Should these men be credited with Winning an NBA title?

[kennethgriffin]

- Chris Bosh 2012,2013
- Lebron James 2012,2013
- Metta World Peace 2010* ( big shot. but still )
- Ray Allen 2008,2013* ( he might have saved the year. but still )
- Kevin Garnett 2008
- Sam Cassell 2008
- Michael Finley 2007
- Robert Horry 2005,2007
- Brent Barry 2005,2007
- Gary Payton 2006
- Alonzo Morning 2006
- Glenn Robinson 2005
- Steve Kerr 2003
- Mitch Richmond 2002
- Ron Harper 2000,2001
- Robert Parish 1996
- Clyde Drexler 1995



i mean seriously. can we stop crediting these guys with championships so we can do away with this disgusting act

and the funny thing is. i don't even have to say what it is.

and to all the morons about to say kobe did it as a rookie. he became a laker before shaq and shaq was nothing more than a proven choker during the 90s. and the team had to be rebuilt from the ground up before they won anything regardless


lets face it. all those players ( No matter how much impact they had to their titles ) are all equally cheaters who rigged the system in their favor. basically paying for championships by selling their souls. are we gonna lie to ourselves forever? or can we call them out for it right here... right now



http://i68.tinypic.com/b8qv44.jpg

[Smoke117]

You're a ****ing clown.

[NZStreetBaller]

As long as you are on the team and played throughout the season/playoffs/finals you contributed. Maybe not the mass portion but you were there.

[GIF REACTION]

b]Rule Enforced Spacing[/b]
Rule Enforced Spacing relates to the offensive floor spacing teams achieved during the Illegal Defense period (1981-2001)

1981 - Illegal Defense Guidelines put in place to increase scoring and open up the paint
Passage from Bill Simmons' (Globally known NBA analyst, well respected publically) book

The new wave of coaches made defenses sophisticated enough by 1981 that the league created an “illegal defense” rule to open up the paint. Here’s how referee Ed Rush explained it to SI: “We were becoming a jump-shot league, so we went to the coaches and said, ‘You’ve screwed the game with all your great defenses. Now fix it.’ And they did. The new rule will open up the middle and give the great players room to move. People like Julius Erving and David Thompson who used to beat their own defensive man and then still have to pull up for a jump shot because they were being double-teamed, should have an extra four or five feet to move around in. And that’s all those guys need.”

Effect:
1979 league average offensive rating: 103.8

1981-82
• Zone defense rules clarified with new rules for Illegal Defensive Alignments.
a. Weak side defenders may come in the pro lane (16’), but not in the college lane (12’) for more than three seconds. (THIS IS THE CURRENT 3 seconds rule)
b. Defender on post player is allowed in defensive three-second area (A post player is any player adjacent to paint area).
c. Player without ball may not be double-teamed from weak side.
d. Offensive player above foul line and inside circle must be played by defender inside dotted line.
e. If offensive player is above the top of the circle, defender must come to a position above foul line.
f. Defender on cutter must follow the cutter, switch, or double-team the ball.

1982: League average offensive rating 106.9

The Illegal Defense Guidelines allowed teams to achieve spacing by simple positioning on the court and not actual shooting ability. The rules allowed them to do so. Today we know the value that the 3 point shot has with regards to opening the lane to the rim, yet in the 80's and 90's (before they shortened the 3pt line) the league average ranged from 2 3pters a game, to 10. How were these teams able to be such efficient offenses without having shooters to spread the half court? The Rules enforced, allowed them to do so... Commonly known as the ISO, or Clear-out, that commentators would mention at the time.

DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE SPACING, THIS MADE THESE PLAYS EFFICIENT AND LEGITIMATE AS A CONSISTENT MEANS OF SCORING

http://i.imgur.com/UZg8H99.gif
Barkley is allowed easy post position and entry due to section C of the Illegal Defense Guidelines (CANNOT DOUBLE SOMEONE OFF-BALL) and has the lane open to work his post moves, as his team mates are situated in a spread manner, kind of like today where shooters hang at the 3pt line to space the floor, except these guys are not 3pt shooters... Simply providing positioning to achieve appropriate spacing for Barkley. Charles has enough time to get into a favorable turnaround jumper, before the hard double can get there. Defenders on the weak side are sagging off slightly, which could be considered a phantom zone, which was the topic of conversation during the Illegal Defense era.

http://i.imgur.com/AcHHb0N.gif
Barkley iso's on the strong side, as his team mates clear to the weak side to open up the floor. The center in the middle gets caught out and if not for Barkley's quick shot attempt, would have been called for Illegal defense. You can see the attention that the defenders are paying to Barkley's teammates flooding the weak side to open the floor for Barkley's ISO. This is kind of messy but it provides the opportunity and spacing via Illegal defense rules, for Barkley to capitalize on the smaller opponent.

http://i.imgur.com/j7XS9e4.gif
David Robinson has the floor open because his teammates are situated in a very modern 3pt shooting style spread. Make it known that, they are NOT 3pt threats nor was it used as such weapon during this time period. The spacing is provided by the Illegal defense rules. Once again we see the weakside defenders sagging off a little, playing a phantom zone, but it really has minimal effect on Robinson, as he is able to comfortably get to his spot and hit a nice 10 foot jumper over the smaller opponent.

http://i.imgur.com/VJVCqBZ.gif
Robinson is allowed easy post position and entry due to section C of the Illegal Defense Guidelines (CANNOT DOUBLE SOMEONE OFF-BALL) and has the lane open to work his post moves, as his team mates are situated in a spread manner, kind of like today where shooters hang at the 3pt line to space the floor, except these guys are not 3pt shooters... Simply providing positioning to achieve appropriate spacing for Robinson. David has enough time to get into a favorable point blank dropstep basket, before the hard double can get there. Defenders on the weak side are sagging off slightly, which could be considered a phantom zone, which was the topic of conversation during the Illegal Defense era.

http://i.imgur.com/TmVr1N5.gif
Robinson isolates on the right wing, while his team mates situate towards to perimeter, to facitilate and provide adequate spacing for Robinson. 2 above the key and the other 2 at the corner 3. A quick mobile athlete like Robinson is able to capitalize and beat the hard double team and finish at the hoop strong. Robinson's spaced out team mates are not all 3pt shooters, the Illegal defense rules allow them to position themselves to create the space required for the Robinson ISO drive to the hoop.

[kennethgriffin]

You're a ****ing clown.

http://i68.tinypic.com/258tmz5.jpg


I DID IT WADE! I DID IT! THANKS! PEACE!

[GIF REACTION]

wrong thread sorry

[kennethgriffin]

wrong thread sorry

^


this dude not know you can delete posts yet?

:lol

[BasedTom]

michael finley is underrated all time

[Smoke117]

Drexler, Garnett, and Allen were traded to the respective teams they won a championship on you dimwit...and the why the **** are you even bringing up Robert Parish on the 96 bulls? It's ironic you would even bring up the Garnett trade seeing as you got your precious Kobe Pau to carry him by trading a prospect for him...at least the Twolves actually got something concrete in Al Jefferson when they traded Garnett away.

[zeerghit]

^


this dude not know you can delete posts yet?

:lol
what about 2000-2002 kobe?

[kennethgriffin]

Drexler, Garnett, and Allen were traded to the respective teams they won a championship on you dimwit...and the why the **** are you even bringing up Robert Parish on the 96 bulls? It's ironic you would even bring up the Garnett trade seeing as you got your precious Kobe Pau to carry him by trading a prospect for him...at least the Twolves actually got something concrete in Al Jefferson when they traded Garnett away.


dude.. were you born yesterday



yeah and bosh was traded by toronto to miami... lebron was traded by cleveland to miami.


DERP!


lol what a f*cking moron


drexler and KG were sent by their teams to winning situations because they asked them where they wanted to go out of respect for their years of service

KG refused to go unless he and Allen both agreed before hand that both were accepting trades to boston

KG originally turned down the offer before allen was involved


learn your f*cking history


trades most of the time in ring chasing situations are player initiated... ala bosh/bran

[Sportal]

Kobe had the mad help but OP happy to talk shit about others.

