so Kobe dunks on Tim Duncan 50,000 times and eliminates the Spurs 100 times

[kennethgriffin]

and people wonder why kobe didnt pick him as one of the 5 greatest players he's ever faced


http://i66.tinypic.com/5l7ygl.jpg




what kobe average vs tim in the playoffs anyway? 35ppg? LOL

would be 5-1 against him if robert horry didnt go 0 for 50 during that series in 03 ( not to mention kobe tearing his shoulder and knee )


but its not about numbers! its about rim protection!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP1gQWrEGdE


:roll:


Hakeem > Duncan


its settled

[k0kakw0rld]

and people wonder why kobe didnt pick him as one of the 5 greatest players he's ever faced


http://i66.tinypic.com/5l7ygl.jpg




what kobe average vs tim in the playoffs anyway? 35ppg? LOL

would be 5-1 against him if robert horry didnt go 0 for 50 during that series in 03 ( not to mention kobe tearing his shoulder and knee )


but its not about numbers! its about rim protection!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP1gQWrEGdE


:roll:


Hakeem > Duncan


its settled
Love me some Hakeem but b!tch please... Duncan stopped Shaq/Kobe dominance.

[GIF REACTION]

I thought you retired bro

[SugarHill]

ish game Brett farve

[kennethgriffin]

Love me some Hakeem but b!tch please... Duncan stopped Shaq/Kobe dominance.


i don't really count 2003



robert horry shot 2 for 38 on threes

kobe had a torn labrem and knee

shaq had a foot problem



that was the lakers downfall...

[kennethgriffin]

i also find it fishy that horry joined the spurs immediately after tanking that series against them

[SugarHill]

Love me some Hakeem but b!tch please... Duncan stopped Shaq/Kobe dominance.
huh? Dream > Duncan peak and prime

[kennethgriffin]

huh? Dream > Duncan peak and prime


seriously

imagine if hakeem started his career on the 1998 spurs and played his 18 year career under popovich and along side ginobili, parker etc...


he'd have 7-8 rings


duncan is kind of overrated. he choked the #1 seed like 5 or 6 times

[sportjames23]

This thread is bound to be good.

michaeljacksoneatingpopcorn.gif

[ShaqTwizzle]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Kobe-Bryant-Tim-Duncan.jpg

Duncan outplayed Kobe in 99, 02 & 03.
Kobe outplayed Duncan in 01 & 08.

I don't remember the 04 series very well but statistically it seems close to a wash and they each outplayed eachother in 3 games (6 game series).
For now I would probably say Kobe had the better series by a small margin but its close and obviously Bryant had some major advantages in terms of his team situation/roster during that series.

[kennethgriffin]

http://i63.tinypic.com/25jxmcp.jpg


http://onemanfastbreak.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/TimDuncan.jpg

[Smoke117]

Changing your avatar to Ken Griffey Jr like that makes years of bullshit mean anything. Get a life, you ****ing mutt.

[RRR3]

wait? I thought spamming porn is grounds for permaban?


Wtf Ken was gone for like a few days. Seriously Jeff?


Kenneth=jeff?

[AirBonner]

Kobe stans will do and say anything to try and keep Kobe relevant :lol

[kennethgriffin]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Kobe-Bryant-Tim-Duncan.jpg

Duncan outplayed Kobe in 99, 02 & 03.
Kobe outplayed Duncan in 01 & 08.

I don't remember the 04 series very well but statistically it seems close to a wash and they each outplayed eachother in 3 games (6 game series).


kobe averaged 26/5/5 in 2002

won in 5 games

slammed his nuts down duncans throat multiple times



kobe averaged 32/5/4 in 2003 with a torn shoulder and torn knee

only lost cause of robert horry

slammed his nuts down duncans throat multiple times




kobe averaged 26/6/6 in 2004

won in 6 games

slammed his nuts down duncans throat multiple times


and yes kobe dominated in 2001 and 2008 aswell

[RRR3]

Dude, you REALLY seem to enjoy visualizing Kobe "slamming his nuts down" another man's throat.


Lol. Just propose to Kobe already.

[Smoke117]

You have no spine, mutt.

[kennethgriffin]

wait? I thought spamming porn is grounds for permaban?


Wtf Ken was gone for like a few days. Seriously Jeff?


Kenneth=jeff?




http://i.imgur.com/7NEqb8p.gif

[ShaqTwizzle]

kobe averaged 26.2/5/4.8 on .49%TS in 2002


Duncan averaged 29/17/4.6 on .52%TS


kobe averaged in 2003 with a torn shoulder and torn knee

True that he was injured. Duncan still outplayed him in that series.


kobe averaged 26/6/5.8 in 2004


Yup and Duncan averaged 21/12/3.3
Don't forget his superior defensive impact which isn't shown in these basic stats.

