Ok enough! What exactly makes Kawhi better than LeBron?

[k0kakw0rld]

I'm waiting...

Stat wise it's not a match and the work load is not the same. The fvck you mean he is better? A better one-on-one defender and that's about it.

[fiddy]

Bran is trash

[k0kakw0rld]

Bran is trash
The franchise you are representing is trash...

Call me when Kawhi averages 30-5-5
Call me when Kawhi gets out of that system and lead his own team to the promise land like other greats before comparing him to the greatest player of the 21st century. No disrespect to Duncan. :pimp:

[feyki]

Let's check ;

Kawhi - 32.1 Pts , 11.2 Reb , 4.4 ast , 3.3 stl , 1.5 blk , 1.9 to , %61 TS , 123 Ortg , 91 Drtg

Lebron - 36.8 pts , 10.8 reb , 8.7 ast , 2 stl , 1 blk , 5.1 to , %55.5 TS , 109 Ortg , 99 Drtg


These are 100 poss stats . And yes , Kawhi looks better than Lebron .

[k0kakw0rld]

Let's check ;

Kawhi - 32.1 Pts , 11.2 Reb , 4.4 ast , 3.3 stl , 1.5 blk , 1.9 to , %61 TS , 123 Ortg , 91 Drtg

Lebron - 36.8 pts , 10.8 reb , 8.7 ast , 2 stl , 1 blk , 5.1 to , %55.5 TS , 109 Ortg , 99 Drtg


These are 100 poss stats . And yes , Kawhi looks better than Lebron .
:facepalm Kids

[Dresta]

Let's check ;

Kawhi - 32.1 Pts , 11.2 Reb , 4.4 ast , 3.3 stl , 1.5 blk , 1.9 to , %61 TS , 123 Ortg , 91 Drtg

Lebron - 36.8 pts , 10.8 reb , 8.7 ast , 2 stl , 1 blk , 5.1 to , %55.5 TS , 109 Ortg , 99 Drtg


These are 100 poss stats . And yes , Kawhi looks better than Lebron .
A good deal better at that.

[ZMonkey11]

So let's look at these categories.

- Shooting
- Passing
- Defense
- Off-ball
- Rebounding
- Hustle

These are the main categories in basketball

Shooting: Kawhi. It's not even close. We know how comical it is that after all this time, LeBron still does not have a reliable shot.

Passing: LeBron. He has more court vision. It's not close.

Defense: Kawhi. LeBron is straight lazy at points and his lateral movement can't keep up with many players nowadays.

Off-ball: Kawhi is much better than LeBron off-ball. "It's the system." Well **** it, if LeBron would actually listen and play in someone's system as opposed to running a franchise and playing Bran ball, he could probably be a ****ing monster. Unfortunately, Wade is gone to feed him transition buckets and that's about all the off-ball LeBron did.

Rebounding: This is about a tie.

Hustle: Kawhi. LeBron doesn't hustle anymore.

So yea...it looks like Kawhi is the better player.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

So let's look at these categories.

- Shooting
- Passing
- Defense
- Off-ball
- Rebounding
- Hustle

These are the main categories in basketball

Shooting: Kawhi. It's not even close. We know how comical it is that after all this time, LeBron still does not have a reliable shot.

Passing: LeBron. He has more court vision. It's not close.

Defense: Kawhi. LeBron is straight lazy at points and his lateral movement can't keep up with many players nowadays.

Off-ball: Kawhi is much better than LeBron off-ball. "It's the system." Well **** it, if LeBron would actually listen and play in someone's system as opposed to running a franchise and playing Bran ball, he could probably be a ****ing monster. Unfortunately, Wade is gone to feed him transition buckets and that's about all the off-ball LeBron did.

Rebounding: This is about a tie.

Hustle: Kawhi. LeBron doesn't hustle anymore.

So yea...it looks like Kawhi is the better player.

You forgot driving. I think Lebron is better at getting to the rim but it's also because he is allowed to travel and stiff arm on every position

[G0ATbe]

He's better at every aspect of the game, right down to winning

[GIF REACTION]

We respect Lebron's reputation and legacy. He's in cruise mode during the regular seasons these days. Let's wait til the playoffs. That's when Lebron takes it to the next level. Kawhi has stats, but if it were all stats, Lebron would have been the best player ever year since 2005.

[feyki]

We respect Lebron's reputation and legacy. He's in cruise mode during the regular seasons these days. Let's wait til the playoffs. That's when Lebron takes it to the next level. Kawhi has stats, but if it were all stats, Lebron would have been the best player ever year since 2005.

How ? :oldlol:

[GIF REACTION]

How ? :oldlol:
Respect the greats.

[feyki]

Respect the greats.

I always respect to the greats . But Lebron hadn't best stats until 2009 in nba .

[k0kakw0rld]

He's better at every aspect of the game, right down to winning

NBA Championships
LeBron James 2
Kawhi Leonard 1

FMVPs
LeBron James 2
Kawhi Leonard 1

MVPs
LeBron James 4
Kawhi Leonard 0

[stalkerforlife]

Better shooter.

Better defender.

Better teammate.

[k0kakw0rld]

I always respect to the greats . But Lebron hadn't best stats until 2009 in nba .
LeBron averaged 30 ppg his 3rd season in the league :wtf: are you smoking on.

05-06
31.4 ppg 7.0 rpg 6.6 apg 1.6 spg 0.8 bpg

Dat ninja Kawhi will never be able to post this numbers even in his dreams or his most twisted fantasies.

[AirBonner]

Kawhi. Better shooter better defense better hairline.