[kennethgriffin]

what about 2000-2002 kobe?



and to all the morons about to say kobe did it as a rookie. he became a laker before shaq and shaq was nothing more than a proven choker during the 90s. and the team had to be rebuilt from the ground up before they won anything regardless


^^ covered in OP

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe had the mad help but OP happy to talk shit about others.


out of all the dudes on the 2000-2002 laker title team

the only guy that was on LA before kobe was derek fisher




dat ring chasing doe

[zeerghit]

^^ covered in OP
nice you guys are retards, its pretty obvious, so goodluck,keep troling.

[Gileraracer]

Ray Allen should get all the credit for 2013, without his magic wonder 3point shot Lebron would be 1/6 :lol

[Smoke117]

dude.. were you born yesterday



yeah and bosh was traded by toronto to miami... lebron was traded by cleveland to miami.


DERP!


lol what a f*cking moron


drexler and KG were sent by their teams to winning situations because they asked them where they wanted to go out of respect for their years of service

KG refused to go unless he and Allen both agreed before hand that both were accepting trades to boston

KG originally turned down the offer before allen was involved


learn your f*cking history


trades most of the time in ring chasing situations are player initiated... ala bosh/bran

I see daddy is going to have to express some rage...but tomorrow. I"m gassed out at the moment.

[HylianNightmare]

Kenneth seems mad

[OnFire]

dude.. were you born yesterday



yeah and bosh was traded by toronto to miami... lebron was traded by cleveland to miami.


DERP!


lol what a f*cking moron


drexler and KG were sent by their teams to winning situations because they asked them where they wanted to go out of respect for their years of service

KG refused to go unless he and Allen both agreed before hand that both were accepting trades to boston

KG originally turned down the offer before allen was involved


learn your f*cking history


trades most of the time in ring chasing situations are player initiated... ala bosh/bran

Like when Kobe got himself traded to the Lakers because he was afraid to play in the tougher East.

[MP.Trey]

I don't get it? It's not okay to jump teams but it's fine to recruit and bring other players to your team like Pierce, Wade, Kobe, etc.?

[stalkerforlife]

Bran doesn't have a legitimate ring, IMO.

[SouBeachTalents]

- Chris Bosh 2012,2013
- Lebron James 2012,2013
- Metta World Peace 2010* ( big shot. but still )
- Ray Allen 2008,2013* ( he might have saved the year. but still )
- Kevin Garnett 2008
- Sam Cassell 2008
- Michael Finley 2007
- Robert Horry 2005,2007
- Brent Barry 2005,2007
- Gary Payton 2006
- Alonzo Morning 2006
- Glenn Robinson 2005
- Steve Kerr 2003
- Mitch Richmond 2002
- Ron Harper 2000,2001
- Robert Parish 1996
- Clyde Drexler 1995

I would credit the bolded with a ring more than Kobe in 2000. KG was the Celtic's best player in '08, and while '95 Drexler was comparable he at least had a good Finals

[SouBeachTalents]

Also shocked OP didn't mention '06 Shaq

[DMV2]

Kobe's 2000 ring. 4 full games of that 6-game Finals series.

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe's 2000 ring. 4 full games of that 6-game Finals series.

How about Finals stats

Shaq's rpg: 17
Kobe's ppg: 16

Shaq's ppg: 38
Kobe's fg%: 37

[DMV2]

I would credit the bolded with a ring more than Kobe in 2000. KG was the Celtic's best player in '08, and while '95 Drexler was comparable he at least had a good Finals
Bold Ray Allen for 2008 too because he should have been Finals MVP. Shot better, more efficient and made more critical plays than Pierce did, just happened to have less PPG. But that PPG was so close, like 21PPG to 20.8PPG or something like that.

Allen: 20.3 (.504 / .524 / .867) on 73 shots / 5 REB / 2.5 AST / 1.3 and 0.7 for STL and BLK
Pierce: 21.8 (.432 / .393 / .830) on 88 shots / 4.5 REB / 6.3 AST / 1.2 and 0.3 for STL and BLK

Bold the 73 shots because Allen had 15 less shots than Pierce.

