Muslim Woman kicked out of Trump rally

[sammichoffate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YBt_6HfbM
:/

[imdaman99]

Well, her donning a scarf around her head means she's a trouble maker. How dare she!

[bdreason]

Seems like she got exactly what she was looking for.

[NumberSix]

Seems like she got exactly what she was looking for.
Nah. I'm sure her standing there and wearing a yellow star was in no way a planned ploy for attention. Nah, she din du nuffin and was just kicked for "for being Muslim".

[Dresta]

Seems like she got exactly what she was looking for.
Precisely. She was making an overt political statement (you people are all bigots), and she expects what exactly? Not to mention that exploiting the yellow star like that is really quite disgraceful, and draws parallels that most Jewish people would probably find pretty offensive.

Non-story.

[Jameerthefear]

probably a plant from one of the political parties tbh

[BurningHammer]

probably a plant from one of the political parties tbh
Could be planted by Trump himself to make his case as well.

If your event is anti-Muslim, why would you like her in at the first place?

[Nick Young]

Precisely. She was making an overt political statement (you people are all bigots), and she expects what exactly? Not to mention that exploiting the yellow star like that is really quite disgraceful, and draws parallels that most Jewish people would probably find pretty offensive.

Non-story.
Yes. Talk about massive hyperbole. That woman is a moron :mad: :mad: :mad:

I have zero sympathy for her and the idiotic statement she attempted to make.

[nathanjizzle]

trump people.

[Draz]

How funny would it be if these Muslims wanted to support trump solely based on their belief he's good for the country yet they can't even go to support him due to shit like this lol

[poido123]

Muslim suppression 101.


They attack those who speak loudest against Islam and use platforms like social media to degrade anyone who criticises them.


words like islamophobia and racist are some of their most effective words to deflect from the issues.

[Akrazotile]

Alpha.

[DonDadda59]

InB4 the Rosa Parks comparisons. :applause:

[Nick Young]

Muslim suppression 101.


They attack those who speak loudest against Islam and use platforms like social media to degrade anyone who criticises them.


words like islamophobia and racist are some of their most effective words to deflect from the issues.
Yep she is trying to set herself up as a victim so she can whine and bleat to the media on her little soap box about Islam being a religion of peace:facepalm

The fact that she's exploiting the holocaust and disrespecting murdered Jews is lost and her and the libtard media defending her.

[DonDadda59]

Yep she is trying to set herself up as a victim so she can whine and bleat to the media on her little soap box about Islam being a religion of peace:facepalm

The fact that she's exploiting the holocaust and disrespecting murdered Jews is lost and her and the libtard media defending her.

Damn, this lil ole lady really touched that zionist nerve didn't she?

[chosen_one6]

Precisely. She was making an overt political statement (you people are all bigots), and she expects what exactly? Not to mention that exploiting the yellow star like that is really quite disgraceful, and draws parallels that most Jewish people would probably find pretty offensive.

Non-story.

Are you failing to see how Donald Trump is acting like Hitler? Or does it not fit your agenda to acknowledge that?

[Nick Young]

Are you failing to see how Donald Trump is acting like Hitler? Or does it not fit your agenda to acknowledge that?
Please explain to me how he's acting like Hitler. I haven't been following his campaign closely.

[poido123]

Are you failing to see how Donald Trump is acting like Hitler? Or does it not fit your agenda to acknowledge that?


I think ISIS represents the hitler movement moreso than trump I would think?

[Nick Young]

I think ISIS represents the hitler movement moreso than trump I would think?
bro. Are you failing to see that Donald Trump is literally worse than ISIS? Or does it not fit your agenda to acknowledge that?

[Dresta]

Are you failing to see how Donald Trump is acting like Hitler? Or does it not fit your agenda to acknowledge that?
He's behaving nothing like Hitler. And only someone who knew absolutely nothing about Hitler would even suggest such a thing. The history of the Weimar Republic does not map onto any current trends in American politics or society, at all. In Germany the Universities were bastions of nazism (going back before Hitler took power) - the politicisation of such institutions was a key part of Hitler's program; i think you'll find that in America the Academy is a bastion of liberalism and not at all behind Trump.

