Rotten Tomatoes critics: The Force Awakens (94%)

[Mr. Jabbar]

Does anyone care to explain how this recycled, unmemorable, cliche compilation, piece of shit got that high of a rating????? the new darth vader is EMO and gets bullied by everyone including the comic characters ffs

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2015/05/Star-Wars-Adam-Driver.jpg

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_vii_the_force_awakens/

[WayOfWade]

I think it also got an 8.6 on IMDb, which kind of makes it one of the top 100 goat movies there although I'll have to research to be sure

[imdaman99]

Critics will never attack a Disney movie, plain and simple.

I did like the movie, but it is definitely recycled.

[dunksby]

Commission?

[ThePhantomCreep]

TFA has breathed fresh oxygen into the lifeless body that was the Star Wars franchise. In a few days it will pass Dances With Smurfs for #1 in domestic box office.

It's a critical AND commercial smash.

Don't like it? Nobody gives a shit.

[Smook B]

Nostalgia is very strong.

[Nick Young]

GOAT movie:bowdown:

[CavaliersFTW]

the farce awakens :lol

Most real world people I've talked to about the movie have ranged between "it was okay" to "I didn't like it" and a few even agreed that is was unenjoyable and the worst star wars movie.

A few people on facebook claimed it was good. All were what I would call "strong" women, the pants wearing kind that probably got a kick out of Rey's superwoman gimmick.

[chosen_one6]

You're in the vocal minority. A lot of people enjoyed the film. Deal with it.

[GIF REACTION]

The whole jist of it was they felt they could get away with the same ****ing movie as ANH because it's been decades... They were right... Honestly, I prefer the prequels just because they were actual new stories...

Phantom Menace > TFA

And I'm NOT joking

[LJJ]

The top 50 or so movies all have a similar RT score:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/?year=2015

Mission Impossible, The Martian, Mad Max, Ex Machina. Are you telling me TFA doesn't belong in that company?

[GIF REACTION]

Personally I don't judge movies off aggregate scores. I always trusted my boy Roger Ebert to give me the scoop but he's dead now and chumps run his reviewing now

I think the hype did a number on a lot of reviewers... The event of a Star Wars movie fogged and pressured reviewers to give it a good score... It's a great Sci-Fi movie, but the problem is, it's a re-hashed shitty Star Wars movie.

[BigTicket]

I actually thought the movie would be good based on the reviews, it was not.

Many of the scenes were recycled from earlier movies, the acting was horrible, the "surprises" were all predictable, the dialogue was childish, and the ending was one of the worst I have ever seen.

[Legends66NBA7]

Most real world people I've talked to about the movie have ranged between "it was okay" to "I didn't like it" and a few even agreed that is was unenjoyable and the worst star wars movie.

Ugh, sounds nothing like "most real world people". This comment actually sounds like a real farce if anything.

"Most real world people" are just slightly below to close to that rating. This is far from the worst Star Wars movie.

[Legends66NBA7]

And what is point of trying to explain this to you OP ? You've already made up you're mind since this all black and white to you.

[Legends66NBA7]

Reception of the movie has been very black and white overall.


I feel like it does get a bit overrated, but at the same time people treat this movie like it was garbage which it clearly wasn't.

No, that's just ISH.

[Legends66NBA7]

Read imdb reviews. It has an average user review score of like 1.6 or something putrid

Rather read it from here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?filter=prolific


I read 8.5 overall.

[DonD13]

Walt Disney bought internet votes in India.

[Godzuki]

honestly Rotten Tomatoes has too many out of touch pretentious assholes writing reviews on the critic side and too many marketed brainwashed sheep on the reader review side. it gives sort of a gauge to go see something where i'll usually go by the reader reviews way before the critics but even then you need to take all that with a grain of salt.

i'll usually look for a review on the reader review side with criticisms since at least they're being judgemental and not some hyped fanboy

[Mr. Jabbar]

The whole jist of it was they felt they could get away with the same ****ing movie as ANH because it's been decades... They were right... Honestly, I prefer the prequels just because they were actual new stories...

Phantom Menace > TFA

And I'm NOT joking

true

[Duderonomy]

Mission Impossible Rogue nation also got a similar rating that was a very average action movie. I enjoyed it more than the Prequels, seriously did you forget how bad Jar jar was?

[BarberSchool]

Jar Jar Binx was the worst character in the entire 7 part saga so far. But kindergarten Vader in a pod race, and good/moral sociopolitical storytelling saved that film from the disgrace that was Jar Jar.

