Greater NBA Finals shot--Paxson in '93 or Ray Ray in '13? [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 03:26 AM

WayOfWade

01-12-2016, 03:28 AM

WayOfWade

01-12-2016, 03:29 AM

I still get chills when I see that Ray shot
Me too, watching that live was incredible

Lebron23

01-12-2016, 03:30 AM

Ray Allen. They beat a much, much superior team in the NBA Finals. 13' Spurs > 93 Suns.

Angel Face

01-12-2016, 03:31 AM

LAKingKobe

01-12-2016, 03:31 AM

Wow dude. You wrote a pointless paragraph that no one cares about because you are a fraud. You act with a brashness as if you're own opinion can somehow turn into fact.
Ray Allens shot was epic... Flipped the entire series around
Never has there been a shot that was more timely.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 03:31 AM

Ray's was more impressive, but Paxson's was more important and impactful. At least in my mind, 3-Peat>Repeat, Series Winner>Series Saver. If we're talking only insidehoops importance, then Ray-Ray's because people are idiots and use that incredible shot to either discredit or credit a superstar who's name I will not mention

Right, because said superstar clearly didn't choke and get bailed out whereas MJ decided that he wasn't gong to jack up a shot but instead run a proper play.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 03:50 AM

Right, because said superstar clearly didn't choke and get bailed out whereas MJ decided that he wasn't gong to jack up a shot but instead run a proper play.
Lol, this fanboy credits MJ for Paxson's shot!
What's next? MJ also set up Allen's shot? Because if Jordan never played then Allen would have never existed.
This dude is so far up Jordan's ass he can see what Jordan had for breakfast

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:00 AM

Lol, this fanboy credits MJ for Paxson's shot!
What's next? MJ also set up Allen's shot? Because if Jordan never played then Allen would have never existed.
This dude is so far up Jordan's ass he can see what Jordan had for breakfast

Oh look, it's hateraid coming to hang on my nuts like he does in every thread. What a shocker. Yes, MJ initiated the play for Paxton's shot while Lebron choked and had to be bailed out.

oarabbus

01-12-2016, 04:02 AM

Allen, desperation shot. He missed it Lebron will be 1/6 right now. Paxson shot was drew up during the huddle. Even if he missed it there will be game 7 and we all know what the GOAT does in the Finals.

This. Jordan was the GOAT anyway (even if they had lost that series and not 3peated). Ray literally changed LeBron's legacy, and majorly impacted Bosh and Wade's legacy.

Plus, the shot itself was just nuts, the way Bosh got the offensive board and the way Allen steps so perfectly behind the 3 point line. It was so insane and incredible to watch that. Jumped out of my seat in disbelief, the Spurs had the series SEALED.

sportjames23

01-12-2016, 04:03 AM

Ray Allen. They beat a much, much superior team in the NBA Finals. 13' Spurs > 93 Suns.

You ever watch that Suns team? Barkley was a fuggin BEAST that season and the Suns were an all-time great offense that the Bulls had trouble locking down, like trying to catch an eel with your hands. That team would run this current NBA.

Naero

01-12-2016, 04:04 AM

Ray Allen's shot, and it's really not even that close.

No other shot in NBA Finals history spells the difference between imminent elimination and a breathing chance at winning a championship more vividly than this one. The only safety blanket a missed three-pointer from Ray Allen had was 5.2 seconds; no margin for error was narrower than that when it pertains to the aftereffects of other all-time-clutch shots.

guy

01-12-2016, 04:04 AM

Allen, desperation shot. He missed it Lebron will be 1/6 right now. Paxson shot was drew up during the huddle. Even if he missed it there will be game 7 and we all know what the GOAT does in the Finals.

This. The historical implications are much bigger with the Ray shot. I don't think anyone is betting against Jordan in the Finals, even if its game 7 on the road so it doesn't make much of a difference.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:06 AM

Most impressive bail out shot in finals history. Literally saved Lebron from being 1/6. You think 2/6 is bad....imagine 1/6 for this colluder. It would be so bad Jeff would have to charge money to be a member on here! :lol

Lebron23

01-12-2016, 04:14 AM

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:16 AM

Oh look, it's hateraid coming to hang on my nuts like he does in every thread. What a shocker. Yes, MJ initiated the play for Paxton's shot while Lebron choked and had to be bailed out.

Haha! You're a moron. Just because he brought up the ball doesn't mean he initiated the shot. It touched 2 other people before it got to Paxson. By your reasoning the inbounder should get credit for inbounding it to Jordan.
This right here is why you have no credibility or no knowledge of basketball. You exaggerate everything Jordan does.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:24 AM

Haha! You're a moron. Just because he brought up the ball doesn't mean he initiated the shot. It touched 2 other people before it got to Paxson. By your reasoning the inbounder should get credit for inbounding it to Jordan.
This right here is why you have no credibility or no knowledge of basketball. You exaggerate everything Jordan does.

:facepalm
If you knew anything you would know that the ball has to be inbounded by SOMEONE in order for the offense to initiate. Had the inbounder thrown a lob it would be one thing, but the ball was inbounded to MJ a few steps away, who ran the crisp play. It touched 2 other people by DESIGN.

