There is no one in NBA history that can finish with their off hand like Kyrie Irving

[Jameerthefear]

Not one player in NBA history. He's the GOAT offhand finisher and it isn't close.

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These finishes are insane.

[FrobeShaw]

I think he's the most crafty under the rim finisher the game has seen

[SexSymbol]

Kobe, Bird, MJ had notorously great off-hands. Kobe hits left hand hooks routinely up to this day.
Some names that don't get mentioned in these kind of discussions are tmac and Nash, who both were very good shotting with the off-hand

[Dr Hawk]

Kobe, Bird, MJ had notorously great off-hands. Kobe hits left hand hooks routinely up to this day.
Some names that don't get mentioned in these kind of discussions are tmac and Nash, who both were very good shotting with the off-hand


Good one

[Ariza4three]

He combines athleticism, skill, and trickiness like no one else.

[Straight_Ballin]

How does an ambidextrous player have an "off hand" ?!?

[sd3035]

Along with Curry and Durant, the most skilled player the game has ever seen

Good time to be a basketball fan :applause:

[Doranku]

One of the most exciting players in the league when he's healthy. Dude is a magician out there on the court, I really hope he can stay injury-free throughout the playoffs this year.

Would be great basketball to see him and Curry go at it in the finals.

[KiiiiNG]

How does an ambidextrous player have an "off hand" ?!?
He shoots with his right hand retard, stop trying so hard. You fail every single time.

[SexSymbol]

Along with Curry and Durant, the most skilled player the game has ever seen

Good time to be a basketball fan :applause:
Durant isn't that skilled.
He's a great shooter and the best SF-PF ball handler in the league, but he's not crafty in the post even if he's very effective from there.
He has his few basic moves that he does perfectly and are very hard to stop

[PsychoBe]

what kyrie does a lot to trick defenders is that he generally finishes with the wrong hand.

i.e. he would make a left handed lay-up on the right side of the basket, or a right handed lay-up on the left side. and because he knows how to play the glass so well, it's generally easy for him to do.

he explained in a youtube video that he got so good by doing the mikan drill over and over and over and over again.

[FrobeShaw]

Durant isn't that skilled.
He's a great shooter and the best SF-PF ball handler in the league, but he's not crafty in the post even if he's very effective from there.
He has his few basic moves that he does perfectly and are very hard to stop
:roll:

[SexSymbol]

:roll:
He's definitely not ATG level in terms of skills.

[Jameerthefear]

I think he's the most crafty under the rim finisher the game has seen
Most definitely

[PsychoBe]

by the way as good as kyrie is, i'm gonna throw a name out that the youngin's don't know about.

rod strickland. the things he was able to do under the rim was folklore. and what's even more amazing is the fact that he couldn't shoot. he couldn't shoot, wouldn't shoot, every defender knew that he wouldn't shoot, but he'd still lay it in every single time.

[Rose]

by the way as good as kyrie is, i'm gonna throw a name out that the youngin's don't know about.

rod strickland. the things he was able to do under the rim was folklore. and what's even more amazing is the fact that he couldn't shoot. he couldn't shoot, wouldn't shoot, every defender knew that he wouldn't shoot, but he'd still lay it in every single time.
:applause:

[Jyap9675]

Yea its true kyrie makes it look beautiful using the off hand. Best off hand floater goes to mike conley tho.

[34-24 Footwork]

Steve Nash deserves a nod in this category....except he did everything without working so hard. Everything looked effortless and smooth. When a big man got switched on to him, he either dribbled for a few seconds and shot a pull up 15footer. Or he killed the big man with a hesitation and almost ALWAYS finished with his off hand at the rim

[Kblaze8855]

Im not sure Lebron isnt actually left handed.

[KungFuJoe]

No mention of Curry?

His left is as good as his right. He routinely finishes tough lay ups with his left.

Just a few games ago...I think against Memphis...he blew by two defenders with his left, did a single hand gather, then someone grabbed him trying to stop the layup and yanked him to the side...he still finished the And1.

Wish I could find that clip.

[Spurs m8]

Finishing off around the rim with their off hand...

