LeBron is a better fastbreak player than Michael Jordan

[JohnMax]

Fastbreak Points Per Game

1996-97 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
1997-98 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
2003-04 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)

They started recording this in 1996-97 season, LeBron gets way more fastbreak points than Jordan.

[Clifton]

Lebron might be the greatest fastbreak player of all time besides Magic.

It's the only thing he's ever been better than MJ at.

[ShawkFactory]

Besides Magic there may not be a comparably dominant fast break player in history.

[dubeta]

Jordan was a poor one-foot leaper, that's why he wasn't effective in the fast break


He needs an extra gather step to jump of two feet, thus he cant gain momentum

[sd3035]

Jordan was a poor one-foot leaper, that's why he wasn't effective in the fast break


He needs an extra gather step to jump of two feet, thus he cant gain momentum

didn't he dunk from the FT line off one foot?

[dubeta]

didn't he dunk from the FT line off one foot?

And he needed to run the entire court without dribbling just to even do that

[FreezingTsmoove]

Tony Parker has just as much fast break points compared to Lebron. Before Tony Parkers decline (not counting this season last, or the year before)

[Dragonyeuw]

didn't he dunk from the FT line off one foot?

You actually thought that BS he wrote warranted a serious reply?

[dubeta]

Tony Parker has just as much fast break points compared to Lebron. Before Tony Parkers decline (not counting this season last, or the year before)

Except Parker is a notorious cherry-picker, while LeBron guards the PF's in the paint, making it harder to outlet for fastbreak points

[ClipperRevival]

:facepalm

The level of SHEER IGNORANCE exhibited by the Bron fans again and again is just amazing.

Comparing MJ's fast break numbers when he was 34 and 35 to a prime Bron is proof of this. And MJ is THE greatest combo one and two foot leaper EVER. He was GOAT level at BOTH. You kids. :roll:

[ShawkFactory]

:facepalm

The level of SHEER IGNORANCE exhibited by the Bron fans again and again is just amazing.

Comparing MJ's fast break numbers when he was 34 and 35 to a prime Bron is proof of this. And MJ is THE greatest combo one and two foot leaper EVER. He was GOAT level at BOTH. You kids. :roll:
Well 03-04 isn't prime Bron but you are correct.

[juju151111]

Fastbreak Points Per Game

1996-97 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
1997-98 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
2003-04 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)

They started recording this in 1996-97 season, LeBron gets way more fastbreak points than Jordan.
Mj was 34 and u comparing him to a springy 20 year old?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Except Parker is a notorious cherry-picker, while LeBron guards the PF's in the paint, making it harder to outlet for fastbreak points

What is this? The park?

Who gives a shit points are points

[Marchesk]

http://i40.tinypic.com/11rstgo.gif

[ClipperRevival]

Lebron might be the greatest fastbreak player of all time besides Magic.

It's the only thing he's ever been better than MJ at.

The only scenario I might give the edge to Bron is when he has a full head of steam and doesn't need to change directions but just go in a straight line. That's when he can elevate over guys along with the power he brings to absorb contact.

But if you consider change of direction, stop and accelerate, ability to contort your body in the air, hang in the air and get off a shot and jump off one or two foot, MJ was so much better.

Overall, MJ was a better transition player. He could beat you in more ways except that one scenario.

[catch24]

Makes sense given LeBron's efficiency from the field. He's got a limited midrange game so his fastbreak points have to be sky high.

[ClipperRevival]

Jordan was a poor one-foot leaper, that's why he wasn't effective in the fast break


He needs an extra gather step to jump of two feet, thus he cant gain momentum

Seriously. You are either:

1) A troll and just trying to push people's buttons

OR

2) A blithering idiot who knows nothing about the game

Which is it there Bron fan?

[AirBonner]

in before 3ball shuts this down :lol

[dubeta]

Seriously. You are either:

1) A troll and just trying to push people's buttons

OR

2) A blithering idiot who knows nothing about the game

Which is it there Bron fan?
Truth hurts, don't blame me

[ClipperRevival]

And he needed to run the entire court without dribbling just to even do that

:facepalm

My God man. You can't be THIS stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUz3ZYfoNxo

First off, everyone who has dunked from the FT line used most of the court. Second, MJ is the only player ever to dribble all the way like an actual basketball play, take two steps and dunk it. Everyone else just ran with it because it was too difficult to dribble like a real play.

[sportjames23]

:facepalm

The level of SHEER IGNORANCE exhibited by the Bron fans again and again is just amazing.

