Why do people say Psychology is a useless degree...

[sammichoffate]

If everyone in this country is batshit crazy with guns, feminism, and muslim hate? :hammerhead:

[Nick Young]

Because it is a useless degree.

[DonDadda59]

I've never once heard anyone say that. :coleman:

You can do a ton with a Psychology degree.

Now communications...

[sammichoffate]

I've never once heard anyone say that. :coleman:

You can do a ton with a Psychology degree.

Now communications...Lol, poster above you :lol

[Nick Young]

social sciences
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[DonDadda59]

Lol, poster above you :lol

I don't count Zionists as 'people' :crazysam:

[Akrazotile]

I've never once heard anyone say that. :coleman:


It is commonly cited as one of the unnecessary degrees kids get because they don't know what they want to do in life yet, and it 'sounds interesting.' Which is absolutely true.



You can do a ton with a Psychology degree.

Now communications...

You 'can' do a ton of things with either of those degrees. They're good for basically any job listing that says "Bachelors required" but doesn't mandate any specific field.

There are very, very few things you actually NEED those degrees for.

[references]

Because it is a useless degree.
which degree allowed you to waste away on a message board regurgitating conservative talking points day in day out? how useful and complete has it made you as a man?

[JohnnySic]

My sister has a bachelors and masters in psychology and has done well with them.

[Akrazotile]

My sister has a bachelors and masters in psychology and has done well with them.


Pic?

[Draz]

That's why I'm going into social work. I know plenty of people with psychology degrees that can't get jobs, it's masters and over or it's working at six flags

[ISHGoat]

Phd in sociology = masters in psychology/commerce = bachelors in engineering/math

[DonDadda59]

which degree allowed you to waste away on a message board regurgitating conservative talking points day in day out? how useful and complete has it made you as a man?

:lebronamazed:

PHD status. Where'd you get your degree?

http://careerswiki.com/public/uploads/2014/12/psychologist_job_description.jpg

[Akrazotile]

That's why I'm going into social work. I know plenty of people with psychology degrees that can't get jobs, it's masters and over or it's working at six flags


Exactly. If you know you're a B or C student who's not gonna go for a masters degree, you might as well spend that first four years out of high school WORKING at Six Flags, learning the business, making some money, making connections with your coworkers, managers, corporate bosses. If you invest as much into basically any job during that four years as you have to writing term papers about randomly assigned busy-work, you'll get a hell of a lot more out of it then a low-demand degree and debt.

The mindset in this country needs such a damn overhaul.

[references]

Exactly. If you know you're a B or C student who's not gonna go for a masters degree, you might as well spend that first four years out of high school WORKING at Six Flags, learning the business, making some money, making connections with your coworkers, managers, corporate bosses. If you invest as much into basically any job during that four years as you have to writing term papers about randomly assigned busy-work, you'll get a hell of a lot more out of it then a low-demand degree and debt.

The mindset in this country needs such a damn overhaul.
work your way up from the concession stand! we got a real thinker here.

[ISHGoat]

Math? Since when is math a sought after degree in the job market? Maybe if its some sort of applied mathematics. ....

Maybe not pure math. Math with some stats and finances sprinkled in. I work in financial modelling for a big bank and basically everyone is a math/CS/engineering under with some sort of finance/math/accounting masters. We have a ton of russian and chinese math PhDs too.

Math undergrads are sought after in basically every quantitative field, just as engineers and students in the real sciences, namely physics and physical chem, are sought after. The world revolves around math. If you have math and reasoning mastered and are gold with language and people, then you become rich.

[Akrazotile]

work your way up from the concession stand! we got a real thinker here.


:oldlol:

We got a real gimmick here living each day to anonymously rile people up online.

Sorry but it won't gon work lil dawgy :(

Sweet life doe broe :rockon:

[DonDadda59]

work your way up from the concession stand! we got a real thinker here.

This man dropping napalm mixed with ether all over this bitch. :eek:

[Akrazotile]

This man dropping napalm mixed with ether all over this bitch. :eek:



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[references]

:oldlol:

We got a real gimmick here living each day to anonymously rile people up online.

Sorry but it won't gon work lil dawgy :(

Sweet life doe broe :rockon:
your life is pathetic and your lack of self-awareness is laughable but go ahead and spam emoticons to feign some aloofness. Try not responding to this post. You don't care. You got a bumper sticker company to run.

[DonDadda59]

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That man just brought the heat again. :confusedshrug:

Probably Josh. Has some Deuces sprinkled in there too no doubt.

[Draz]

I was so stressed I got a C on my anthropology course :( fcked up real bad last semester

[CavaliersFTW]

Everyone who's ever posted on insidehoops deserves an honorary degree in Psychology we all talk like experts :applause:

[Akrazotile]

your life is pathetic and your lack of self-awareness is laughable but go ahead and spam emoticons to feign some aloofness. Try not responding to this post. You don't care. You got a bumper sticker company to run.


Dat life :roll:

You can hear the underlying anger within.