What a gay thread

[LoneyROY7]

Arguably the best finisher in basketball tbh.

[FrobeShaw]

Finishing off around the rim with their off hand...

What a gay thread
care to finish me off with your off hand? prefer your hands trembling like kawhi at the freethrow line of a close game

[Spurs m8]

care to finish me off with your off hand? prefer your hands trembling like kawhi at the freethrow line of a close game

Rent free

[RedBlackAttack]

by the way as good as kyrie is, i'm gonna throw a name out that the youngin's don't know about.

rod strickland. the things he was able to do under the rim was folklore. and what's even more amazing is the fact that he couldn't shoot. he couldn't shoot, wouldn't shoot, every defender knew that he wouldn't shoot, but he'd still lay it in every single time.
...and did you know Rod Stickland is Kyrie's godfather?

Yes, Strickland was a fantastic finisher around the basket.

Kyrie has the best handle I have ever seen and is one of the best below-the-rim finishers I've ever seen. Combine those traits with an elite jumpshot and you have a player that can fit into any offense seamlessly.

He's the most entertaining basketball players I have ever watched. I'm not saying he's one of the best players ever, obviously, but when it comes down to pure entertainment value, Kyrie stands amongst the greats for me.

He made some really bad Cavs teams still really fun to watch.

He is starting to look like his old self. The major thing missing since he came back a few games ago is his jumpshot. It has been off thus far, but that's the last thing I'm worried about. It'll come around.


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[Straight_Ballin]

He shoots with his right hand retard, stop trying so hard. You fail every single time.

So what? He throws a football with his left. Look up what ambidextrous means you moron.

[Pointguard]

John Wall is the best with his off hand if you count everything and he finishes harder than any other player as well. His dribble and body show no favor at all when he goes hard to his left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWAxn3l1Gjs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOSG03wqKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EzzyfIw5zQ

Aesthtically I like Rose on lefthanded reverses, scoops and dips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqiqQYqXuwU - Athletic Beauty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXpFLjfMLDc - Super Scoop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtLGFvHFfUI - Dunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMAlRgylT04 - left handed spin on backboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01CYExpjxJs - explosion, dribble and finish against Heat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08m0os1qwX4 - acrobatic

[RedBlackAttack]

^^^Wall's handle isn't even in the same stratosphere as Irving's. Wall is a straight-line driver, and he's really good at it because he has lots of athletic gifts (size, speed, leaping ability) and a quick first step when he isn't being forced to change direction. But, he and Kyrie are far too different to really even compare.

Hell, if anything, Wall is an above-the-rim guy. When he gets a clear lane to the basket (as was the case in every video you posted), he can flash there in an instant and flush it with either hand... even in traffic. This isn't about minimizing his impact... they just have different gifts.

Rose is another one who won the genetic lottery, and a guy who used it when attacking the basket. He can't do it as consistently anymore because his body has taken too much wear and tear.

Irving is about finesse, quickness in changing direction, skill in using the square, showing the ball on one side of the basket and finishing on the other, etc.



I guess I just assumed we were talking about below-the-rim, finesse guys. Rod Strickland was a great call. There was a time when Tony Parker was damn good at it. Other current guys might be Curry and Dragic... both crafty guards around the basket and in traffic.

[JohnFreeman]

Kyrie and Prime DWade are those players that make a shot go in and you are like "wtf did I just see"

[KiiiiNG]

So what? He throws a football with his left. Look up what ambidextrous means you moron.
:facepalm

It doesn't matter what you do off the basketball court... if you shoot with your right, then your left is considered your "off hand"

Everyone knows what the word means you ****ing numb-skull. You're just autistic.

[theaussieguy]

Meh the good thing about him is he can shoot, but I have come to realize that such a game which relies on miliseconds, youth and athleticism is always balancing on a needle point. Same thing happened with rose who founded basically his entire game on only justtt getting a ridiculous shot off. You can't sustain that play for ur entire career and seeing how many injuries kyrie has had already, you have to worry how much longer he can sustain this 'miracle' kind of play.

