Why I don't take animal rights activists seriously [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

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12-23-2015, 04:14 AM

warriorfan

12-23-2015, 04:28 AM

1. Pointless and a waste of resources for something that has no bearing on the survival of the human race
2. The whole idea of animals having rights is because we believe as humans we have rights. The reality is this is not true because animals kill each other all the time.

I saw a story of an 18 year old who kicked a ferret the other day, he avoided jail time and was fined 2 grand. I was reading the comments section, and it was full of hostile remarks towards the 18 year old who booted the ferret approximately 2 meters. These so called animal rights activists where calling for him to be registered like a sex offender and sent to a mental hospital for treatment. I find it funny how these people will condemn a teenager for kicking a boulder sized rodent 2 meters, yet they own animals as pets. The whole idea of animal cruelty and animal rights revolves around associating it back to humans and how we treat each other. Let me ask you this.... Is slavery still socially acceptable? So if we treat animals as people, why do we enslave them?

I ask you what is really the bigger evil... Kicking a fat ass rat 2 meters, or putting a collar around its neck and giving it a name and controlling every aspect of its existence like they're subhuman (News flash: They are)...

Until the activists stop promoting slavery, no one will take them seriously.

People that abuse animals are ****ed up and have serious problems. Torturing animals is a warning sign for worse behavior to come. If it's not a problem for it being fundamentally wrong, then it is a problem for the fact that if unchecked the person has a chance to deviate into worse actions.

I don't get the last analogy of kicking a rat being the same as putting a collar around it's neck. Are you saying making an animal a pet is the same as torturing it? That doesn't really add up...

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12-23-2015, 04:40 AM

People that abuse animals are ****ed up and have serious problems. Torturing animals is a warning sign for worse behavior to come. If it's not a problem for it being fundamentally wrong, then it is a problem for the fact that if unchecked the person has a chance to deviate into worse actions.

I don't get the last analogy of kicking a rat being the same as putting a collar around it's neck. Are you saying making an animal a pet is the same as torturing it? That doesn't really add up...
Nah I'm saying that the whole ideology of animals having rights, ties back to humans having rights. Therein lies a multitude of double standards and hypocrisy. I mean we can talk about animal slavery, we can talk about animal agriculture for meat...

Honestly I think the whole animal rights thing is stupid, You'll condemn a drunk 18 year old for kicking a fat ass rat 2 meters, but you'll definitely enjoy that tasty well done primed steak while you pat your collared pet slave Gustavo the hamster.

Oh the ridiculousness!

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12-23-2015, 04:44 AM

Because you know it's so inhumane to kick another human

It's assault!

That's why people have taken anger at this 18 year old

Because kicking a rodent a few yards is "inhumane"

Wow

It's almost like the kid is.... Not human.

Oh wait

that's the rodent

LMAO

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12-23-2015, 04:45 AM

Is it animal cruelty when a Lion murders a zebra and feasts on its striped flesh?

"It's just nature brooooo. All natural!"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

What could animal cruelty possibly be about.........

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hmmm?

fiddy

12-23-2015, 04:46 AM

animal rights activists are retards that should be kicked out of society for good

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12-23-2015, 04:47 AM

I wouldn't be making this post if it were socially acceptable to kill, enslave and cannibalize other humans

warriorfan

12-23-2015, 04:47 AM

Nah I'm saying that the whole ideology of animals having rights, ties back to humans having rights. Therein lies a multitude of double standards and hypocrisy. I mean we can talk about animal slavery, we can talk about animal agriculture for meat...

Honestly I think the whole animal rights thing is stupid, You'll condemn a drunk 18 year old for kicking a fat ass rat 2 meters, but you'll definitely enjoy that tasty well done primed steak while you pat your collared pet slave Gustavo the hamster.

Oh the ridiculousness!

I agree with the animal rights people being over the top. You have to crack some eggs to make an omlet.

At the same time there are different degrees. Just because you can't kick eating meat doesn't mean you might as well start torturing animals for no apparent reason.

I love steak, don't really mind hunting if it's done responsibility, but kicking around a rat because you are super drunk and have nothing else better to do? That is some low life shit.

Lamar Doom

12-23-2015, 04:56 AM

I agree with the animal rights people being over the top. You have to crack some eggs to make an omlet.