[PsychoBe]

How about Finals stats

Shaq's rpg: 17
Kobe's ppg: 16

Shaq's ppg: 38
Kobe's fg%: 37

he was injured yet he still saved the season in ot when shaq got fouled out :facepalm

[Kawhi]

Horry personally saved the finals and this kid has the nerves to ask if he should be credited with a ring in 2005.

[SouBeachTalents]

Horry personally saved the finals and this kid has the nerves to ask if he should be credited with a ring in 2005.

He saved the season in '07 too

[GrapeApe]

Here's a crazy thought. If you win an NBA title you should be credited with winning an NBA title.

[Showtime2001]

Here's a crazy thought. If you win an NBA title you should be credited with winning an NBA title.
Except Kobe.

[Segatti]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/510/195/846.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

Allot of people in here are confusing help with ring chasing

[dubeta]

Allot of people in here are confusing help with ring chasing

Ring chasing is what Kobe did in 1996 forcing his way to LA to collude with Shaq

[GrapeApe]

Ring chasing is what Kobe did in 1996 forcing his way to LA to collude with Shaq

A 17 year old was ring chasing? That's a new one. :oldlol:

And why does nobody seem to know what the word collude means? I don't think I've seen it ever used correctly on this board.

[Showtime2001]

Ring chasing is what Kobe did in 1996 forcing his way to LA to collude with Shaq
http://undergroundsoles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/lebron-wade-bosh-01.jpg
http://s29.postimg.org/mqavp8o5j/Photo2_710x434.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

Ring chasing is what Kobe did in 1996 forcing his way to LA to collude with Shaq


A)kobe was a laker before shaq. Check basketball reference

B) the lakers werent anywhere near a championship at the time or even after they got shaq. Being swept every year

C) even if in an alternate universe shaq was there before kobe..shaq was swept like 6 or 7 times in the 90s. How is that ring chasing. He was considered a failure at the time.

D) the entire lakers roster and coach were changed since kobe got there

E) kobe cant force his way anywhere as a 13th pick. He wanted to go to LA but he has no actual pull considering hes just a benched rookie

F) this is in no way shape or form anywhere close to the same as an established player rigging his way to a guaranteed situation.

G) if it was a true ring chasing sotuation kobe would have had to of asked to be traded to chicago, seattle or utah since they were the only possible contending teams

[Straight_Ballin]

- Chris Bosh 2012,2013
- Lebron James 2012,2013
- Metta World Peace 2010* ( big shot. but still )
- Ray Allen 2008,2013* ( he might have saved the year. but still )
- Kevin Garnett 2008
- Sam Cassell 2008
- Michael Finley 2007
- Robert Horry 2005,2007
- Brent Barry 2005,2007
- Gary Payton 2006
- Alonzo Morning 2006
- Glenn Robinson 2005
- Steve Kerr 2003
- Mitch Richmond 2002
- Ron Harper 2000,2001
- Robert Parish 1996
- Clyde Drexler 1995



i mean seriously. can we stop crediting these guys with championships so we can do away with this disgusting act

and the funny thing is. i don't even have to say what it is.

and to all the morons about to say kobe did it as a rookie. he became a laker before shaq and shaq was nothing more than a proven choker during the 90s. and the team had to be rebuilt from the ground up before they won anything regardless


lets face it. all those players ( No matter how much impact they had to their titles ) are all equally cheaters who rigged the system in their favor. basically paying for championships by selling their souls. are we gonna lie to ourselves forever? or can we call them out for it right here... right now



http://i68.tinypic.com/b8qv44.jpg

MJ, Kobe and Duncan don't know how to chase rings. :bowdown:

[ShawkFactory]

F@ggiest thread I've seen since the retirement.

[ralph_i_el]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/510/195/846.jpg

Kenneth is one of the top-10 biggest f@ggots I have ever encountered on the internet.

Just remember, he's a backwards hat wearing, card collecting 30 year old man child on an allowance because he's too retarded to support himself. He's lucky he's not in my family. My rich fam would let him starve because he's an embarrassment to his lineage.

[Segatti]

Kenneth is one of the top-10 biggest f@ggots I have ever encountered on the internet.