He is far better off refining his game to becoming an elite pass first PG, not this sporadic attacking force he is now, for his and his teams sake.

[ClipperRevival]

He was just blessed with game. You can learn skills up to a certain point but the stuff this guy does to break down defenders and get off impossible shots time and time again is in your DNA. He's already a GOAT level finisher overall and with the off hand.

[Prime_Shaq]

MJ though

[Pointguard]

^^^Wall's handle isn't even in the same stratosphere as Irving's. Wall is a straight-line driver, and he's really good at it because he has lots of athletic gifts (size, speed, leaping ability) and a quick first step when he isn't being forced to change direction. But, he and Kyrie are far too different to really even compare.
Who said handle??? I was talking about his fluidity. Wall finishes much stronger, and can do the fancy stuff. Wall's left hand handle is flawless. He can dribble the whole length of the court left handed at full speed and dunk in traffic. I never seen that from Kyrie. The topic is finish with their off hand right?


Hell, if anything, Wall is an above-the-rim guy. When he gets a clear lane to the basket (as was the case in every video you posted), he can flash there in an instant and flush it with either hand... even in traffic. This isn't about minimizing his impact... they just have different gifts.

The topic is finishing right?


Rose is another one who won the genetic lottery, and a guy who used it when attacking the basket. He can't do it as consistently anymore because his body has taken too much wear and tear.
Watch how you talk about people's injuries. Kyrie isn't free from his. Why are you talking about Rose's injuries anyway. It has no validation here.

David Lee is also one of the best in showing that he there is no noticeable indication that he has a weaker hand.

[ClipperRevival]

MJ though

MJ is just a given in any category regarding finishing and attacking the basket.

[catch24]

Are you trolling OP? Today, Kyrie probably has the best off hand while finishing, but Jordan and Kobe had just as good of an off hand near the basket. Jordan's reverse, off handed layups were phucking ridiculous.

[Duffy Pratt]

Only thing OP got right is that it's not even close:

http://youtu.be/I5k593G5dCU

[sportjames23]

Finishing off around the rim with their off hand...

What a gay thread


Was waiting for this. :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

Was waiting for this. :oldlol:
Not surprised. You act like a ****ing 12 year old

[sportjames23]

Not surprised. You act like a ****ing 12 year old


At least I don't get aroused by tweens like you do, pervert. :lol

[3ball]

I'm being honest here - the easiest left hander to make is when you have a head of steam towards the rim, and you take off one leg.

I'm going to post some gifs of GOAT left hand shots...

[WayOfWade]

I'm being honest here - the easiest left hander to make is when you have a head of steam towards the rim, and you take off one leg.

I'm going to post some gifs of GOAT left hand shots...
Does that mean you are dishonest in other posts?

[3ball]

Does that mean you are dishonest in other posts?
No, but some of the stuff I post is so contrary to many posters rudimentary understanding of the game, that I'm accused of lying or being disingenuous or any number of names.

I figured that me saying Kyrie's shots were actually the easiest way to make a left handed shot on defenders would be received with skepticism... But it's 100% true.. Most good players are essentially ambidextrous in the situations OP posted.

[3ball]

here we go... the goat 2-point finisher.

[3ball]

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NO ONE in history has it like this... There's about 50 more of these on MJ's reverse layup video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vBc395dSg4

[Ariza4three]

Can you post all 50 as gifs please?

[JohnFreeman]

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[iznogood]

Mike Conley is the best off-hand finishing guard easily. The runners he makes regularly are more difficoult than anything posted so fa in this thread.
The best off-hand finishing big is most likely Donatas Motiejunas, though Bogut had a tremendous off-hand finishing skills.
Larry Bird had some of the most difficoult left hand finishes I've ever seen.

[3ball]

Can you post all 50 as gifs please?
Nice troll - I'll play ball - it would be easier for you to watch the video than look at 50 gifs itt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1FsD9Y7NfY


It's worthwhile, since no one else in history can finish like that.

[Jameerthefear]

Yeah, not impressed. Kyrie's were way better. Got a whole video of his off hand finishes.

[JohnFreeman]

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How?