The dick must be very dry indeed :(

[Nick Young]

which degree allowed you to waste away on a message board regurgitating conservative talking points day in day out? how useful and complete has it made you as a man?
The best kind of degree.

I regurgitate no "conservative talking points".


I will sue you for slander if you don't take that accusation back.

[CavaliersFTW]

4 months of ISH is equivalent to a 4 year degree in psychology

[Draz]

Most of us are lawyers too

[Akrazotile]

And pornstars.

[highwhey]

We have politicians

[red1]

That's what I have. Was it a good experience? Absolutely. Was it worth the debt? Absolutely not.

[Draz]

That's what I have. Was it a good experience? Absolutely. Was it worth the debt? Absolutely not.
What's degree do you have? And what job are you doing now?

[red1]

What's degree do you have? And what job are you doing now?
BA psychology. Been in sales the last few years because that's where the $$$ is.

[oarabbus]

I know quite a few pur math majors and its tough to find a job outside teaching with just mathematics. Its not a practical major.


This. A B.S. in mathematics is not a very sought-after degree however you slice it. Would be better to go with Physics, but even that isn't too hot in the market. In terms of employability, computer science/any engineering is far superior to math/physics at the Bachelor's level, and most math/physics majors are more than capable of CS/Engineering.

A PhD in applied mathematics (subfield of actuarial science, computer science, or robotics) on the other hand will get you into some of the rarest of the rare jobs.

[Nick Young]

That's what I have. Was it a good experience? Absolutely. Was it worth the debt? Absolutely not.
This man knows what's up.

[Draz]

BA psychology. Been in sales the last few years because that's where the $$$ is.
Eh. Makes sense. But do you plan on going for your MBA?

[KyrieTheFuture]

Math? Since when is math a sought after degree in the job market? Maybe if its some sort of applied mathematics. ....
Bruh...

[dubeta]

I'm only 15 so I don't really know if its useless or not

[DeuceWallaces]

A PhD in applied mathematics (subfield of actuarial science, computer science, or robotics) on the other hand will get you into some of the rarest of the rare jobs.

Every PhD, in any science, is a degree in applied statistics/mathematics/programming.

[Draz]

I'm only 15 so I don't really know if its useless or not
No education is useless. There's people out there with a psychology degree (BA) and are able to have good jobs, entry level of course. Then there's people out there with the BA in psychology that go into different fields not directly related, such as marketing, communications, management, business administration, human resources (not all companies have this), etc etc.

If you have the money, or if you're qualified for financial aid (I'm not), go for it. If it's a passion, something specific in that field you're aiming for that'll make you happy, go for it. But understand the consequences of going towards a field that requires borderline masters and above. Bachelor's is like a high school diploma in the manner that it's hard to occupy an entry level job in such field but you're designated closer to approaching different levels of opportunities in parallel fields.

In the end it's a risk. I have a best friend who's going into psychology and wants to go all the way to PhD.

[DeuceWallaces]

If you're passionate about the field and stay focused you will be happy and eventually succeed. Yes, if you go into Sociology, Psychology, Philosophy, English, etc. you will likely need a M.S. at minimum to have a quality life, but they are free, only take 18 months, and will provide a rewarding life that are free of many corporate headaches once you're finished.

Last thing I would do is take academic/career advice from a bunch of idiots on ISH who, at best, just finished a BA/S and have never worked a day in their life.

[TonyMontana]

Because Psychology is literally one of the easiest things one can study. and how many jobs are there for it? If you ever look at a psychology class it's all women and retards.

I'm no mysoginist, but a good rule of thumb for university majors is that the more women that are in a program, the more bullshit it is. If you look at the bigboys...which has Engineering and Computer Science at the top there will be very few women in those courses.

nursing is pretty much the exception to the more women rule, and nursing isn't hard either. It's just about putting up with peoples sh!t(literally).

[thefatmiral]

Masters in psychology and be be Ballin out. Yes only 4 yr degree is useless

[Stout]

If everyone in this country is batshit crazy with guns, feminism, and muslim hate? :hammerhead:
Because none of those batshit crazy people listen to psychologists, therefore it becomes useless.

[d.bball.guy]

I don't know but my econ prof's sister is unemployed and she has a Masters in Psychology I think.

P.S. Thinking of dropping out of college to be a full time ISH poster and editor. Anybody need help with their alts?

[Draz]

Psychology is fascinating to a certain degree. You're learning how to manipulate the human thinking system. You're steps ahead of people. Your ability to process information and understand why and what's happening for whatever reason helps solve and puts you at a level above anyone else. Psychology should be learned by all people.

[ALBballer]

Psychology is fascinating to a certain degree. You're learning how to manipulate the human thinking system. You're steps ahead of people. Your ability to process information and understand why and what's being happen for whatever reason helps solve and puts you at a level above anyone else. Psychology should be learned by all people.

IS that what Psychology is or is it the memorization of all the famous psychologists and their theories?

[d.bball.guy]

IS that what Psychology is or is it the memorization of all the famous psychologists and their theories?
Most likely what Draz said. My friend said one question in his psych class was "how can you convince me that this chair doesn't exist?"