At the same time there are different degrees. Just because you can't kick eating meat doesn't mean you might as well start torturing animals for no apparent reason.

I love steak, don't really mind hunting if it's done responsibility, but kicking around a rat because you are super drunk and have nothing else better to do? That is some low life shit.

Sorry, this is inside hoops, everything is black and white and your common sense isn't welcome here. Hurting an animal purely for entertainment is the same thing as eating eggs. If you disagree you're a beta, liberal, cuck, and you're what's wrong with this world. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Standby for even more dumbshits to tell you even more of what they think. Jesus f*cking christ this place is embarrassing.

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12-23-2015, 04:58 AM

He kicked a huge ass ferret 2 meters

Having a little bit of perspective is all I'm saying

The whole ideology is completely riddled with bullshit

People making such a huge deal out of such an insignificant thing

There was another video of a famous sportstar

He was practicing his kicking aim, kicking a ball at a 200kg cow

The comments were full of animal lovers condemning him

Ridiculous

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12-23-2015, 05:02 AM

If you eat meat or own a pet, you really can't call someone out on animal cruelty. It's like a black dude calling another black dude a ******

it doesn't really mean anything

ROCSteady

12-23-2015, 05:06 AM

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12-23-2015, 05:09 AM

It seems nobody can meet me in the philosophical arena.

I win again.

DonD13

12-23-2015, 05:16 AM

It seems nobody can meet me in the philosophical arena.

I win again.

:applause:

when i see alpha males like this it really make me question democracy

think about it, we got a few strong alphas, people who build stuff and win, like OP

but for every alpha we have a lot of peasants, you know betas, libtards

so when every vote counts the same, a society will always be ruled by the betas

how could we fix this?

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12-23-2015, 05:22 AM

SugarHill

12-23-2015, 07:07 AM

2 meters is a pretty long distance particularly for a small animal. You keep saying it like it's nothing

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12-23-2015, 07:24 AM

They're ****ing huge moe

HUGE

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Dresta

12-23-2015, 09:21 AM

Sorry, this is inside hoops, everything is black and white and your common sense isn't welcome here. Hurting an animal purely for entertainment is the same thing as eating eggs. If you disagree you're a beta, liberal, cuck, and you're what's wrong with this world. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Standby for even more dumbshits to tell you even more of what they think. Jesus f*cking christ this place is embarrassing.
Well, it pretty much is the same thing. Each uses the animal as a slave for their own benefit, they simply have different priorities. If you can't see that it's because you are trying to flatter yourself, and deny the reality of what you and your species do, on a quite incredible scale.

Animal rights crusaders are so mired in contradiction that they can pretty much just be ignored and told to shut the hell up already.

JohnnySic

12-23-2015, 10:03 AM

Animals > humans, by a fairly strong margin.

Bandito

12-23-2015, 12:06 PM

Having a pet is not the same as being a slave. The one who slaves over feeding it, bathing it and taking it to the vet is the owners. Who is the slave and subhuman now?

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12-23-2015, 12:10 PM

Did the "pet" get any say in the matter?

Pets are slaves

Need only look at a leash

nathanjizzle

12-23-2015, 12:19 PM

dont ever refer to me as your "brother" ever again you sick bastard.

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12-23-2015, 12:21 PM

**** you nathan

I tried so hard to be pals with you, but you kept slapping the hand away. Even sent you PM's bro. But no responses. I guess I was wasting my time.

Bandito

12-23-2015, 12:33 PM

Did the "pet" get any say in the matter?

Pets are slaves

Need only look at a leash

But think about it. He gets free food including water, a warm house, free healthcare. He only has to wear a leash whenever he goes. So is more like prison really.

The owner has to feed him, bathe him and take him to the vet. Who has it worse now?

Bandito

12-23-2015, 12:36 PM

**** you nathan

I tried so hard to be pals with you, but you kept slapping the hand away. Even sent you PM's bro. But no responses. I guess I was wasting my time.
He's an orphaned fan. You're supposed to feel sad about him .

