Ex-Muslim: Koran Revealed a Religion I Did Not Like

[Nick Young]

Ex-Muslim: Koran Revealed a Religion I Did Not Like


GOTHENBURG, Sweden -- Mona Walter is on a mission. Her mission is for more Muslims to know what is in the Koran. She says if more Muslims knew what was in the Koran, more would leave Islam.

Walter came to Sweden from Somalia as a war refugee when she was 19. She says she was excited about joining a modern European nation with equal rights for women. But as a young Muslim woman, that was not the Sweden she encountered.

A Real Introduction to Islam

It was in Sweden that she first experienced radical Islam on a daily basis.

"I discovered Islam first in Sweden. In Somalia, you're just a Muslim, without knowing the Koran. But then you come to Sweden and you go to mosque and there is the Koran, so you have to cover yourself and you have to be a good Muslim."

Walter says she grew up in Somalia never having read the Koran.

"I didn't know what I was a part of. I didn't know who Mohammed was. I didn't know who Allah was. So, when I found out, I was upset. I was sad and I was disappointed," she recalled.

And it was in Sweden that Walters says she discovered Allah is a god who hates, and that Islam is not a religion of peace.

"It's about hating and killing those who disagree with Islam. It's about conquering. Mohammed, he was immoral. He was a bloodthirsty man. He was terrible man, and Muslims can read that in his biography -- what he did to Jews, how he raped women, how he killed people. I mean, he killed everyone who didn't agree with him," she explained.

Discouraged, Walter left Islam and became an atheist, until one day a family member encouraged her to read the Bible. She still remembers the first time she read Matthew 5:44, where Jesus said to "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Christianity, a New Perspective

"It was very strange for me to 'love your enemy,' because in Islam it is 'kill your enemy.' 'Kill your enemy and anyone who refuses Islam.' But Jesus Christ was all about love and peace and forgiveness and tolerance, and for some reason, I needed that," she said.

She went to see Pastor Fouad Rasho of Angered Alliance Church, a Syrian immigrant who ministers to former Muslims in Sweden.

"She started to believe and she came to me. And that was the beginning of her trusting," he said.

When she accepted Christ, Walter said she felt "so happy" and "filled with joy."

Walter says the Lord gave her a burden for Muslims who still do not know the truth about Islam. And she began to study the Koran, and began copying verses from the Koran and handing them out on the street to Muslim women.

Rescuing Muslims with Truth

"Sometimes they listen and sometimes they become very upset, and I tell them, 'You know your husband has a right to beat you if you don't obey him?' And they say 'No, It does not say that.' 'Yes, it does say that.' I thought if I tell them about Muhammed and about the Koran and about this god of Islam who hates, who kills, who discriminates against women, maybe they will have a choice and leave," she explained.

But in politically correct Sweden, Walter has come under attack for simply repeating what is in the Koran.

"I've been called an 'Islamophobe,' and yeah [they tell me], 'You've been bought,' 'You're a house ******,' and stuff like that, terrible things, " she said.

She has also been called a racist. Walter warns that Islamic radicalism is a serious threat in Sweden, and says Swedish society should care more about women trapped in Islam.

"[Swedes] will think, 'Oh, we're in Sweden; we have freedom of religion,' but Muslim women don't have freedom of religion. They live under the law of Allah, not under Swedish law. So they will suppose everyone has freedom of religion. We don't have freedom of religion. It's not for Muslim women. It's for everyone else," Walter argued.

Walter lives under death threats and sometimes travels with police protection. She wanted to show us Muslim areas around Gothenburg, but had to first dress as a Muslim. She believes if she were to show her face, she would be attacked.

"I can never go to those areas just being me, flesh and blood Mona. I would never get out of there alive," she said.

"I mean, Muslims are normally good people like everyone else," she continued. "But then when they read the Koran, then they become a killing machine."

"This so-called ISIS or el Shabab or Boko Haram, they're not like extremists. They're not fanatical. They're just good Muslims, good Muslims who follow the teachings of Islam. The prophet Mohammed, he did that. They're doing what he did," she explained.

Walter now uses videos and speaking appearances to spread her message. And she says she won't stop, even though her life is in danger.


http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2015/April/Ex-Muslim-Koran-Revealed-a-Religion-I-Did-Not-Like/

:applause:


Like the girl, most of the people defending Islam on this board have never actually read the Koran. They don't have a full understanding of the ideology they follow. They aren't aware of the history of Mohammad and the violent things he did while he was alive and the thousands of people who died under Mohammad's direct orders. Religion of peace my ass.


The Koran is a book designed to indoctrinate people and turn them in to zealots. It is not a book of peace and love. There is nothing in the book that points to the idea that Mohammad was seeking a peaceful and non-violent world when he wrote it.

[BigNBAfan]

Religion stops people for having to think for themselves and makes them reliant on a mythical figure... It generally does well in areas of poverty as those people rarely do have deep revelations/thought but sometimes even the weak minded western people find themselves caught in this garbage.

[Nick Young]

Religion stops people for having to think for themselves and makes them reliant on a mythical figure... It generally does well in areas of poverty as those people rarely do have deep revelations/thought but sometimes even the weak minded western people find themselves caught in this garbage.
I used to believe that, but now I believe religion can be helpful.

Yes Jesus was a mythical figure for example-but what did he do that was so evil? He was a mythical figure who did nothing but encourage people to be helpful and kind and peaceful.

