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ISHGoat
01-14-2016, 11:45 AM
Im joining a men's league of mostly corporate dudes, so I think the competition will be pretty soft. The competition will likely be similar to the average nba player in Wilt's era (no offense).

Heres my bio:

Im 24 and 6'0 in shoes with the same wingspan. I have a good vert and can get my whole hand over the rim. My game resembles a homeless man's Westbrook (but the real WB in the 60s). Im an acceptable 3pt shooter, good mid-range pullup off the bounce when defenders sag too much, but only a decent finisher since I usually drive in too fast and wild but without WB's length/airbourne agility to finish well. I get fouled a lot though, in pick up at least. My passing is good when I'm not tunnel visioning to the rim however I probably turn it over too much when I go to the paint and dont get an immediate easy layup. Man defense is excellent when focused.

What would be the best skills to work on (short-term) to dominate my league? League starts in about 2 weeks and goes for 10.

FTs?
Drawing fouls?
Endurance?
Dribbling?
Doing layups without getting stripped?
Developing go-to iso scoring moves?
Post up?

Dr Hawk
01-14-2016, 11:49 AM
I guess there will be some fat guys so work on your stamina and power to ****ING OWN THEM ALL

sd3035
01-14-2016, 11:49 AM
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Dr Hawk
01-14-2016, 11:50 AM
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ClipperRevival
01-14-2016, 11:51 AM
You're a guard so your handles should be great. If not, you should work on that.

Bball isn't a complicated sport. It all starts with the fundamentals. All that fancy stuff you see the NBA players do is a result of MASTERING the fundamentals first. Guys who try to be flashy without mastering the fundamentals are the guys who have games that are flawed. It takes time but the great thing about this game is you get out of it what you put into it. It's fair.

ISHGoat
01-14-2016, 11:55 AM
You're a guard so your handles should be great. If not, you should work on that.

Bball isn't a complicated sport. It all starts with the fundamentals. All that fancy stuff you see the NBA players do is a result of MASTERING the fundamentals first. Guys who try to be flashy without mastering the fundamentals are the guys who have games that are flawed. It takes time but the great thing about this game is you get out what of it what you put into it. It's fair.

Yeah, I think I've neglected my handles for a very long time. I worked on it when I was young but it kind of stayed at the same place or regressed. Im not super comfortable dropping dribbling moves/fakes/crossovers against my man. I was always trained to just rely on some simple hard moves (jab, jab crossover, and hard dribbling crossover) and my explosiveness to get past a guy; to not do fancy dribbling or dribble much at all.

I guess I'll go find some dribbling exercises to do in my condo's gym. The rim is a bit lower than regulation too so I don't think its the best idea to work on my J here anyways

DavisIsMyUniBro
01-14-2016, 11:57 AM
Im joining a men's league of mostly corporate dudes, so I think the competition will be pretty soft. The competition will likely be similar to the average nba player in Wilt's era (no offense).

Heres my bio:

Im 24 and 6'0 in shoes with the same wingspan. I have a good vert and can get my whole hand over the rim. My game resembles a homeless man's Westbrook (but the real WB in the 60s). Im an acceptable 3pt shooter, good mid-range pullup off the bounce when defenders sag too much, but only a decent finisher since I usually drive in too fast and wild but without WB's length/airbourne agility to finish well. I get fouled a lot though, in pick up at least. My passing is good when I'm not tunnel visioning to the rim however I probably turn it over too much when I go to the paint and dont get an immediate easy layup. Man defense is excellent when focused.

What would be the best skills to work on (short-term) to dominate my league? League starts in about 2 weeks and goes for 10.

FTs?
Drawing fouls?
Endurance?
Dribbling?
Doing layups without getting stripped?
Developing go-to iso scoring moves?
Post up?

well, other than the 60s bashing which isnt really fair at all.

Ill say a few things.

You need a full on Drill.

First, you need to show where you are at right now.

ball handling is important. can you do Curry's pregame drill? Not at the same speed, but can you do it? you are about average height at 6ft in shoes, with average wingspan, so dribbling will be important.

I recommend that you do this first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwWCxBAFAFg

after doing that

get two balls

do things like 30 repetitions of double front low crossovers, side crossovers, hi low dribbles, etc.

and then just practice regular crossovers and inside out moves while moving and not moving.

I cant practice because I cant get a proper basketball hoop. but definately do about 5-10 repetitions of every layup move you can think of, using a cone, visioning it as a defender, and doing some "dribble moves"

Here is honestly a general problem. People always ask, "what can I improve on first?"

