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dubeta
12-21-2015, 07:07 PM
Why do people keep telling us the Warriors is just Curry and some role-players who
play a system? :biggums:


Curry, Klay, and Draymond Green are literally the best players at their position in the NBA


60% of their starting lineup, consists of the best players in the league at their position, so how can you argue that its just a system?


Thats even before talking about Iggy, Bogut, Barnes and the rest of their deep bench











Has any team in history ever have the 3 best players at their position in the same team?? :biggums:

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 07:12 PM
It looks like you haven't researched The Curry Effect yet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWw-wJWUEAALwqT.png:large

Kyrie is a better guard than Klay.

Love is a better Forward than Green.

Draymond and Klay experience increased output due to The Curry Effect, which is the polar opposite of "LeBron-Ball", which decreases the output of teammates.

dubeta
12-21-2015, 07:13 PM
It looks like you haven't researched The Curry Effect yet.

http://www.hoopsjunction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/477386510.jpg






Hmm.. interesting

bdreason
12-21-2015, 07:15 PM
It's only a couple trolls who claim the Warriors aren't stacked. You don't win a title and then go 26-1 without being stacked.

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 07:17 PM
Hmm.. interesting

Prime example of the Curry Effect. Iguodala was able to score 16 points per game while being a truley awful shooter (Iguodala had a Free Throw percentage of 35%)

Iguodala was basically shooting worse than Shaq and Wilt in the Finals and was still able to find 16 points due to the floor being turned into open gym thanks to The Curry Effect.

Fudge
12-21-2015, 07:19 PM
It looks like you haven't researched The Curry Effect yet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWw-wJWUEAALwqT.png:large

Kyrie is a better guard than Klay.

Love is a better Forward than Green.

Draymond and Klay experience increased output due to The Curry Effect, which is the polar opposite of "LeBron-Ball", which decreases the output of teammates.
Down goes Melt again!

bdreason
12-21-2015, 07:20 PM
And it's the Warriors depth, not just their Big 3, that makes them so dangerous. It's what allows them to play the way they do.


The Miami Heat were far more top heavy, and arguably had the best player in the NBA at 3 different position with Bosh (4th PER), Wade (2nd PER), and LeBron (1st PER).

Inferno
12-21-2015, 07:21 PM
Who said that it's just Curry and role-players? :biggums: This team is ****ing good all around :banana:

24-Inch_Chrome
12-21-2015, 07:23 PM
Who said that it's just Curry and role-players? :biggums: This team is ****ing good all around :banana:
Guess. :lol

dubeta
12-21-2015, 07:26 PM
Who said that it's just Curry and role-players? :biggums: This team is ****ing good all around :banana:

Its a particular "warrior fan", can't tell you his name though.

dubeta
12-21-2015, 07:28 PM
The 2013 Heat were a great example of a team with 1 superstar and role-players winning a championship

Wade averaged 15.9 points on 45% in the playoffs, Bosh averaged 12/6


Those are role-player numbers





Meanwhile Iggy wins FMVP for the Warriors, and Klay and Dray are the 2 best players in the league at each of their positions.

Those are superstars

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 07:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWw-wJWUEAALwqT.png:large

Klay with out Steph = .400 TS% chucker

Dray with out Steph = 10/10/3/1/1 .500 TS% energy hustle man

Barnes with out Steph = 8/4/2/1 .500 TS% Journeyman wing

Ezeli with out Steph = D League

Bogut with out Steph = Injured Reserve

Barbosa with out Steph = Brazilian League

Livingston with out Steph = YMCA

Rush even with Steph = Hot Trash

Mo Speights = Take him out back and have him shot

dubeta
12-21-2015, 07:32 PM
meltdown

RRR3
12-21-2015, 07:34 PM
Prime example of the Curry Effect. Iguodala was able to score 16 points per game while being a truley awful shooter (Iguodala had a Free Throw percentage of 35%)

Iguodala was basically shooting worse than Shaq and Wilt in the Finals and was still able to find 16 points due to the floor being turned into open gym thanks to The Curry Effect.
Dude,

from 2007-2013, Iggy put up these seasons...