Just remember, he's a backwards hat wearing, card collecting 30 year old man child on an allowance because he's too retarded to support himself. He's lucky he's not in my family. My rich fam would let him starve because he's an embarrassment to his lineage.

damn :lol :lol

[Smoke117]

Kenneth is one of the top-10 biggest f@ggots I have ever encountered on the internet.

Just remember, he's a backwards hat wearing, card collecting 30 year old man child on an allowance because he's too retarded to support himself. He's lucky he's not in my family. My rich fam would let him starve because he's an embarrassment to his lineage.

He'd probably be on some corner selling his ass if not for his granddaddy.

[kennethgriffin]

Kenneth is one of the top-10 biggest f@ggots I have ever encountered on the internet.

Just remember, he's a backwards hat wearing, card collecting 30 year old man child on an allowance because he's too retarded to support himself. He's lucky he's not in my family. My rich fam would let him starve because he's an embarrassment to his lineage.


i collect allot of things

whats the point of having money and liking things if we're not allowed to enjoy the fruits of life

work is false pride. people work for money. not respect. only 1% of the world has a job worth bragging about



so if i go out and get my old job back as a supervisor at a sporting goods outlet and worked my way up to manager. then get a head office job deciding what line of skates theyre stocking the shelves with next winter season. if i came on here the next day and said "hey look at me" ... who the hell would give 2 ****s

i say..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XliISCN8xs

[kennethgriffin]

i guarantee that not a single guy on this board has a job exciting enough to talk about on an episode of the view or jimmy kimmel live



http://38.media.tumblr.com/63d15ad5180beb5f27f42e7e314f2ba2/tumblr_n33sisKmyQ1r60h6bo6_250.gif

i am the spade


https://media.giphy.com/media/qqBBNLcwK8Ntm/giphy.gif

youre all the duck

[ralph_i_el]

Don't get all in your feelings in public man, it's not a good look. Call up Grandpa and tell him someone bullied you online. I'm sure he'll be so proud when he signs your next check.

I could lay around all day and mooch off my successful family members. I'd be embarassed, and they would be embarassed of me. It's not what a man does.

[ShawkFactory]

i guarantee that not a single guy on this board has a job exciting enough to talk about on an episode of the view or jimmy kimmel live



http://38.media.tumblr.com/63d15ad5180beb5f27f42e7e314f2ba2/tumblr_n33sisKmyQ1r60h6bo6_250.gif

i am the spade


https://media.giphy.com/media/qqBBNLcwK8Ntm/giphy.gif

youre all the duck
Why does having a job exciting enough to be on TV all that matters? If you worked you'd be a contributing member to society.

[Hittin_Shots]

i guarantee that not a single guy on this board has a job exciting enough to talk about on an episode of the view or jimmy kimmel live



http://38.media.tumblr.com/63d15ad5180beb5f27f42e7e314f2ba2/tumblr_n33sisKmyQ1r60h6bo6_250.gif

i am the spade


https://media.giphy.com/media/qqBBNLcwK8Ntm/giphy.gif

youre all the duck

That guy squeezes that entire quote into that mouth movement?

[ralph_i_el]

I find it ironic that Kenny makes a thread denigrating other's achievements, when he doesn't even earn money to feed himself.

[kennethgriffin]

Why does having a job exciting enough to be on TV all that matters? If you worked you'd be a contributing member to society.


I pay more taxes than you do dumbass...

[ralph_i_el]

I pay more taxes than you do dumbass...

Yeah but your grandpa writes you off his taxes as a "charity"

[kennethgriffin]

I find it ironic that Kenny makes a thread denigrating other's achievements, when he doesn't even earn money to feed himself.


People hate what they cant relate with. 99% of lottery winners quit their jobs


Why the hell would anyone still choose to waste most of their life working when they dont have to unless they were one of the few people in the world that got paid to do something ludicrous like play sports or draw cartoons etc... but most people have shitty jobs. Thats reality



Take your false pride preachy fake bullshit and stick it up your ass you hypocritical son of a ****


Buncha whiney ****in hurt vaj's in here..

