Best Player In The World: Curry or LeBron?

[warriorfan]

Chef Dingo all day

[Mr. Jabbar]

is this a trick question? DINGO

[GIF REACTION]

is this a thick question?

[Mike smith]

Kevin Durant

[TommyGriffin]

Kevin Durant

Please keep the Slim Peeper out of this Thick Thread.

[maybeshewill13]

Big Dick Kevin

[dubeta]

The guy with more FMVP votes

[TommyGriffin]

The guy with more FMVP votes

With as much of a fan of 2nd place you are I'm surprised you aren't a Durant stan.

[Naero]

Didn't Curry's courtplay already unequivocally answer this over a month ago? :wtf:

[WayOfWade]

Against all logic, LeBron James

[Springsteen]

With as much of a fan of 2nd place you are I'm surprised you aren't a Durant stan.

What was the point of you making an alt? You don't even have a shtick on this account, it's just the same shit.

[Heavincent]

Curry, quite clearly. I would probably put KD at 2 actually. Bran is 3 for now.

[DMV2]

Bran last 2 games:
35 mins 4-10/1-5/5-9 14p-4r-7a-1s-2b-2to
26 mins 4-13/0-3/4-5 12p-4r-5a-0s-0b-3to

Kyrie got 20 points in 24 mins and a game-sealing clutch 3. Love and JR scored more too.

Bran Best in the World!!!!! But somehow not the best player on his own team. :lol

[TommyGriffin]

What was the point of you making an alt? You don't even have a shtick on this account, it's just the same shit.

:biggums:

[3ball]

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We can statistically prove Steph Curry's superiority, but bear with me a sec...


Here's a list of all the play-types listed on NBA.com, with the percentile rank that 1.00 PPP equates to in each category (the lower the percentile rank, the more efficient the play - as you can see, 1.00 PPP translates to the 60.4 percentile for "off-screen", and the 77.3 percentile for "isolations", so "off-screen" is more efficient):


1) Cut (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/cut/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 18.8 percentile

2) Roll man on screen-rolls (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/roll-man/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 49.3 percentile

3) Off-screen (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/off-screen/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 60.4 percentile

4) Spot-ups (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/spot-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 65.3 percentile

5) Hand-offs (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/hand-off/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 72.4 percentile

6) Isolations (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/isolation/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 77.3 percentile

7) Post-ups (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive): 81.7 percentile

8) Ballhandler on screen-rolls (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/ball-handler/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 91.7 percentile



HERE'S HOW THIS RELATES TO CURRY AND LEBRON

The least efficient play shown above (ballhandler on screen rolls) constitutes 20-25% of the offense for top wings like Lebron, with another 20-25% coming from similarly low efficient isolations.. Essentially, the top wing players in the league use low efficiency ball-dominance over 50% of the time.

Point guards ALSO use the least efficient options - they're the ballhandler on screen rolls for 40% to 60% of their offense.

But the exception is Steph Curry.. He's the ballhandler on screen-rolls for only 24.2% of his offense and only isolates 10% of the time.. He simply employs the higher efficiency OFF-BALL options more often than his peers.

He has Jordan-level acumen because he's smart enough to get his offense off-ball - this is more efficient and gives teammates more opportunity/time with the ball to be comfortable and play their game..

Unlike Lebron, teammates aren't starved of the ball and don't have to subjugate their game to the whim of the #1 option.. Ultimately, Curry is better because his off-ball play makes him more efficient, while giving his team more capacity to reach a higher level of teamwork and superior play.
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[warriorfan]

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Curry is easily the best, but bear with me a sec...


Here's a list of all the play-types listed on NBA.com, with the percentile rank that 1.00 PPP equates to in each category (the higher the percentile rank, the less efficient the play - as you can see, 1.00 PPP translates to the 60.4 percentile for "off-screen", and the 77.3% for "isolations", so "off-screen" is more efficient):


1) Cut (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/cut/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 18.8 percentile

2) Roll man on screen-rolls (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/roll-man/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 49.3 percentile

3) Off-screen (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/off-screen/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 60.4 percentile

4) Spot-ups (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/spot-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 65.3 percentile

5) Hand-offs (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/hand-off/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 72.4 percentile

6) Isolations (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/isolation/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 77.3 percentile

7) Post-ups (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive): 81.7 percentile

8) Ballhandler on screen-rolls (http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/ball-handler/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points): 91.7 percentile



HERE'S HOW THIS RELATES TO CURRY AND LEBRON

The least efficient play shown above (ballhandler on screen rolls) constitutes 20-25% of the offense for top wings like Lebron, with another 20-25% coming from similarly low efficient isolations.. Essentially, the top wing players in the league use low efficiency ball-dominance over 50% of the time.

Point guards ALSO use the least efficient options - they're the ballhandler on screen rolls for 40% to 60% of their offense.

But the exception is Steph Curry.. He's the ballhandler on screen-rolls for only 24.2% of his offense and only isolates 10% of the time.. He simply employs the higher efficiency OFF-BALL options more often than his peers.

He has Jordan-level acumen because he's smart enough to get his offense off-ball - this is more efficient and gives teammates more opportunity/time with the ball to be comfortable and play their game..

Unlike Lebron, teammates aren't starved of the ball and don't have to subjugate their game to the whim of the #1 option.. Ultimately, Curry's off-ball play gives his team more capacity to reach a higher level of teamwork and superior play, which makes him the better player.

I don't see how anyone can argue against any of these points to be completely honest.

[NBASTATMAN]

Curry easily

[MP.Trey]

3 ball was oh so close to a whole post without mentioning Jordan. Almost gained some respect from me.

Anyway, as a huge Cavs fan, and a fan of LeBron as a player, Curry is on another tier right now. I couldn't even make an argument for LeBron, but I'd love to be able to try. We'll see who brings it in the playoffs, that's where these "crowns" are won, lost and/or validated.

[riseagainst]

Curry by a huge margin.