understandable as long as the change affects everyone. Passing the ball around for a minute is mentally tiring, no one's going to put up with that. The game is already soft as it is & now people want to implement this rule? :facepalm Laziest of the laziest.

are you retarded? professional sports are entertainment business. if you actually like watching a bad free throw shooter shoot free throws for a half hour then you are mentally ill. if hacking people is causing boring games, causing fans to change the channel, you best believe the execs are going to notice their money being effected and are going to look for a solution to the problem.. luckily it's a very simple fix, ban hacking.

lol if you think stuff like the 3 second rule, three point line, shot clock and no hand checking was added to make a fairer more competitive game, all those rules were made to make a more entertaining product.

VengefulAngel
12-22-2015, 07:25 AM
FT = Free Throw, nobody in your face, nobody in the lane, it's just you and the rim. Keep pretending shooting FTs are the same as rebounding, shooting, blocking etc.

I agree 100 percent, but free throw shooting is a skill, we can't act like everyone is going to be a 90% FT shooter in game. But is inexcusable to shoot anything below 60%, it's shocking how so many professionals struggle so much.

buddha
12-22-2015, 07:32 AM
FT = Free Throw, nobody in your face, nobody in the lane, it's just you and the rim. Keep pretending shooting FTs are the same as rebounding, shooting, blocking etc.

you, the rim and fifteen feet of distance plus a few feet of height when the ball leaves your hand..

during a dunk, the rim is exactly zero inches away when the ball leaves your hands.

TommyGriffin
12-22-2015, 08:04 AM
KD is thin.

dunksby
12-22-2015, 09:03 AM
you, the rim and fifteen feet of distance plus a few feet of height when the ball leaves your hand..

during a dunk, the rim is exactly zero inches away when the ball leaves your hands.
You drunk?

SpaceJam
12-22-2015, 09:14 AM
Westbrook easily. Lol at at KD being a tough guy for posting on twitter smh. What he did was passive

KD didn't tweet that.... :biggums:

Also he is right, or stop being so shook at the line like a bish

Doesn't Dwight shot like 80% from the FT line in practice

ArbitraryWater
12-22-2015, 09:50 AM
I agree with KD, you get paid millions of dollars to play this game, this is what you do, those that want it bad enough will put the work in to get better.

Look at LeBron and his evolving post game for example, or Kobe, players like them put the work in to get better.

Why complain when a team wants to exploit your obvious weakness?

You don't know much about much, do you

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 10:02 AM
So what? Then they suck at ft shooting and its a fundamental weakness in their game. One guy may naturally not have a jumper, another guy might be innately terrible on defense, why should you get a special pass for shooting free throws?

Special pass? What?

They still have to shoot ft's when they get fouled like any player.

The "special pass" is allowing teams to intentionally foul a player off the ball and it not resulting in a penalty.

One could just as easily say....why should a bad defense be allowed to intentionally foul a player. Why can't they just defend the team like everyone else does?

In most other forms of basketball...an intentional foul, especially off the ball, is a penalty and results in shots and the ball.

Basketball is not a game that was designed to have people intentionally fouling other players. Yes, in certain circumstances when a player is about to get a dunk...taking a hard foul is allowed, but that is within the flow of the game. Grabbing a guy at half court outside the flow of the game isn't.

I don't care if everyone shot 90%...I'd still be against out of principle and because it ****ing ruins the flow of games and is terrible to watch.

24-Inch_Chrome
12-22-2015, 10:26 AM
He's right. :confusedshrug:

FreezingTsmoove
12-22-2015, 01:07 PM
Chris Paul has openly criticized DJs work ethic months ago so KD is speaking the truth

madmax17
12-22-2015, 01:25 PM
Well thank you Captain obvious.

riseagainst
12-22-2015, 02:13 PM
Best SF in the world after Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, and Andrew Iguodala.

:applause:

ralph_i_el
12-22-2015, 02:33 PM
DeAndre Jordan just isn't as good as Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson.

God gave him size, but not great talent, competitiveness, or the "it" factor.

Everyone can't hit the full jackpot in the genetic lotto. Just like how God didn't make you 7 feet tall, God made it so DeAndre can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it. It's easy to say "If I was DeAndre Jordan I would do X", but that is not how it really works. It is what it is, you just gotta deal with it.

What?

Studies have shown that skills correlate almost directly to amount time spent practicing them.

God isn't real. And if he was, he wouldn't give two shits about the NBA.

bballnoob1192
12-22-2015, 04:15 PM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.
holy shit did you get dropped as a kid. wtf how can someone be this retarded.