Yoda was the best. Han Solo 2nd. And in this blatant rewrite of "A new hope", Abrams inexcusably has an emo sith wannabe, face off and murder solo exactly like Luke faced off/sliced the real sith villain. Likely because Disney didn't want to pay Harrison ford for two more episodes.

If you never saw any other Star Wars films, this new rushed turd would make you think they aren't worth watching.

I mean, the corny 80's top-gun catch phrase "we've got company" was used 4 d@mn times in the farce awakens. Once is too many. Dope visuals, but unbelievably lazy writing and storytelling.

Disney putting a volume guy like Abrams in charge of the greatest sci-fi saga ever, is similar yet worse than letting JR Smith be the captain on the USA Olympic team.

[Nick Young]

Everyone who things this movie is bad is in the wrong.


RT 94% rating>random ISHiots and opinions of people who like garbage like the Hateful 8.

[ROCSteady]

The movie def isn't bad but rather felt more above average.

It doesn't deserve high levels of praise but I would say it was the arbitrary good with not much to it really. The next movie needs to swing for the fences and take some chances

I'm still very curious about Leader Snoke, as his revelation has much more of a chance to be provocative than whatever we learn about Rey

[DonDadda59]

The movie def isn't bad but rather felt more above average.

It doesn't deserve high levels of praise but I would say it was the arbitrary good with not much to it really. The next movie needs to swing for the fences and take some chances

I'm still very curious about Leader Snoke, as his revelation has much more of a chance to be provocative than whatever we learn about Rey

The next Episodes writer/director also made Looper which was one of the most original and creative Sci Fi films to come out in at least the past decade. I hope Disney lets him take off the training wheels and doesn't force him to do a paint by number remake of the Empire Strikes Back.

[ROCSteady]

Yea I'm aware of Rian Johnson's reputation. He seems a good fit for taking the story of the next movie to a more memorable level.

I love Looper, it has great stay in my movie consciousness. The child Rainmaker and the Rainmaker concept in general were great writing and casting

[Mr. Jabbar]

Its refreshing to be a part of ish. Glad to see how many here acknowledge what a huge pile of crap this movie was.

Still have big hope for what the next director will do with VIII and IX

[DonDadda59]

Yea I'm aware of Rian Johnson's reputation. He seems a good fit for taking the story of the next movie to a more memorable level.

I love Looper, it has great stay in my movie consciousness. The child Rainmaker and the Rainmaker concept in general were great writing and casting

What Vader should've been in the Phantom Menace. :applause:

[KyrieTheFuture]

Let's put it this way, if this was the first star wars, no one would like it

[Andrei89]

Only the Empire Strikes Back is better than the Force Awakens.

I guess some nerds just cant comprehend a more complex character like Kylo Ren. If he would have been just the one dimensional bad ass like Darth Vader everyone would be like "wow such a good villain".

Kylo Ren is one of my favorite Star Wars characters as of now. His struggle with himself, insecurities paired with his great power makes him a great Star Wars character.

Sure he got beaten by a girl who " never used a lightsaber" yet it is damn obvious that she was one of Luke's padawans before the massacre and probably used a light saber before. Not to mention he was badly injured and just killed his father.

The only problem I had with TFA is the Death Star volume 3. That shit is played out.

edit: I would also rate Revenge of the Sith just as good as TFA

[Stout]

The goal for this film is not a perfect film, but recapturing the feel of the originals. It did that, and the critics obviously appreciated that it was able to do that. Especially after the disaster the prequels were.

[Terahite]

The goal for this film is not a perfect film, but recapturing the feel of the originals. It did that, and the critics obviously appreciated that it was able to do that. Especially after the disaster the prequels were.

Blah blah blah just repeat the party line you tool. Critics are assholes who are paid to like this kind of tripe.

[Stout]

Blah blah blah just repeat the party line you tool. Critics are assholes who are paid to like this kind of tripe.
You know that critics aren't paid by Disney, right?

[BlazerRed]

TFA > your existence.

[tomtucker]

Jar Jar Binx was the worst character in the entire 7 part saga so far. But kindergarten Vader in a pod race, and good/moral sociopolitical storytelling saved that film from the disgrace that was Jar Jar.

Yoda was the best. Han Solo 2nd. And in this blatant rewrite of "A new hope", Abrams inexcusably has an emo sith wannabe, face off and murder solo exactly like Luke faced off/sliced the real sith villain. Likely because Disney didn't want to pay Harrison ford for two more episodes.

If you never saw any other Star Wars films, this new rushed turd would make you think they aren't worth watching.

I mean, the corny 80's top-gun catch phrase "we've got company" was used 4 d@mn times in the farce awakens. Once is too many. Dope visuals, but unbelievably lazy writing and storytelling.