I don't even like Trump, but comparing him to Hitler is facile: he's a New York socialite, he's not even really a conservative, just a populist, a Berlusconi type if anything.

Here's a bit of advice for you: just because the New York Times says something, doesn't make it true. It's amazing how the people who are always accusing the 'other side' of fear mongering are constantly bringing up Hitler, and making idiotic historical comparisons so as to scare people into thinking Donald Trump is Hitler :lol. It's really quite laughable.

[poido123]

bro. Are you failing to see that Donald Trump is literally worse than ISIS? Or does it not fit your agenda to acknowledge that?


:oldlol:


I'm the crazy hate preacher because I condemn Muslim who are at war with non believers :oldlol:

[Nick Young]

British woman jailed for trying to kidnap her children and place them under ISIS rule in Syria

http://en.abna24.com/cache/image/2016/01/09/52e04407856609b9bfdfb94f17503658.jpg

[QUOTE]A mother from Bradford has been sentenced to five years in jail for attempting to abduct her two children to live in Raqqa, Syria, under the control of the ISIS. The 34-year-old woman, whose name has not been revealed, tried to kidnap the children in October 2015 but was caught in Istanbul after her husband and parents contacted the police.

Leeds Crown Court judge Rodney Jameson, who handed her the sentence, said: "It is beyond dispute that ISIS enforce their will by the use of extreme force. Such force routinely includes mutilation, rape and murder. You are an intelligent and well-educated woman and you knew this. The fate of your children would have been either to have subscribed, fully and actively, as we have all seen in the appalling use of a young child in an IS propaganda video in recent days, to such behaviour, or to have suffered it themselves."

The British-born woman spent her formative years in Pakistan before returning to live in northern England. She became increasingly religious and even gave up her job in finance in August 2015.

Carrying passports and

[poido123]

British woman jailed for trying to kidnap her children and place them under ISIS rule in Syria

http://en.abna24.com/cache/image/2016/01/09/52e04407856609b9bfdfb94f17503658.jpg



http://en.abna24.com/service/europe/archive/2016/01/09/729677/story.html


Putting them in jail isn't the solution. They will simply overrun the jails and threaten other inmates to conform to islam.

[nathanjizzle]

:oldlol:


I'm the crazy hate preacher because I condemn Muslim who are at war with non believers :oldlol:

you are a white bigot.

[poido123]

you are a white bigot.


Muslims are bigoted towards non believers. Whats the difference?

[NumberSix]

you are a white bigot.
That's the racism.

[TheMan]

The Trump/Hitler comparisons are made mostly to point out the fact that Trump uses scare tactics to further his political aspirations. He tells tha American public that their woes are due to certain groups of people, just like Hitler did when he blamed the Jews for the German people's misfortune. We all know that it's mostly the rich and their bought off politicians that have the American people scraping for scraps while the rich (like the Donald) make off like bandits, laughing at us all the way to the bank.

It's hyperbole but if you can't see the parrallels, then you're being purposefully obtuse. No one believes he's gonna gas people if he becomes POTUS (LMAO).

That crazy Muslim woman who wanted ISIS to raise her children deserves every day in jail she gets, what an irresponsible piece of human shiit she is, SMH.

[Nick Young]

The Trump/Hitler comparisons are made mostly to point out the fact that Trump uses scare tactics to further his political aspirations.
Do does Obama and Hillary and every single other politician out there:facepalm


just like Hitler did when he blamed the Jews for the German people's misfortune.

You don't actually know anything about the rise of Hitler in Nazi Germany, do you?:facepalm

[TheMan]

Do does Obama and Hillary and every single other politician out there:facepalm



You don't actually know anything about the rise of Hitler in Nazi Germany, do you?:facepalm
:roll:

After the fall of the Weimer Republic and the sanctions levied on Germany, Hitler's speeches talked all about restoring Germany to prominence.