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[ClipperRevival]

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NO ONE in history has it like this... There's about 50 more of these on MJ's reverse layup video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vBc395dSg4

True. No one in the history of the game has come even close to being as devastating as MJ on the baseline due to his ability to jump from one side of the basket and finish on the other side with relative ease. He made the incredibly difficult look easy that we just take it for granted.

[f0und]

jordan and its not even close. go watch the video "Michael Jordan: Legend of the Greatest". its about 5 1/2 hours long. you'll find about 50 jawdropping lefty layups.....in the first hour alone.

[ClipperRevival]

MJ was so devastating on the baseline that the Jordan Rules entailed that they funnel him to the middle of the basket. In most cases, you want to funnel the offensive player baseline because the baseline is considered another defender. But not with MJ. He was just too devastating at baseline that the Pistons took their chances with MJ in the middle, where he had more options.

The video below best explains what the Jordan Rules were from the horses mouth (Detroit players, coaches).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GYKrcM1k0U

[G-train]

He is an amazing finisher with left but hard to say he is the best ever. Certainly the current number one for mine.

[3ball]

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Let's see Kyrie do this:


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Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypnq7wR_3h4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6SEObIU27o

[RedBlackAttack]

Who said handle??? I was talking about his fluidity. Wall finishes much stronger, and can do the fancy stuff. Wall's left hand handle is flawless. He can dribble the whole length of the court left handed at full speed and dunk in traffic. I never seen that from Kyrie. The topic is finish with their off hand right?

The topic is finishing right?

Watch how you talk about people's injuries. Kyrie isn't free from his. Why are you talking about Rose's injuries anyway. It has no validation here.

David Lee is also one of the best in showing that he there is no noticeable indication that he has a weaker hand.
1. I won't speak for the OP, but based on the way the conversation in the thread was trending, the discussion was focused on off-hand finishing below the rim. Otherwise, we can open this up to big men like Hakeem and forwards like LeBron.

Like you said, we've never seen Kyrie fly down the lane and dunk in traffic. Likewise, there are acrobatic off-hand finishes that Kyrie makes look routine that I have never seen Wall complete.

2. I brought up Rose's injuries because they have quite clearly resonated in his game. Although Kyrie has had his share of bumps and bruises -- no cartilage or ligament damage fwiw -- we have not seen it take a toll on the way he plays or his impact as a slasher. I'd submit that Rose is not the consistently explosive athlete that we once witnessed... unfortunately for the league and basketball fans.

[buddha]

as someone who is ambidextrous it blows my mind people have trouble using one of their hands.

but in my opinion LeBron James is the goat off-hand finisher. He's left handed so the layups he makes with his right hand are a thing of beauty. here is one for an example..


















http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4903869/lebron-james-layup-airball-o.gif

[Pointguard]

2. I brought up Rose's injuries because they have quite clearly resonated in his game. Although Kyrie has had his share of bumps and bruises -- no cartilage or ligament damage fwiw -- we have not seen it take a toll on the way he plays or his impact as a slasher. I'd submit that Rose is not the consistently explosive athlete that we once witnessed... unfortunately for the league and basketball fans.
Cool.

On Que, Rose rocked this left-hand reverse the next day. This one I don't recall anybody ever doing.
http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/01/derrick-rose-reverse-layup-bucks

[Pointguard]

When David Lee stays in the post, which he does for whole games, you can't tell which hand he is. He's the only player like that. There is no favor at all.

[RoseCity07]

Brandon Roy in his prime was better. He primarily finished with his left hand. Not to mention, there are probably a ton of players better at it then both of them.

[Dro]

jordan and its not even close. go watch the video "Michael Jordan: Legend of the Greatest". its about 5 1/2 hours long. you'll find about 50 jawdropping lefty layups.....in the first hour alone.
This...:applause:

Its still MJ and its really not that close. Folks might not wanna hear that though..

But for the purposes of this thread? I thought Rod Strickland was a GREAT call...Jermaine Oneal anyone?

[Stout]

Brandon Roy was amazing at finishing with his left hand despite being a right handed shooter.