[Graviton]

:oldlol:

We got a real gimmick here living each day to anonymously rile people up online.

Sorry but it won't gon work lil dawgy :(

Sweet life doe broe :rockon:

I thought that was your job?

[shlver]

Psychology is fascinating to a certain degree. You're learning how to manipulate the human thinking system. You're steps ahead of people. Your ability to process information and understand why and what's being happen for whatever reason helps solve and puts you at a level above anyone else. Psychology should be learned by all people.
This is nonsense. Studying psychology doesn't put you above anyone else.
Psychology doesn't teach you how to manipulate anything. psychology spans a broad range of sciences that deal with the physiological, behavioral, statistical, etc. Psychologists come in many different forms. Some psychologists are skilled at recognizing certain patterns of behavior and communication, and know how to adapt their approach to be more productive. More hypothesis driven study would yield a psychologist that sticks electrodes into the brain and observes physiological changes that have to do with certain actions or behavior. Consultants to businesses and corporations utilize psychology to make arguments for how workers and the workplace should be run.
The point is psychology is prevalent in most industries. How you market and apply what you learned during your study is what determines the use you get out of a degree.

[Akrazotile]

This is nonsense. Studying psychology doesn't put you above anyone else.
Psychology doesn't teach you how to manipulate anything. psychology spans a broad range of sciences that deal with the physiological, behavioral, statistical, etc. Psychologists come in many different forms. Some psychologists are skilled at recognizing certain patterns of behavior and communication, and know how to adapt their approach to be more productive. More hypothesis driven study would yield a psychologist that sticks electrodes into the brain and observes physiological changes that have to do with certain actions or behavior. Consultants to businesses and corporations utilize psychology to make arguments for how workers and the workplace should be run.
The point is psychology is prevalent in most industries. How you market and apply what you learned during your study is what determines the use you get out of a degree.



And like the vast majority of fields, your success will be far more dependent on how intuitive you are, than what you were told in a lecture hall.

[shlver]

And like the vast majority of fields, your success will be far more dependent on how intuitive you are, than what you were told in a lecture hall.
Well you can't have intuition if you don't practice the material which is learned in the lecture hall. I think the greater indicator for success is strong work ethic.

[Akrazotile]

Well you can't have intuition if you don't practice the material which is learned in the lecture hall. I think the greater indicator for success is strong work ethic.


Yeah, they're all important, I guess it depends heavily on which field you go into as to how relevant lecture hall material will be.

If you major in psychology, you better be intuitive. Learning how big the frontal cortex is or why bad weather makes people sad probably won't give you much of an advantage in most career fields.

[DonD13]

it's not useless, it's a solid degree

as for job market, it will not give you insta-supercash but you will not end up unemployed

[Dave3]

That's why I'm going into social work. I know plenty of people with psychology degrees that can't get jobs, it's masters and over or it's working at six flags
That's everything nowadays though. Other than a bachelors in Engineering/teaching, nothing gets you a great job. Math, chemistry, biology, psychology, criminology, political science, or sociology. After my bio degree I did have a friend who got a gig at a lab, but most other people either went on to do other advanced degrees, or work in fields that don't use the degree at all.

[DonD13]

Math? Since when is math a sought after degree in the job market? Maybe if its some sort of applied mathematics. ....

:kobe:

when you live in a first-world country like me, it's one of the most lucrative degrees

go into insurances or banking and make a quarter million after 2 years job experience

[shlver]

Yeah, they're all important, I guess it depends heavily on which field you go into as to how relevant lecture hall material will be.

If you major in psychology, you better be intuitive. Learning how big the frontal cortex is or why bad weather makes people sad probably won't give you much of an advantage in most career fields.

Definitely, some of my undergrad is irrelevant now but a lot of it is relevant to my profession. Still the process of memorization increases intuition.
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In professional players, pictures of board positions taken from real shogi games activated a piece of cortex, the precuneus in the parietal lobe (located at the top of the brain toward the back), much more strongly than any of the other categories of pictures. That is, a region of their parietal cortex read out certain perceptual features associated with shogi games and distinguished them from random board positions. Experts see configurations of pieces, lines of control, a weakened defense or an imminent attack

[InfiniteBaskets]

Was majoring in Psych before I switched over to Finance and Stats, been working in Financial Risk Management for 5 years now and don't regret my decision.

I would agree that stopping at a BA in Psychology is pretty rough in terms of career prospects outside of HR. But the topics in Psych are very beneficial as a supplement to almost any career.

Psych 101 is split two-fold at my university. First part goes into the history and theories (BF Skinner, Watson, Freud, Maslow). And then the second portion touches upon physiological components of the human brain relating to behavior and human development.

You can actually concentrate in more specific Psych fields once you're in the major. My original plan was to be an Industrial Organizational Psychologist. The marketing type that's decided warm colors should be used by fast food Restaurants to illicit hunger, light green on food packaging to trigger environmental and health consciousness, light shades of blue in hospitals to put patients at ease etc... But even then you'd need at least a Masters and I wasn't trying to pay more for college to make less money, even if the work was more interesting.