Simple question, did or did not Hitler use the Jewish people as a scapegoat to Germany's economic hardship? Are you telling me he never blamed Jews for Germany's woes? Was he right then? Jews were the problem? Why did he go after them, he just didn't like them?:facepalm

[Nick Young]

:roll:

After the fall of the Weimer Republic and the sanctions levied on Germany, Hitler's speeches talked all about restoring Germany to prominence.

Simple question, did or did not Hitler use the Jewish people as a scapegoat to Germany's economic hardship? Are you telling me he never blamed Jews for Germany's woes? Was he right then? Jews were the problem? Why did he go after them, he just didn't like them?:facepalm
Don't even pretend like you know what you're talking about here.:facepalm

[DonDadda59]

Trump is more Diamond Joe Quimby (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI7xL4o_ky0) than Hitler.

And that lady sounds like a sweet old grandmother.


Despite her early exit, Hamid did manage to speak with the Trump supporters sitting around her in the stands, several of whom held her hand and said "sorry" as she was forced to leave the venue.

"The people around me who I had an opportunity to talk with were very sweet," she said. "The people I did not make contact with, the people who Trump influenced were really nasty."

One woman Hamid spoke with in line remarked that she "didn't look scary," but "like a good one."

"People don't have a chance to see anything other than the Muslims they see on TV," Hamid said, pointing to footage of terrorists and Islamist militants.

Hamid said before the event that she was not concerned for her safety, explaining her ardent belief that "people are mostly decent."

After her chaotic exit, Hamid remained optimistic about the character of most people -- even those who shouted at her to "get out" -- instead blaming Trump's heated rhetoric and outsized influence.

"This demonstrates how when you start dehumanizing the other it can turn people into very hateful, ugly people," she said. "It needs to be known."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/politics/donald-trump-muslim-woman-protesting-ejected/index.html

:applause:

[Nick Young]

She equated her situation as a Muslim in America with Jews in Germany during the holocaust.


She is an attention starved ****ing moron.


"Muslim immigrants just raped Cologne? We American Muslims are the true victims in all this. Don't forget about me!"

That is what this idiotic solipsistic woman is saying with her "protest"

[TheMan]

Don't even pretend like you know what you're talking about here.:facepalm
Ok then, Hitler never used the Jews for political gain and he never blamed them for anything :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

She equated her situation as a Muslim in America with Jews in Germany during the holocaust.


She is an attention starved ****ing moron.

The star of David was used to identify Jews in public in Germany. Trump wants a registry/database of all Muslims in America.

The symbolism makes perfect sense. It really has nothing to do with extermination camps.



"Muslim immigrants just raped Cologne? We American Muslims are the true victims in all this. Don't forget about me!"

That is what this idiotic solipsistic woman is saying with her "protest"

She doesn't live in Cologne, makes sense she would focus on issues that affect her directly in this country.

You don't seem all that concerned that Buddhists are massacring Muslims in Burma/Myanmar.

[Nick Young]

Ok then, Hitler never used the Jews for political gain and he never blamed them for anything :oldlol:
Stop pretending like your Hitler/Trump comparison holds any merit, dumbass.


You have rekt yourself.

Just take the L and let it go breh.

[Nick Young]

She doesn't live in Cologne, makes sense she would focus on issues that affect her directly in this country.

You don't seem all that concerned that Buddhists are massacring Muslims in Burma/Myanmar.
"Don't forget about me! Us American Muslims are the true victims here! Not the rape victims in Cologne! Me! I'm the one who deserves attention here! Put me in the media please! Give ME a platform so I can spew my retarded message!"

[DonDadda59]

"Don't forget about me! Us American Muslims are the true victims here! Not the rape victims in Cologne! Me! I'm the one who deserves attention here! Put me in the media please! Give ME a platform so I can spew my retarded message!"

How is her message retarded?

There's plenty of horrible things that go on around the World every single day, but she has to worry about some random city in Germany because...

[TheMan]

Stop pretending like your Hitler/Trump comparison holds any merit, dumbass.


You have rekt yourself.

Just take the L and let it go breh.
Again, after Germany's defeat in WWII, Hitler blamed the Jews for many of Germany's woes and civic unrest, especially the communist movement lead by many Jews...he termed it Jewish Bolshevism.