[Tycriss]

K.Leonard PER:27.67
L.James PER:25.97

K.Leonard Win Shares:6.6
L.James Win Shares:4.2

K.Leonard Defensive Win Shares:2.8 #1
L.James Defensive Win Shares:1.7 #13

K.Leonard Offensive Win Shares:3.9 #5
L.James Offensive Win Shares:2.5 #16

[dhsilv]

I'm waiting...

Stat wise it's not a match and the work load is not the same. The fvck you mean he is better? A better one-on-one defender and that's about it.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM

Stats do favor Kawhi....

[ArbitraryWater]

I always respect to the greats . But Lebron hadn't best stats until 2009 in nba .

Had by far the best 'stats' in the NBA in 2007-2008, 30-8-7 on 48%.

[Mr. Jabbar]

better finals record

[Lebronxrings]

Better shooter.

Better defender.

Better teammate.
i don't see guys taking paycuts and going to the spurs for only kawhi. I don't see kawhi guarding 1-5, i don't think kawhis ever shot 40% from 3.



Stop

[feyki]

LeBron averaged 30 ppg his 3rd season in the league :wtf: are you smoking on.

05-06
31.4 ppg 7.0 rpg 6.6 apg 1.6 spg 0.8 bpg

Dat ninja Kawhi will never be able to post this numbers even in his dreams or his most twisted fantasies.

And outplayed by Gilbert Arenas in playoffs :oldlol: .




Had by far the best 'stats' in the NBA in 2007-2008, 30-8-7 on 48%.

We were talked about that at one time .

[ArbitraryWater]

And outplayed by Gilbert Arenas in playoffs :oldlol: .





We were talked about that at one time .

Yeah, its not like Bron won the series, dropped 2 game winners on him, multiple 40 point games, triple double in first ever rookie playoff game and arguably the greatest playoff series debut ever....

you can't make a dumber statement, at least try to differentiate yourself from the trolls, feyki.

[pauk]

Wait what? Who said that?

[feyki]

Yeah, its not like Bron won the series, dropped 2 game winners on him, multiple 40 point games, triple double in first ever rookie playoff game and arguably the greatest playoff series debut ever....

you can't make a dumber statement, at least try to differentiate yourself from the trolls, feyki.

I'm not interested "who win? " . I just look to the individual impacts . You are going on your subjectives again .

[SCdac]

I'd take Lebron. Doesn't mean Kawhi isn't an excellent player, probably the 2nd best SF in today's game and one of the best players in general.

[Lebronxrings]

Wait what? Who said that?
kobe stans, lebron haters

[pnyozzzoo]

Better defender

Better mid range jumper

Better 3 pointer

Better free throw shooter

Better post up game

Better efficiency

Better teammate

Better as a team player, fitting into a team not disrupting everything to make everything fit into you, as a player ages this is even more important, see Kobe and Duncan

Better contract, every penny produce more per on court

Better side of age 30


or maybe the question should be what does Lebron have better than Kawhi, Honestly better court vision and bigger name generate tons money off court beside these 2 I cannot find any. Even Bron s illegal Arm shoving drives are not that effective anymore.

[sd3035]

Better defender

Better mid range jumper

Better 3 pointer

Better free throw shooter

Better post up game

Better efficiency

Better teammate

Better as a team player, fitting into a team not disrupting everything to make everything fit into you, as a player ages this is even more important, see Kobe and Duncan

Better contract, every penny produce more per on court

Better side of age 30


or maybe the question should be what does Lebron have better than Kawhi, Honestly better court vision and bigger name generate tons money off court beside these 2 I cannot find any. Even Bron s illegal Arm shoving drives are not that effective anymore.

/thread

[SCdac]

Better defender

Better mid range jumper

Better 3 pointer

Better free throw shooter

Better post up game

Better efficiency

Better teammate

Better as a team player, fitting into a team not disrupting everything to make everything fit into you, as a player ages this is even more important, see Kobe and Duncan

Better contract, every penny produce more per on court

Better side of age 30


or maybe the question should be what does Lebron have better than Kawhi, Honestly better court vision and bigger name generate tons money off court beside these 2 I cannot find any. Even Bron s illegal Arm shoving drives are not that effective anymore.

I agree with some of this, but from this post you would never guess that Lebron is averaging 26 ppg, 8 rpg, 6 apg to Kawhi's 21 ppg, 7 rpg, 3 apg

[Nick Young]

Defense, work rate, shooting, athleticism and clutchness, as well as being a better team player.

[Doranku]

K.Leonard PER:27.67
L.James PER:25.97

K.Leonard Win Shares:6.6
L.James Win Shares:4.2

K.Leonard Defensive Win Shares:2.8 #1
L.James Defensive Win Shares:1.7 #13

K.Leonard Offensive Win Shares:3.9 #5
L.James Offensive Win Shares:2.5 #16

:roll: :roll: :roll: Bron stans absolutely avoiding this post like the PLAGUE. Where are your advanced stats now?????

[3ball]

I'm waiting...

Stat wise it's not a match and the work load is not the same. The fvck you mean he is better? A better one-on-one defender and that's about it.

3 simple reasons Kawhi > Lebron


1) Superior defender... not even close

2) Superior midrange shooter/player, which allows him to score against better defenses that limit the layups/3-pointer strategy.

3) Superior isolation player - Kawhi's isolation PPP is currently 1.10 compared to Lebron's 0.90.. Lebron's isolation PPP was a horrific 0.68 in the 2015 playoffs.


No one cares that Lebron averages more assists, since it's statistical FACT that he achieves his assists by significantly lowering the assists (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841) of all his teammates.

As the 3 points above demonstrate, Kawhi is superior on defense and offense - I guess that's why Kawhi destroys Lebron in both offensive and defensive win shares
.

[dhsilv]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Bron stans absolutely avoiding this post like the PLAGUE. Where are your advanced stats now?????

I doubt anyone is going to argue with the stats between the two. Also not sure why you're laughing.