Akrazotile

12-23-2015, 12:53 PM

:applause:

when i see alpha males like this it really make me question democracy

think about it, we got a few strong alphas, people who build stuff and win, like OP

but for every alpha we have a lot of peasants, you know betas, libtards

so when every vote counts the same, a society will always be ruled by the betas

how could we fix this?

It's an interesting question, and has been contemplated for a long time. Plato argued that dictatorship was preferable to a bad democracy. Obviously Hobbes believed strongly in the inevitability of a Leviathan, which of course echoed much of the tenets of Machiavelli's earlier writing on the subject.

Of course, there are arguments for democracy as well, and the whole range of systems in between. Humanity is still on the quest to find the perfect balance. It's just crazy how defensive people get these days any time you suggest everyone in society isn't equally capable and valuable. It's obviously true, so I find it strange how adamant the left is about denying it, and I'm fascinated by what the underlying motivations are for people taking this collective agenda. As you all know.

Dresta

12-23-2015, 03:39 PM

But think about it. He gets free food including water, a warm house, free healthcare. He only has to wear a leash whenever he goes. So is more like prison really.

The owner has to feed him, bathe him and take him to the vet. Who has it worse now?
You don't think slaveowners had to feed and clothe and provide medical care for their slaves? Are you crazy? There's a reason slaves in the South lived longer than free blacks in the North (southerners actually had a pecuniary interest in keeping their property healthy and able, considering how very expensive slaves were).

It seems pretty similar to me, except slaves were very often allowed to have families, and to keep those families together, whereas pets are frequently castrated (and also slaves were human, thinking creatures; but we're talking about the people who seem to care more about animals than actual people here, so that point is irrelevant). The whole animal kingdom is bent to our will and whim, whether we like it or not, so there's little use in denying it. And just like there were abusive slaveowners, so will there be abusive pet-owners.

And yeah, i'm sure your pet is better off under your guidance, care and protection, but again, that is the same argument that slaveowners used to make :oldlol:.

Similarities abound - there's no denying it.

edit: just realised i wasn't even talking about pets, but referring to the production of eggs, which is even more similar to slavery.

nathanjizzle

12-23-2015, 04:54 PM

**** you nathan

I tried so hard to be pals with you, but you kept slapping the hand away. Even sent you PM's bro. But no responses. I guess I was wasting my time.

I consider my friendship gold, and it cannot be won with a few troll PM's. In order to gain my friendship, one must posses integrity, intelligence and respect. and as ive experienced some of your posts this last year, i have concluded you possess none of those quality traits that make up a descent man. you are not my friend, and definitely not my kin "brother". Now go fucc yourself.

Bandito

12-23-2015, 05:10 PM

You don't think slaveowners had to feed and clothe and provide medical care for their slaves? Are you crazy? There's a reason slaves in the South lived longer than free blacks in the North (southerners actually had a pecuniary interest in keeping their property healthy and able, considering how very expensive slaves were).

It seems pretty similar to me, except slaves were very often allowed to have families, and to keep those families together, whereas pets are frequently castrated (and also slaves were human, thinking creatures; but we're talking about the people who seem to care more about animals than actual people here, so that point is irrelevant). The whole animal kingdom is bent to our will and whim, whether we like it or not, so there's little use in denying it. And just like there were abusive slaveowners, so will there be abusive pet-owners.

And yeah, i'm sure your pet is better off under your guidance, care and protection, but again, that is the same argument that slaveowners used to make :oldlol:.

Similarities abound - there's no denying it.

edit: just realised i wasn't even talking about pets, but referring to the production of eggs, which is even more similar to slavery.
Dude but pets don't do any kind of work whatsoever...that's the only difference TBH...but I do agree after reading the rest of your post. Human slaves are most of the time forced to do any kinda labour, from hard labour to even using your body (sex, experimentation, etc...).

Bandito

12-23-2015, 05:12 PM

I consider my friendship gold, and it cannot be won with a few troll PM's. In order to gain my friendship, one must posses integrity, intelligence and respect. and as ive experienced some of your posts this last year, i have concluded you possess none of those quality traits that make up a descent man. you are not my friend, and definitely not my kin "brother". Now go fucc yourself.
Dude your grammar so bad any idiot is considered smarter than you.

nathanjizzle

12-23-2015, 05:14 PM

Dude your grammar so bad any idiot is considered smarter than you.

