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JohnnySic
01-08-2016, 11:00 AM
Can it be done?

Gileraracer
01-08-2016, 11:05 AM
Depends on his FG%. If he continues to shoot <40% from beyond 5ft there's no way he'll catch Kareem.

ShaqTwizzle
01-08-2016, 11:10 AM
Probably not.
Let us give him 1150 more pts for this season... (slightly generous?)

Then lets say he averages 25-ppg over the next 3 years and plays an average of 72 games.
5400 pts...

Following that he'll be 35 years old and in his 17th season... and he'll still need 6000 points.

Lets say he keeps going though and from 35-37 (17th-19th seasons) he averages 23-ppg and plays an average of 65 games.
He'd still be able 1500-2000 points shy of the total.

Maybe he ages better then the above speculation and maintains his volume better but if not... then there is little chance.

Mawly-G
01-08-2016, 11:14 AM
Once his athleticism starts to decline within the next couple of seasons, he'll have to rely more on his jumpshot; which is currently non-existent. I just don't see LeBron ever becoming a consistent shooter though. I think as he begins to age, and his athleticism dissipates, he'll become even more of a facilitator.

VengefulAngel
01-08-2016, 11:22 AM
Probably not.
Let us give him 1150 more pts for this season... (slightly generous?)

Then lets say he averages 25-ppg over the next 3 years and plays an average of 72 games.
5400 pts...

Following that he'll be 35 years old and in his 17th season... and he'll still need 6000 points.

Lets say he keeps going though and from 35-37 (17th-19th seasons) he averages 23-ppg and plays an average of 65 games.
He'd still be able 1500-2000 points shy of the total.

Maybe he ages better then the above speculation and maintains his volume better but if not... then there is little chance.

He won't pass Kareem but he's got an absolute great shot of 2nd and is almost a lock for top 5.

Dr Hawk
01-08-2016, 11:30 AM
Problem is Lebron isn't a bird-fed giant like Kareem

guy
01-08-2016, 11:45 AM
He will as long as he can stay healthy just cause he will make it a point to along with getting to top 3-4 in career assists. Hes a stat stuffer and will probably do whatever he can for his legacy to make up for his lack of rings and lesser amount of MVPs (seemed like a forgone conclusion he would surpass Jordan and Kareem but now it's seem like a good chance he won't win another). Pretty sure Kobe would've been doing the same thing if it wasn't for his injuries.

RoseCity07
01-08-2016, 12:42 PM
I think Lebron will do it quite easily if he plays to 40. He can probably get there by 38. Jordan would have reached 40 thousands points if he never retired unit 2003. He took off 4 prime years at least.

ShaqTwizzle
01-08-2016, 12:54 PM
I think Lebron will do it quite easily if he plays to 40.

Keep in mind Lebron is already in his 13th season.
By time he is 35 he'll be in his 17th season and unlike some other guys who were barely used early on, retired for a year or two mid-career or took years off for injury Lebron has played heavy minutes and missed few games since his Rookie season.

By time he is 35 assuming he stays durable he will have played an absolutely incredible number of minutes career wise.

By time he is 38 let alone 40 he'll be in his 20th season.
How many guys were still productive by then... how many even made it that far without injury?

Kobe is in his 20th season now and he missed the last few years (injury) and wasn't a starter until his 3rd season.

WayOfWade
01-08-2016, 01:22 PM
Either way ISH loses, either he breaks the record and the LeBron fam goes nuts, or he doens't and the Kobe fam goes nuts

Clifton
01-08-2016, 01:34 PM
No, because Lebron will retire early. He's a businessman and a family man, not a basketball lifer.

Kareem hardly had a life outside of basketball. He liked to keep to himself. Obviously he had other interests (as we've seen from his writing), but they weren't as compelling as financial ventures or a family would be.

I bet Lebron retires before he falls out of the top 5.