"Waaah waaah!!!! You shouldnt not work! I work! I need money so you should want it as much as i do and work hard for it!!! Boo hoooo :'(((((


:roll:

[Jameerthefear]

People hate what they cant relate with. 99% of lottery winners quit their jobs


Why the hell would anyone still choose to waste most of their life working when they dont have to unless they were one of the few people in the world that got paid to do something ludicrous like play sports or draw cartoons etc... but most people have shitty jobs. Thats reality



Take your false pride preachy fake bullshit and stick it up your ass you hypocritical son of a ****


Buncha whiney ****in hurt vaj's in here..

"Waaah waaah!!!! You shouldnt not work! I work! I need money so you should want it as much as i do and work hard for it!!! Boo hoooo :'(((((


:roll:
meltdown

[CavaliersFTW]

*Retired*

:lol

[ralph_i_el]

People hate what they cant relate with. 99% of lottery winners quit their jobs


Why the hell would anyone still choose to waste most of their life working when they dont have to unless they were one of the few people in the world that got paid to do something ludicrous like play sports or draw cartoons etc... but most people have shitty jobs. Thats reality



Take your false pride preachy fake bullshit and stick it up your ass you hypocritical son of a ****


Buncha whiney ****in hurt vaj's in here..

"Waaah waaah!!!! You shouldnt not work! I work! I need money so you should want it as much as i do and work hard for it!!! Boo hoooo :'(((((


:roll:

If you didn't brag about your money on the internet no one would care. You're just a douche, so it's fun to take you down a peg.

Instead of helping people or bettering yourself with the life you've been given, you make tens of thousands of barely understandable posts on a basketball forum. It would be one thing if they were intelligent posts, or if you respected civil discourse....but they aren't and you don't.

You worship a grown man like you're a 12 year old. Kobe will never give a **** about you. He would be creeped out by your post history.

[Jameerthefear]

*Retired*

:lol
he came back to have an internet meltdown
very scary 0_0

[kennethgriffin]

*Retired*

:lol


re

[kennethgriffin]

If you didn't brag about your money on the internet no one would care. You're just a douche, so it's fun to take you down a peg.

Instead of helping people or bettering yourself with the life you've been given, you make tens of thousands of barely understandable posts on a basketball forum. It would be one thing if they were intelligent posts, or if you respected civil discourse....but they aren't and you don't.

You worship a grown man like you're a 12 year old. Kobe will never give a **** about you. He would be creeped out by your post history.



I never bragged. I only bring it up in defense when people initiate an attempt to discredit me



Someone called me out and assumed i live in a basement at my parents house so i posted pics of 3 different places i lived at.. then the person talked shit about me renting. So i said its because im retired and get 3 grand a month. So i cant just go out and buy a home. Nore would i want to due to getting sick of living anywhere for more than 2 years


Since then people bring it up randomly and act like i should be ashamed for being fortunate... well i'm not


I never said it makes me better. Youre all the ones acting like working shit jobs makes you better. And its all a lame attempt to feel better about yourselves when you see someone not having to go through the same bullshit struggles and be able to enjoy their life every day of the week instead of just 1 or 2... well tough shit


I love my life. And im sorry all of you people hate yours.

[kennethgriffin]

he came back to have an internet meltdown
very scary 0_0



Why do you have a 10 year old girl in your avatar

[ralph_i_el]

I never bragged. I only bring it up in defense when people initiate an attempt to discredit me



Someone called me out and assumed i live in a basement at my parents house so i posted pics of 3 different places i lived at.. then the person talked shit about me renting. So i said its because im retired and get 3 grand a month. So i cant just go out and buy a home. Nore would i want to due to getting sick of living anywhere for more than 2 years


Since then people bring it up randomly and act like i should be ashamed for being fortunate... well i'm not


I never said it makes me better. Youre all the ones acting like working shit jobs makes you better. And its all a lame attempt to feel better about yourselves when you see someone not having to go through the same bullshit struggles and be able to enjoy their life every day of the week instead of just 1 or 2... well tough shit


I love my life. And im sorey all of you people hate yours.

3 grand a month?
That's like...poverty where I live.
I'll stop making fun of you bro, I'm sorry you're on white dude welfare.