Dude,your grammar is so bad that any idiot is considered smarter than you.

Lamar Doom

12-23-2015, 07:31 PM

Well, it pretty much is the same thing. Each uses the animal as a slave for their own benefit, they simply have different priorities. If you can't see that it's because you are trying to flatter yourself, and deny the reality of what you and your species do, on a quite incredible scale.

Animal rights crusaders are so mired in contradiction that they can pretty much just be ignored and told to shut the hell up already.

And you seem to be flattering yourself with your rhetoric. If you're trying to make a semantic point about the subjectivity of "cruelty" or "slavery", have at it. If you actually believe those are the same thing, I question whether or not you're human. I think there's a pretty clear common sense variable here that you're choosing to ignore so you can validate your disdain.

oarabbus

12-23-2015, 08:31 PM

Humans are more important than animals

Bandito

12-23-2015, 10:32 PM

Dude,your grammar is so bad that any idiot is considered smarter than you.
I am not a native speaker like you are genius. :roll:

GIF REACTION

12-23-2015, 10:45 PM

And you seem to be flattering yourself with your rhetoric. If you're trying to make a semantic point about the subjectivity of "cruelty" or "slavery", have at it. If you actually believe those are the same thing, I question whether or not you're human. I think there's a pretty clear common sense variable here that you're choosing to ignore so you can validate your disdain.
That's not the point. Neither is acceptable human behavior. So why is it acceptable behavior for us onto animals? You cannot stand against cruelty, and not stand against slavery. It's a huge contradiction in the human ideology of animals.

These standards are humanities. The animal world has only one law. Survival of the fittest. We know this because animals savagely kill each other all the time, without trial or without consequence. "Animal cruelty" is an idea that is really a reflection of human rights. We hold trials, with consequence to the accused.

We shall condemn a man for enslaving another, but not if he enslaves an animal, under the humane guise of "pet". There lies the flaw in the ideology. We don't treat them like humans, we treat them like animals, like subhumans. Because they are. Blind morality, while we say and condemn one thing, we contradict it with another act.

nathanjizzle

12-23-2015, 11:51 PM

I am not a native speaker like you are genius. :roll:

then go back to your third world language and your third world life style. You dont even belong using a computer.

Akrazotile

12-24-2015, 12:07 AM

That's not the point. Neither is acceptable human behavior. So why is it acceptable behavior for us onto animals? You cannot stand against cruelty, and not stand against slavery. It's a huge contradiction in the human ideology of animals.

These standards are humanities. The animal world has only one law. Survival of the fittest. We know this because animals savagely kill each other all the time, without trial or without consequence. "Animal cruelty" is an idea that is really a reflection of human rights. We hold trials, with consequence to the accused.

We shall condemn a man for enslaving another, but not if he enslaves an animal, under the humane guise of "pet". There lies the flaw in the ideology. We don't treat them like humans, we treat them like animals, like subhumans. Because they are. Blind morality, while we say and condemn one thing, we contradict it with another act.

I dunno man. People don't let their 7 year olds just come and go as they please, do what they want, catch a bus into the city. They keep an eye on them, feed them, clothe them, put them to bed, etc. Nobody classifies that as slavery.

Pets have been bred to be domestic. They're born to thrive best in a home. Just like you wouldn't want a kid raised in the wild by wolves, because that's not in their best interest. I think pets are best off at this point under human protection. No different than having kids in your home.

Now the BIG question, is how much additional strain on the planet do all our pets produce? It's not insignificant. So anyone who denounces anyone else for not opening their eyes to the threat of Manbearpig, should definitely not own any pets. Because that's the FIRST thing you can do to reduce your own carbon footprint and help fight global warming.

Boiled down: Liberals need to murder their pets, or else they're massive hypocrites.

BasedTom

12-24-2015, 12:10 AM

then go back to your third world language and your third world life style.
says the dairy crows fan

http://i.imgur.com/OE7VZOM.jpg

the face of sub-human vermin:

http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/02/wpid-Derrick_Rose_Shoes_09-13_640x360_2278978261.jpeg

tpols

12-24-2015, 12:13 AM

The animal world has only one law. Survival of the fittest. We know this because animals savagely kill each other all the time, without trial or without consequence. .

that's the exact same thing for humans.

nathanjizzle

12-24-2015, 12:16 AM

says the dairy crows fan

http://i.imgur.com/OE7VZOM.jpg

the face of sub-human vermin:

http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/02/wpid-Derrick_Rose_Shoes_09-13_640x360_2278978261.jpeg

You dont make sense breh. You must have some of that 3rd world blood in you. Try again.