18.2 PPG/5.7 RPG/5.7 APG/2.0 SPG/0.4 BPG on .447/.310/.820

19.9/5.4/4.8/2.1/0.6 on .456/.329/.721

18.8/5.7/5.3/1.6/0.4 on .473/.307/.724

17.1/6.5/5.8/1.7/0.7 on .443/.310/.733

14.1/5.8/6.3/1.5/0.6 on .445/.337/.693

12.4/6.1/5.5/1.7/0.5 on .454/.394/.617

13.0/5.3/5.4/1.7/0.7 on .451/.317/.574



Stop acting like he's a scrub.

Spurs m8
12-21-2015, 07:34 PM
Dubeta, get a ****ing life

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 07:45 PM
Dude,

from 2007-2013, Iggy put up these seasons...

18.2 PPG/5.7 RPG/5.7 APG/2.0 SPG/0.4 BPG on .447/.310/.820

19.9/5.4/4.8/2.1/0.6 on .456/.329/.721

18.8/5.7/5.3/1.6/0.4 on .473/.307/.724

17.1/6.5/5.8/1.7/0.7 on .443/.310/.733

14.1/5.8/6.3/1.5/0.6 on .445/.337/.693

12.4/6.1/5.5/1.7/0.5 on .454/.394/.617

13.0/5.3/5.4/1.7/0.7 on .451/.317/.574



Stop acting like he's a scrub.

First off look at his age during those years you listed, 23 through 29. These are the prime athletic years of your life. Andre Iguodala is now 32 years old. If you are trying to compare Andre Iguodala from almost 10 years ago to the Andre Iguodala today, that is not the same player.

You failed to list his TS% over the years as well. Andre Iguodala has always been inefficient while not even scoring on high volume.

http://s30.postimg.org/4hykc99q9/Andre_Iguodala_Stats1.png

His TS% over this period was .543

Scoring 16 points per game on 54% TS in your prime is nothing to brag about. That is worse than Orlando Woolridge.

feyki
12-21-2015, 07:55 PM
Trolls claim that .

Curry - Best

Klay - 3th best after Harden and Butler

Iggy - Probably top 15 in sf's

Barnes - Probably top 20 in sf's

Dray - 3th after Blake and George

Bogut - Probably top 15 in c's

Hey Yo
12-21-2015, 07:55 PM
Don't forget about Iggy's 2014 All-NBA Defensive 1st team selection.

Curry has it easy.

GrapeApe
12-21-2015, 07:59 PM
The 2013 Heat were a great example of a team with 1 superstar and role-players winning a championship

Wade averaged 15.9 points on 45% in the playoffs, Bosh averaged 12/6


Those are role-player numbers





Meanwhile Iggy wins FMVP for the Warriors, and Klay and Dray are the 2 best players in the league at each of their positions.


Those are superstars

You do realize that seasons are judged as a whole, right? That's from November through the playoffs.

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 08:00 PM
Don't forget about Iggy's 2014 All-NBA Defensive 1st team selection.

Curry has it easy.

Curry relieved the offensive pressure off Iguodala (his weak point) and allowed Andre to focus more on defense (his strength). Curry pretty much made the Iguodala that you see today.

How many 1st team defensive selections did Iguodala get before Curry?

Don't worry, I wont hold my breath.

Hey Yo
12-21-2015, 08:06 PM
Curry relieved the offensive pressure off Iguodala (his weak point) and allowed Andre to focus more on defense (his strength). Curry pretty much made the Iguodala that you see today.

How many 1st team defensive selections did Iguodala get before Curry?

Don't worry, I wont hold my breath.
He received 2nd team honors while with Philly. It's not like he wasn't recognized before 2014.

Like I said, Curry had it easy. He guarded virgin Delly while Iggy took on LeBron.

warriorfan
12-21-2015, 08:10 PM
He received 2nd team honors while with Philly. It's not like he wasn't recognized before 2014.