:confusedshrug:

[kennethgriffin]

Duncan averaged 29/17/4.6 on .52%TS



True that he was injured. Duncan still outplayed him in that series.



Yup and Duncan averaged 21/12/3.3
Don't forget his superior defensive impact which isn't shown in these basic stats.

:confusedshrug:


duncans rim protection vs kobe and the lakers was non existent


hence all the posters/facials


and rebounds doesnt make someone better. being the primary ball handler is just as important as catching balls that bounce off the rim


and we can argue stats all day but in the end its 4-2

[WayOfWade]

Wow, reading this thread I actually must say it's quite good. Good job Kenneth

[Bless Mathews]

I thought you retired bro

I see you retired from poasting in the football forum.

And your other bandwagon ridin butt body.

Proving my point.

"Yous a ho, you know you a ho"- X-Raided

[T_L_P]

kobe averaged 26/5/5 in 2002

won in 5 games

slammed his nuts down duncans throat multiple times



kobe averaged 32/5/4 in 2003 with a torn shoulder and torn knee

only lost cause of robert horry

slammed his nuts down duncans throat multiple times




kobe averaged 26/6/6 in 2004

won in 6 games

slammed his nuts down duncans throat multiple times


and yes kobe dominated in 2001 and 2008 aswell

In 02 Duncan averaged 29/17/5/4 and his next best teammate averaged 12/2/4. Then his best teammate after that averaged 9/2.

And you're seriously trying to argue Kobe outplayed Duncan in the 03 WCSF? Duncan put up 29/12/4 on .575 TS% and won in 6. Kobe put up 32/5/4 on .533 TS%. Kobe wasn't the best player on his team in the series, so you're really trying to say the Lakers had the two best players in the series and still lost? :facepalm :facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

kenneth back with a vengeance!

Busting Duncan ass as usual.

I'm so sick of the double standards/excuses/rose colored glasses when it comes to Duncan.

DO YO THANG, KENNETH WANG.

[Rocketswin2013]

How did he not get perma'd?

[kennethgriffin]

In 02 Duncan averaged 29/17/5/4 and his next best teammate averaged 12/2/4. Then his best teammate after that averaged 9/2.

And you're seriously trying to argue Kobe outplayed Duncan in the 03 WCSF? Duncan put up 29/12/4 on .575 TS% and won in 6. Kobe put up 32/5/4 on .533 TS%. Kobe wasn't the best player on his team in the series, so you're really trying to say the Lakers had the two best players in the series and still lost? :facepalm :facepalm


i remember when kobe put up his best stats... they were also during times his team was getting assraped... kinda like how kobe assraped duncan

[T_L_P]

i remember when kobe put up his best stats... they were also during times his team was getting assraped... kinda like how kobe assraped duncan

What does this have to do with their individual play in the 02 or 03 series?

[kennethgriffin]

What does this have to do with their individual play in the 02 or 03 series?


i'm saying that in order to win you have to sacrifice.

sometimes the loser has better numbers. but winning is all that matters

and kobe won more often... infact... twice as much

and it should have been 5-1 if not for horrys colluding


its obvious he was partial to the spurs since he joined them after handing them the series in 2003


nobody goes 2 for 38 by accident

[Alamо]

All of that and Kobe is still 4-5 spots behind Duncan on the all time list.

[DCL]

This episode is titled: ISH WARS: Return of the F@ggot

[kennethgriffin]

All of that and Kobe is still 4-5 spots behind Duncan on the all time list.


its silly to rank duncan over kobe when with 1/10th the number of chances kobes accomplished the same number of titles



duncan since day 1 has had a deep team, great coach and a great sidekick


meanwhile kobe had

1997 - a shit coach
1998 - a shit coach
1999 - a shit coach
2005 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick
2006 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick
2007 - a shit team, a shit sidekick
2012 - a shit coach
2013 - a shit coach
2014 - a shit coach, a shit team
2015 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick
2016 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick





give kobe the ultimate trio for all 20 years and see what happens

[Smoke117]

its silly to rank duncan over kobe when with 1/10th the number of chances kobes accomplished the same number of titles



duncan since day 1 has had a deep team, great coach and a great sidekick


meanwhile kobe had

1997 - a shit coach
1998 - a shit coach
1999 - a shit coach
2005 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick
2006 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick
2007 - a shit team, a shit sidekick
2012 - a shit coach
2013 - a shit coach
2014 - a shit coach, a shit team
2015 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick
2016 - a shit coach, a shit team, a shit sidekick





give kobe the ultimate trio for all 20 years and see what happens

He already had the "most dominant ever" and Pau Gasol carrying him, but he needs the "ultimate trio" too? How is what you said not pathetic, again?

