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poido123
01-14-2016, 08:18 AM
Article in September:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/18/no-assimilation-needed-u-s-obama-tells-millions-migrants/




No wonder 100, 000 refugees have been pouring in each year and why wouldn't they?


They can bring their shit with them and not have a to change a thing.


Hilarious.



This Obama is fooling a lot of people. Get him out before he does anymore damage to the country.

Giaodollo
01-14-2016, 08:22 AM
Obama said he did not want people to change who they are, tell me what is wrong with that, please.

brownmamba00
01-14-2016, 08:25 AM
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NumberSix
01-14-2016, 08:28 AM
Well, that's the entire strategy of the left. They want people to be divided into defined identity groups. Well, every group except white people. They're supposed to be all individuals who have no allegience to each other while every other group need to be segregated democrat voting tribes.

Ncrazyballa
01-14-2016, 08:49 AM
another dumb bigot that thinks he knows anything about immigrants. immigrants dont have to "assimilate" with the culture nor is it natural for them to nor is it even real for them too. their kids however will be naturally assimilated to the culture. i swear the stupidity is unreal, it doesnt take much thinking to understand but some of you seem to lack that simple ability.

-nate

poido123
01-14-2016, 09:09 AM
another dumb bigot that thinks he knows anything about immigrants. immigrants dont have to "assimilate" with the culture nor is it natural for them to nor is it even real for them too. their kids however will be naturally assimilated to the culture. i swear the stupidity is unreal, it doesnt take much thinking to understand but some of you seem to lack that simple ability.

-nate



2nd and 3rd generation muslim migrants in Australia are far more violent than their parents and grandparents and I believe that holds true in England too.


Migrants out of North Africa and Middle East tend to keep their violent past and bring it with them. They don't assimilate, they simply look to change the country they're in and commit rape and violence.


You mean you don't see this?

DeuceWallaces
01-14-2016, 09:47 AM
Article in September:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/18/no-assimilation-needed-u-s-obama-tells-millions-migrants/




No wonder 100, 000 refugees have been pouring in each year and why wouldn't they?


They can bring their shit with them and not have a to change a thing.


Hilarious.



This Obama is fooling a lot of people. Get him out before he does anymore damage to the country.

You're an idiot; no one cares what you think about anything.

dunksby
01-14-2016, 10:20 AM
Integration is the most important factor, assimilation could be the ideal scenario but it's not possible in short-term and especially for generation immigrants. In case you don't know the difference between the two terms I will give you the definitions:
Assimilation: the process in which people of different cultural and ethnic background are absorbed into that of the dominant culture that exists in their society. It means from the food they eat to the religion they practice or even their names, it's an extreme form which can never be 100% achieved in my opinion. There are many examples of attempts at forced assimilation (Spanish Inquisition) but they mostly failed, although there have been a few instances of voluntary assimilation that you could consider as the best case scenario. However Integration is the process of people of different backgrounds begin to identify with the host society and relate to it as their own. To feel responsible for its shortcomings, its progress and their role in its destiny.
So if the host country manages to make the immigrants feel as a part of their new society they won't feel alienated and begin to call identify their new society as their own, hence making it difficult for external extremists to lure these immigrants into joining their cause against their own society.

ISHGoat
01-14-2016, 10:24 AM
Past a certain age, it becomes very difficult. I'd say that age is somewhere in the high school years-undergrad years. If you come here before highschool starts, going through Norh American highschool will be a good "assimilating" experience. If you come after college, there is pretty much no chance. Somewhere in between is where a line is drawn, and that mostly depends on the individual.

Dresta
01-14-2016, 10:30 AM
What do you expect from a long-time community organiser, who paid his dues in a corrupted and violent hell hole? Obama is just doing more of what is typical for him, what has become so habitual and effortless as to be second nature to him.