He blamed the Jews for creating strife in Germany, isn't Trump doing the same going after some groups of people? He keeps talking about a return to American Greatness, we just gotta get rid of the unwanted first.

I didn't say the parralells were exactly alike but you can see why people would say Trump uses the same scare tactics for political gain. You said that Hillary and Obama use the same tactics, please tell me what ethnic, religious or racial groups do they demonize for political expediency :confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

Again, after Germany's defeat in WWII, Hitler blamed the Jews for many of Germany's woes and civic unrest, especially the communist movement lead by many Jews...he termed it Jewish Bolshevism.

He blamed the Jews for creating strife in Germany, isn't Trump doing the same going after some groups of people? He keeps talking about a return to American Greatness, we just gotta get rid of the unwanted first.

I didn't say the parralells were exactly alike but you can see why people would say Trump uses the same scare tactics for political gain. You said that Hillary and Obama use the same tactics, please tell me what ethnic, religious or racial groups do they demonize for political expediency :confusedshrug:
Stop dude.

Just take the L and walk away from this one.


Trump isn't saying "Muslims are responsible for America's problems." He's just saying he doesn't want to take on unvetted foreign Muslim rapefugees like Germany has been doing, and like Hilldawg and Obama are trying to do.


Trump is not pulling a Hitler here. Any comparison of Trump to Hitler is retarded.


I don't even like Trump.

Hitler comparisons are completely invalid.


This moronic attention seeking woman's protest using the Holocaust star is also invalid.

[TheMan]

Stop dude.

Just take the L and walk away from this one.


Trump isn't saying "Muslims are responsible for America's problems." He's just saying he doesn't want to take on unvetted foreign Muslim rapefugees like Germany has been doing, and like Hilldawg and Obama are trying to do.


Trump is not pulling a Hitler here. Any comparison of Trump to Hitler is retarded.


I don't even like Trump.

Hitler comparisons are completely invalid.


This moronic attention seeking woman's protest using the Holocaust star is also invalid.
We'll agree to disagree and I certainly won't hold the L on this one.

There are plenty of people out there comparing Trump's scare tactics to Hitler's. It's not the exact thing but I can see where they're coming from...

I do agree that the Star of David looking star she
wore was over the top though.

[Nick Young]

We'll agree to disagree and I certainly won't hold the L on this one.

There are plenty of people out there comparing Trump's scare tactics to Hitler's. It's not the exact thing but I can see where they're coming from...

I do agree that the Star of David looking star she
wore was over the top though.
Lots of people are going to vote for Hillary Clinton to become our next president, that doesn't mean that lots of people are correct.

[BoutPractice]

I find the incident where Trump asked security to confiscate a protester's coat and throw them out in sub-zero cold more revealing.

I don't even care what they were protesting about - those are mobster instincts. Nothing to do with ideology, fascism or anything like that. Just "gangsterism".

You know that famous Orwell quote about boots stamping on human faces?

Well, Trump clearly is happy playing the part of the boot.

The question is, are you really comfortable playing the part of the human face? Is this really what you want?

(Btw, a Berlusconi-style presidency is a possibility but probably the best case scenario for Trump. You'd get the corruption, vulgarity and general lowering of America's standing in the eyes of most of the world, but without transformative policies, which in the case of Trump is a good thing... you really don't want Trump transforming anything. You want him just enjoying power and riches)

[Nick Young]

I find the incident where Trump asked security to confiscate a protester's coat and throw them out in sub-zero cold more revealing.

I don't even care what they were protesting about - those are mobster instincts. Nothing to do with ideology, fascism or anything like that. Just "gangsterism".

You know that famous Orwell quote about boots stamping on human faces?

Well, Trump clearly is happy playing the part of the boot.

The question is, are you really comfortable playing the part of the human face? Is this really what you want?
The rest of the world would be the human face and America would be the boot.:rockon:

[StephHamann]

People are measured in Hitler.

Saddam is the new Hitler

Trump is the new Hitler


...

We need a Hitler score.

Saddam is 6/10 on the Hitler scala.

