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warriorfan
01-03-2016, 02:05 AM
Draymond in college was not a great scorer nor passer. He was a good defensive player and an energy guy. Playing with and constantly competing with and against the most skilled player in the world has polished his game and taken it to a new level. Let's not forget that Draymond was a second round pick and averaged 10/3/6 in college...

Klay always could shoot but he was a tad Autistic. He was very quiet and shy and wouldn't talk to anyone his first year with the Warriors. Steph Curry mentored Klay and took him under his wing, no pun intended. Curry kept him well fed and got him notoriety as the other "Splash Bro". All this has helped develop Thompson into the player he is today.

Curry and Jordan were both able to create winners out of mediocre prospects.

Terahite
01-03-2016, 02:11 AM
warriorfan shits on dray & klay for months on end but finally bows down :lol

LAZERUSS
01-03-2016, 02:12 AM
Draymond in college was not a great scorer nor passer. He was a good defensive player and an energy guy. Playing with and constantly competing with and against the most skilled player in the world has polished his game and taken it to a new level. Let's not forget that Draymond was a second round pick and averaged 10/3/6 in college...

Klay always could shoot but he was a tad Autistic. He was very quiet and shy and wouldn't talk to anyone his first year with the Warriors. Steph Curry mentored Klay and took him under his wing, no pun intended. Curry kept him well fed and got him notoriety as the other "Splash Bro". All this has helped develop Thompson into the player he is today.

Curry and Jordan were both able to create winners out of mediocre prospects.

Luckily for Curry, Iggy ahowed Curry how to win. Without Iggy...no ring for Curry.

This year, IF the Warriors win, it likely will be Green holding the FMVP.

warriorfan
01-03-2016, 02:15 AM
https://49.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma7bzk0ZSR1rwnpq0o1_400.gif

Rocketswin2013
01-03-2016, 02:15 AM
Curry has this way of making players look better than they are I guess.

Take Matthew Dellavedova in the finals, no? He forged him alright.

DoctorP
01-03-2016, 02:15 AM
:oldlol:


FORGED.

Kvnzhangyay
01-03-2016, 02:32 AM
Klay sucks lol

Draymond though :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Klay's too arrogant and cant back his words up when he needs to like Dray can

deja vu
01-03-2016, 02:34 AM
Draymond has surpassed Curry this season.

raprap
01-03-2016, 02:36 AM
Draygod is the mvp this season. Mygahd what an alpha swinging his big dic k :bowdown:

3ball
01-03-2016, 02:37 AM
Klay was good right away..

Draymond needed some work.. I give Curry credit.. Draymond's inner handle game out due to Curry.. That's obvious.

But neither guy were like this when they came in the league:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0f1EsUVCIU

that type of transformation requires the goat and hard knocks, which isn't necessary in today's game.

warriorfan
01-03-2016, 02:44 AM
Klay was good right away..

Draymond needed some work.. I give Curry credit.. Draymond's inner handle game out due to Curry.. That's obvious.

But neither guy were like this when they came in the league:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0f1EsUVCIU

that type of transformation requires the goat and hard knocks, which isn't necessary in today's game.

Klay always had skills, but he was extremely shy when he first entered the league.

Playing with Curry made things easier for him and allowed him to build confidence with his play. Klay now is really confident and considers himself one of the best shooting guards in the league, he wasn't like that in year one. I doubt Klay has as much swag as he does now if he doesn't get the Splash Brother hype playing next to Curry and never making an All-Star game.

Agreed with Pippen. He was very raw fundamentally, physically, and mentally... He needed a complete overhaul to be turned into the player that he ended up being. And of course Jordan gets the lion's share of the credit when it comes to that.

3ball
01-03-2016, 03:40 AM
Klay always had skills, but he was extremely shy when he first entered the league.

Playing with Curry made things easier for him and allowed him to build confidence with his play. Klay now is really confident and considers himself one of the best shooting guards in the league, he wasn't like that in year one. I doubt Klay has as much swag as he does now if he doesn't get the Splash Brother hype playing next to Curry and never making an All-Star game.

Agreed with Pippen. He was very raw fundamentally, physically, and mentally... He needed a complete overhaul to be turned into the player that he ended up being. And of course Jordan gets the lion's share of the credit when it comes to that.
I agree with Klay actually - my initial statement was a blanket statement because I wanted to talk more about the enigmatic Draymond.

But you're 100% right - Klay's game was been tremendously influenced by Curry, because Curry is also a guard, but he does everything much better than Klay... Klay likely gleans things EVERY DAY from Curry.

and Curry has the IT factor - the goat confidence... This permeates the team, especially more plain-vanilla players like Klay..