Lebron on the other hand CHOKED and had to be bailed the fvck out.

keep grabbing for straws...all you do is discredit yourself

sportjames23

01-12-2016, 04:26 AM

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:31 AM

:facepalm
If you knew anything you would know that the ball has to be inbounded by SOMEONE in order for the offense to initiate. Had the inbounder thrown a lob it would be one thing, but the ball was inbounded to MJ a few steps away, who ran the crisp play. It touched 2 other people by DESIGN.

Lebron on the other hand CHOKED and had to be bailed the fvck out.

keep grabbing for straws...all you do is discredit yourself

That's a ****ing stretch man. So let's just give credit to the pre hockey pass or the guy who crosses half court for all of Jordan's game winners since, you know, they initiated all of Jordan's shots. :lol

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:37 AM

This clown is living up to his username. :facepalm

Aren't you tired of Straight_Ballin slayin you?

Looky here, it's Ed McMahon back again to say," yes! you are correct sir!"
Getting slayed would refer to using some semblance of a fact against someone. You don't have a clue what slay means do you? Now go to bed and let the big boys talk. Better yet hold your breath until Jeff opens registration so you can create more accounts to agree with yourself.
BTW, you hear that sound? It's the sound of a couple of thousand members crossing their fingers praying this actually happens and Jeff never opens registration

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:41 AM

Lebron is living rent free inside your head. I love to see your reactions when he wins his 3rd NBA title/Finals MVP this year. Cavs are on a roll. And they will be healthy in the playoffs.

All of your posts are Anti LeBron. You never contribute anything in this forum. And that's the reality of your posting career here.

You are probably a fat or skinny, lonely, person in real life. And not capable of having social interaction with another person.
Trust me, he doesn't have any social skills or a grasp of reality. He tries to go out but he has rigged his computer to signal any time the word Lebron or Jordan gets typed. He has never left the house since. :lol

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:41 AM

That's a ****ing stretch man. So let's just give credit to the pre hockey pass or the guy who crosses half court for all of Jordan's game winners since, you know, they initiated all of Jordan's shots. :lol

Jordan is the one who in bounded the ball at the start of the play! It was then given back to him to bring the ball up court and initiate the play. Jackson drew it up and MJ ran it with the option of taking the shot himself if need be. Pippin was open, so they proceeded with the play. It's not a stretch of any kind.

Now compare that crisp execution to Lebron choking and getting bailed out. :lol

sportjames23

01-12-2016, 04:43 AM

Looky here, it's Ed McMahon back again to say," yes! you are correct sir!"
Getting slayed would refer to using some semblance of a fact against someone. You don't have a clue what slay means do you? Now go to bed and let the big boys talk. Better yet hold your breath until Jeff opens registration so you can create more accounts to agree with yourself.
BTW, you hear that sound? It's the sound of a couple of thousand members crossing their fingers praying this actually happens and Jeff never opens registration

Meltdown confirmed.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:45 AM

Jordan is the one who in bounded the ball at the start of the play! It was then given back to him to bring the ball up court and initiate the play. Jackson drew it up and MJ ran it with the option of taking the shot himself if need be. Pippin was open, so they proceeded with the play. It's not a stretch of any kind.

Now compare that crisp execution to Lebron choking and getting bailed out. :lol

Who the **** cares about Lebron choking. The fact you give Jordan the credit for Paxson hitting the shot is about as asinine as it gets. Look up asinine. It will have your comment as an example of the definition. Like I said, by your definition of setting up the shot every player who's played with Jordan that has brought the ball up the court should take credit for his shot.
By God, you don't have a clue, do you?

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:46 AM

Lebron is living rent free inside your head. I love to see your reactions when he wins his 3rd NBA title/Finals MVP this year. Cavs are on a roll. And they will be healthy in the playoffs.

All of your posts are Anti LeBron. You never contribute anything in this forum. And that's the reality of your posting career here.

You are probably a fat or skinny, lonely, person in real life. And not capable of having social interaction with another person.

How many times do I have to tell you and every other bran stan to quit whining and bet accounts if you think Lebron is going to win it this year. I've already offered this bet up because I'm confident in knowing what Lebron is capable of and what he's not.

Guys like you and Hateraid who don't even live in the states are arguing with someone who has seen lebron play live at the Q more times than anyone on this site. It's rather comical.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:49 AM

Paxton's shot happened off a crisp play where the ball went from MJ, to Pippen, to Grant, then back out to Paxton.

Ray Allen's shot came off a choke by lebron, Bosh luckily rebounding it, and then kicking it out to Allen who pulled off the most difficult shot in finals history and saved Lebron's career.

This comparison clearly shows MJ's high IQ over Lebron on how to initiate the proper play with the game on the line over an irratic play made by a vastly inferior player (Lebron)

I have to requote myself because hateraid is too stupid to know the difference between crediting MJ with a shot, and stating that Paxton's shot happened off a crisp play imitated by MJ. Someone has to initiate the play. It really is too easy owning this guy and proving that his attempts to twist what others say are failed attempts backed by shit logic.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:49 AM

Meltdown confirmed.
^^^
Typical reply from someone who's clearly beat. :lol . I got these guys mind raped so bad they won't get sleep tonight trying to figure out another witty comeback. You want to burn me? Go out and physically make a friend. Post a picture of this friend holding a sign that says sportjames23 is my friend and I will change my avy to a Jordan picture for a year. You put me in my place AND you get your first ever friend outside your house. It's a win win.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:53 AM

^^^
Typical reply from someone who's clearly beat. :lol . I got these guys mind raped so bad they won't get sleep tonight trying to figure out another witty comeback. You want to burn me? Go out and physically make a friend. Post a picture of this friend holding a sign that says sportjames23 is my friend and I will change my avy to Jordan picture for a year. You put me I my place AND you get your first ever friend outside your house. It's a win win.