Disney putting a volume guy like Abrams in charge of the greatest sci-fi saga ever, is similar yet worse than letting JR Smith be the captain on the USA Olympic team.

someone really says that in this new star wars movie ?

:facepalm :eek: :rolleyes:

almost all reviews on imdb are negative.......will not pay a dime, will wait for download for sure

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I trust IMDb far more than Rotten Tomatoes. I have made the mistake of watching films that had great Rotten Tomatoes reviews but very mediocre IMDb movies. I've learned IMDb better molds with my taste in movies.

The movie was alright honestly. The antagonist was pretty much as weak in the force as Darth Maul but without any lightsaber skills. Aka it's a weak era in the Star Wars dark side.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Only the Empire Strikes Back is better than the Force Awakens.

I guess some nerds just cant comprehend a more complex character like Kylo Ren. If he would have been just the one dimensional bad ass like Darth Vader everyone would be like "wow such a good villain".

Kylo Ren is one of my favorite Star Wars characters as of now. His struggle with himself, insecurities paired with his great power makes him a great Star Wars character.

Sure he got beaten by a girl who " never used a lightsaber" yet it is damn obvious that she was one of Luke's padawans before the massacre and probably used a light saber before. Not to mention he was badly injured and just killed his father.

The only problem I had with TFA is the Death Star volume 3. That shit is played out.

edit: I would also rate Revenge of the Sith just as good as TFA

Is that a prediction or was that in one of the books or something?

[Duderonomy]

Can we agree Guardians of the Galaxy was better than the Force Awakens?

http://uploads.neatorama.com/images/posts/638/72/72638/1401896522-1.jpg

[Terahite]

You know that critics aren't paid by Disney, right?

I didn't say Disney explicitly, but you do know Disney owns ABC which has film critics right?

[hateraid]

Am I the only one who sees these movies as popcorn flicks and a great venue to share with the family?
Waaaayyy to many people are dissecting the crap out of these movies. Sure there are holes, but overall a great experience to take the family out. Who really is the intended target? All I know is my son had a great time, the families in the theatre loved it, and we loved it as a family.

[falc39]

Am I the only one who sees these movies as popcorn flicks and a great venue to share with the family?
Waaaayyy to many people are dissecting the crap out of these movies. Sure there are holes, but overall a great experience to take the family out. Who really is the intended target? All I know is my son had a great time, the families in the theatre loved it, and we loved it as a family.

If we go by that reasoning, then the prequels are great fun films with a lot of action too. Why so much hate for them?

The reason is the Star wars fan base is made up of more than just families and people wanting to see a typical popcorn flick.

The amount of hype this movie got was absurd. It was nowhere near as good as people were making it out to be. There are a ton of "fun" films that I watched over the last couple of years and I'm sure this coming year also that will be as good or better than TFA.

[~primetime~]

If we go by that reasoning, then the prequels are great fun films with a lot of action too. Why so much hate for them?

The reason is the Star wars fan base is made up of more than just families and people wanting to see a typical popcorn flick.

The amount of hype this movie got was absurd. It was nowhere near as good as people were making it out to be. There are a ton of "fun" films that I watched over the last couple of years and I'm sure this coming year also that will be as good or better than TFA.
So you're just all worked up over the 'hype' then?...you're mad at your own expectations


mine were low, because of the prequels...this movie blew them away

[hateraid]

If we go by that reasoning, then the prequels are great fun films with a lot of action too. Why so much hate for them?

The reason is the Star wars fan base is made up of more than just families and people wanting to see a typical popcorn flick.

The amount of hype this movie got was absurd. It was nowhere near as good as people were making it out to be. There are a ton of "fun" films that I watched over the last couple of years and I'm sure this coming year also that will be as good or better than TFA.
Those fun films are going to be judged in the same way by the same families who pay to see them. Your critique is based on a personal expectation. I doubt families going out are walking out of these movies talking about the holes in it. Just like there are holes in all great all time flicks. Toy Story, Lion King....they had holes. But families don't go in with those expectations. They go in to spend a lot of money so them and their kids enjoy. TFA isn't going for an Academy. Sure, I've broken down some things I didn't get. But it didn't destroy the movie for me. This is a popcorn flick that was really fun.

[falc39]

So you're just all worked up over the 'hype' then?...you're mad at your own expectations


mine were low, because of the prequels...this movie blew them away

I grew up watching the original trilogy.

So you liked the movie because of how bad the prequels were? Are you not commiting the same kind of error you are accusing me of? People have different expectations. I don't see what is wrong with that.