What is wrong with people looking up to a guy like that as a role model in life?


It's not like Jesus preached insane shit. He mainly spoke common sense.

Same with Buddha.

Even if these guys are completely fictional characters, what is wrong if people want to use characters like them as role models?

Remember-most people on the planet lead rough lives and grow up and live in shitty places. If belief in religion helps them to deal with the tough shit, and helps them cope, what is wrong with that? As long as they aren't hurting people in the name of their religion, what's wrong with them having belief?

Why is it a bad thing?

[Derka]

Its all superstitious nonsense. If there is a single, benevolent god in the universe there's no way it could look at what the three monotheistic religions have done in its name and say "Yeah, you're all doing fine."

[Nick Young]

Its all superstitious nonsense. If there is a single, benevolent god in the universe there's no way it could look at what the three monotheistic religions have done in its name and say "Yeah, you're all doing fine."
Do you know the shit the Abrahamic God allegedly has done?


He gives no f*cks about killing hundreds of thousands.

If God does exist, it makes sense he gives no shits.

The point of god in these religions is that we don't understand why god does what god does, so the best we can do is cope and get on with it until we die.



The Abrahamic God is not a peaceful loving non-violent fellow. He's described as pretty cold-blooded, logicless and reptilian in the wrath he randomly deals out.

Have you ever read the bible? You ever read the Book of Job? You don't seem to know what's written in it.

[tomtucker]

yeah, it

[ALBballer]

Quran (like most religious books) can be interpreted to find passages about women rights, peace, war, tolerance, intolerance etc.

With that said, Islam is IMO more dangerous religion compared to Christianity.

[imdaman99]

Quran (like most religious books) can be interpreted to find passages about women rights, peace, war, tolerance, intolerance etc.

With that said, Islam is IMO more dangerous religion compared to Christianity.
Because there's no Sunday school going on in them countries. They need to be taught like I was.

Interpretation of the Qur'an for Dummies.

[ALBballer]

Because there's no Sunday school going on in them countries. They need to be taught like I was.

Interpretation of the Qur'an for Dummies.

I think the problem is Islam is more of a cult where certain rules must be followed in order to be Muslim whereas Christianity is more principles based. Couple that with countries with authoritarian rule, poverty, Wahabbism etc and you have a dangerous formula.

Technically I should be killed for leaving Islam which is ridiculous in this day and age and if I was born and lived in a country in the Middle East there is a good chance I would be in jailed or be hanged for my beliefs. Which again goes back the cult mentality Islam brings.

[imdaman99]

I think the problem is Islam is more of a cult where certain rules must be followed in order to be Muslim whereas Christianity is more principles based. Couple that with countries with authoritarian rule, poverty, Wahabbism etc and you have a dangerous formula.
Wahabbism is a major problem, for Muslims more than anyone else. I couldn't agree more.

[Nick Young]

WARNING: The following post contains actual quotes from the Koran.




[QUOTE]

And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah.

[verylegit]

Real talk, do you have a job?

[Nanners]

I just checked my koran to verify these quotes, but the only quote I can find is -


OP is a ******

[Nick Young]

Real talk, do you have a job?
Yes, I just procrastinate too much.

[Akrazotile]

I just checked my koran to verify these quotes, but the only quote I can find in mine is "OP is a ******"


Isnt Muhammed the OP of the Koran?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

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It is the unadulterated word of God in Arabic.

Prior to Islamic civilization which took Arabs from nomadic tribesmen and upgraded them to a literate pious force to be reckoned with, the Arabs already had codes of honor and masculinity.

The majority of the killing verses are of course in a I'm breaching of a contract, war or vengeance like context.

The wife beating is the 3rd step. Even then husband's are not allowed to slack off in financial matters or recreations or adultery or affairs or sequel needs of the wife when she's older... .. so it's strict both ways. Pressure creates diamonds.

The Quran also stated that
- Scandal mongers and hypocrites rot in the greatest depths of hell, just as the Bible said "I'll take hot and cold but NOT lukewarm!" The slime balls usually contort the truth and ignore the voice if their true consciences
- Break covenants over and over again
- people who take things out of religious texts that they don't for personal financial gain (corrupt clerics)
- And that the Children of Israel used to be on the right way until they
- worshipped a golden calf (
- if you don't stand for something you'll fall for everything
- like deifying rapists and thugs
- disobeyed Moses who liberated them
- deliberately DESTROYED any clear cut sense of right and wrong
- banished their own kind and then held them ransom for $$$
- constantly ungrateful
- involved in industries that were detrimental to man's well being
- There's four types of liars not to trust; the ones out to make a profit or entertain, the ones that don't listen to their hearts conscience , the ones who bend to the will of the social circle they are in, the ones who presume their ancestors to be fools.

My oh my who fits the aforementioned criteria?

All these principles are pretty sound.
They are eerily similar to real gangstas and USMC soldiers.. One can say there's a running th thread of loyalty honor and sincerity that universally affects all real civilized men.

Whereas spoiled soft Euro effeminate Godless girly men like Perez Hilton and BigNBAfan gossip gossip gossip and if push come to shove they'd buckle like beetches. Getting bullied by hospital patients and Egyptian without the inner strength to forgive. That about sums up these two fools "characters" quite well (and I use that term loosely)

it's unfortunate that Desousa can only bring lackluster opinions to the table of an apostate with an agenda rather than a seasoned Shaykh who knows the ins and outs of the book like Yasir Qadhi.

