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Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 06:51 PM
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The Toronto Raptors have done a decent job weathering injuries to a pair of starters, but they have a problem that doesn't seem to be going away.

Dwane Casey sure sounds like he's seen enough of it.

Poor starts have consistently put the Raptors in some substantial holes, an issue they'll likely need to correct Tuesday night against the visiting Dallas Mavericks if they plan on avoiding a fourth loss in five games.

Toronto (17-12) already went through a stretch of 12 of 17 games where it trailed after one quarter, and its latest effort was its ugliest start so far. The Raptors dug themselves a 37-18 ditch after 12 minutes in Sunday's visit from Sacramento, trailing from start to finish in a 104-94 loss.

Casey's team has been outscored by an average of 1.8 points in the first quarter, a point differential better than only Washington, Philadelphia and the Los Angeles Lakers. The Raptors have lost eight of the last 10 they've trailed starting the second quarter.

"It's terrible," said Casey, a Mavericks assistant from 2007-11. "I mean it's totally unacceptable the way we performed (Sunday). Shame on us. The way you come into the game with that disposition of `OK, we're at home, we're OK.' It's not OK. How many times do we have to do that before it smacks us upside the head and wakes us up?"

Toronto typically gets things figured out after halftime. Its plus-4.5 point differential in the second half trails only Cleveland, San Antonio and Golden State.

DeMarre Carroll (knee) and Jonas Valanciunas (hand) remain out -- though Valanciunas was cleared to practice Monday and Carroll could soon follow -- but Toronto's lack of offensive depth seems to be showing. Luis Scola and Bismack Biyombo are a combined 7 for 34 from the field in the Raptors' three latest losses, and Casey seems to have soured on any options off the bench aside from Patrick Patterson, Terrence Ross and Cory Joseph.

Joseph, mired in a 7-for-33 shooting slump, was on the floor for 30 minutes against the Kings after Kyle Lowry was ejected for picking up two technicals. Lowry has shot 33.3 percent in his last six games, but Rick Carlisle is still concerned about facing him and DeMar DeRozan.

"They have an All-Star backcourt," Carlisle said during Monday's practice. "Lowry makes so many things happen and DeRozan is one of the best scorers in the league. He's extremely talented and he's a big problem.

"Pound for pound, I don't know of another team in the NBA that plays harder than (the Raptors) on a consistent basis."

Toronto had a better start and finish when it visited Dallas (15-12) last month. The Raptors led 31-25 after one and outscored the Mavericks 28-18 in the final quarter en route to a 102-91 win as Lowry and DeRozan combined for 47 points.

Valanciunas and Scola totaled 35 as Toronto outscored Dallas 44-30 in the paint, but repeating that could be tough with the Mavericks dusting off some frontcourt depth. Charlie Villanueva and JaVale McGee each scored 10 off the bench in Saturday's 97-88 win over Memphis.

Dallas is 5-1 when Villanueva scores in double figures. This was the first time McGee had done that since November 2014 with Denver.

"He was fantastic," said Dirk Nowitzki, who needs 30 points to pass Shaquille O'Neal for sixth on the NBA's all-time scoring list. "If you look at all the good teams, they all have athleticism from their bigs. He was definitely a game-changer for us."

The Mavs are hoping Chandler Parsons can be that again. Still working his way back from offseason knee surgery, Parsons had 16 points Saturday after scoring 17 against Phoenix four days earlier.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 08:38 PM
Game time starts now. I believe both teams will be off for the holidays after this.

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 08:40 PM
Game time starts now. I believe both teams will be off for the holidays after this.

Mavs play the Nets tomorrow.

zizozain
12-22-2015, 08:42 PM
welcome bacl KL

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 08:42 PM
Mavs play the Nets tomorrow.

Just heard it on the TV too. Thanks. :cheers:

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 08:43 PM
welcome bacl KL
:rockon: I like their back court.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 08:45 PM
A great start by the Raptors. Finally.

Now just need to sustain it.

StephHamann
12-22-2015, 08:46 PM
Dallas always plays like shit in Toronto.