I'll say Trump only scores a low 2/10

[Dresta]

The Trump/Hitler comparisons are made mostly to point out the fact that Trump uses scare tactics to further his political aspirations. He tells tha American public that their woes are due to certain groups of people, just like Hitler did when he blamed the Jews for the German people's misfortune. We all know that it's mostly the rich and their bought off politicians that have the American people scraping for scraps while the rich (like the Donald) make off like bandits, laughing at us all the way to the bank.

It's hyperbole but if you can't see the parrallels, then you're being purposefully obtuse. No one believes he's gonna gas people if he becomes POTUS (LMAO).

That crazy Muslim woman who wanted ISIS to raise her children deserves every day in jail she gets, what an irresponsible piece of human shiit she is, SMH.
If you're going to make comparisons on as flimsy ground as that, then we could compare most politicians to Hitler. Pretty much all politicians use "scare tactics" - might as well say Hilary Clinton is like Hitler on account of her being a warmongering lunatic. I mean, it's hyperbole, but the parallels are there :confusedshrug:.

How about the leftist demonisation and incessant blaming of the failure of all their utopian projects on abstracted groups like "Wall St." "The 1%" and "Bankers" - might as well stop drumming up all that hate, because it makes you look like Hitler.

Really, such a comparison is completely groundless. Do you not see how comparing a Presidential candidate to someone who is widely regarded as the most evil man in human history, is the most blatant of 'scare tactics'? Does that one really whizz over your head so easily?

[NumberSix]

:roll:

After the fall of the Weimer Republic and the sanctions levied on Germany, Hitler's speeches talked all about restoring Germany to prominence.

Simple question, did or did not Hitler use the Jewish people as a scapegoat to Germany's economic hardship? Are you telling me he never blamed Jews for Germany's woes? Was he right then? Jews were the problem? Why did he go after them, he just didn't like them?:facepalm
What are you talking about? When did Trump ever blame America's problems on Muslims? :confusedshrug:

He constantly blames America's problems on stupid politicians and bad trade deals with China. Until the ISIS attacks in Paris, he never even mentioned Muslims. And all he ever said was to put a pause on Muslim immigration until we can figure out a proper vetting process. I'm pretty sure that Hitler's stance on the Jews was a little harsher than that.

[9erempiree]

Holy cow! :eek: Trump is Hitler?

The extremes that people will bring up to put a candidate down.

The racist libtards are at it again. She had a head dress on and was threw out because she was Muslim. Very racist from the libtards to think she was thrown out because she was Muslim.

Perhaps, she was thrown out for being a trouble maker.

[TheMan]

If you're going to make comparisons on as flimsy ground as that, then we could compare most politicians to Hitler. Pretty much all politicians use "scare tactics" - might as well say Hilary Clinton is like Hitler on account of her being a warmongering lunatic. I mean, it's hyperbole, but the parallels are there :confusedshrug:.

How about the leftist demonisation and incessant blaming of the failure of all their utopian projects on abstracted groups like "Wall St." "The 1%" and "Bankers" - might as well stop drumming up all that hate, because it makes you look like Hitler.

Really, such a comparison is completely groundless. Do you not see how comparing a Presidential candidate to someone who is widely regarded as the most evil man in human history, is the most blatant of 'scare tactics'? Does that one really whizz over your head so easily?
To be brutally honest, and before y'all go crazy...Hitler was a great leader.

Did he not raise a war torn nation (rife with civic unrest, high unemplyment, low morale, threat of communism) and take them to the brink of greatness?

Sure, he overreached, starting a war on two fronts was a huge military blunder but he led the Third Reich to swallowing up most of Europe rather easily. Dude was alpha af, did he have shortcommings, obviously, but who is perfect?

The German people were once again a feared and proud nation under his leadership, everyone was employed, they were back to innovating and inventing technological advancements, their scientists were top notch (they were on the brink of creating the first atomic bomb, if they did, we'd all be speaking German today), their wehrmacht was on GOAT level (dat Blitzkrieg) and they had Europe on their knees.