[Nick Young]

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- And that the Children of Israel used to be on the right way until they
- worshipped a golden calf
Pretty sure when Moses came down from Sinai and saw Israelis worshiping the Golden Cow, him/God ordered the idol worshipers to all be slaughtered, and they were.

Didn't the Children of Israel pay for this incident already? Are all of them permanently cursed because some of them worshiped a Golden Calf?

Pretty sure God stuck with them after this incident, according to the Torah.

[Dresta]

Religion stops people for having to think for themselves and makes them reliant on a mythical figure... It generally does well in areas of poverty as those people rarely do have deep revelations/thought but sometimes even the weak minded western people find themselves caught in this garbage.
Without the cult there can be no culture. There is a reason that no civilisation has grown up without a religious foundation - even Sovietism had its myths, its embalmed saints, its faith-based moral assumptions.


edit: the biggest problem with Islam, is that for many, it is a utopian ideology, that carries with it a political program and detailed legal structure.

[NumberSix]

Wahabbism is a major problem, for Muslims more than anyone else. I couldn't agree more.
This is blatant Wahabbophobia. Where do you get off being such a bigot?


#NotAllWahabbis #RespectAllReligions

[Dresta]

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It is the unadulterated word of God in Arabic.

Prior to Islamic civilization which took Arabs from nomadic tribesmen and upgraded them to a literate pious force to be reckoned with, the Arabs already had codes of honor and masculinity.

The majority of the killing verses are of course in a I'm breaching of a contract, war or vengeance like context.



- if you don't stand for something you'll fall for everything

Yes, love that one: tis very, very true. The amount of credulity in this apparently 'scientific' age is really quite striking.

Islam undeniably elevated the Arabs; that is also true, though very few people would admit or acknowledge it.

[imdaman99]

This is blatant Wahabbophobia. Where do you get off being such a bigot?


#NotAllWahabbis #RespectAllReligions
All dem Wahhabis should be blown up. Why isn't OBAMA BLOWING THEM ALL UP???? :rant

#WahhabisForPeaceAndLoveOnEarth

[Patrick Chewing]

Muzzies love violence and the taste of blood.



But there is only one other person that loves it more.







A United States Marine.

[BigNBAfan]

I just checked my koran to verify these quotes, but the only quote I can find is -

:facepalm

did you even think this joke through?

[senelcoolidge]

So people were forced to become Muslims by the sword mostly? Does that mean that their ancestors kin, neighbors, friends, and others were likely murdered and raped? To survive they had to convert, I mean there was little choice If you wanted to keep breathing.

[9erempiree]

The sight of the word Muslim makes me want to vomit.

[BigNBAfan]

http://static.vibe.com/files/twista1.jpeg

It's their culture bro, not the threads. Don't get it twisted

[Nick Young]

So people were forced to become Muslims by the sword mostly? Does that mean that their ancestors kin, neighbors, friends, and others were likely murdered and raped? To survive they had to convert, I mean there was little choice If you wanted to keep breathing.
The very first ones were loyal followers of Mohammad. Eventually he built up an army large enough to conquer Mecca.

But post-Conquest of Mecca, yes, most of Islams new converts converted under the threat of being killed if they didn't.

[9erempiree]

It's their culture bro, not the threads. Don't get it twisted

Makes me want to vomit.

[BigNBAfan]

Makes me want to vomit.

You probably wont, just dry heave considering how kobe's been playing.

[Nick Young]

You probably wont, just dry heave considering how kobe's been playing.
The black mamba is a phoenix rising from the ashes. How dare you blaspheme his holy work:mad:

[BigNBAfan]

So people were forced to become Muslims by the sword mostly? Does that mean that their ancestors kin, neighbors, friends, and others were likely murdered and raped? To survive they had to convert, I mean there was little choice If you wanted to keep breathing.

It's currently happening in the ME right now right... eithe ryou're muslim and obey by their sharia's law or get shot up.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Muzzies love violence and the taste of blood.



But there is only one other person that loves it more.







A United States Marine.

Semper Fi :cheers:


Marine Corps history states that a sword of this type was presented to Marine First Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon by the Ottoman Empire viceroy, Prince Hamet, on December 8, 1805, during the First Barbary War, as a gesture of respect and praise for the Marines' actions at the Battle of Derne.[3] Upon his return to the United States, the state of Virginia presented him with a silver-hilted sword featuring an eaglehead hilt and a curved blade modeled after the original Mameluke sword given him by Hamet. Its blade is inscribed with his name and a commemoration of the Battle of Tripoli Harbor.[4]

Perhaps due to the Marines' distinguished record during this campaign, including the capture of the Tripolitan city of Derna after a long and dangerous desert march, Marine Corps Commandant Archibald Henderson adopted the Mameluke sword in 1825 for wear by Marine officers. After initial distribution in 1826, Mameluke swords have been worn except for the years 1859-75 (when Marine officers were required to wear the U.S. Model 1850 Army foot officers' sword), and a brief period when swords were suspended during World War II. Since that time, Mameluke swords have been worn by Marine officers in a continuing tradition to the present day.[

[imdaman99]

This message is hidden because 9erempiree is on your ignore list.

Based on the thread title, I don't mind. But I don't blame everyone for being curious and wanting to talk about Islam. It is the fastest growing religion :rockon:

[9erempiree]

You probably wont, just dry heave considering how kobe's been playing.