And yes, it's not a good thing in general when a movie is overhyped and then dissapoints.

[falc39]

Those fun films are going to be judged in the same way by the same families who pay to see them. Your critique is based on a personal expectation. I doubt families going out are walking out of these movies talking about the holes in it. Just like there are holes in all great all time flicks. Toy Story, Lion King....they had holes. But families don't go in with those expectations. They go in to spend a lot of money so them and their kids enjoy. TFA isn't going for an Academy. Sure, I've broken down some things I didn't get. But it didn't destroy the movie for me. This is a popcorn flick that was really fun.

Sure.. I already said it was a fun movie a long time ago. I've seen a lot of fun movies lately. Its nothing special. I don't really see it as a good star wars movie because I've seen what a good star wars movie can be. I grew up as a star wars fan so sorry that I come in with higher expectations than just a "popcorn flick".

Lion king and Toy story blow TFA out of the water. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence even if all three are considered family films

[Terahite]

falc39 = voice of reason

And people still think this is a troll thread. :facepalm

TFA fans are taking Ls like rain but it's not a troll thread. :dancin

[hateraid]

Sure.. I already said it was a fun movie a long time ago. I've seen a lot of fun movies lately. Its nothing special. I don't really see it as a good star wars movie because I've seen what a good star wars movie can be. I grew up as a star wars fan so sorry that I come in with higher expectations than just a "popcorn flick".

Lion king and Toy story blow TFA out of the water. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence even if all three are considered family films
I grew up on Star Wars as well. I went to the theatre to watch empire Strikes Back and sat on my dad's lap. First movie I ever watched. And like every movie that's ever followed in the franchise I take it for face value and not have expectations but see it for the experience. I'm not trying to rate this as a movie comparing it with cinematic greats. It's a family friendly film. It's not intended to be compared to Citizen Kane.

As for the comparison to Lion King or Toy story, again, based on the experience not rating it as a movie. In fact as a family we enjoyed TFA even more. I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

[SpecialQue]

It's too entertaining to give it a negative review, plus you only really notice that it's a piece of shit several hours after watching it.

[oh the horror]

Am I the only one who sees these movies as popcorn flicks and a great venue to share with the family?
Waaaayyy to many people are dissecting the crap out of these movies. Sure there are holes, but overall a great experience to take the family out. Who really is the intended target? All I know is my son had a great time, the families in the theatre loved it, and we loved it as a family.




Yup yup. That's all any of them are. Enjoyable popcorn flicks that aren't meant to be any deeper than they are. This isn't Citizen Kane for christs sake

[SpecialQue]

Yup yup. That's all any of them are. Enjoyable popcorn flicks that aren't meant to be any deeper than they are. This isn't Citizen Kane for christs sake

I hate this argument. The original Star Wars films weren't "deep" at all, but they were/are critically praised because they were unique and told a simple story well. If people are talking about plot holes and this is why they didn't like the movie, that means the movie failed. Terminator 2 is packed with plot holes and nonsense that doesn't hold up to a minute's scrutiny, but no one cared because it was a masterfully told story that adhered to its own internal logic.

[hateraid]

I hate this argument. The original Star Wars films weren't "deep" at all, but they were/are critically praised because they were unique and told a simple story well. If people are talking about plot holes and this is why they didn't like the movie, that means the movie failed. Terminator 2 is packed with plot holes and nonsense that doesn't hold up to a minute's scrutiny, but no one cared because it was a masterfully told story that adhered to its own internal logic.

So in terms of your assessment, who do you think the Star Wars franchise is supposed to appeal to, guys like you or families looking for a night out spending hundreds in the theatres and all the merchandise?
Like oh the horror said, this isn't Citizen Kane. It's not trying to win any Academy awards. It needs to be relatable to the audience it is trying to attract. Families, not over critical movie elitists.

[Stout]

I didn't say Disney explicitly, but you do know Disney owns ABC which has film critics right?
So most critics work for ABC now?

[SpecialQue]

So in terms of your assessment, who do you think the Star Wars franchise is supposed to appeal to, guys like you or families looking for a night out spending hundreds in the theatres and all the merchandise?
Like oh the horror said, this isn't Citizen Kane. It's not trying to win any Academy awards. It needs to be relatable to the audience it is trying to attract. Families, not over critical movie elitists.

Did you completely miss the part where I said the original films were critically praised because were unique, simple stories done well? Why the fvck are you bringing up Citizen Kane?