See post 30.

You are getting slayed left and right.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:53 AM

I have to requote myself because hateraid is too stupid to know the difference between crediting MJ with a shot, and stating that Paxton's shot happened off a crisp play imitated by MJ. Someone has to initiate the play. It really is too easy owning this guy and proving that his attempts to twist what others say are failed attempts backed by shit logic.
All that post proves is you have Lebron living rent free in your head and that same head is stuck up Jordan's ass. You're just not bright enough to see it.
Paxson hit the shot period. Not because of Jordan, but because he's one of the greatest clutch 3 point shooters who ever lived. But you're too much of a nitwit to understand.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:54 AM

See post 30.

You are getting slayed left and right.

Has no substantial comeback. Resorts again to duck tales. :lol
It's so easy to put out how stupid you are. Hey "Paxton?"
:roll:

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 04:57 AM

All that post proves is you have Lebron living rent free in your head and that same head is tuck up Jordan's ass. You're just not bright enough to see it.
Paxson hit the shot period. Not because of Jordan, but because he's one of the greatest clutch 3 point shooters who ever lived. But you're too much of a nitwit to understand.

He hit the shot and it was off a crisp play that was initiated by MJ. If you don't understand the definition of the word, go look it up. I don't know how you can't comprehend it when the video is linked in the first post!

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:58 AM

I have to requote myself because hateraid is too stupid to know the difference between crediting MJ with a shot, and stating that Paxton's shot happened off a crisp play imitated by MJ. Someone has to initiate the play. It really is too easy owning this guy and proving that his attempts to twist what others say are failed attempts backed by shit logic.

First he accuses me of not living in the states and then he spells one of the greatest shooters who's ever lived Paxton. His credibility is dwindling by the post. Who is this Paxton? Did he play with Pippin? We're they coached by Jaxon?

hateraid

01-12-2016, 04:59 AM

He hit the shot and it was off a crisp play that was initiated by MJ. If you don't understand the definition of the word, go look it up. I don't know how you can't comprehend it when the video is linked in the first post!
Bringing up the ball doesn't make the shot for Paxson you dummy! By God, you really have no idea about the game.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 05:08 AM

Bringing up the ball doesn't make the shot for Paxson you dummy! By God, you really have no idea about the game.

I never said Jordan made the shot. I said he initiated the play and I commented on his IQ and compared it to the Miami play where Bron choked and had to rely on a miracle shot by Ray Ray.

Everything else is just you attempting to claim I'm exaggerating MJ's impact on the play, which anyone with a brain can read from the initial post that I'm not. That's why no one agrees with your shit logic.

Try and keep up.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 05:14 AM

I never said Jordan made the shot. I said he initiated the play and I commented on his IQ and compared it to the Miami play where Bron choked and had to rely on a miracle shot by Ray Ray.

Everything else is just you attempting to claim I'm exaggerating MJ's impact on the play, which anyone with a brain can read from the initial post that I'm not. That's why no one agrees with your shit logic.

Try and keep up.

I didn't say Jordan shot the ball peabrain. But the way you credit Jordan for Paxson's shot makes it sound like he did.
And who's agreeing with you? I haven't seen anyone. The argument is being made who's shot is more impactful. You're the only person claiming Jordan should get credit for Paxson's shot. Then you keen bringing Bran the choker intonthis like it has relevance to this conversation. Dude, you are lost and hopeless.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 05:18 AM

I didn't say Jordan shot the ball peabrain. But the way you credit Jordan for Paxson's shot makes it sound like he did.
And who's agreeing with you? I haven't seen anyone. The argument is being made who's shot is more impactful. You're the only person claiming Jordan should get credit for Paxson's shot. Then you keen bringing Bran the choker intonthis like it has relevance to this conversation. Dude, you are lost and hopeless.

We already know that Ray's shot was more impactful. The conversation expanded to what occurred prior to the shot! Try and keep up, I'm tired of piggybackin your ass.

Maybe you can pretend that rays shot didn't make up for Lebron's choke. Maybe you can pretend that Bron didn't shoot the ball prior to Bosh rebounding it and kicking it out to Ray. Hell, let's just pretend that Lebron didn't choke altogether!!

hateraid

01-12-2016, 05:23 AM

We already know that Ray's shot was more impactful. The conversation expanded to what occurred prior to the shot! Try and keep up, I'm tired of piggybackin your ass.

Maybe you can pretend that rays shot didn't make up for Lebron's choke. Maybe you can pretend that Bron didn't shoot the ball prior to Bosh rebounding it and kicking it out to Ray. Hell, let's just pretend that Lebron didn't choke altogether!!