I'm about to tear it up on the NBA forum with some Kobe love bro.

[Nick Young]

It's currently happening in the ME right now right... eithe ryou're muslim and obey by their sharia's law or get shot up.
Also, if you're not following the right brand of Islam you get shot up.

Desecrating sacred monuments and statues, beheading infidels, launching terrorist attacks-everything ISIS is doing today was done by Mohammad and his first followers 1,400 years ago.

[Draz]

Me personally I am. The girl I'm talking too/with is Muslim and if I'm not dealing with the Muslim shit here I'm dealing with it with her

Like can a niggv get a break

[BigNBAfan]

The very first ones were loyal followers of Mohammad. Eventually he built up an army large enough to conquer Mecca.

But post-Conquest of Mecca, yes, most of Islams new converts converted under the threat of being killed if they didn't.
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/remember.jpg

[9erempiree]

Me personally I am. The girl I'm talking too/with is Muslim and if I'm not dealing with the Muslim shit here I'm dealing with it with her

Like can a niggv get a break

Just makes me want to vomit.

It translates to real life too....if I even see a head-dress I want to puke.

[BigNBAfan]

Me personally I am. The girl I'm talking too/with is Muslim and if I'm not dealing with the Muslim shit here I'm dealing with it with her

Like can a niggv get a break


Your whole life has been a break.

[senelcoolidge]

I think the problem is Islam is more of a cult where certain rules must be followed in order to be Muslim whereas Christianity is more principles based.

Well yes, Islam is a legalistic cult. You have to pray a certain way, you can't eat certain things, you can't do this and that..etc etc. If you don't do these things than you're in the wrong, can mean death in some places. While Christianity like you said is more principal based. You are open to eat pretty much anything if you like..because it's just food. You can give from your heart, no set amount. You can pray anytime and anywhere. It's a lot less strict. It's more about the way you conduct your life and your heart.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

forgot 9 must've spammed off at least 500 of them in half a year.

nick picked up his slack real well with bignba and poido at the caboose.

such dedication, chemistry and consistency deserve a round of applause :applause:.

[brownmamba00]

weak :sleeping

[Nick Young]

such dedication, chemistry and consistency deserve a round of applause :applause:.
Thanks bro.

No one spoke out against the Nazis during their ascent to power. I want to do what I can to make sure the same thing doesn't happen again.

Note how I only make threads about violence and intolerance in Islam. I have zero problem with Muslims who don't commit acts of violence and intolerance in the name of their religion. I have zero problem with Muslims who believe violence and intolerance in the name of Islam is wrong.

I have zero problem with Muslims following their religion and keeping it to themselves. I have a big problem with Muslims who try to force everyone in to becoming Muslim, and who use acts of violence to make that happen.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Well yes, Islam is a legalistic cult. You have to pray a certain way, you can't eat certain things, you can't do this and that..etc etc. If you don't do these things than you're in the wrong, can mean death in some places. While Christianity like you said is more principal based. You are open to eat pretty much anything if you like..because it's just food. You can give from your heart, no set amount. You can pray anytime and anywhere. It's a lot less strict. It's more about the way you conduct your life and your heart.

Your comparative religion diagnosis is both misinformed and incomplete, as both possess a spectrum ranging from Salafi---Sufi (with radical peaceful people composing MOST of the former) and Puritan----Methodist.

Moreoever, you neglect the fact that Christianity arguably hit its prime (in terms of its worldwide influence) a ways back whereas Islam has not. If Islam is on the decline (it would inevitably become more lax).


The purifying of the heart, spiritual cultivation, principles, and manners are additionally integrated to the aforementioned strict regiment of salat and manner of doing things One of the integral concepts is the purity of one's "Niah"(intention), spiritual cleanliness (in having a clean conscience and being nearer to Allah), the sunnah in how the Prophet consistently smiled, and the significance of a well-wishing greeting and departure.


Though I have not encountered it in the Koran... yet; there is very likely a verse relating to the "spirit of the letter" vs "spirit of the law" concept foretold in the previous Scripture, as eternal wisdoms always stand the test of time.


Dresta, have you reconciled with parts of your mind disgusted at the "patheticness" of Christianity as averse to the beauty and necessity of it?

It helps to understand how strong and dignified a guy like Aquinas really was. Persistent and patience have their appeal to. One can think of man as being pathetic and needy while praying privately (as humility and the destruction of the ego are precursors to being receptive for the Light of Wisdom and the Holy Spirit), and partaking his role in society with strength and determination in Nietzchan fashion.

[BasedTom]

genuine questions for antimuslim posters:

When you're with people in a public setting and the topic of muslims comes up for whatever reason, are you the same irl as you are on here? Do you see muslims around your town on a regular basis? Have you seen formerly normal areas become ghetto zones in your lifetime? How would you estimate the average person pulled off the street in your area would say about muslims, and is there any disparity between that and how you'd think they really feel about the situation?

[Draz]

Your whole life has been a break.
Df does that mean

[Draz]

I mean dont get me wrong the girl I'm talking too is from the same background as me. It's not that weird. But when she starts playing that Koran music or whatever and I'm browsing ish I feel some nausea

[The.Juice]

Genuinely wondering about this place's obsession with Muslims.
Literally saw a thread talking about exterminating all of them left out for a day.

[Nick Young]

Genuinely wondering about this places obsession with Muslims.
Literally saw a thread talking about exterminating all of them left out for a day.
That thread was disgusting. Dunno why the mods allowed it for so long.