Again, take into account where Germany was after the fall of the Weimer Republic...dude was a beast, whether you like him or not, hard not to give him props for that.

People give him such a negative all because of that whole holocaust thing, but overlook the achievements :facepalm

[sammichoffate]

To be brutally honest, and before y'all go crazy...Hitler was a great leader.

Did he not raise a war torn nation (rife with civic unrest, high unemplyment, low morale, threat of communism) and take them to the brink of greatness?

Sure, he overreached, starting a war on two fronts was a huge military blunder but he led the Third Reich to swallowing up most of Europe rather easily. Dude was alpha af, did he have shortcommings, obviously, but who is perfect?

The German people were once again a feared and proud nation under his leadership, everyone was employed, they were back to innovating and inventing technological advancements, their scientists were top notch (they were on the brink of creating the first atomic bomb, if they did, we'd all be speaking German today), their wehrmacht was on GOAT level (dat Blitzkrieg) and they had Europe on their knees.

Again, take into account where Germany was after the fall of the Weimer Republic...dude was a beast, whether you like him or not, hard not to give him props for that.

People give him such a negative all because of that whole holocaust thing, but overlook the achievements :facepalmIt's not as simple as that, but you're not wrong. Getting out of the Great Depression certainly helped Hitler gain more supporters, even though his ideology was the worst humanity has seen in the modern era along with Communism in Asia.

[Nick Young]

To be brutally honest, and before y'all go crazy...Hitler was a great leader.

Did he not raise a war torn nation (rife with civic unrest, high unemplyment, low morale, threat of communism) and take them to the brink of greatness?

Sure, he overreached, starting a war on two fronts was a huge military blunder but he led the Third Reich to swallowing up most of Europe rather easily. Dude was alpha af, did he have shortcommings, obviously, but who is perfect?

The German people were once again a feared and proud nation under his leadership, everyone was employed, they were back to innovating and inventing technological advancements, their scientists were top notch (they were on the brink of creating the first atomic bomb, if they did, we'd all be speaking German today), their wehrmacht was on GOAT level (dat Blitzkrieg) and they had Europe on their knees.

Again, take into account where Germany was after the fall of the Weimer Republic...dude was a beast, whether you like him or not, hard not to give him props for that.

People give him such a negative all because of that whole holocaust thing, but overlook the achievements :facepalm
I agree with you here. He was brutally effective.
He was morally despicable, but in terms of being effective leader, no one can say he didn't do a good job. If he didn't go in on Russia he probably would have taken all of Europe.

Some people say that Hitler only attacked Russia because he had intelligence that Russia was going to break the truce and surprise attack Germany-I don't know if that's true though.

[tomtucker]

I don

[CeltsGarlic]

It was pretty fair to assume she had a bomb. Good decision.

[Dresta]

To be brutally honest, and before y'all go crazy...Hitler was a great leader.

Did he not raise a war torn nation (rife with civic unrest, high unemplyment, low morale, threat of communism) and take them to the brink of greatness?

Sure, he overreached, starting a war on two fronts was a huge military blunder but he led the Third Reich to swallowing up most of Europe rather easily. Dude was alpha af, did he have shortcommings, obviously, but who is perfect?

The German people were once again a feared and proud nation under his leadership, everyone was employed, they were back to innovating and inventing technological advancements, their scientists were top notch (they were on the brink of creating the first atomic bomb, if they did, we'd all be speaking German today), their wehrmacht was on GOAT level (dat Blitzkrieg) and they had Europe on their knees.

Again, take into account where Germany was after the fall of the Weimer Republic...dude was a beast, whether you like him or not, hard not to give him props for that.

