If Philly ends up with 1st & 2nd picks overall ...

[Marchesk]

Let's say the Lakers finish fourth worst. Philly gets the pick and wins the lottery with it. Their pick is second. So now they have the first and second overall picks.

I assume they take Ben Simmons. But now they have a glut of bigs, so one of those bigs will get traded, probably for a perimeter player. And then they take the best guard available at #2.

At which point, they don't need to tank any longer (or accumulate draft picks).

[ISHGoat]

The lakers pick is top 3 protected, meaning the best Sixers can do is 1st and 4th

[Dr Seuss]

What the fck are you talking about?

[Marchesk]

The lakers pick is top 3 protected, meaning the best Sixers can do is 1st and 4th

Oh, so the lotter happens first. I see.

[ortonsaw]

#brainfart

[Marchesk]

What the fck are you talking about?

Philly can have two high lottery picks if the Lakers screw up their tank job. I'm just wondering what they would do with the 1st and fourth picks if it turned out that way (since it can't be 1st and higher than four).

[Marchesk]

On a related note, the lottery is supposed to discourage tanking, but it seems NBA teams tank more than any other league.

[ISHGoat]

On a related note, the lottery is supposed to discourage tanking, but it seems NBA teams tank more than any other league.

Because the NBA playoffs are 7 game series with very low series variance.

[WayOfWade]

On a related note, the lottery is supposed to discourage tanking, but it seems NBA teams tank more than any other league.
I think it has to do more with the more prominent teams dominating for long stretches and other franchises just being eternal basement dwellers, thus developing the culture of tanking to try and change since it's their only way out, because who wants to go play for a horrible team?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Philly needs Ingram

[SwishSquared]

Philly can have two high lottery picks if the Lakers screw up their tank job. I'm just wondering what they would do with the 1st and fourth picks if it turned out that way (since it can't be 1st and higher than four).Likely would take Simmons/Ingram #1 overall and it depends who they deem is BPA. At #4, it may be Murray or Dunn. Bender could drop if teams don't want to wait the likely 2 years it will take for him to leap to the NBA.

If they do get #1 and #4, I'd argue that they should trade a package to get up to #2 to take both Ingram and Simmons. Who/what would they give up? That remains to be seen.

[GOBB]

This was a thread fail. :oldlol:

Best case scenario is Sixers get the 1st and 4th picks in the draft.

You take Ben Simmons at 1, then best guard at 4. Murray/Dunn. Ingram fits the "need" a perimeter scorer/shooter. But Sixers have operated under the BPA theory since Hinkie came aboard, so why should I think this draft is any different? :confusedshrug:

[GOBB]

Likely would take Simmons/Ingram #1 overall and it depends who they deem is BPA. At #4, it may be Murray or Dunn. Bender could drop if teams don't want to wait the likely 2 years it will take for him to leap to the NBA.

If they do get #1 and #4, I'd argue that they should trade a package to get up to #2 to take both Ingram and Simmons. Who/what would they give up? That remains to be seen.

Agree with this

Should have just waited or checked before I posted. :lol :cheers:

[f0und]

they should implement a rule that says you cant get a top 3 pick more than two years in a row, no matter how much you suck that third year

[Ca$H]

The sixers should trade Okafor to Boston for the Brooklyn pick. Package Embiid and Saric to the Lakers in exchange for making the pick unprotected.

Dunn
Ingram
Simmons
Noel

[BigTicket]

It will be a lot more fun if the Celtics end up with the first pick. They have the unprotected Nets pick for both 2016 and 2018 + right to swap in 2017. If you look at the troubles the Nets are in, that could be three straight top 5 picks.

[Marchesk]

The sixers should trade Okafor to Boston for the Brooklyn pick. Package Embiid and Saric to the Lakers in exchange for making the pick unprotected.

Dunn
Ingram
Simmons
Noel

That would be some exciting moves. Helps Boston and LA this year, gives Philly fan light at the end of the tunnel.

[Marchesk]

It will be a lot more fun if the Celtics end up with the first pick. They have the unprotected Nets pick for both 2016 and 2018 + right to swap in 2017. If you look at the troubles the Nets are in, that could be three straight top 5 picks.