[DonDadda59]

Genuinely wondering about this place's obsession with Muslims.
Literally saw a thread talking about exterminating all of them left out for a day.

It's all spelled out in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion... Jeff being one of the said elders.

http://www.readsleeprepeat.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Joker-According-To-Plan.gif

[nightprowler10]

Genuinely wondering about this place's obsession with Muslims.
Literally saw a thread talking about exterminating all of them left out for a day.
The admin here tolerates all this to increase traffic. Unless it's related to Israel. Then it swiftly gets deleted and all parties banned.

In b4 I get b&.

[verylegit]

I mean dont get me wrong the girl I'm talking too is from the same background as me. It's not that weird. But when she starts playing that Koran music or whatever and I'm browsing ish I feel some nausea
:oldlol:

[senelcoolidge]

It's true, some of the muslims on this site, don't even know the koran. They should really know what's in that book and the history of their warlord, I mean prophet. It's not a religion of peace, who started that BS anyway..religion of peace..:lol .

[Nick Young]

It's true, some of the muslims on this site, don't even know the koran. They should really know what's in that book and the history of their warlord, I mean prophet. It's not a religion of peace, who started that BS anyway..religion of peace..:lol .
yep. Most muslims in the world don't know what's written in the Koran. they just follow and believe what their Imams tell them.

[poido123]

.
It is the unadulterated word of God in Arabic.

Prior to Islamic civilization which took Arabs from nomadic tribesmen and upgraded them to a literate pious force to be reckoned with, the Arabs already had codes of honor and masculinity.

The majority of the killing verses are of course in a I'm breaching of a contract, war or vengeance like context.

The wife beating is the 3rd step. Even then husband's are not allowed to slack off in financial matters or recreations or adultery or affairs or sequel needs of the wife when she's older... .. so it's strict both ways. Pressure creates diamonds.

The Quran also stated that
- Scandal mongers and hypocrites rot in the greatest depths of hell, just as the Bible said "I'll take hot and cold but NOT lukewarm!" The slime balls usually contort the truth and ignore the voice if their true consciences
- Break covenants over and over again
- people who take things out of religious texts that they don't for personal financial gain (corrupt clerics)
- And that the Children of Israel used to be on the right way until they
- worshipped a golden calf (
- if you don't stand for something you'll fall for everything
- like deifying rapists and thugs
- disobeyed Moses who liberated them
- deliberately DESTROYED any clear cut sense of right and wrong
- banished their own kind and then held them ransom for $$$
- constantly ungrateful
- involved in industries that were detrimental to man's well being
- There's four types of liars not to trust; the ones out to make a profit or entertain, the ones that don't listen to their hearts conscience , the ones who bend to the will of the social circle they are in, the ones who presume their ancestors to be fools.

My oh my who fits the aforementioned criteria?

All these principles are pretty sound.
They are eerily similar to real gangstas and USMC soldiers.. One can say there's a running th thread of loyalty honor and sincerity that universally affects all real civilized men.

Whereas spoiled soft Euro effeminate Godless girly men like Perez Hilton and BigNBAfan gossip gossip gossip and if push come to shove they'd buckle like beetches. Getting bullied by hospital patients and Egyptian without the inner strength to forgive. That about sums up these two fools "characters" quite well (and I use that term loosely)

it's unfortunate that Desousa can only bring lackluster opinions to the table of an apostate with an agenda rather than a seasoned Shaykh who knows the ins and outs of the book like Yasir Qadhi.



Let's just say that you are right on this.


What do you think the average Muslim would understand form the Quran based on what Nick Young showed you?


Many Muslims would interpret the Quran without in depth understanding like which you have.


You are talking about a lot of uneducated, poor Muslims who would only be spoonfed the basics of Islam.

[waseem780]

Me personally I am. The girl I'm talking too/with is Muslim and if I'm not dealing with the Muslim shit here I'm dealing with it with her

Like can a niggv get a break
This advice is for everyone on ISH. If you aren't Muslim yourself NEVER EVER date/marry/**** a Muslim girl. Its complicated af.

[Nick Young]

This advice is for everyone on ISH. If you aren't Muslim yourself NEVER EVER date/marry/**** a Muslim girl. Its complicated af.
#CommonSense
:cheers:

[poido123]

genuine questions for antimuslim posters:

When you're with people in a public setting and the topic of muslims comes up for whatever reason, are you the same irl as you are on here? Do you see muslims around your town on a regular basis? Have you seen formerly normal areas become ghetto zones in your lifetime? How would you estimate the average person pulled off the street in your area would say about muslims, and is there any disparity between that and how you'd think they really feel about the situation?


Only discuss Muslims around those who want to hear it, its a sensitive subject around some leftist friends.


Not to give away my exact location, but I regularly encounter a lot of Muslims including the hijab wearing ones and their pathetic male partners walking in front of them like thee shit don't stink.

I hate the fact I have to share my country's resources and the place I grew up with ungrateful, rude, sponging Muslims.


I can already see clumping problems in and near the main city. The same issues that lead up to the paris attack are on my doorstep. I can't believe how many there are here now, nearly every parent I saw had kids or one on the way.


Mosques are popping up everywhere and it seems they are multiplying in areas without much resistance.