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 08:46 PM
A great start by the Raptors. Finally.

Now just need to sustain it.

Rick should have a short leash with some of the guys tonight because we play tomorrow.

Going 1-1 here is a win...and beating the Nets is a whole lot easier.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 08:51 PM
Rick should have a short leash with some of the guys tonight because we play tomorrow.

Going 1-1 here is a win...and beating the Nets is a whole lot easier.

I agree.

Dallas should still make it's run, but if the lead widens its smart on Rick's part.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 08:55 PM
Biyombo is a poor man's Ben Wallace. Been a good stop gap in place of JV.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 09:00 PM
That was bad call. Shouldn't have been a change of possession, got lucky there.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 09:03 PM
Dallas' guards are so impatient in pnrs.

StephHamann
12-22-2015, 09:06 PM
Just bring in the bench

Rest for Brooklyn.

Barea is horrible all season long, can't believe they signed a 4 year contract with him.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 09:21 PM
Delon Wright geting burn early. Looks shaky.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 09:59 PM
Anthony Bennett playing now ?

Casey coaching very unusual, which is good.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 10:01 PM
Patterson in the locker room, makes sense. Wonder what happened ?

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 10:01 PM
Here comes Dirk.

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 10:02 PM
Here comes Dirk.

Hopefully...he's been shooting like ass for a few weeks now.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 10:05 PM
Hopefully...he's been shooting like ass for a few weeks now.
:rockon: DWill with patience to actually let him set the screen.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 10:10 PM
Very uncommon for DeMar to have so many turnovers. Has 6 of the 13 and have allowed 18 points of them in total.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 10:24 PM
Derozan is nice.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 10:25 PM
Dirk has been good on defense tonight.

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 10:28 PM
Parsons has to do something in a game like this...he can't just be a random dude out there making no impact.

I know he's still working himself ready, but we need him to step it up.

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 10:34 PM
Give it maybe 2 more minutes and then pull the plug Rick...tomorrow is the game we need.

Kungfro
12-22-2015, 10:34 PM
Raps getting hot from three at the right time.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 10:35 PM
Give it maybe 2 more minutes and then pull the plug Rick...tomorrow is the game we need.
yeah Dirk is sitting. He's not throwing it yet but he's obviously thinking about the next game.

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 10:45 PM
yeah Dirk is sitting. He's not throwing it yet but he's obviously thinking about the next game.

He always sits at that time in the 4th...but yea, he looks done for the night

Kungfro
12-22-2015, 10:46 PM
This game is hardly over, wonder if Carlisle brings back the starters at some point.

Kungfro
12-22-2015, 10:49 PM
Raps really trying to throw this game away.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 10:50 PM
Craziness.

Kungfro
12-22-2015, 10:52 PM
What just happened?:wtf:

edit: oh lane violation, that makes more sense I guess.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 10:56 PM
Lowry is so relentless.

DMAVS41
12-22-2015, 10:57 PM
What?

Call the damn foul when Charlie hugs Scola please...LOL

Kungfro
12-22-2015, 10:57 PM
Wow, and1. Dallas just wants it right now.

Kungfro
12-22-2015, 11:01 PM
I give Ross a lot of shit, but he's had a solid stretch of games recently, at least by his standards.

Kungfro
12-22-2015, 11:05 PM
Biyombo is a poor man's Ben Wallace. Been a good stop gap in place of JV.

Averaging nearly 16 rebounds a game over the last 5 now.

Rocketswin2013
12-22-2015, 11:08 PM
what kind of role will Valanciunas have for this team? I think they could be the second-best team in the East.

Legends66NBA7
12-22-2015, 11:25 PM
what kind of role will Valanciunas have for this team? I think they could be the second-best team in the East.

Be a 3rd option scorer and rebound well. He's still important because he will help spell Lowry and DeRozan on offense.

I get that Biyombo has been good with the starters, but Valanciunas is still long term option for the team. The rest of the team needs to be healthy first, which hasn't happened since game 5 or 6 for the team. Lowry-DeRozan-Valanciunas were playing like a Big 3 before he got hurt.