IncarceratedBob
01-08-2016, 01:52 PM
Problem is Lebron isn't a bird-fed giant like Kareem
Kareem was assisted on 51 percent of his baskets.
Lebron has been assisted so far on 49 percent of his basket

Do some 'search before you speak jackass

Mass Debator
01-08-2016, 01:57 PM
Problem is Lebron isn't a bird-fed giant like Kareem
Prime Kareem would kill Lebron 1v1 though

ShawkFactory
01-08-2016, 02:08 PM
Kareem was assisted on 51 percent of his baskets.
Lebron has been assisted so far on 49 percent of his basket

Do some 'search before you speak jackass
True but look at the percentage of baskets Kareem was assisted on later in his career once his athleticism declined significantly.

He played several years after that.

RRR3
01-08-2016, 02:30 PM
True but look at the percentage of baskets Kareem was assisted on later in his career once his athleticism declined significantly.

He played several years after that.
He pulled those numbers out of his ass, as he is fond of doing.


LeBron has been assisted on 35.5% of his 2point field goals, and 48.6% of his 3point field goals throughout his career. That clearly would be less than 49%

Straight_Ballin
01-08-2016, 02:50 PM
Can it be done?

Nope, I don't see a button for that.

http://i.imgur.com/qfPhM5k.jpg

Dragonyeuw
01-08-2016, 03:52 PM
I don't think so. That's another 6 seasons of 2,000+ points a year if he's healthy, taking him to 37. I don't expect Lebron's scoring to remain in the mid 20's by the time he's 34-35. I expect him to take on more of a facilitating role, maybe even a move to power forward( still playing a point forward role). Bear in mind that Lebron was playing major minutes since 19, made the playoffs in all but his first 2 years, never failed to advance past the first round, and been in the last 5 finals. Then add two Olympics on top of that....he's played ALOT of basketball.

BigNBAfan
01-08-2016, 08:10 PM
He won't pass Kareem but he's got an absolute great shot of 2nd and is almost a lock for top 5.

Dumb statement

You can't say anyones on lock for anything career-wise. Something can happen at any minute and cost them their career.

dubnation
01-08-2016, 08:14 PM
Dumb statement

You can't say anyones on lock for anything career-wise. Something can happen at any minute and cost them their career.

He said "almost a lock" for a reason. Barring some catastrophic injury or worse, he'll be top 5. He only needs <6000 and he's only just turned 31. It really is phenomenal how durable and consistent he's been.

inclinerator
01-08-2016, 11:19 PM
if he develops a hook shot

Springsteen
01-08-2016, 11:21 PM
Dumb statement

You can't say anyones on lock for anything career-wise. Something can happen at any minute and cost them their career.

Are you hoping he gets an injury? :no:

Mr Feeny
01-09-2016, 02:32 AM
Either way ISH loses, either he breaks the record and the LeBron fam goes nuts, or he doens't and the Kobe fam goes nuts

Even if he falls short of the all time mark or if he doesn't care to play enough to break it, there's a really good chance that Lebron will surpass Kobe on the all time scoring list (and this will being a pass first guy and taking hundreds of less shots than Kobe). So why would Kobe stans be happy?

:lol

warriorfan
01-09-2016, 02:43 AM
Nope, I don't see a button for that.

http://i.imgur.com/qfPhM5k.jpg
:roll:

dhsilv
01-09-2016, 04:21 AM
Probably not.
Let us give him 1150 more pts for this season... (slightly generous?)

Then lets say he averages 25-ppg over the next 3 years and plays an average of 72 games.
5400 pts...

Following that he'll be 35 years old and in his 17th season... and he'll still need 6000 points.

Lets say he keeps going though and from 35-37 (17th-19th seasons) he averages 23-ppg and plays an average of 65 games.
He'd still be able 1500-2000 points shy of the total.

Maybe he ages better then the above speculation and maintains his volume better but if not... then there is little chance.

The question to me is if he'll plays into his 40's.

But the real point is lebron's strength was never his scoring.

VengefulAngel
01-09-2016, 04:36 AM
He said "almost a lock" for a reason. Barring some catastrophic injury or worse, he'll be top 5. He only needs <6000 and he's only just turned 31. It really is phenomenal how durable and consistent he's been.

Thanks man, seems like people struggle to read on this board.