I'm tired of these vermin honestly

[D-Wade316]

genuine questions for antimuslim posters:

When you're with people in a public setting and the topic of muslims comes up for whatever reason, are you the same irl as you are on here? Do you see muslims around your town on a regular basis? Have you seen formerly normal areas become ghetto zones in your lifetime? How would you estimate the average person pulled off the street in your area would say about muslims, and is there any disparity between that and how you'd think they really feel about the situation?
Good question. Pretty sure those ******* are nowhere near in real life compared to ISH. The sight of a full-on burqa (including face) will scare these fukkers out. :oldlol:

However, here in the Philippines(island of Mindanao), like who cares. Nobody gives a shit. Life goes on as usual.

[tomtucker]

Only discuss Muslims around those who want to hear it, its a sensitive subject around some leftist friends.


Not to give away my exact location, but I regularly encounter a lot of Muslims including the hijab wearing ones and their pathetic male partners walking in front of them like thee shit don't stink.

I hate the fact I have to share my country's resources and the place I grew up with ungrateful, rude, sponging Muslims.


I can already see clumping problems in and near the main city. The same issues that lead up to the paris attack are on my doorstep. I can't believe how many there are here now, nearly every parent I saw had kids or one on the way.


Mosques are popping up everywhere and it seems they are multiplying in areas without much resistance.


I'm tired of these vermin honestly

a statement many shares, it

[BoutPractice]

Yeah, idiots misinterpreting the texts and going on a killing spree against the members of your own religious group is one of the reasons why organized religion is organized in the first place.

Ironically, the very tendency to control people's behaviours that secular moderns hate about religion partly exists to prevent the sort of religious violence we're seeing today. Without a secular order based on rule of law, a more democratic, contested faith (like Islam or Reformed christianity) often leads to religious war where different interpretations of the rules compete for dominance. So the fundamentalist impulse originally comes from a good place... it just happens to lead to an impasse because the faith is already diverse as a matter of practical fact, and you can't turn back the clock without violence.

In a secular order, it might actually be the opposite. Once the idea that one of the interpretations of the faith can be the source of political legitimacy is off the table, the diversity of faiths reinforces tolerance and the secular order itself because faith is diluted while the law is one. (Whereas it's a more bitter and complicated conflict when the law has to compete with one unified church, say Catholicism... see France in the 20th century, Spain and some Latin American countries)

[poido123]

Source: Australian House of Representatives Group



[B]DON'T FOR ONE MOMENT THINK THEY ARE ADMIRING OUR FLAG. THEY HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA

The Following is written by the Leader of the House of Representatives Group.

I suggest all Australians take the Time to Read this

VERY IMPORTANT DRAFT of my followup to ours and EU leaders and intelligence agencies. QUOTE: THE ISLAM AGENDA

Terrorism had been used as an initial distraction from the bigger picture; it will abate and be replaced by smarter schemes.
It is clear that the Islam objective is to take over and islamise the world and some of these new processes are already in progress but hidden via the terrorism distraction.

It should be clear to our agencies that terrorism is not how they can complete their main objectives, and the new Muslim constitution of Australia gives the biggest clues as it is an Islamic state constitution.

It should be common sense that the only way to succeed so early is via populating and creating their own separate economy within ours and business espionage per the hired well-paid western minds they employ to create such methods.

Halal certification is a minor step in the creation of such economy and business control.

A classic indicative case was the Cadbury case, they went halal, the boycotters have made their business tumble, they then certified but stopped printing it was halal, thus pointless to certify, they saw what happened at Lindt caf

[GIF REACTION]

I'm in Perth but I can't be bothered reading all of that

Give me the summary/TLDR trent

[masonanddixon]

The political leaders of this country have created their own grave.

I don't think Muslims are even that big of an issue here.

The much bigger problem is forced multiculturalism, the coal seam gas industry running rampant, and the baby bonus blunder.

[poido123]

I'm in Perth but I can't be bothered reading all of that

Give me the summary/TLDR trent



It goes into depth things I've already harped on.


It can't be summed in a few words. It's a complex web of infiltration into every corner of business, society and Australian Law.

[BoutPractice]

Is this source real? This reads like some combination of medieval antisemitism and red scare era fear mongering to the point where it's almost hilarious :lol

So it's come to this: otherwise reasonable (well, almost reasonable) people equating "halal" with terrorism and an ordinary Muslim citizen opening a shop to a sinister plot for "taking control of the economy". Recently I read about several politicians taking the fight to... takeaway kebab (kebabs, by the way, are part of Mediterranean cuisine, not just Middle Eastern cuisine... not that it should make a difference...).

We're in danger of becoming Don Quixote, tilting at windmills... Except there's a real fanatical army on the march while we're playing out our fantasies.

[masonanddixon]

Is this source real? This reads like some combination of medieval antisemitism and red scare era fear mongering to the point where it's almost hilarious :lol

So it's come to this: otherwise reasonable (well, almost reasonable) people equating "halal" with terrorism and an ordinary Muslim citizen opening a shop to a sinister plot for "taking control of the economy". Recently I read about several politicians taking the fight to... takeaway kebab (kebabs, by the way, are part of Mediterranean cuisine, not just Middle Eastern cuisine... not that it should make a difference...).

We're in danger of becoming Don Quixote, tilting at windmills... Except there's a real fanatical army on the march while we're playing out our fantasies.

The threat is legitimate but this article is clearly bogus.

[Nick Young]

Why do people think Muslims aren't trying to take over everywhere? It's all written in the Koran. Their tactics are there, their goals are there, and instructions how to do it are there. The prophet of Islam himself was a warmonger who spread his religion through conquest and violence.