[kennethgriffin]

3 grand a month?
That's like...poverty where I live.
I'll stop making fun of you bro, I'm sorry you're on white dude welfare.


lol my parents arent dead yet. theyre the ones holding the loot


i got an early bonus till the time comes. but for now i'm living happily


i asked for it this way.. i knew i'd just gamble it all away so i budgeted my inheritance

whenever they die i'l get like 10 grand a month till i'm 65. then get the entire lump sum of whatevers left of the 5 mill. i'm 31 right now


3 out of 4 lottery winners go bankrupt for a reason. getting it little by little is the smart way

[Jameerthefear]

Why do you have a 10 year old girl in your avatar
how does that look 10 to you?
http://blog.acmconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/grandma.jpg
is this bitch 24?

[ralph_i_el]

lol my parents arent dead yet. theyre the ones holding the loot


i got an early bonus till the time comes. but for now i'm living happily


i asked for it this way.. i knew i'd just gamble it all away so i budgeted my inheritance

whenever they die i'l get like 10 grand a month till i'm 65. then get the entire lump sum of whatevers left of the 5 mill. i'm 31 right now


3 out of 4 lottery winners go bankrupt for a reason. getting it little by little is the smart way

3/4 lottery winners go bankrupt, because you have to be a dumbass to play the lottery. Give a dumbass millions of dollars and they'll probably lose it eventually.

You're 31 and can't be trusted to manage a reasonable amount of money.
This is too funny.

Keep in mind, you aren't the only one who has money in the family. Most people just have class enough not to act like it's an accomplishment.

[kennethgriffin]

how does that look 10 to you?
http://blog.acmconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/grandma.jpg
is this bitch 24?


ok i think she could pass for 12 ... maybe


who the hell is it?

[kennethgriffin]

3/4 lottery winners go bankrupt, because you have to be a dumbass to play the lottery. Give a dumbass millions of dollars and they'll probably lose it eventually.

You're 31 and can't be trusted to manage a reasonable amount of money.
This is too funny.

Keep in mind, you aren't the only one who has money in the family. Most people just have class enough not to act like it's an accomplishment.


Money changes people... they live beyond their means.. they go all out instead of planning ahead. Most lottery winners go bankrupt because theyre not responsible enough to budget the way i did


I had an option. Either get it all or take it little by little


The fact that i did it doesnt mean i'm incapable or managing myself. That specifically was the act of me managing myself.

Anyone can get spend happy and forget to check their bank. Or get tricked by a woman into spending too much on some dumb shit. Thats just a natural thing in the life of someone with more money than they need


Jordan gambles away millions each year. Imagine if all he had was 5 mill to last the rest of his life. That dumb asshole would be on the street. Hes careless. Theres allot of people like that.

Why bother risking it... or rolling the dice just to see if i can keep myself from spending more than 10 grand a month... wheres the reward in that... i could be 1 of the 25% that pull it off but why even bother trying to find out. Especially when my budget right now is only 3 grand.

I love buying stuff. Never know when i might wanna go to the casino and get some revenge on a bad roulette beat


These are factors in life that idiots take chances with. I'm the smart one... dont hate

[ralph_i_el]

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[ShawkFactory]

If everything you're saying is true that actually makes a LOT of sense given the things that you post.

[OnFire]

Money changes people... they live beyond their means.. they go all out instead of planning ahead. Most lottery winners go bankrupt because theyre not responsible enough to budget the way i did


I had an option. Either get it all or take it little by little


The fact that i did it doesnt mean i'm incapable or managing myself. That specifically was the act of me managing myself.

Anyone can get spend happy and forget to check their bank. Or get tricked by a woman into spending too much on some dumb shit. Thats just a natural thing in the life of someone with more money than they need


Jordan gambles away millions each year. Imagine if all he had was 5 mill to last the rest of his life. That dumb asshole would be on the street. Hes careless. Theres allot of people like that.

Why bother risking it... or rolling the dice just to see if i can keep myself from spending more than 10 grand a month... wheres the reward in that... i could be 1 of the 25% that pull it off but why even bother trying to find out. Especially when my budget right now is only 3 grand.