Damn. And the Celtics actually have a good young roster as it is.

[Clifton]

Philly is going to be in Basketball Inferno for a long time. Don't worry about the best case scenario: it won't happen.

Your odds of getting Ben Simmons are something like 1 in 3. Even if you do get him, he could get injured, he could leave in free agency before his prime... players don't win titles franchises do. Spurs got Duncan and look what happened with them... but they were the Spurs. Magic got Penny and he got hurt; got Shaq and they lost him because they were the Magic. Don't be the Magic. It's never worked.

[G-Funk]

Only way Philly gets the Lakers pick is if it falls out of the top 3. Lakers keep it if it's 1-3

[GOBB]

Philly is going to be in Basketball Inferno for a long time. Don't worry about the best case scenario: it won't happen.

Stop. And yes I'm not holding my breath on best case scenario just correcting the OP. But basketball inferno? See Kings, see Wolves. Yanno two teams lottery bound and have a chance at winning a top 3 pick.


Your odds of getting Ben Simmons are something like 1 in 3. Even if you do get him, he could get injured, he could leave in free agency before his prime...

That applies to ANY team that drafts him.


players don't win titles franchises do.

:eek:

Groundbreaking

[GOBB]

they should implement a rule that says you cant get a top 3 pick more than two years in a row, no matter how much you suck that third year

Why? When you have the wolves and kings stuck in the lottery year after year. 2016 those two teams are in lottery again. No issue with them tho. Ok. :rolleyes:

[r0drig0lac]

Likely would take Simmons/Ingram #1 overall and it depends who they deem is BPA. At #4, it may be Murray or Dunn. Bender could drop if teams don't want to wait the likely 2 years it will take for him to leap to the NBA.

If they do get #1 and #4, I'd argue that they should trade a package to get up to #2 to take both Ingram and Simmons. Who/what would they give up? That remains to be seen.
agree

[Bay Area Baller]

Theres a man from Michigan state named, Nairn Jr., Lourawls 'Tum Tum'. He could be the next Draymond. So yeah think about it. :roll: :roll: jk

point being these drafts are so hit and miss gms should ditch bpa or whatever there doing and go with a player showing highest potential and or a player that fits there needs. And do what ...uh develop them. :hammerhead:

[el gringos]

This was a thread fail. :oldlol:

Best case scenario is Sixers get the 1st and 4th picks in the draft.

You take Ben Simmons at 1, then best guard at 4. Murray/Dunn. Ingram fits the "need" a perimeter scorer/shooter. But Sixers have operated under the BPA theory since Hinkie came aboard, so why should I think this draft is any different? :confusedshrug:
Mostly right. But since they've gone bpa shouldn't you have said that hopefully #4 is a pg? Because if it's bender or brown that they see over a pg they would right ?

Or will this be the time they switch to need? Let's say hypothetically they get 1 and 4. Simmons @1 and Ingram and skai as 2&3.


Simmons/saric
Okafor/Noel/embiid


Are they ready to pick Dunn or Murray over Bender?

[SwishSquared]

Agree with this

Should have just waited or checked before I posted. :lol :cheers::cheers:

I def think Simmons is #1 right now and that's unlikely to change. It may not be through the draft, but I'd be really surprised if there isn't roster turnover this summer in Philly.

I'd guess that up to one third of the current roster won't return next season.

[GOBB]

Mostly right. But since they've gone bpa shouldn't you have said that hopefully #4 is a pg? Because if it's bender or brown that they see over a pg they would right ?

Or will this be the time they switch to need? Let's say hypothetically they get 1 and 4. Simmons @1 and Ingram and skai as 2&3.


Simmons/saric
Okafor/Noel/embiid


Are they ready to pick Dunn or Murray over Bender?

I have no clue about Bender. I just checked and dude is 7'0. Their first pick has always been BPA is my point. Are you saying Bender is better than Murray/Dunn? Skal is not a top 5 pick at this point. He needs to stay in school.

[GOBB]

:cheers:

I def think Simmons is #1 right now and that's unlikely to change. It may not be through the draft, but I'd be really surprised if there isn't roster turnover this summer in Philly.

I'd guess that up to one third of the current roster won't return next season.

I'm expecting it.