I think Lebron choked too. What does that have to do with Paxson making an incredible shot that wasn't set up by Jordan?
Again, you have no grasp of what I'm saying, do you? The Jordan blinders keep getting in the way.

Dr Hawk

01-12-2016, 05:25 AM

Ray's the most important shot in the history of the NBA and the sports

hateraid

01-12-2016, 05:27 AM

Ray's the most important shot in the history of the NBA and the sports
If Jordan hadn't played then that shot would have never happened. So credit Jordan for the shot. This is the logic of Straight Ballin. :lol

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 05:29 AM

I think Lebron choked too. What does that have to do with Paxson making an incredible shot that wasn't set up by Jordan?
Again, you have no grasp of what I'm saying, do you? The Jordan blinders keep getting in the way.

I never said the shot wasn't incredible. What I said is that the play was initiated by Jordan. Again, you have no grasp of what was originally stated.

SpaceJam

01-12-2016, 05:30 AM

hateraid

01-12-2016, 05:34 AM

I never said the shot wasn't incredible. What I said is that the play was initiated by Jordan. Again, you have no grasp of what was originally stated.
I do have a grasp. You're exaggerating any involvement of Jordan to Paxson's shot, which was insignificant. I didn't say you didn't think Paxson's shot was incredible. Again, you're lost. But keep trying to twist things. You still keep looking like a moron.

Dr Hawk

01-12-2016, 05:36 AM

If Jordan hadn't played then that shot would have never happened. So credit Jordan for the shot. This is the logic of Straight Ballin. :lol

What? I don't catch that logic

hateraid

01-12-2016, 05:38 AM

What? I don't catch that logic
He doesn't have logic. He attributes anything great that's happened in the NBA a credit to Jordan.

Dr Hawk

01-12-2016, 05:39 AM

He doesn't have logic. He attributes anything great that's happened in the NBA a credit to Jordan.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 05:41 AM

I do have a grasp. You're exaggerating any involvement of Jordan to Paxson's shot, which was insignificant. I didn't say you didn't think Paxson's shot was incredible. Again, you're lost. But keep trying to twist things. You still keep looking like a moron.

Nope, I said a crisp play was ran and it was initiated by MJ and I compared it to the play ending with a Ray Allen miracle shot that you agreed was the same play in which Lebron had choked. Any "twisting" has been all you.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 05:47 AM

Nope, I said a crisp play was ran and it was initiated by MJ and I compared it to the play ending with a Ray Allen miracle shot that you agreed was the same play in which Lebron had choked. Any "twisting" has been all you.

Jordan bringing up the ball was as insignificant to Paxson's shot as it gets. /thread. That's the point and nothing else. You crediting Jordan for Paxson's shot in order to down play Lebron is the stupidest opinion ever posted of Jordan. And I've been a member since the old board in 2002. But keep on bring up the insignificant Jordan initiating the play. We'll just praise Pippen the point forward God for initiating all Jordan's shots. Hail Pippen for executing all Bulls plays!

That was an exaggeration. You're too stupid to recognize one, since you do it all the time.

ArbitraryWater

01-12-2016, 05:48 AM

Ray's was more impressive, but Paxson's was more important and impactful. At least in my mind, 3-Peat>Repeat, Series Winner>Series Saver. If we're talking only insidehoops importance, then Ray-Ray's because people are idiots and use that incredible shot to either discredit or credit a superstar who's name I will not mention

How exactly was Paxson's shot more important? Under what definition?

Plus, the implications of the previous seasons are largely irrelevant concerning that one shot, especially since there's no major difference in the runs.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 05:55 AM

Jordan bringing up the ball was as insignificant to Paxson's shot as it gets. /thread. That's the point and nothing else. You crediting Jordan for Paxson's shot in order to down play Lebron is the stupidest opinion ever posted of Jordan. And I've been a member since the old board in 2002. But keep on bring up the insignificant Jordan initiating the play. We'll just praise Pippen the point forward God for initiating all Jordan's shots. Hail Pippen for executing all Bulls plays!

That was an exaggeration. You're too stupid to recognize one, since you do it all the time.

Lol @ this guy and his valient effort to suggest that my mentioning of Jordan initiating the play was used to down play Bron when all of ISH knows that Bron choked regardless and that Ray's shot saved the day despite Bron's choke!

hateraid

01-12-2016, 05:57 AM

Lol @ this guy and his valient effort to suggest that my mentioning of Jordan initiating the play was required to down play Bron when all of ISH knows that Bron choked regardless and that Ray's shot saved the day despite Bron's choke!

:oldlol: . Now he's back peddling. My god, please don't ever get married. Your husband will end up strangling you for being a scatter brain.

aj1987

01-12-2016, 06:03 AM

Straight_****** with his daily meltdown. :roll:

Why does anyone take that clown seriously?

sportjames23

01-12-2016, 06:07 AM

How exactly was Paxson's shot more important? Under what definition?

Plus, the implications of the previous seasons are largely irrelevant concerning that one shot, especially since there's no major difference in the runs.

It secured the first three-peat in the NBA since the 1960s. Ray Ray's shot was huge, but not important in an historic sense.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 06:09 AM

Straight_****** with his daily meltdown. :roll:

Why does anyone take that clown seriously?

