The difference between Jordan's teams and Lebron's teams

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When Jordan's teams lost (1985-1990), his supporting cast generally didn't underperform their regular season performance - his supporting cast played to their RS capacity (or very near), but simply weren't as good as the other team.. (here's simple example: look at 1987 1st Round - Oakely went from 14/13 in RS to 20/15 vs. Boston).

Since MJ's supporting cast didn't underperform, his team never lost as the favorite, or even when they were 50/50 to win.. MJ's teams only lost when NO ONE thought they would win.

When Lebron's team loses, his supporting cast invariably underperforms their RS performance significantly - this explains why he lost when his team was the favorite, or at least 50/50 to win (2009 ECF, 2010 ECSF, 2011 Finals, 2014 Finals)...

And we know why - at the highest level of competition, Lebron's teammates can no longer thrive as the predictable play-finishers his ball-dominance turned them into.
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So basically OP admits when LeBrons team loses, its because of his supporting cast.


But we should rightly blame Jordan when he lost, since his supporting cast showed up


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So basically OP admits when LeBrons team loses, its because of his supporting cast.

But we should rightly blame Jordan when he lost, since his supporting cast showed up



Even from 1985-1988, Jordan's supporting cast didn't underperform their RS performance.. MJ's sheer force of will and off-ball style is ideally-suited to elevate teammates once the competition kicks up a tier in the playoffs..

Otoh, when Lebron's team reach the highest levels of competition, teammates can no longer thrive as the predictable play-finishers his ball-dominance turned them into.. So they play like dogshit.





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MJ routinely elevated teammates (see the Charles Oakley example from 1987 First Round), while Lebron doesn't - this is simple fact.

Since MJ's supporting cast didn't underperform, his team never lost as the favorite, or even when they were 50/50 to win.. MJ's teams only lost when NO ONE thought they would win.

When Lebron's team loses, his supporting cast invariably underperforms their RS performance significantly - this explains why he lost when his team was the favorite, or at least 50/50 to win (2009 ECF, 2010 ECSF, 2011 Finals, 2014 Finals)...






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:facepalm .. Sarcasm.. You don't seem willing to accept the statistical fact that Lebron turns his teammates into play-finishers.

But it's statistical fact - he significantly reduces (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841) teammates APG and assist %, while increasing their assisted rate, thus turning them from playmakers into play-finishers.

And again, at the highest level of competition, Lebron's teammates can no longer thrive as the predictable play-finishers his ball-dominance turned them into (hence the consistent underperformance from the RS)