Sowing divisions and undermining the social fabric of the nation has been his MO for the past 30-odd years; it is the man's life - he knows nothing else. But one can't only be a hater: what he knows he does very well, that's for sure - it's just unfortunate he's so set on accelerating the process of cultural decay, as i don't think the man even acknowledges that culture exists, nor that it is fundamental to the survival of any non-totalitarian order. If people are not unified by common bonds and fellow-feeling, then they can only be held together by force, which tbh, is something that already happened in 1861 (a war that should really be called 'The War to establish a nation-state that didn't really exist heretofore' - there was nothing 'civil' about it).

But the spirit of understanding and compromise that survived from the Lincoln administration (that always acknowledged the untested nature of secession, its ambiguity, and that if positions were switched one could easily be on the other side), and limited the conquering tendencies of the Radical Republicans, actually helped to maintain some national unity, despite the folly and rapine of the Reconstruction era. I see this going by the wayside with a renewal of the Radical Republican mentality towards the South, which seeks to subjugate those with whom it disagrees, as all fanatics tend to do.

It wouldn't have worked then, and it won't work now, unless perhaps you flood these states with enough migrants to destroy their native culture. Maybe that's the plan?

poido123
01-14-2016, 10:41 PM
You're an idiot; no one cares what you think about anything.



That's a very liberal response.


How about I re arrange your face so that you don't have to look at the pathetic person you have become anymore?

Patrick Chewing
01-14-2016, 10:48 PM
Obama said he did not want people to change who they are, tell me what is wrong with that, please.


Without assimilation, empires fall.


No one is saying that you should forget your culture, but if you come to America, you should learn English, learn about American History, and pledge allegiance to the flag.

Nick Young
01-14-2016, 10:59 PM
If we actually vet them and allow the educated and rich Syrians in, like America usually does, it will be ok.

It's not going to be like Europe where every retard under the sun waltzes in through the borders and is welcomed with open arms. America doesn't have a cushy benefits system to fall back on. The refugees will be motivated to assimilate because of that.

Giaodollo
01-15-2016, 07:16 AM
Without assimilation, empires fall.


No one is saying that you should forget your culture, but if you come to America, you should learn English, learn about American History, and pledge allegiance to the flag.

And nowhere in that quote from Poido's link does it say they shouldn't assimilate.

HitandRun Reggie
01-15-2016, 10:12 AM
It's been already established Obama is a full blown retard. This is just another confirmation of it.

dunksby
01-15-2016, 10:22 AM
Without assimilation, empires fall.


No one is saying that you should forget your culture, but if you come to America, you should learn English, learn about American History, and pledge allegiance to the flag.
What you are purporting is integration not assimilation, refer to my earlier post for the definition of both terms.

poido123
01-15-2016, 06:39 PM
And nowhere in that quote from Poido's link does it say they shouldn't assimilate.

poido123
01-15-2016, 06:40 PM
What you are purporting is integration not assimilation, refer to my earlier post for the definition of both terms.


"Cultural assimilation is the process by which a person or a group's language and/or culture come to resemble those of another group"



:confusedshrug:


Chewing explains it there, I'm not sure what you're missing.

dunksby
01-16-2016, 04:14 AM
"Cultural assimilation is the process by which a person or a group's language and/or culture come to resemble those of another group"



:confusedshrug:


Chewing explains it there, I'm not sure what you're missing.

Integration is the most important factor, assimilation could be the ideal scenario but it's not possible in short-term and especially for generation immigrants. In case you don't know the difference between the two terms I will give you the definitions:
Assimilation: the process in which people of different cultural and ethnic background are absorbed into that of the dominant culture that exists in their society. It means from the food they eat to the religion they practice or even their names, it's an extreme form which can never be 100% achieved in my opinion. There are many examples of attempts at forced assimilation (Spanish Inquisition) but they mostly failed, although there have been a few instances of voluntary assimilation that you could consider as the best case scenario. However Integration is the process of people of different backgrounds begin to identify with the host society and relate to it as their own. To feel responsible for its shortcomings, its progress and their role in its destiny.
So if the host country manages to make the immigrants feel as a part of their new society they won't feel alienated and begin to call identify their new society as their own, hence making it difficult for external extremists to lure these immigrants into joining their cause against their own society.
There is a big difference between the two.