[imdaman99]

This is true, I have taken over my park a few times. Won like 10 games in a row on a nice Saturday afternoon. I was like current Curry, but then they gave me the ridiculous nickname of Reggie, as in Reggie Miller. I AM A DAMN KNICKS FAN, AND THEY CALL ME REGGIE! :mad: I wanted to terrorize them some more and hit 3 point bombs in their face over and over.

That was like 8 years ago though, my prime is gone. I am still Reggie. I have my Chef Curry moments, but they are fewer and far between. I am not going to apologize for taking over. If you want to be a btch and cower from me, be my guest.

[Jameerthefear]

Is this source real? This reads like some combination of medieval antisemitism and red scare era fear mongering to the point where it's almost hilarious :lol

So it's come to this: otherwise reasonable (well, almost reasonable) people equating "halal" with terrorism and an ordinary Muslim citizen opening a shop to a sinister plot for "taking control of the economy". Recently I read about several politicians taking the fight to... takeaway kebab (kebabs, by the way, are part of Mediterranean cuisine, not just Middle Eastern cuisine... not that it should make a difference...).

We're in danger of becoming Don Quixote, tilting at windmills... Except there's a real fanatical army on the march while we're playing out our fantasies.
poido is the only poster on this forum who might legit be retarded. this source is likely from the bs conservative scare sites. he's so dumb he thought it was real. he's honestly probably the dumbest person to ever post on ISH

[Nick Young]

Why does the "book of mercy" promote so much violence and death?:confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

The "And slay them wherever you find them..." verse really has no justification.

I mean it's one of the Ten Commandments that all true religions follow.."Thou shall not kill".

So how Muslims and Muslim apologists get that Islam is a peaceful religion from that verse and all the other violent verses is beyond me. Must be the drugs.

[Nick Young]

The "And slay them wherever you find them..." verse really has no justification.

I mean it's one of the Ten Commandments that all true religions follow.."Thou shall not kill".

So how Muslims and Muslim apologists get that Islam is a peaceful religion from that verse and all the other violent verses is beyond me. Must be the drugs.
Apparently the Ten Commandments stopped mattering as soon as Big Mo the illiterate goat herder had his little "divine revelation".

It also became ok to bang 9 year olds and beat women.

They are all well-aware that Islam isn't a peaceful religion. It is a projected front and pure newspeak everytime someone claims Islam is a peaceful religion and justifies and rationalizes violent Koranic verses.


Some of them like imdaman99 seem to genuinely believe that Islam is a peaceful religion but remember, these are the same guys who don't even know the history of Mohammad and haven't even read the whole Koran.

Anyone who has read that book knows exactly what Islam is all about.

A religion that was built on war and conquest and founded by a bloodthirsty conqueror cannot claim to be a "religion of peace".

[Patrick Chewing]

Some of them like imdaman99


I doubt that shyster even owns a Quran or it's been years since he's opened one up. He's no Muslim.

The only Muzzie on here I'd be worried about is Jefferson Money. He's a true blue Muslim. You can tell he's been radicalized. He just hasn't received his orders yet.

[Nick Young]

I doubt that shyster even owns a Quran or it's been years since he's opened one up. He's no Muslim.

The only Muzzie on here I'd be worried about is Jefferson Money. He's a true blue Muslim. You can tell he's been radicalized. He just hasn't received his orders yet.
Yep. slowly but surely his language has become more and more inclined towards rationalizing and justifying violence in the name of Islam.






All you have to do is quote the Koran and they get angry. Why? If you're going to believe in a violent holy book, own that belief. Stop making constant excuses and rationalizations for the violent shit that's written inside.

[imdaman99]

Rent free

[poido123]

poido is the only poster on this forum who might legit be retarded. this source is likely from the bs conservative scare sites. he's so dumb he thought it was real. he's honestly probably the dumbest person to ever post on ISH


:mad:


Who's the idiot who boasts his grade scores on ISH then never leaves the comfort of his own home?


Talk about dumb :hammerhead:

[poido123]

This is true, I have taken over my park a few times. Won like 10 games in a row on a nice Saturday afternoon. I was like current Curry, but then they gave me the ridiculous nickname of Reggie, as in Reggie Miller. I AM A DAMN KNICKS FAN, AND THEY CALL ME REGGIE! :mad: I wanted to terrorize them some more and hit 3 point bombs in their face over and over.

That was like 8 years ago though, my prime is gone. I am still Reggie. I have my Chef Curry moments, but they are fewer and far between. I am not going to apologize for taking over. If you want to be a btch and cower from me, be my guest.



Cringe.

[poido123]

Rent free


In your head?


You responded to this thread, which means it entered your head, then you felt the need to post in it.


:roll:

[Nick Young]

Rent free
^a final desperate bleat of defiance :lol

[poido123]

I doubt that shyster even owns a Quran or it's been years since he's opened one up. He's no Muslim.

The only Muzzie on here I'd be worried about is Jefferson Money. He's a true blue Muslim. You can tell he's been radicalized. He just hasn't received his orders yet.


They are all as bad as each other here.


One day they are posting on ISH, the next they will side with the Islamic army and kill your family. Fundamentalist dictators and crazy Imams within the religion enforce rules through fear and intimidation and will have no trouble doing so to the rest of the Islamic masses.


These fence sitters will become our enemy. I guarantee it.