He's claimed to have gone a whole day without sucking Jordan's d or hating on Lebron. Can this be confirmed or is he full of shit? I hardly believe he can carry an intellegent conversation without bringing up those two names

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 06:11 AM

:oldlol: . Now he's back peddling. My god, please don't ever get married. Your husband will end up strangling you for being a scatter brain.

I've seen it all now! A guy who mindfvcked himself trying to claim someone else is back peddling. Holy shit, this has to be an ISH first!

Quick Jeff, get your finger on the print screen button!

hateraid just made the front page!

I've honestly never seen someone mind fvck himself to the point where his valient effort of physco babble bullshit being thwarted is considered to be a "back peddle" by the person he is arguing against.

Someone get this guy a free inside hoops T-shirt already! :lol

BasedTom

01-12-2016, 06:13 AM

Ray Allen

I legitimately feel sorry for people who did not watch that game live.

bulls had a safety net+you could say jordan's legacy was already gold. compare that to the nba staffers visibly putting tape around the court to hand the spurs the trophy

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 06:15 AM

Ray Allen

I legitimately feel sorry for people who did not watch that game live.

Greatest finals shot of all time.
Choke preventer.
Saw it live but wasn't at the game.
What a time to be alive!

hateraid

01-12-2016, 06:16 AM

I've seen it all now! A guy who mindfvcked himself trying to claim someone else is back peddling. Holy shit, this has to be an ISH first!

Quick Jeff, get your finger on the print screen button!

hateraid just made the front page!

I've honestly never seen someone mind fvck himself to the point where his valient effort of physco babble bullshit being thwarted is considered to be a "back peddle" by the person he is arguing against.

Someone get this guy a free inside hoops T-shirt already! :lol

I did get my free t-shirt. I could put it on the front page too since Jeff one time ask me to blog. It would be a great story! How much of a scatter brain you are.
The fact is you are back peddling and are becoming more far out of touch with the point I was actually making. Jordan had an insignificant part towards Paxson's shot. Not try and reply relevant to that statement without back peddling and saying something about Lebron.

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 06:27 AM

I did get my free t-shirt. I could put it on the front page too since Jeff one time ask me to blog. It would be a great story! How much of a scatter brain you are.
The fact is you are back peddling and are becoming more far out of touch with the point I was actually making. Jordan had an insignificant part towards Paxson's shot. Not try and reply relevant to that statement without back peddling and saying something about Lebron.

No back peddling of any kind is taking place here. Jordan didn't impact the shot itself no, but he initiated the crisp play which entailed him getting the ball up court quickly to Pippen, who passed it to Grant and then back out to Paxson who was in position to make the shot.

In any case, that t-shirt is probably a bit worn out by now so we'll get you a new one.

By your logic, the clock started and the ball magically appeared into Paxson hands on the other side of the court without MJ even touching the ball on the entire play!

DaHeezy

01-12-2016, 06:28 AM

:oldlol: . Now he's back peddling. My god, please don't ever get married. Your husband will end up strangling you for being a scatter brain.
:roll:
Wow, I'm dying here!

aj1987

01-12-2016, 09:47 AM

He's claimed to have gone a whole day without sucking Jordan's d or hating on Lebron. Can this be confirmed or is he full of shit? I hardly believe he can carry an intellegent conversation without bringing up those two names
I doubt it. I thought LeBron stans and Kobe stans were insecure, but they're just trolls. MJ stans take the cake. Straight_******, sportjames23, 3ball, etc.. Just look up their post histories and it's like they just exist to hate on anyone and everyone who might post a "threat" to MJ.

diamenz

01-12-2016, 10:05 AM

how about we all stop arguing and just agree that phil jackson deserves the credit.

sdot_thadon

01-12-2016, 10:30 AM

Ray Allen without a shadow of doubt, biggest shot in finals history. He's misses the series is over, the tape was already around the court. Paxson's shot did secure a 3peat but it wasn't a do or die situation.

And by straight faggin's logic we should say lebron setup Allen's shot with a perfectly placed brick correct? Coming on ish makes me feel dirty to be an Mj fan at times.

Dragonyeuw

01-12-2016, 10:51 AM

Ray's is easily greater, not only in terms of difficulty but Miami loses if that shot doesn't go in. Paxson missing that shot in Phoenix, worst case, sends the series to a do or die game 7.

Mr. Jabbar

01-12-2016, 10:52 AM

Ray

fkn

Allen

pauk

01-12-2016, 10:54 AM

One was a gamewinner, gameover.... the other just sent it into over-time where Lebron finished it... Im going with Paxsons shot, but as far as meaning goes probably Rays, Spurs were absolutely devastated.

f0und

01-12-2016, 10:59 AM

allen's shot by far. i remember watching it live, and i had that sinking feeling that defeat was imminent and the series was over. they would need a miracle, then they got one. it saved bron's legacy. it was one of the greatest shots in finals history, but most people wont see it that way. they just see it as lebron having won 2 championships, and give him almost all the credit.

SsKSpurs21

01-12-2016, 10:59 AM

I still get chills when I see that Ray shot

i get tears... :cry:

feyki

01-12-2016, 11:11 AM

W/out Paxson's shot = Game 7

W/out Ray's shot = Spurs won

Answer is Ray's shot .