GIF REACTION

12-24-2015, 12:21 AM

How is it the same as humans? You kill a man you go to jail

A tiger kills a buffalo, he feasts on the flesh and continues on without consequence

GIF REACTION

12-24-2015, 12:24 AM

I dunno man. People don't let their 7 year olds just come and go as they please, do what they want, catch a bus into the city. They keep an eye on them, feed them, clothe them, put them to bed, etc. Nobody classifies that as slavery.

Pets have been bred to be domestic. They're born to thrive best in a home. Just like you wouldn't want a kid raised in the wild by wolves, because that's not in their best interest. I think pets are best off at this point under human protection. No different than having kids in your home.

Now the BIG question, is how much additional strain on the planet do all our pets produce? It's not insignificant. So anyone who denounces anyone else for not opening their eyes to the threat of Manbearpig, should definitely not own any pets. Because that's the FIRST thing you can do to reduce your own carbon footprint and help fight global warming.

Boiled down: Liberals need to murder their pets, or else they're massive hypocrites.
"Pets have been bred to be domestic"

You could say the same thing about African Americans as slaves 200 years ago.

It's slavery, plain and simple

BasedTom

12-24-2015, 12:25 AM

You dont make sense breh. You must have some of that 3rd world blood in you. Try again.
you have dairy crows's semen dripping out of your asshole, so if anyone has 3rd world in them, it's you :confusedshrug:

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tpols

12-24-2015, 12:27 AM

How is it the same as humans? You kill a man you go to jail

A tiger kills a buffalo, he feasts on the flesh and continues on without consequence

animals have more direct encounters.. humans more indirect, more planning and strategy and use of others to further themselves. All are in the same name.. personal gain. Humans are just better at disguising their exploits.

Akrazotile

12-24-2015, 12:32 AM

"Pets have been bred to be domestic"

You could say the same thing about African Americans as slaves 200 years ago.

It's slavery, plain and simple

Africans Americans were in some cases 'bred' to be stronger physically. That doesn't mean slavery is the circumstance in which they are innately happiest.

I think if you could somehow poll the average house pet, it would prefer to keep things status quo. However, I understand your fundamental point. Most pets would probably at least like to get outside and roam around for days at a time, and come and go to their original homes as they please, and they can't. So they're not really 'free' so to speak. But slavery as a definition requires some kind of work being performed. So I think more accurately you could say house pets are captive, or held in bondage. But they're not really slaves in most cases.

BasedTom

12-24-2015, 12:34 AM

they should have euthanised this piece of SHIT animal on the very same night
http://i.cbc.ca/1.1923464.1381034374!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/sp-940-rose-derrick-8col.jpg

they already removed his balls many years ago

gigantes

12-24-2015, 01:34 AM

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so..... this a joke, right...?

seriously, there is NO WAY you could possibly be a bigger f-cking idiot than to endorse mean-spiritedness towards our animal cousins.

okay, let's say that my career deponds on this-- how about we do a quiz about animal knowledge, with loser getting flagellation in full view??

GIF REACTION

12-24-2015, 01:54 AM

so..... this a joke, right...?

seriously, there is NO WAY you could possibly be a bigger f-cking idiot than to endorse mean-spiritedness towards our animal cousins.

okay, let's say that my career deponds on this-- how about we do a quiz about animal knowledge, with loser getting flagellation in full view??
Where did I endorse cruelty of any kind? You're psycho-analyzing and projecting. Stick to the facts.

I am merely illuminating the flaw in animal rights ideology. You throw nothing but personal insult and emotional responses.

When you're ready to stop crying like a baby and step into the philosophical stage, I will take your comments seriously.

Bless Mathews

12-24-2015, 05:46 AM

I'm not ballin is a bandwagon sissy.

He won't think this way in a month

Don't worry.