I love buying stuff. Never know when i might wanna go to the casino and get some revenge on a bad roulette beat


These are factors in life that idiots take chances with. I'm the smart one... dont hate

Ok well you are smarter than people with a gambling problem that don't make someone else do all the work of managing their finances. But you definitely aren't smarter than the people than can say.. hmm roulette is a dumb ass way to waste money so I'll just invest in something smarter or save my money instead.

Props for recognizing you are a dead beat and protecting yourself against yourself... that's something I guess.

[toxicxr6]

Kenneth getting absolutely shat on in this thread...

And as a person who has worked for everything I have Kenneth you sound like an absolute knob. Reality is most of what you say is bullcrap as well.. And when people talk crap they tend to prop up the lies.. So I take it that your situation is likely a lot less exciting than what you make it out to be.

In saying that 3k/month... Fk that... Your not living a lavish life at all on that sort of budget. Heck I earn 3x that and I still want to work out how to make more.

[Overdrive]

Why the hell would anyone still choose to waste most of their life working when they dont have to unless they were one of the few people in the world that got paid to do something ludicrous like play sports or draw cartoons etc... but most people have shitty jobs. Thats reality

Can't believe this, but I have to side with griff here:

Most people would not work in their jobs if it wasn't paid. The majory has to work to for food and shelter even in 1st world countries. Pretty sure if I had money to spend without working I would concentrate my energy on music and maybe get into other arts.

[TommyGriffin]

"So what do you do?"

"Uh, not much, grandparents were pretty rich so I just live off a fixed income of 3k a month and I'm waiting for my parents to die until I get the rest. I do enjoy posting on ISH about Kobe Bryant however."

"Oh....."

Kenneth is the life of the party.

[ralph_i_el]

Can't believe this, but I have to side with griff here:

Most people would not work in their jobs if it wasn't paid. The majory has to work to for food and shelter even in 1st world countries. Pretty sure if I had money to spend without working I would concentrate my energy on music and maybe get into other arts.

That's perfectly reasonable.

But that's not what our boy Kenny G does. He's an obnoxious wastrel.

[kennethgriffin]

That's perfectly reasonable.

But that's not what our boy Kenny G does. He's an obnoxious wastrel.


my passions are

- Watching Basketball, Baseball, Hockey, Golf
- Playing Basketball,Baseball,Hockey, Golf, 10 pin bowling, 8ball and 9ball pool, Darts
- Drawling
- cooking/BBQing
- camping
- Cottages
- Movies
- Video Games
- Bar hopping


and i try to spend atleast one or two days a week dealing with women weather it be from parties, clubs, online dating, through friends etc..

i buy and sell allot on ebay. just sold 6 items today for almost 400$ .. allot of running back and forth to the post office

other than that i'm running around 3-4 days a week to friends houses or having them over to drink and chill


and i post on here in my spare time maybe for 20 minutes every day or 2...

i honestly dont know how i would do half of the stuff i do if i worked full time.

[pauk]

out of all the dudes on the 2000-2002 laker title team

the only guy that was on LA before kobe was derek fisher




dat ring chasing doe

Oh so its fine with being handed everything on a silverplate as long as you dont change the looks on your jersey & hence fine with measuring beta/sidekick/roleplayer rings being valued much more significant than even one of the greatest alpha/the man championship runs ever...

Please, the only reason you Kobetards come up with this shit is because you wanted Lebron to stay in Cleveland completely ringless with scrubs his entire career....... you damn well knew how good & better he was than Kobe, you damn well knew how many championships he would pile up & what type of peak he would display & even surpass Kobe all-time immediately within just 2-4 years if he had anywhere close to a supporting cast Kobe had....

...and thats exactly what Lebron did, 2-4 years is all he needed with just a microscopically better supporting cast than his Cleveland scrubs to surpass Kobe.... imagine 10+ years....

Have respect for Kobe (some of his fans, like you, different story tho), i understand some may prefer Kobe's style of game, thats fine, thats an acquired taste of what you think is aesthetically pleasing to watch from a player.... but Lebron is/was a better / more overall talented / much more impactful player with hard evidence in any fashion....

If you gave Lebron & Kobe two identical/cloned supporting casts for 15 years.... you would be lying to yourself if you think Kobe would accomplish more of ANYTHING except for more Field Goal Attempts Missed....