Elosha

01-12-2016, 11:56 AM

Ray's shot was greatest. You can't undersell how important it was, it was literally make it or lose the Finals.

Without getting too much into the argument what Jordan's "role" was in the play, it was a beautiful team effort and great ball movement. Jordan skillfully brought the ball up the court against KJ, went behind his back and then whipped a bullet pass to Pippen at the three point line. Pippen charged into the lane, then saw Grant had a better opening, and passed to him. Grant immediately kicked in back to Paxon who was wide open for a 3.

I'm sure Phil Jackson and his staff drew up this play with many options, including a possible pass back to Jordan for the final shot. It was a great play and you have to credit Jackson, et al, for that.

Contrast that to Gregg Popovich who made probably the most boneheaded decision by TWICE pulling Duncan out of the game when he could have gotten the rebound, and allowing the Heat to get two offensive rebounds and hit two three pointers, including Ray Allen's. Popovich is obviously an incredible all-time great coach, and I know he had his reasons for pulling Duncan (primarily concerns about free throws). But it was not the right decision, not the first time and certainly not the second time. Duncan would have given SA a much better chance at securing one or both of the rebounds, and just one of them would have secured the championship for the Spurs.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 11:59 AM

I doubt it. I thought LeBron stans and Kobe stans were insecure, but they're just trolls. MJ stans take the cake. Straight_******, sportjames23, 3ball, etc.. Just look up their post histories and it's like they just exist to hate on anyone and everyone who might post a "threat" to MJ.
Truth.
And this Straight_Suicidal fellow may just be the most persistent and ignorant of the bunch. Literally crediting Jordan for a shot that Paxson made. Lol. I've heard it all. He's a couple of posts away from ending his life, so I'll keep on getting the guy shook and do ISH a favor.

hateraid

01-12-2016, 12:04 PM

how about we all stop arguing and just agree that phil jackson deserves the credit.

Without getting too much into the argument what Jordan's "role" was in the play, it was a beautiful team effort and great ball movement. Jordan skillfully brought the ball up the court against KJ, went behind his back and then whipped a bullet pass to Pippen at the three point line. Pippen charged into the lane, then saw Grant had a better opening, and passed to him. Grant immediately kicked in back to Paxon who was wide open for a 3.*

I'm sure Phil Jackson and his staff drew up this play with many options, including a possible pass back to Jordan for the final shot. It was a great play and you have to credit Jackson, et al, for that.

I can live that and 100% agree. That's exactly what I've been arguing about and maintaining my stance. But ya boy seems to disagree and is making you Jordan guys look like shit heads. So unless he gets his head right I'll just keep on going and exposing him as a chump.

jlip

01-12-2016, 03:30 PM

In the "Lebron- centric" world of ISH, the Ray Allen 3 was more significant, but try telling Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, or any member of the '93 Suns who couldn't care less about Lebron's legacy, 2/6, 1/5, or any such message board idiocy, that the shot that extended someone else's title chances was more important or greater than the one that ended theirs.

Jameerthefear

01-12-2016, 06:33 PM

You ever watch that Suns team? Barkley was a fuggin BEAST that season and the Suns were an all-time great offense that the Bulls had trouble locking down, like trying to catch an eel with your hands. That team would run this current NBA.
If by "run the NBA" you mean 3rd or 4th team in the league then you're right.

Fire Colangelo

01-12-2016, 06:47 PM

If by "run the NBA" you mean 3rd or 4th team in the league then you're right.

Every good team in the past could run the current NBA, didn't you know? :rolleyes:

Overdrive

01-12-2016, 07:10 PM

Lebron is living rent free inside your head. I love to see your reactions when he wins his 3rd NBA title/Finals MVP this year. Cavs are on a roll. And they will be healthy in the playoffs.

All of your posts are Anti LeBron. You never contribute anything in this forum. And that's the reality of your posting career here.

You are probably a fat or skinny, lonely, person in real life. And not capable of having social interaction with another person.

Every year's the same with Lebron and his fans: Midseason "Watch out when Lebron makes/wins/gets x or y".

Ray's shot was the difference in winning or losing a series. He doesn't hit it the season's over. Paxson doesn't hit it? There's another chance another game.

houston

01-12-2016, 08:27 PM

ray allen wins by far

Straight_Ballin

01-12-2016, 10:58 PM

Ray's shot was greatest. You can't undersell how important it was, it was literally make it or lose the Finals.

Without getting too much into the argument what Jordan's "role" was in the play, it was a beautiful team effort and great ball movement. Jordan skillfully brought the ball up the court against KJ, went behind his back and then whipped a bullet pass to Pippen at the three point line. Pippen charged into the lane, then saw Grant had a better opening, and passed to him. Grant immediately kicked in back to Paxon who was wide open for a 3.

I'm sure Phil Jackson and his staff drew up this play with many options, including a possible pass back to Jordan for the final shot. It was a great play and you have to credit Jackson, et al, for that.

Exactly, MJ skillfully initiated the play. That's all that was ever stated but this hateraid guy originally thought that Jordan initiating a play is the same as getting credit for Paxson's shot. Good to see he's finally come to his senses and is in agreement with the above. I was worried about him for awhile. All that projecting about suicide watch. Poor guy is having himself a midlife crisis of epic proportions. I haven't had this much fun on ISH in awhile!:lol

sportjames23

01-12-2016, 11:04 PM

If by "run the NBA" you mean 3rd or 4th team in the league then you're right.

