LeBron James

[Trollsmasher]

https://streamable.com/rwnh

chest to chest poster

[raprap]

2handed chest to chest jam. Call 3ball :bowdown:

[WayOfWade]

Crazy how he got such a wide open lane to the rim, but then again nothing LeBron does surprises me anymore, he's just that good

[VengefulAngel]

How an earth isn't that a foul?

[Trollsmasher]

How an earth isn't that a foul?
The Tough '10s

any other era and you get a whistle

[SpaceJammeR]

should've been a foul considering how they were calling the game.

[tmacattack33]

How an earth isn't that a foul?

Refs were probably looking up at the ball, not below.

[plowking]

I remember when I dunked on Devin Harris.

[3ball]

I remember when I dunked on Devin Harris.
It's amazing how today's fan can look at the wide open lane that occurs on every single play (which allows players to get full head of steam like it's transition), and compare it to the packed lanes of previous eras.

Previously, you were wondering why FG% wasn't higher in previous eras given that they were better midrange shooters... It's obvious - they obviously weren't taking as many at-rim shots.

Players can't run THROUGH defenders that are waiting in the lane - with everyone standing in the lane, the option to penetrate just wasn't there as much, which lowered their proportion of at-rim shots... That's part of the reason Jordan shot so many more jumpshots in 1997 and 1998 than ANY player today shoots.

Furthermore, the wide open lane setup seen in the Lebron gif didn't start in earnest until the 2011 Mavs showed the league how to properly space the floor - this is why Lebron's jumpshots declined in 2012 when Miami copied them (and ever since) - he doesn't have to take as many jumpshots with the lane more wide open.

Of course, in addition to a lower proportion of at-rim shots, the percentages at the rim were lower in previous eras, due to defenders being able to WAIT in the lane, as opposed to today's defender that must help from outside the lane (due to 3-point shooting and defensive 3).

[plowking]

You should help the high school and college posters on here write essays 3ball.

[Black and White]

Should have been and-1, clutch play by Bron :applause:

[tmacattack33]

It's amazing how today's fan can look at the wide open lane that occurs on every single play (which allows players to get full head of steam like it's transition), and compare it to the packed lanes of previous eras.

Previously, you were wondering why FG% wasn't higher in previous eras given that they were better midrange shooters... It's obvious - they obviously weren't taking as many at-rim shots.

Players can't run THROUGH defenders that are waiting in the lane - with everyone standing in the lane, the option to penetrate just wasn't there as much, which lowered their proportion of at-rim shots... That's part of the reason Jordan shot so many more jumpshots in 1997 and 1998 than ANY player today shoots.

Furthermore, the wide open lane setup seen in the Lebron gif didn't start in earnest until the 2011 Mavs showed the league how to properly space the floor - this is why Lebron's jumpshots declined in 2012 when Miami copied them (and ever since) - he doesn't have to take as many jumpshots with the lane more wide open.

Of course, in addition to a lower proportion of at-rim shots, the percentages at the rim were lower in previous eras, due to defenders being able to WAIT in the lane, as opposed to today's defender that must help from outside the lane (due to 3-point shooting and defensive 3).

Uh-oh, you done goofed 3Ball!

So you're saying that this new spaced out version of basketball has only been happening since 2011?

So then i guess Lebron's great 2009 season was not the result of this new spaced out version of basketball right?

[3ball]

You should help the high school and college posters on here write essays 3ball.
I do that for $300, regardless of length, with an A guaranteed or money back.. pm for details

[tmacattack33]

You should help the high school and college posters on here write essays 3ball.

:oldlol:

[3ball]

Uh-oh, you done goofed 3Ball!

So you're saying that this new spaced out version of basketball has only been happening since 2011?

So then i guess Lebron's great 2009 season was not the result of this new spaced out version of basketball right?
Not at all - spacing increased gradually as 3-point shooting increased.. Obviously, there was no spacing in the 80's when they barely took any threes, compared to 2009 when 19 threes per game were taken.

Regarding 2011 - that was the last year I watched the NBA.. The Mavs took floor-spacing to a new level by having shooters camp behind the 3-point line for entire possessions.. This created perpetual spacing and changed the game.. It no longer made sense to let players use their skill to score ON defenders, when open shots could be achieved on every play by moving the ball and scrambling the spaced-out defenders.

With offensive players only needing 3-pointers/layups/FT skill sets, the game has become impossible to watch.. A guy like Anthony Davis is assisted on 75% of his shots - this would never happen in the 80's, which means he wouldn't be a 20 ppg scorer.. I once said he'd be John Salley in the 80's, which might be taking it a little too far - but maybe not....

A lot of these guys like Danny Green and Anthony Morrow - they'd be playing in Europe in the 80's or 90's... There's also the flipside - various players have their game stifled by today's simple 3-and-D requirements and basic passing that the spacing allows - they'd be able to exhibit more skill in the 80's or 90's.

[SpaceJam]

I do that for $300, regardless of length, with an A guaranteed or money back.. pm for details

'I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man' -3ball

[Mr Feeny]

I do that for $300, regardless of length, with an A guaranteed or money back.. pm for details
I
That's not true. I called 3ball for help. He got me a B minus.
Asked for my money back on his "hotline". There was no answer. Called a milllion times.
Only guy in 8th grade who didn't get an A on our test.

[ISHGoat]

I
That's not true. I called 3ball for help. He got me a B minus.
Asked for my money back on his "hotline". There was no answer. Called a milllion times.
Only guy in 8th grade who didn't get an A on our test.

same here, except I only got a b+ on my grade 9 test

[Pushxx]

Regarding 2011 - that was the last year I watched the NBA..

I mean you gotta get over your obsession with MJ and live your life if you haven't watched the NBA in almost 5 years and you still post here...


Uh-oh, you done goofed 3Ball!

I gotta give you credit for actually reading 3ball's post. I thought everyone else already stopped reading them also.

[Mr Feeny]

same here, except I only got a b+ on my grade 9 test

Wait, we're you forced to listen to "Be like mike" when waiting for his service representatives, as well? :roll:

[SugarHill]

The Tough '10s

any other era and you get a whistle
:cheers:

[Funktion]

Must of found a new supplier.

[Lebron23]

I mean you gotta get over your obsession with MJ and live your life if you haven't watched the NBA in almost 5 years and you still post here...



I gotta give you credit for actually reading 3ball's post. I thought everyone else already stopped reading them also.


I agree. He sounds like a broken record.

[SavageMode]

Lebron James.

[Dresta]

Lucky he was met by a little guy there, because he can't really get up these days very much. That didn't look athletic at all.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

I do that for $300, regardless of length, with an A guaranteed or money back.. pm for details

when you try to make a joke but no one likes you so no one cares

[sdot_thadon]

I mean you gotta get over your obsession with MJ and live your life if you haven't watched the NBA in almost 5 years and you still post here...



I gotta give you credit for actually reading 3ball's post. I thought everyone else already stopped reading them also.
And amazingly probably more than 20,000 Posts since then still trying to argue the ins and outs of a game he doesn't even watch.

[Lebron23]

Everybody hate 3balls. This is the type of poster who don't even watch, or even play the game. He's a basketball stats nerd. And he also posted the same stuff over, and over again. He must be suffering from some kind of mental disorder.

[4 Inches]

The force of a big black man :bowdown:

[Gus Hemmingway]

Goat gunna goat :applause:

[ImKobe]

https://streamable.com/rwnh

chest to chest poster


you might want to look at that clip again.

[FultzNationRISE]

Hard af

[FultzNationRISE]

The Tough '10s

any other era and you get a whistle


Bingo.