[Alamо]

give kobe the ultimate trio for all 20 years and see what happens


We've seen what happens when you put a great player next to kobe. He either becomes a sidekick or drives them away. Sometimes both

[ArbitraryWater]

Hakeem >> Duncan is an easy one, but Kobe over Duncan? Not sure

[Smoke117]

Hakeem >> Duncan is an easy one, but Kobe over Duncan? Not sure

At least with all those billion posts you're not an idiot in this regard.

[I<3NBA]

letting this f@ggot back after all other dudes who were permabanned because of the same thing he did is the last straw

i enjoyed ISH, really

but i can't respect a dude who can't respect his own rules

unlike this f@ggot, i will remain away from ISH and go to RG

at least those dude have integrity, no matter how stuck up they are.

fk this site.

[riseagainst]

http://i63.tinypic.com/25jxmcp.jpg



:bowdown:

everyone is chasing Kobe.

[Lebronxrings]

kobe is no doubt a top 20 player.

[ArbitraryWater]

At least with all those billion posts you're not an idiot in this regard.

you try too hard to force instigate stuff with me.. you know we're TOIGHT, I got your back, always.

[sportjames23]

http://i63.tinypic.com/25jxmcp.jpg


http://onemanfastbreak.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/TimDuncan.jpg


http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/1000016_639481489451261_2016745041_n.jpg

[dubeta]

http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/1000016_639481489451261_2016745041_n.jpg


Why is MJ licking Kobe's elbow


F****** wierdo

[bukowski81]

i also find it fishy that horry joined the spurs immediately after tanking that series against them


This is a good read regarding that...

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/robert-horry-kobe-phil-jackson-lakers/

[ShawkFactory]

Griffey is a bum

[kennethgriffin]

Griffey is a bum


and yet he'l be the only superstar from the 90s to make the hall of fame

[ShawkFactory]

and yet he'l be the only superstar from the 90s to make the hall of fame
Ummm...say what now?

[sportjames23]

and yet he'l be the only superstar from the 90s to make the hall of fame


Derek Jeter? Frank Thomas (maybe)?

[ShawkFactory]

Derek Jeter? Frank Thomas (maybe)?
Ripken, Maddux, Pedro, chipper, randy Johnson, Pudge, Piazza, etc

[ninephive]

It also helped Kobe that during the Spurs primes he was missing the playoffs (2005, 2014).

[Hey Yo]

i remember when kobe put up his best stats... they were also during times his team was getting assraped... kinda like how kobe assraped duncan
When Shaq was the focal point of the defense.

[DaOldLion]

Phil Jackson on Kobe after the 2001 western conference finals against the Spurs


"I never asked Michael to be a playmaker," Jackson said. "That's the greatest player I ever had, that I could consider the greatest player in the game. Yet I never asked him to be a playmaker in those terms. I asked him to be a playmaker when he was doubled or tripled. Kobe has to set up the offense, read the defense, make others happy and he's doing a great job of it. Kobe has become the floor leader on a basketball team that was looking for that player who can not only be a scorer, but also be a playmaker who can consistently make big plays at critical times. It was very important for Kobe to step into that role he was envisioned at."

Steve Kerr



"When he took over, it's what Michael always used to do," said Spurs reserve and ex-Bull Steve Kerr. "A team would start to come back and make a run, especially in their home building, and their fans would get behind them, and all of a sudden -- bam! -- he just sucks the air out of the place. That's what Kobe was doing."

[kennethgriffin]

Ripken, Maddux, Pedro, chipper, randy Johnson, Pudge, Piazza, etc



I said superstar. Not stars


I.e. bonds. Sosa. Mcgwire.



The headliners

[SCdac]

man you can just feel the bitterness within Kobe stans - it's a tough pill to swallow that your favorite player is missing the playoffs for the like the 4th year in a row and is going to be behind Duncan and Lebron and who knows who else by the time all their careers are over. so much damage control, so much hating. I can just see the upcoming years of anti-Duncan and anti-Lebron hate threads. who you gonna hate next? Stephen Curry when he wins a couple more championships? Durant?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

man you can just feel the bitterness within Kobe stans - it's a tough pill to swallow that your favorite player is missing the playoffs for the like the 4th year in a row and is going to be behind Duncan and Lebron and who knows who else by the time all their careers are over. so much damage control, so much hating. I can just see the upcoming years of anti-Duncan and anti-Lebron hate threads. who you gonna hate next? Stephen Curry when he wins a couple more championships? Durant?

To be fair, I feel the same way about the Duncan vamps. Duncan-only fans, particularly on this board, overrate everything he does while undermining Kobe's accomplishments and H2H success against their hero. Then throw in the Kobe zealots with their counter-trolling, and its just a never-ending cycle of monkey's throwing feces at one another.

[ShawkFactory]

I said superstar. Not stars


I.e. bonds. Sosa. Mcgwire.



The headliners
Bonds will get in. He was the best player in the league before steroids and people will eventually recognize that.