:biggums:

Noyze
12-22-2015, 04:16 PM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.

You must be part of the "everyone deserves a trophy" crowd. You also want things given to you cause you dont want your "feelings" hurt. Shaq had to deal with it and Wilt had to deal with it. You're focused on the wrong thing.

Dro
12-22-2015, 04:21 PM
Best SF in the world after Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, and Andrew Iguodala.

:applause:
who?

JimmyMcAdocious
12-22-2015, 05:19 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it's a hell of a lot less embarrassing to shoot ~65% granny style (random number, still low in likelihood) than 39% from the free throw line, where I swear he's air-balling at least 1/10 attempts, has to deal with getting booed and mocked when the game gets extended half an hour because of hack-a-whatever while he's missing 20 free throws, and has become a laughingstock of the national media in general?

ArbitraryWater
12-22-2015, 05:24 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it's a hell of a lot less embarrassing to shoot ~65% granny style (random number, still low in likelihood) than 39% from the free throw line, where I swear he's air-balling at least 1/10 attempts, has to deal with getting booed and mocked when the game gets extended half an hour because of hack-a-whatever while he's missing 20 free throws, and has become a laughingstock of the national media in general?

yes.. especially since I doubt 65% will be the mark, 50 at best tbh, and the misses and bricks will look feminine now, too.

24-Inch_Chrome
12-22-2015, 05:32 PM
yes.. especially since I doubt 65% will be the mark, 50 at best tbh, and the misses and bricks will look feminine now, too.
So you're saying that appearance > results? Better performance isn't worth it if you look different doing it?

oarabbus
12-22-2015, 05:32 PM
Special pass? What?

They still have to shoot ft's when they get fouled like any player.

The "special pass" is allowing teams to intentionally foul a player off the ball and it not resulting in a penalty.

One could just as easily say....why should a bad defense be allowed to intentionally foul a player. Why can't they just defend the team like everyone else does?

In most other forms of basketball...an intentional foul, especially off the ball, is a penalty and results in shots and the ball.

Basketball is not a game that was designed to have people intentionally fouling other players. Yes, in certain circumstances when a player is about to get a dunk...taking a hard foul is allowed, but that is within the flow of the game. Grabbing a guy at half court outside the flow of the game isn't.

I don't care if everyone shot 90%...I'd still be against out of principle and because it ****ing ruins the flow of games and is terrible to watch.


Then I trust you are equally against the practice of a leading team fouling its opponent when up 3 points in a late-game situation, right?

Gileraracer
12-22-2015, 06:09 PM
Its like saying "If you want to rebound better, get taller."


Everyone doesnt shoot well. It's not simply a matter of practicing.

Every ****ing 16 year old retard can shoot >50% on free throws with a little practice.

wordsRweapons
12-22-2015, 06:14 PM
This is about a very small percentage of players that are just naturally terrible at ft shooting. Could some of them improve? Of course, but it would be in the single digits percentage wise most likely for most of them.


Deandre Jordan judging by his shooting motion doesn't seem to be one of those players

$LakerGold
12-22-2015, 08:00 PM
are you retarded? professional sports are entertainment business. if you actually like watching a bad free throw shooter shoot free throws for a half hour then you are mentally ill. if hacking people is causing boring games, causing fans to change the channel, you best believe the execs are going to notice their money being effected and are going to look for a solution to the problem.. luckily it's a very simple fix, ban hacking.

lol if you think stuff like the 3 second rule, three point line, shot clock and no hand checking was added to make a fairer more competitive game, all those rules were made to make a more entertaining product.

Did I ever say that I liked watching it? I was implying that I didn't mind, they're competing, it's strategic, you moron. Let's get to the bottom of being a purist, if you think abut it, not only is it bad enough that they're bouncing a ball for a living, but to have the rules changed or cater around them all because they can't make a basket in its simplest form? A f*cking FREE THROW. Sooner or later, the players will speak out. I only made a comment about the shot clock addition. & lol if you think if it wasn't added for a more fair game (except for the three line, the league needed it). You're the same type of people who bitched about mostly everything every time you saw a total mismatch that teams could take advantage of.

This message board likes to throw out the word 'beta' so lightly, right? Yeah, you're a true definition of a beta. You were probably pampered by your parents at home, it's all in the same line. Tough shit.

The competitive nature's reasoning outweighs the business aspect. Weak bitch mentality.