Kid, you just started watching the NBA when Lebron came on the scene. Take your ass to sleep.

sportjames23

01-12-2016, 11:04 PM

Every good team in the past could run the current NBA, didn't you know? :rolleyes:

You willing to follow Jameer's dumbass down that path?

Jameerthefear

01-12-2016, 11:06 PM

Kid, you just started watching the NBA when Lebron came on the scene. Take your ass to sleep.
Do you say anything worth reading? You don't even make arguments in your own threads. You just dismiss opinions that aren't your own and dick ride the people who support you, then log onto your Straight_Bullshit account to jack yourself off.

sportjames23

01-12-2016, 11:12 PM

Do you say anything worth reading? You don't even make arguments in your own threads. You just dismiss opinions that aren't your own and dick ride the people who support you, then log onto your Straight_Bullshit account to jack yourself off.

Oh sweet irony. This dumbass follows around the Lebron Fam talkin shit.

Do you add anything of substance to this site? Shut your monkey ass up and learn from your betters. Little bitches like you are the reason I don't waste time arguing with you shits. You twats ignore any facts presented to you. Why waste time arguing with trolls and idiots. Props to 3ball for spending his time trying to school you bitches.

Now, isn't it your bedtime? You got school tomorrow, young man.

Jameerthefear

01-12-2016, 11:20 PM

Oh sweet irony. This dumbass follows around the Lebron Fam talkin shit.

Do you add anything of substance to this site? Shut your monkey ass up and learn from your betters. Little bitches like you are the reason I don't waste time arguing with you shits. You twats ignore any facts presented to you. Why waste time arguing with trolls and idiots. Props to 3ball for spending his time trying to school you bitches.

Now, isn't it your bedtime? You got school tomorrow, young man.
How many times is your retarded ass gonna make the same joke?
"Hurr got school tomorrow? LOL!"
"Isn't it bedtime xD owned!"
You act like a ****ing 12 year old and I'm tired of making you look like a ****ing fool in your own threads.
You don't use facts, you don't use arguments, you're no better than the trolls you criticize, in fact you're worse. Get back to jerking off 3ball on both your alts you little bitch. Maybe one day you'll get a ****ing clue.

DaHeezy

01-13-2016, 12:41 AM

Do you say anything worth reading? You don't even make arguments in your own threads. You just dismiss opinions that aren't your own and dick ride the people who support you, then log onto your Straight_Bullshit account to jack yourself off.
He's that straight ballin guy? Wow. It does make clear sense though. That should be a bankable offense. Both are shitty posters. Mods, get on that

Straight_Ballin

01-13-2016, 12:50 AM

He's that straight ballin guy? Wow. It does make clear sense though. That should be a bankable offense. Both are shitty posters. Mods, get on that

Yes mods...please check the IP history using admin site tools and you will see that me and sportjames are different posters.

Also if you could post all of Dubeta's and Jameer's alts, that would be great!

Thanks!

hateraid

01-13-2016, 12:54 AM

Exactly, MJ skillfully initiated the play. That's all that was ever stated but this hateraid guy originally thought that Jordan initiating a play is the same as getting credit for Paxson's shot.

:wtf:
You have got to be shittin me. YOU have been the one crediting Jordan with the Paxson shot the whole time. Me and other posters like Elosha have been trying to set you straight about that whole play. Jordan was an insignificant part which could have been replaced by ANY other player, probably more effectively. YOU keep on insisting Jordan miraculously created that play. Did you somehow read all thing back and switch places with me?

Actually this has stopped being funny to the point that it's clear you are mentally deranged. Do your family a favor. ISH is not a healthy place for you. The suicide watch thing was a joke, but I think you actually logged off and really did call this hotline. Otherwise, I'll just keep trolling you and keep pushing you to the suicide level. At least I can get rid of two crappy posters with one stone.

Prime_Shaq

01-13-2016, 01:16 AM

i get tears... :cry:
I was fan of neither team, just a casual spectator. Can't imagine how hard it must've been for Spurs fans

hateraid

01-13-2016, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin

Lol your credibility was shot the moment you even questioned mine. Your only saving grace is the fact that the rep system is no longer active because of it was, I'd be in the green. Can't say the same for you.

:lol
This should pretty much /thread

I'll payback rep for anyone who helps bury this guy into deep red. His alt sportsjames23 too

Straight_Ballin

01-13-2016, 01:30 AM

:wtf:
You have got to be shittin me. YOU have been the one crediting Jordan with the Paxson shot the whole time. Me and other posters like Elosha have been trying to set you straight about that whole play. Jordan was an insignificant part which could have been replaced by ANY other player, probably more effectively. YOU keep on insisting Jordan miraculously created that play. Did you somehow read all thing back and switch places with me?

Actually this has stopped being funny to the point that it's clear you are mentally deranged. Do your family a favor. ISH is not a healthy place for you. The suicide watch thing was a joke, but I think you actually logged off and really did call this hotline. Otherwise, I'll just keep trolling you and keep pushing you to the suicide level. At least I can get rid of two crappy posters with one stone.