The funny thing is that you're trying to imply that Star Wars isn't marketed to "guys like me." I watch a lot of dumb popcorn flicks and enjoy them. I didn't enjoy this one, and I don't think it was a good movie. It doesn't have to be fvcking Jeanne Dielman, it just has work for me on its own terms. It didn't. It's like you can't comprehend that someone, somewhere, can both enjoy dumb action films while at the same time NOT enjoy this particular dumb action film.

[hateraid]

Did you completely miss the part where I said the original films were critically praised because were unique, simple stories done well? Why the fvck are you bringing up Citizen Kane?

The funny thing is that you're trying to imply that Star Wars isn't marketed to "guys like me." I watch a lot of dumb popcorn flicks and enjoy them. I didn't enjoy this one, and I don't think it was a good movie. It doesn't have to be fvcking Jeanne Dielman, it just has work for me on its own terms. It didn't. It's like you can't comprehend that someone, somewhere, can both enjoy dumb action films while at the same time NOT enjoy this particular dumb action film.
Relax man. I wasn't trying to insult you. The point in case is although it may not be the critically acclaimed film families will relate to it whether it's a New Hope or The Force Awakens the exact same way. You didn't have to take it so personally. The fact is all these movies were created for a certain audience, I didn't say exclusive too. The movies are intended to create revenue streams, not try to win awards. You're making it out to be the latter. Doesn't mean you're not entitled to your opinion of it nor am I disrepecting it.

On that same token you're saying it is a simple story. The movie follows the same platform. Being done well is in the eyes of the viewer.

[Terahite]

So most critics work for ABC now?

You brought up Disney stupid not me. Most critics are working for a CHECK is what I said.

And don't pretend like a lot of critics aren't afraid to bash this turd.

[poido123]

Not gonna lie, this movie was a 6 out of 10 at most.


It was boring AF and so predictable and so much cheesy BS in it.


Perhaps I've grown out of my Star Wars fandom from a young kid, but that movie was big let down.



Disappointed.

[ZeN]

94% rating in RT doesnt mean that the critics LOVED the movie.. It simply means that nearly all of them had something favorable to say about the movie, as opposed to having nothing good to say about it. Many Meh mediocre movies have gotten good ratings in RT's past due to critics being generally okay with the movie and didn't think it was all that bad.

RT % is not a proper indicator of whether or not you will enjoy the movie, actually reading what the critics have to say will give you a better idea of what kind of movie it is.

That would of course require.. you know.. actual reading.

[TomBrady]

94% rating in RT doesnt mean that the critics LOVED the movie.. It simply means that nearly all of them had something favorable to say about the movie, as opposed to having nothing good to say about it. Many Meh mediocre movies have gotten good ratings in RT's past due to critics being generally okay with the movie and didn't think it was all that bad.

RT % is not a proper indicator of whether or not you will enjoy the movie, actually reading what the critics have to say will give you a better idea of what kind of movie it was.

That would of course require.. you know.. actual reading.
:applause:

Way too many people think that RottenTomatoes = Metacritic, or a ratings/review aggregator of that ilk.

[dunksby]

:applause:

Way too many people think that RottenTomatoes = Metacritic, or a ratings/review aggregator of that ilk.
The movie got zero negative reviews on meta.

[TomBrady]

The movie got zero negative reviews on meta.
That doesn't change the fact that quite a few people don't understand RottenTomatoes % scores. It just lets you know the positive to negative review ratio.

If they want to take issue with RottenTomatoes' average score for TFA (8.2/10, basically in line with Metacritic's 81/100), that's fine, but acting as though the 94% = a review of 94 isn't accurate.

Fact of the matter is that most critics (and people) enjoyed the movie, OP is just angry that the majority don't share his opinion.

[dunksby]

That doesn't change the fact that quite a few people don't understand RottenTomatoes % scores. It just lets you know the positive to negative review ratio.

If they want to take issue with RottenTomatoes' average score for TFA (8.2/10, basically in line with Metacritic's 81/100), that's fine, but acting as though the 94% = a review of 94 isn't accurate.

Fact of the matter is that most critics (and people) enjoyed the movie, OP is just angry that the majority don't share his opinion.
I dunno shit about Star Wars to be honest, but from what I gather looking at other movies and their reviews, the majority of movie critics nowadays are hesitant to swim against the current.

[Mr. Jabbar]

you only really notice that it's a piece of shit several hours after watching it.

this

[Stout]

Not gonna lie, this movie was a 6 out of 10 at most.


It was boring AF and so predictable and so much cheesy BS in it.


Perhaps I've grown out of my Star Wars fandom from a young kid, but that movie was big let down.



Disappointed.
Just so you know, that would be a "fresh" rating on RT. This is why it can have a 94% rating without be loved by all.