[coin24]

Why? When you have the wolves and kings stuck in the lottery year after year. 2016 those two teams are in lottery again. No issue with them tho. Ok. :rolleyes:


Have to agree with this. Wtf is up with the wolves? They have a ton of talent now, looked good to start the year now they're just free falling..

The kings are just woeful they should have moved that shitshow to Seattle

[SwishSquared]

I have no clue about Bender. I just checked and dude is 7'0. Their first pick has always been BPA is my point. Are you saying Bender is better than Murray/Dunn? Skal is not a top 5 pick at this point. He needs to stay in school.He's a better player, according to experts, than Porzingis was at the same age. Supposed to be more mobile. He isn't as good of a shooter, but Bender apparently has a better BBIQ at the same age.

He's #3 on my board (behind Simmons and Ingram). I think he's a better prospect than Murray or Dunn. He needs to add strength, but he's only 18 still, so I expect that to come with age.

I've never watched him and that's stuff I've gleaned from people who follow the draft a whole heck of a lot more than I do.

[SwishSquared]

Have to agree with this. Wtf is up with the wolves? They have a ton of talent now, looked good to start the year now they're just free falling..

The kings are just woeful they should have moved that shitshow to SeattleIt's hard for young talent to thrive when their coach has been the worst in the league most likely.

[HurricaneKid]

Philly is going to be in Basketball Inferno for a long time. Don't worry about the best case scenario: it won't happen.

Your odds of getting Ben Simmons are something like 1 in 3. Even if you do get him, he could get injured, he could leave in free agency before his prime... players don't win titles franchises do. Spurs got Duncan and look what happened with them... but they were the Spurs. Magic got Penny and he got hurt; got Shaq and they lost him because they were the Magic. Don't be the Magic. It's never worked.

Odds for the best team to win the lotto is 25%. Strangely, last season was the only time it has happened for 13 years or something.

But the #2 pick is pretty nice this year too. Ingram may very well be a superstar himself.

Part of the problem is that Philly has had really bad luck in the lottery. It had the 3rd pick in a 1 man draft last year, and a last day win may very well have caused them to take Okafor when they could have had Towns. Two years ago they dropped int eh lottery again and picked 3rd in a two man lotto. So bad luck, coupled with taking assets that were injured/abroad has slowed the process for Philly. Luck plays a big role. And they haven't been lucky.

[tmacattack33]

On a related note, the lottery is supposed to discourage tanking, but it seems NBA teams tank more than any other league.

It's because no borderline NBA team (like the Jazz or Celtics this year) has any chance of going to the playoffs and upsetting 4 good playoff teams over a course of a 7 game series, without home court advantage in any of them.

[Sarcastic]

Let's say they end up with #3 and #4. Do they trade those 2 picks + maybe Okafor for Simmons?

[Marchesk]

Let's say they end up with #3 and #4. Do they trade those 2 picks + maybe Okafor for Simmons?

Which of the following teams would accept that trade with the first pick?

Timberwolves
Pelicans
Celtics (Nets pick)
Suns
Nuggets

[el gringos]

I have no clue about Bender. I just checked and dude is 7'0. Their first pick has always been BPA is my point. Are you saying Bender is better than Murray/Dunn? Skal is not a top 5 pick at this point. He needs to stay in school.
I'm expecting to see bender be a 3-5 pick. Just used As an example for someone at pick 3 as a c or PF. If the clear #4 was bender kind of situation. Does Philly stay bpa then or do they switch to need.

[SwishSquared]

Let's say they end up with #3 and #4. Do they trade those 2 picks + maybe Okafor for Simmons?#3, #4, and Okafor is a huge price to pay for Simmons. I doubt their FO goes for that, even if Colangelo is 100% in charge.

[el gringos]

I like where Philadelphia is at. Too bad all of a sudden this year it seems like people are throwing crap at them for going with this plan. I think the tough part is that you have to stick with it for atleast another season or even 2 before trying to turn it around


This whole thing could turn around with Embiid still. This will be one of the most interesting draft lotteries with Boston, LA, and Philadelphia have so much at stake. Minnesota and New Orleans both possibly having dream matches to pair Simmons with (ad or towns and wiggins)