Pedro Martinez was a superstar.

[34-24 Footwork]

Phil Jackson on Kobe after the 2001 western conference finals against the Spurs



Steve Kerr



No responses to this as I expected. Literally shuts down the entire "2nd fiddle" topic.

Keep bangin

[T_L_P]

To be fair, I feel the same way about the Duncan vamps. Duncan-only fans, particularly on this board, overrate everything he does while undermining Kobe's accomplishments and H2H success against their hero. Then throw in the Kobe zealots with their counter-trolling, and its just a never-ending cycle of monkey's throwing feces at one another.

To be fair, I don't think you could find one Duncan-related stanning out thread all year.

Kobe gets 10 everytime he has a good game. It's on a whole nother scale.

[Horatio33]

1999 A second year Duncan swept a third year Kobe in the WCSF, the last ever game at The Forum. Where was Kobe's pride in protecting a great arena?

2003 Duncan eliminates Kobe after the Lakers 3peat in the WCSF. Where was Kobe's pride in defending the 3peat? And the torn labrum was during the 2003-04 season, The Rape Season.

[Wade's Rings]

To be fair, I feel the same way about the Duncan vamps. Duncan-only fans, particularly on this board, overrate everything he does while undermining Kobe's accomplishments and H2H success against their hero. Then throw in the Kobe zealots with their counter-trolling, and its just a never-ending cycle of monkey's throwing feces at one another.

:roll:

[SCdac]

To be fair, I feel the same way about the Duncan vamps. Duncan-only fans, particularly on this board, overrate everything he does while undermining Kobe's accomplishments and H2H success against their hero. Then throw in the Kobe zealots with their counter-trolling, and its just a never-ending cycle of monkey's throwing feces at one another.

I agree extreme fanaticism is whack in general, but ...

the amount of kobe stans >>>>>> the amount of duncan stans

that's what makes it annoying. and they're much more vocal and whiny

[TheMarkMadsen]

To be fair, I don't think you could find one Duncan-related stanning out thread all year.

Kobe gets 10 everytime he has a good game. It's on a whole nother scale.

to be fair, I don't think you could find one reason for a Duncan stan to make a thread. all year

Duncan hasn't scored more than 16 points in any game this year. Kobe has lately been putting up numbers comparable to his prime and he's in his 20th season doing this.. of course people are going to be excited about that and make a thread.

What's there to get excited about for Duncan this year? "Hey Duncan played some pretty good defense for the 20 minutes he was out there and he even scored a few buckets, his team also won by 40 last night and he didn't even play" .. yeah.. no..

on the flip side of that you should be happy, there are two sides to this coin. For ever 2 Kobe threads about his great play there will be 4 made whenever he has a bad game, but when Duncan plays 28 minutes and scores 2 points as his team beats a playoff team like they did against Dallas.. nobody notices..

[ArbitraryWater]

this^ all of it, the whole back and forth between Duncan/Kobe is hilarious..

To Shaq and Bron, 2 superior players :applause:

[sportjames23]

1999 A second year Duncan swept a third year Kobe in the WCSF, the last ever game at The Forum. Where was Kobe's pride in protecting a great arena?

2003 Duncan eliminates Kobe after the Lakers 3peat in the WCSF. Where was Kobe's pride in defending the 3peat? And the torn labrum was during the 2003-04 season, The Rape Season.


Kobe stans gonna let this go unchecked?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe stans gonna let this go unchecked?

what is there to check? the only time he beat the Lakers was when Kobe was a season away from truly being elite and then during a series when Kobe had a torn labrum? After two straight years of destroying the Spurs, and then beating them the very next year when healthy..

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[HOoopCityJones]

what is there to check? the only time he beat the Lakers was when Kobe was a season away from truly being elite and then during a series when Kobe had a torn labrum? After two straight years of destroying the Spurs, and then beating them the very next year when healthy..

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Yea, that's all I got from that as well.

[Wade's Rings]

what is there to check? the only time he beat the Lakers was when Kobe was a season away from truly being elite and then during a series when Kobe had a torn labrum? After two straight years of destroying the Spurs, and then beating them the very next year when healthy..

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

Duncan's help wasn't elite in '01 or '02. Kobe played great but Duncan wasn't winning those series.

[Horatio33]

what is there to check? the only time he beat the Lakers was when Kobe was a season away from truly being elite and then during a series when Kobe had a torn labrum? After two straight years of destroying the Spurs, and then beating them the very next year when healthy..

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

Torn labrum was during the rape season, the next season. Kobe had prime Shaq. More than Duncan ever had. Kobe had elite role players like Robert Horry, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, Brian Shaw. Duncan had broken down Robinson, Derek Anderson until his injury, Antonio Daniels, Danny Ferry, Malik Rose, Rookie Parker, Washed up Terry Porter.