People give him such a negative all because of that whole holocaust thing, but overlook the achievements :facepalm
I don't really see how this is relevant to my post... but i largely disagree anyway. The industrial capacity of Germany meant it was always going to be a great power, and that it was always going to try to dominate Europe (which it is again doing today, despite terrible defeat in two world wars). France simply couldn't compete (and that was becoming evident before WW1), and the Brits never had mass-conscript armies of the Continental type until they foolishly entered WW1 (as the Kaiser liked to joke when asked about the British: 'Dreadnoughts have no wheels'). They were surprised Britain entered the war, and German interests were primarily about expanding eastwards, to take large amounts of valuable territory from Russia. Funnily enough, Germany is projecting its power in the same direction today (just through 'peaceful' means - i.e. money, resources, destabilization, and political pressure), and the result has been a needless civil war in Ukraine, a renewal of that old conflict between Russia and Germany (in the same regions), but with the US supporting Germany this time for some reason (and comparing the Russian leader to Hitler :lol). Few of the people fighting there today will have heard of the treaty of Brest-Litovsk, but they are reenacting the unresolved conflicts of a century ago (that great tug of war between German and Russian power).

While people keep fatuously talking about Hitler, the current geopolitical climate is far more like 1914 than like the 1930s, when the world powers of that time effectively sleepwalked into the worst conflict in human history, and gained nothing from doing so (well, aside from the decay of religion and the resurgence of totalist ideologies all throughout Europe).

The one aspect in which Hitler excelled above all others was as a demagogue and a mover of the masses. It's like in Mein Kampf: whenever he talks about history or politics, his political ideas, and so on, he comes across as a deranged and delusional lunatic, but when he starts talking about the people, the masses and how to get them on side, well, he's a genius of sorts. Him and Goebbels combined were without peer in this respect; they'd do things like hold rallies at night because people were more impressionable in the dark. Clever stuff; ahead of its time, though nowadays we are treated in a similar fashion by the corporate oligarchy that is the primary moulder of public opinion. Manipulation of the masses has now been refined to an art-form, and has little to do with individual leaders (who are largely irrelevant, and have all been a part of the same continuum - any outsider to this is endlessly maligned and smeared from all directions). News stories are especially picked or pushed to the forefront, and deliberately told in a way so as to manipulate sentiments in a particular direction, and to hide things that would otherwise be considered important. People dismiss this sort of thing as 'conspiracyish' - but in reality these sorts of things are prearranged by people uniting under common interests, usually over lunch.

I actually think what Aldous Huxley wrote after WW2 still kind of holds:


For the last thirty years there have been no conservatives; there have only been nationalistic radicals of the right and nationalistic radicals of the left. The last conservative statesman was the fifth Marquess of Lansdowne; and when he wrote a letter to The Times, suggesting that the First World War should be concluded with a compromise, as most of the wars of the eighteenth century had been, the editor of that once conservative journal refused to print it. The nationalistic radicals had their way, with the consequences that we all know—Bolshevism, Fascism, inflation, depression, Hitler, the Second World War, the ruin of Europe and all but universal famine.

Ignoring that the 'radical right' is something of a contradiction in terms, what he has to say about conservatism, and particularly, prudent and conservative statesmanship, is very true. Radicals of one stripe or another have been the holders of power in the 20th century, and the result has been incredibly destructive. Since WW2, radicalism has found a new outlet (because it always takes new forms: otherwise it couldn't survive), in open-border multiculturalism, buffered by unselective policies of mass immigration (just about as radical as it gets), and a continuous undermining, through television and the mass-media, of traditional mores and customs, which are now more often ridiculed than they are adhered to (not to mention the encouragement of mass indebtedness through compulsive consumption, the endless obsession with growth and so on). This too, will not end well.

The 20th century has clearly proven the essential need for actual conservatism, and also the inherent destructiveness of all forms of radicalism.

Churchill said in 1901: “Democracy is more vindictive than Cabinets. The wars of peoples will be more terrible than those of kings.”

And he has been proven right in this assertion. King Numbers is a dangerous person to put your faith in, yet that is now the default position of most people. The reason why the US Constitution restrains Executive power is so that someone like Trump could never be a Hitler, even if he were his twin - the fact that liberals are now crying about a potential despotism under Trump only goes to prove how wrong they were to sanction the sweeping away of all restraints placed on Executive power. You let people like Lincoln and FDR and Johnson and Bush and Obama run all over the Constitution, setting precedents that tear down its restraints - and then you're surprised when someone you don't like uses those same powers to do things you disapprove of?