So Iguodala was 2nd team with Philly, and then even though he exited his physical prime, joining Steph Curry allowed his play to be raised to 1st team.

Steph Curry made Andre Iguodala into the player he is today.

These are the facts, you just have to deal with it.

knicksman
12-21-2015, 08:30 PM
bran stans are now on all out troll mode. They knew their time is running out. Once steph becomes 2/2, As vince carter have said, "Its over". So let them be. Their fam, just like their boy, will be done after this season.

KiiiiNG
12-21-2015, 08:34 PM
It's only a couple trolls who claim the Warriors aren't stacked. You don't win a title and then go 26-1 without being stacked.
Ether.

Hey Yo
12-21-2015, 08:35 PM
So Iguodala was 2nd team with Philly, and then even though he exited his physical prime, joining Steph Curry allowed his play to be raised to 1st team.

Steph Curry made Andre Iguodala into the player he is today.

These are the facts, you just have to deal with it.
Iggy was able to keep his prime a little longer by coming off the bench due to GS being stacked.

Curry made Andre a FMVP by ZVC not being able to shake virgin Delly,

sd3035
12-21-2015, 08:40 PM
It looks like you haven't researched The Curry Effect yet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWw-wJWUEAALwqT.png:large

Kyrie is a better guard than Klay.

Love is a better Forward than Green.

Draymond and Klay experience increased output due to The Curry Effect, which is the polar opposite of "LeBron-Ball", which decreases the output of teammates.

:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed:

Fudge
12-21-2015, 08:40 PM
It's only a couple trolls who claim the Warriors aren't stacked. You don't win a title and then go 26-1 without being stacked.
Rest in shit, warriorfan. :oldlol:

TrueBlue89
12-21-2015, 08:40 PM
I guarantee you this Warriors team would win 50 games even without Curry. You can't dismiss what Klay and Dray are do as down to Steph. These are true superstars like Pippen on those Bulls teams.

sd3035
12-21-2015, 08:41 PM
Lechoke made Andre a FMVP by not being able to make a shot

fixed

knicksman
12-21-2015, 08:43 PM
Anyone who understands basketball knows thats the definition of making your teammates better. Making teammates all stars and FMVPs. Thats why russell, duncan, magic, curry are winners coz they made their teammates better. Meanwhile bran hasnt produced any all star. Mo was just selected out of pity. And worse, bran makes superstars into role players so its not a surprise why hes a loser.

sd3035
12-21-2015, 08:45 PM
Anyone who understands basketball knows thats the definition of making your teammates better. Making teammates all stars and FMVPs. Thats why russell, duncan, magic, curry are winners coz they made their teammates better. Meanwhile bran hasnt produced any all star. Mo was just selected out of pity. And worse, bran makes superstars into role players so its not a surprise why hes a loser.

:roll:

k0kakw0rld
12-21-2015, 09:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWw-wJWUEAALwqT.png:large

Klay with out Steph = .400 TS% chucker

Dray with out Steph = 10/10/3/1/1 .500 TS% energy hustle man

Barnes with out Steph = 8/4/2/1 .500 TS% Journeyman wing

Ezeli with out Steph = D League

Bogut with out Steph = Injured Reserve

Barbosa with out Steph = Brazilian League

Livingston with out Steph = YMCA

Rush even with Steph = Hot Trash

Mo Speights = Take him out back and have him shot
You are an idiot...

Steph without Klay looks lost out there.

stalkerforlife
12-21-2015, 09:06 PM
It looks like you haven't researched The Curry Effect yet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWw-wJWUEAALwqT.png:large

Kyrie is a better guard than Klay.

Love is a better Forward than Green.

Draymond and Klay experience increased output due to The Curry Effect, which is the polar opposite of "LeBron-Ball", which decreases the output of teammates.

/thread

A damn ether with the first reply.

dubeta gets no breaks around here.