Comparing MJ's fast break numbers when he was 34 and 35 to a prime Bron is proof of this. And MJ is THE greatest combo one and two foot leaper EVER. He was GOAT level at BOTH. You kids. :roll:


Just dubeta being his usual douchebag self, bruh. He loves to get gangbanged everyday here.

[JohnMax]

Tony Parker has just as much fast break points compared to Lebron. Before Tony Parkers decline (not counting this season last, or the year before)

http://37.media.tumblr.com/71b766899c09cdac9f24721775327300/tumblr_n9ij0ekQmc1setsv8o1_400.gif


http://i.imgur.com/ZNXFzFb.png

http://www.nbaminer.com/fast-break-kings-of-nba/

[ShawkFactory]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/71b766899c09cdac9f24721775327300/tumblr_n9ij0ekQmc1setsv8o1_400.gif


http://i.imgur.com/ZNXFzFb.png

http://www.nbaminer.com/fast-break-kings-of-nba/
I bet the Glyde had some monster fast break numbers in his prime.

[diamenz]

fast break iq mj > lebron. if you try to argue this then you never watched shit in the nineties.

[knicksman]

Bran has always been the best when it comes to easy shots.

[Straight_Ballin]

Fastbreak Points Per Game

1996-97 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
1997-98 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
2003-04 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)

They started recording this in 1996-97 season, LeBron gets way more fastbreak points than Jordan.

All these advantages over Jordan and still he did less with more.
All this does is further cement how GOAT MJ really was.

What is the point of being good at a fast break if all it does is result in 2/6 in the finals? :lol

I'd rather be good at everything else and go 6/6. :sleeping

[FreezingTsmoove]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/71b766899c09cdac9f24721775327300/tumblr_n9ij0ekQmc1setsv8o1_400.gif


http://i.imgur.com/ZNXFzFb.png

http://www.nbaminer.com/fast-break-kings-of-nba/


Im not wrong -_- the stat was literally on sportscenter 3 years ago. Probably TP is not shown because of his decline the past three years so his fast break points per game is not there but OVERALL points on the fast break he WAS up there with Lebron

[FreezingTsmoove]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/71b766899c09cdac9f24721775327300/tumblr_n9ij0ekQmc1setsv8o1_400.gif


http://i.imgur.com/ZNXFzFb.png

http://www.nbaminer.com/fast-break-kings-of-nba/

Show a stat of overall fastbreak points not points per game. I clearly said Tony Parker has declined and that I was talking about 3 years ago

[DCL]

Jordan was a poor one-foot leaper


you're talking out of your ass

[3ball]

:rolleyes:

[3ball]

Halfcourt points account for 80-95% of the points for scored, depending on the team.

[fpliii]

90, 91, 92, 93, 96, I think Chicago was first or second in efficiency in terms of converting points off turnovers each year (and they dropped off in 94 and 95)...

MJ was a great fastbreak player.

[3ball]

Jordan can't jump off 1 leg



dubeta throwing me softballs


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/mVv0nJ.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/FAYvEZ.gif... 30-year old MJ

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/orR3N3.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/YozdEc.gif


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/E3p4Db.gif


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/zeEkKm.gif

[sportjames23]

Don't hurt 'em too bad, 3ball. :oldlol:

[Marchesk]

Jordan is just so aesthetically pleasing. I'd vote him goat just for the pleasure.

[JohnMax]

Notice how slow Jordan moves while jumping off 1 foot. Lebron doesn't have to slow down to jump.

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/lebron-james-dunk-against-the-lakers.gif

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4512989/ledunking.gif

[sportjames23]

Notice how slow Jordan moves while jumping off 1 foot. Lebron doesn't have to slow down to jump.

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/lebron-james-dunk-against-the-lakers.gif

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4512989/ledunking.gif


Weak shit. :oldlol:

[dhsilv]

The only scenario I might give the edge to Bron is when he has a full head of steam and doesn't need to change directions but just go in a straight line. That's when he can elevate over guys along with the power he brings to absorb contact.

But if you consider change of direction, stop and accelerate, ability to contort your body in the air, hang in the air and get off a shot and jump off one or two foot, MJ was so much better.

Overall, MJ was a better transition player. He could beat you in more ways except that one scenario.

Lebron doesn't need to contort his body...

[BuffaloBill]

And he needed to run the entire court without dribbling just to even do that


Lebron's playstyle is based off of running the entire court without dribbling.

[diamenz]

Notice how slow Jordan moves while jumping off 1 foot. Lebron doesn't have to slow down to jump.