[imdaman99]

^a final desperate bleat of defiance :lol
What's desperation? You bumping it and begging for my attention...or me saying rent free? :roll:

[imdaman99]

Cringe.
It is all true events though.

What you posted, which I won't read...is all fairy tales and made up stuff from the mixed up files of poido e cuck :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

It is all true events though.

What you posted, which I won't read...is all fairy tales and made up stuff from the mixed up files of poido e cuck :oldlol:
DAMN. Don't do em like that :oldlol:

[Nick Young]

What's desperation? You bumping it and begging for my attention...or me saying rent free? :roll:
:facepalm

This bump is not aimed at you, nor anyone in particular.

Check your solipsism, breh.

Why would you assume my bump was dedicated to you?:lol

It seems like you've accidentally exposed the truth.

The only one getting mindraped here is you.

[poido123]

It is all true events though.

What you posted, which I won't read...is all fairy tales and made up stuff from the mixed up files of poido e cuck :oldlol:



You scared?


Everyone knows you guys are pulling a stealth war. Don't sit there and pretend that you're an upstanding muslim.


Since you and your muslim buddies do nothing to fight ISIS, why do you deserve to remain in western/european countries?

This is a problem within your religion and none of you outside of a few are doing anything about it.


Why shouldn't we be pissed off with your lack of action?!?


I don't see groups of muslims pulling up violent muslims in the street and calling them out???


Why is that.

[imdaman99]

*Posts nickname. Bumps thread. Yeah, I was totally not trying to get anyone's attention...hehe totally :oldlol:

You post nothing of any substance.

Stop obsessing over things. Muslims are not the reason you or chewing or poido or bignbaretard have shitty lives. Nevertheless, you've bored me for far too long. Back on ignore. Pieceout dude :cheers:

[poido123]

*Posts nickname. Bumps thread. Yeah, I was totally not trying to get anyone's attention...hehe totally :oldlol:

You post nothing of any substance.

Stop obsessing over things. Muslims are not the reason you or chewing or poido or bignbaretard have shitty lives. Nevertheless, you've bored me for far too long. Back on ignore. Pieceout dude :cheers:



We won't be ignoring your kind.

Just sayin.


Your mosques no longer go undetected and I will endeavour to make sure there are "extra visitors" inside your mosques.


Fcking scum of the earth religion.

[Jameerthefear]

You scared?


Everyone knows you guys are pulling a stealth war. Don't sit there and pretend that you're an upstanding muslim.


Since you and your muslim buddies do nothing to fight ISIS, why do you deserve to remain in western/european countries?

This is a problem within your religion and none of you outside of a few are doing anything about it.


Why shouldn't we be pissed off with your lack of action?!?


I don't see groups of muslims pulling up violent muslims in the street and calling them out???


Why is that.
You are a crazy son of a bitch.

[poido123]

You are a crazy son of a bitch.



I might be just crazy enough to come give you a beating little shit :D

[Jameerthefear]

I might be just crazy enough to come give you a beating little shit :D
Want my address?

[imdaman99]

We won't be ignoring your kind.

Just sayin.


Your mosques no longer go undetected and I will endeavour to make sure there are "extra visitors" inside your mosques.


Fcking scum of the earth religion.
:roll: :roll: :roll: Muslims got this guy so mad :roll: :roll: :roll:

We welcome you, even though I know you're afraid to go near one. Make sure you remove your tinfoil hat before walking in though :cheers:

[poido123]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Muslims got this guy so mad :roll: :roll: :roll:

We welcome you, even though I know you're afraid to go near one. Make sure you remove your tinfoil hat before walking in though :cheers:



Legit mad.


One day, I won't have to be politically nice to you deceiving muthafckers.


I've had no reason to go into one, but now there's shit going down, I have some reconnaissance to do.


:rockon:

[Jameerthefear]

Legit mad.


One day, I won't have to be politically nice to you deceiving muthafckers.


I've had no reason to go into one, but now there's shit going down, I have some reconnaissance to do.


:rockon:
So what have you been doing IRL, other than logging onto ISH to shitpost about Muslims?

[poido123]

So what have you been doing IRL, other than logging onto ISH to shitpost about Muslims?



Sad.


Didn't think it was this possible to be this far inside your head. Get off my nuts

[Jameerthefear]

Sad.


Didn't think it was this possible to be this far inside your head. Get off my nuts
I asked you a question. Too much of a bitch to answer it?

[poido123]

Back on topic.


Muslims fighting a war that stretches beyond the terorist attacks everyone seems to draw attention to.


If governments and the people don't pay close attention to this, it will be too late by the time they realise.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I might be just crazy enough to come give you a beating little shit :D
Poido gonna fly to the US to beat up a teenager and he thinks he's the most rational being on this site.

[poido123]

Poido gonna fly to the US to beat up a teenager and he thinks he's the most rational being on this site.


i really wouldn't.


I couldn't be bothered...

[Jameerthefear]

Poido gonna fly to the US to beat up a teenager and he thinks he's the most rational being on this site.
He wouldn't. I'd kick his ****ing teeth in the moment he tried to touch me.

[poido123]

He wouldn't. I'd kick his ****ing teeth in the moment he tried to touch me.



:roll: :roll:


You're a funny guy!

[Jameerthefear]

:roll: :roll:


You're a funny guy!
You're a 5'8 fatass who lifts bags for a living. If you even so much as glance at me your teeth would end up in the back of your throat.