What are you rambling on about again? I'm crediting Jordan for initiating the play, not the shot itself. You are literally the only one on here making an outrageous claim that I somehow think MJ is solely responsible for Paxson making that shot. I honestly think you are trying to mindfvck yourself about this whole topic, due to your troll attempt backfire. Please seek some professional help soon! :lol

Straight_Ballin

01-13-2016, 01:32 AM

:lol
This should pretty much /thread

I'll payback rep for anyone who helps bury this guy into deep red. His alt sportsjames23 too

I'm living so rent free in this guys mind that I now have him quoting me in other threads and posting them in this one!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Bawkish

01-13-2016, 01:35 AM

:wtf:
You have got to be shittin me. YOU have been the one crediting Jordan with the Paxson shot the whole time. Me and other posters like Elosha have been trying to set you straight about that whole play. Jordan was an insignificant part which could have been replaced by ANY other player, probably more effectively. YOU keep on insisting Jordan miraculously created that play. Did you somehow read all thing back and switch places with me?

Actually this has stopped being funny to the point that it's clear you are mentally deranged. Do your family a favor. ISH is not a healthy place for you. The suicide watch thing was a joke, but I think you actually logged off and really did call this hotline. Otherwise, I'll just keep trolling you and keep pushing you to the suicide level. At least I can get rid of two crappy posters with one stone.

disagree on "insignificant part". MJ was the reason why Paxson was left open in the first place. Everyone in the building knows that MJ will take the last shot. Part of the reason MJ inbounded the ball because they anticipated that he will get doubled once he got the ball in play. So they gave it back to him and let him create. Once he crossed midcourt, the Suns were ready to trapped him and probably got surprised because he kicked the ball to Pip. The Suns scrambled for their man until the ball got to Paxson who was left open.

Prime_Shaq

01-13-2016, 01:38 AM

disagree on "insignificant part". MJ was the reason why Paxson was left open in the first place. Everyone in the building knows that MJ will take the last shot. Part of the reason MJ inbounded the ball because they anticipated that he will get doubled once he got the ball in play. So they gave it back to him and let him create. Once he crossed midcourt, the Suns were ready to trapped him and probably got surprised because he kicked the ball to Pip. The Suns scrambled for their man until the ball got to Paxson who was left open.
Agreed. Full credit to Paxson for the shot but MJ just being on court changes the opponent's entire defensive gameplan.

DaHeezy

01-13-2016, 01:41 AM

:lol
This should pretty much /thread

I'll payback rep for anyone who helps bury this guy into deep red. His alt sportsjames23 too
:lol
This should pretty much wrap it up. Face it straight ballin, you're taking a hard L for this one. I'd just walk away and start fresh somewhere else. Your credibility just blew up in you face with the post he quoted.

Jameerthefear

01-13-2016, 01:41 AM

He's that straight ballin guy? Wow. It does make clear sense though. That should be a bankable offense. Both are shitty posters. Mods, get on that
Yeah. Just watch when they get online. They're almost always online at the same time, sucking each other's *****.

sportjames23

01-13-2016, 01:42 AM

:lol
This should pretty much /thread

I'll payback rep for anyone who helps bury this guy into deep red. His alt sportsjames23 too

Damn, now I'M living rent free in your head, too. Move over, Straight, this nikka got extra rooms available in his head. :oldlol:

Dude accusing me of being an alt. LOL oh sweet irony. :lol

LBJFTW

01-13-2016, 01:43 AM

One shot secured a three-peat and the other saved the series. Which one was greater?

Pax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnAr4I3-Z48

Ray Ray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zYoE0OzoBU

Ray Ray's shot was greater for sure!

sportjames23

01-13-2016, 01:44 AM

Yeah. Just watch when they get online. They're almost always online at the same time, sucking each other's *****.

Says the ultimate **** smoker on this site. :lol

LBJFTW

01-13-2016, 01:47 AM

Gonna have to agree with MJ's impact on the Paxson's shot. Gotta give credit to MJ for executing that play perfectly. That pass to Pippen wasn't expected.

hateraid

01-13-2016, 01:50 AM

I'm living so rent free in this guys mind that I now have him quoting me in other threads and posting them in this one!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin

Lol your credibility was shot the moment you even questioned mine. Your only saving grace is the fact that the rep system is no longer active because of it was, I'd be in the green. Can't say the same for you.

^^ No coming back from that bro, you're done! Slit your wrists. buh-bye!

LBJFTW

01-13-2016, 01:56 AM

Hateraid looking pretty defeated in this thread given the fact that several posters agree that MJ impacted that play enabling Paxson to get that shot off.

hateraid

01-13-2016, 01:57 AM

Yeah. Just watch when they get online. They're almost always online at the same time, sucking each other's *****.
He lost all credibility. Look how he propped himself by claiming to be a respected poster before the reps came back on. That put that to rest :lol
Best thing to do is bury them in the red so they wear it clearly for people to see they are delusional halfwits.

This guy clearly has mental issues. Painfully obvious he has no social life. You can tell by how he over compensates by his clear anger issues and spouts off. Another telltale sign is the obsession to a pop culture figure. Normal people don't praise a person this much unless they were mentally unstable.