The IT factor is huge - all the best players have it to a degree, but players like Curry have goat SKILL, which makes their confidence UNWAVERING (i.e. he doesn't look to the bench with dismay when an athlete of equal athelticism enters the game, because he has the skill to supercede it, so his confidence remains at the top)..

We see this kind of goat skill and corresponding confidence and IT factor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enna-TEgE4o&t=0m40s) once a generation.

LAZERUSS
01-03-2016, 10:36 AM
Yep...without Jordan drafting a 6-0 nerdy white guy with the shooting touch of Drummond...

we would have never seen this transformation into a 6-8 HOFer. A beer-bellied Pippen, with coke-bottle glasses, would have been playing ball at the local Y without MJ.

3ball
01-03-2016, 03:17 PM
a troll by lazeruss... no waay

3ball
01-03-2016, 03:17 PM
:rolleyes:

3ball
01-03-2016, 03:18 PM
Yep...without Jordan drafting a 6-0 nerdy white guy with the shooting touch of Drummond...

we would have never seen this transformation into a 6-8 HOFer. A beer-bellied Pippen, with coke-bottle glasses, would have been playing ball at the local Y without MJ.



Pippen wasn't THAT easily replaced, but he was a worse 2nd option and replaceable by all these guys:


Shaq (2005 and 2006)
Magic (1979)
Kareem (nearly every year)
McHale (nearly every year)
Kobe (nearly every year)
Duncan (since 2008)
Durant or Westbrook (every year)
Lebron (2011)
Wade (2012)
Penny (1995 and 1996)
David Robinson or Duncan (1998)
Stockton (every year)
Shawn Kemp (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12000670&postcount=12) (1996 - look it up - RS, PO and Finals - not close at all)
Drexler (1995)
Gasol (2009 and 2010)


Even if you disagree with 1 or 2 here and there - most of them are valid - Pippen simply wasn't a top 10 second option..

But I will concede that there were far more 3rd options (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393882) better than Horace (nearly half the league's 3rd options were better), and ditto for 4th options - there were a super ton of 4th options (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393894) better than BJ Armstrong (i.e. Byron Scott/Michael Cooper/AC Green... Ray Allen... Dennis Johnson... Manu or Kawhi).

The reason MJ still won 6 rings despite having a 2nd option that wasn't top 10, and 3rd/4th options that were pedestrian, is because Jordan scored a higher proportion of his team's points than anyone ever has, including at least 10 ppg more than Pippen in every playoff series of their CAREERS (except two, when MJ scored 8 ppg and 5 ppg more).. He also scored 50% (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392376) of his team's 4th quarter points in playoffs and Finals (while he was on the floor).

In addition to his goat scoring and clutch, MJ also led his team in passing by assisting on the highest proportion of teammate FG's (MJ led his team in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49))..

No other player in history was required to score 10 more ppg than their 2nd option for every playoff series of their careers, AND lead the team in passing.
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TommyGriffin
01-03-2016, 03:27 PM
Pippen, Draymond, and Thompson all got to practice day in and day out with some of the Greatest of All Time in Michael Jordan and Steph Curry. It's easy to see that playing with players of this caliber every day improves their game to levels that they were not able to reach with out playing with them.

Imagine an underdeveloped Scottie Pippen joining the Clippers in 1987 instead of the Bulls. Instead of playing with the GOAT every day he is going to be playing with some bums on a complete dumpster team. He is not going to be the same player as he turned out to be when he was drafted by the Bulls.

Same goes for Draymond and Thompson. If Draymond gets drafted to the 76ers does he still bring the same intensity that fuels his game nightly? Does he get the same looks and distributing opportunities when not playing with Steph Curry? The answer is probably not.

So it is quite fair to say that in someway, Jordan and Curry "forged" the role players that were drafted onto their teams.

SexSymbol
01-03-2016, 03:50 PM
I agree with the points you make in the OP, I just think you're a pathetic loser who twists around his opinions based on the singular performances that happened yesterday.
Either they're terrible players who can't do shit without Curry, or Curry forged them into good players, you can't choose both.

Deuce Bigalow
01-03-2016, 08:17 PM
Luckily for Curry, Iggy ahowed Curry how to win. Without Iggy...no ring for Curry.

This year, IF the Warriors win, it likely will be Green holding the FMVP.
Should've taught Wilt, would've helped .333

IGOTGAME
01-03-2016, 09:30 PM
Biggest influences on Draymomd Green:

1) Draymomd Green
2) Mark Jackson