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/lebron-james-dunk-against-the-lakers.gif

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4512989/ledunking.gif

how u gon' compare that weak shit to what 3ball posted. **** outta har.

[Blue&Orange]

Fastbreak Points Per Game

1996-97 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
1997-98 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)
2003-04 (http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/misc/?sort=PTS_FB&dir=1&Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)

They started recording this in 1996-97 season, LeBron gets way more fastbreak points than Jordan.
can somene post that gif of lebron running for the fastbreak instead of contesting the shot?

When will idiots figure out the only thing Lebron is better is statpadding? He is a loser choker that plays 48 minutes not looking to win but filling up the stats.

[ClipperRevival]

Jordan is just so aesthetically pleasing. I'd vote him goat just for the pleasure.

Yup. Poetry in motion.

[ClipperRevival]

:applause:

3ball, more gifs please.

[dubeta]

And here comes the damage control :oldlol:

[Spurs m8]

How is this a good thing? LOL

Since I was a kid I always felt half guilty getting fast break points, they're cheap as ****, nothing to be proud of.

Classic Bron

[dhsilv]

can somene post that gif of lebron running for the fastbreak instead of contesting the shot?

When will idiots figure out the only thing Lebron is better is statpadding? He is a loser choker that plays 48 minutes not looking to win but filling up the stats.

He's been extremely successful without ever playing for a top tier franchise. I don't like the guy and I think stats over value what he does, but for crying out loud the level of stupidity in the insults on him are beyond reason. This is hands down one of the best players to ever play the game. He has been more successful as a winner than nearly every other player in the history of the game. Only a VERY few players compare.

[dhsilv]

How is this a good thing? LOL

Since I was a kid I always felt half guilty getting fast break points, they're cheap as ****, nothing to be proud of.

Classic Bron

It's an important part of the game. Hell, might as well drop magic from your top 15 if the fast break doesn't matter.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

He's been extremely successful without ever playing for a top tier franchise. I don't like the guy and I think stats over value what he does, but for crying out loud the level of stupidity in the insults on him are beyond reason. This is hands down one of the best players to ever play the game. He has been more successful as a winner than nearly every other player in the history of the game. Only a VERY few players compare.


Honestly, in the finals, what even is stat padding?

Down by 20 in the 4th of game 6

"Damn, we losin, I better stop scoring so some haters won't say something about me!"

[Blue&Orange]

Honestly, in the finals, what even is stat padding?

Down by 20 in the 4th of game 6

"Damn, we losin, I better stop scoring so some haters won't say something about me!"
Being the chocker loser that he is with game on the line. Dominating with spurs starting five on the bench and Matt Bonner as the starting center.


:applause:

Not Statpadding. Look at them stats! Lebron had a great finals!! He dominated!


Honestly you are dumb as fack.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Being the chocker loser that he is with game on the line. Dominating with spurs starting five on the bench and Matt Bonner as the starting center.


:applause:

Not Statpadding. Look at them stats! Lebron had a great finals!! He dominated!


Honestly you are dumb as fack.

"Oh, the spurs bench is on, I better stop scoring!"

[Blue&Orange]

"Oh, the spurs bench is on, I better stop scoring!"
I don't know maybe he should have scored when the starting five was playing and the game mattered? :roll:

Are you seriously this dumb? :roll:

But hey he had great stats as always, lebrontards can say he had a great finals and keep whining he has no help when he had nothing but stacked teams.


2/7 bro.


http://i.imgur.com/I8eZX1R.png

Declining for 3 years bro :applause:

Thank god NBA allows scrub Lebron to use his off arm to push people out of the way, and gift him free throws when he runs people over.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

I don't know maybe he should have scored when the starting five was playing and the game mattered? :roll:

Are you seriously this dumb? :roll:

But hey he had great stats as always, lebrontards can say he had a great finals and keep whining he has no help when he had nothing but stacked teams.


2/7 bro.


http://i.imgur.com/I8eZX1R.png

Declining for 3 years bro :applause:

Thank god NBA allows scrub Lebron to use his off arm to push people out of the way, and gift him free throws when he runs people over.

You know, the funniest thing is that there is actually no evidence he statpadded.

But obviously the arguement will change into "why didnt he score in the 4th"

[FKAri]

We get it Lebron's better than MJ. No need to rub it in.

[bond10]

This Lebron hype is just hilarious.

[SexSymbol]

no, jesus no.
Being faster and in general more athletic and with much higher bball IQ MJ practically never made mistakes on the fastbreak.