He's from the homosissybandis species.

iamgine

12-24-2015, 05:58 AM

1. Pointless and a waste of resources for something that has no bearing on the survival of the human race
2. The whole idea of animals having rights is because we believe as humans we have rights. The reality is this is not true because animals kill each other all the time.

I saw a story of an 18 year old who kicked a ferret the other day, he avoided jail time and was fined 2 grand. I was reading the comments section, and it was full of hostile remarks towards the 18 year old who booted the ferret approximately 2 meters. These so called animal rights activists where calling for him to be registered like a sex offender and sent to a mental hospital for treatment. I find it funny how these people will condemn a teenager for kicking a boulder sized rodent 2 meters, yet they own animals as pets. The whole idea of animal cruelty and animal rights revolves around associating it back to humans and how we treat each other. Let me ask you this.... Is slavery still socially acceptable? So if we treat animals as people, why do we enslave them?

I ask you what is really the bigger evil... Kicking a fat ass rat 2 meters, or putting a collar around its neck and giving it a name and controlling every aspect of its existence like they're subhuman (News flash: They are)...

Until the activists stop promoting slavery, no one will take them seriously.
It's cultural. That's really the basis of it.

In a society, you have to be mindful of the culture. For example, in the US, people have learnt to love dogs therefore it's protected. But clearly not many people love ants, therefore it's okay if you want to stomp ants to death. In China, eating dogs as a delicacy is very acceptable while I can't say the same in the US.

If you ask, why is kicking a ferret wrong or why is enslaving dogs not wrong? It's the same as asking, why is going naked outside wrong or wearing sandals in mosque wrong? It's all cultural that you either accept or be an outcast.

nathanjizzle

12-24-2015, 07:59 AM

Let me clarify a bit to give some better understanding.

In the human kingdom, a humans survival is based on making money, and a humans way of making money is using its knowledge to produce a product or service. Humans dont need to kill eachother to survive. This is our evolution, using our brains to survive and not "animal instincts"

In the animal kingdom, an animals survival is based upon hunting and killing other animals for food.

When a human adopts an animal (for this example a wild one), the animal becomes apart of the humans family and is taken out of the cycle of the animal kingdom. The animal receives the luxury of living like a human, a better life than what it would have had naturally.
But at the core of this adoption is the question, what gives humans the right to take an animal without its consent and include it as their own? The answer to that question is, hierarchy. at the core of the human kingdom and animal kingdom and why they work is hierarchy. The ones that get more money make more decisions, call more shots and have the bigger houses. The ones that hunt the best and eats more gets the territory, the longevity, and the mating partners. So what exactly does this mean? it means that adopting an animal is not slavery, but it falls under the category of natural hierarchy. Something like slavery, is an extreme abuse of hierarchy and i dont think it can be attached to pet ownership.

ArbitraryWater

12-24-2015, 08:59 AM

OP has something missing in his life.. empty void that needs to be filled, for this moronic spree of nonsense to stop.

GIF REACTION

12-24-2015, 09:21 AM

It's cultural. That's really the basis of it.

In a society, you have to be mindful of the culture. For example, in the US, people have learnt to love dogs therefore it's protected. But clearly not many people love ants, therefore it's okay if you want to stomp ants to death. In China, eating dogs as a delicacy is very acceptable while I can't say the same in the US.

If you ask, why is kicking a ferret wrong or why is enslaving dogs not wrong? It's the same as asking, why is going naked outside wrong or wearing sandals in mosque wrong? It's all cultural that you either accept or be an outcast.
That's not really what we are talking about here.

Societal ideology on animal rights is a a contradiction of flawed logic and impartial reasoning.

tomtucker

12-24-2015, 09:26 AM

Animals > humans, by a fairly strong margin.

that is true, animals cannot be evil, will never backstab you or otherwise betray you...they are who they are................... always love animals more than humans

ISHGoat

12-24-2015, 09:38 AM

Wait are there people in here arguing whether slavery is comparable to pet ownership?

This might be accurate like, uh, 300 years ago when people utilized "pets" for substinence, guard, etc.; essentially the same things as slave owners used slaves for.

But in contemporary times, pets are companions and for most westerners much closer to family status than slave status. Have you seen much some people love their pets? That's fcking slavery?