This annoys me. I personally cannot really practice shooting and things like that, so all I can do is dribbling. (I started a few days ago and got pretty good results)

but overall, you should make a workout plan that will train everything you wish to learn. it will only take 1-2 hours a day.

ClipperRevival
01-14-2016, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I think I've neglected my handles for a very long time. I worked on it when I was young but it kind of stayed at the same place or regressed. Im not super comfortable dropping dribbling moves/fakes/crossovers against my man. I was always trained to just rely on some simple hard moves (jab, jab crossover, and hard dribbling crossover) and my explosiveness to get past a guy; to not do fancy dribbling or dribble much at all.

I guess I'll go find some dribbling exercises to do in my condo's gym. The rim is a bit lower than regulation too so I don't think its the best idea to work on my J here anyways

A skilled guard should be able to dribble with either hand, running at near full speed without looking down at the ball. If you can't do that, you have work to put in. It takes time but if you put in the work, you will see tangible results. Really a guard without solid handles is seriously lacking. You have to master that part to really go further.

90sgoat
01-14-2016, 12:04 PM
If you want to be effective in this kind of setting you should simply work on your stamina and fast breaks.

Most guys in rec games don't run fastbreaks full throttle. It's one of the easiest ways to set yourself apart.

I'm talking full on sprint like a lion was behind you every time your team gets a rebound, head down sprint - not run - full throttle until mid court, then look up and shout/scream for the ball. You'll get lots of points this way, but be sure your teammates understand to pass.

Also definitely work on ballhandling, I wasn't a very good ballhandler and would struggle against full court pressure. Then again, it is highly unlikely you will be full court pressured in such a league.

I'd also work heavily on hitting elbow jumpers, they're available galore with lax defense. Pick and roll, get open mid range.

DavisIsMyUniBro
01-14-2016, 12:05 PM
Oh, and make sure you have decent footwork.

I was watching this guy today, he was travelling so much and the ref didnt see so after yelling out, in a chris smoove tone "Why you playing hopscotch bruh" we just started pointing at him whenever he got the ball.

And make sure you hit it at the right basket. when everyone was subbed in (we were up 66-6, I was watching) the entire team forgot which basket they were in, so they literally started posting up on the wrong basket, and were protecting the ball while the other team was either laughing on the other side or just looking confused.

Minutes later, it happened again, after a timeout. the best part was that when he was open under our basket he missed the layup.

Prime_Shaq
01-14-2016, 12:06 PM
Just post up, it'll help you conserve energy as well.

ISHGoat
01-14-2016, 12:09 PM
A skilled guard should be able to dribble with either hand, running at near full speed without looking down at the ball. If you can't do that, you have work to put in. It takes time but if you put in the work, you will see tangible results. Really a guard without solid handles is seriously lacking. You have to master that part to really go further.

Oh yeah, I can do all of those without problem. I run the break, cross, and pass with either hand while looking up and finish well off the glass with spin with both hands too. When I drive my tunnel vision isnt on the ball, Im just finding myself focusing on the space I need to go to get past my defender.

ClipperRevival
01-14-2016, 12:10 PM
Also work on your triple threat stance. Practice going either way. You should stress quickness. Hard plants and explode. Quickness kills.

Bball is also a thinking man's game, you should always be reading and reacting to every situation. Sometimes the greatest plays in the world are the result of making the right bball decision. Change of speeds is always important. Never go one speed.

The more you put into the game, the more you will pick up on little things over the years that will help you become better. There is almost a limitless amount of things you can do to perfect your game. Ask MJ or Kobe if they will ever master the game and they will say no. You can never master everything but just try to get there.

stalkerforlife
01-14-2016, 12:12 PM
Try POF. (Plenty of fish)

Lots of singles in every area.

ClipperRevival
01-14-2016, 12:12 PM
Oh yeah, I can do all of those without problem. I run the break, cross, and pass with either hand while looking up and finish well off the glass with spin with both hands too. When I drive my tunnel vision isnt on the ball, Im just finding myself focusing on the space I need to go to get past my defender.

If you can do that, you're a pretty good ball handler. Most guys can't run full speed down the court and dribble with either hand without looking down at the ball.

Mass Debator
01-14-2016, 01:19 PM
1. Don't try to draw fouls cause they might not call shit
2. Develop a strong hand-checking game cause they might not call shit
3. Wear all the necessary gear to seem like a legit player
4. Slap the floor on D to call out and intimidate your guy
5. Yeah, work on endurance and your 3pt shot

And don't forget to celebrate.

Asukal
01-14-2016, 07:15 PM
You're not getting any better in just 2 weeks. You should work on your stamina to be able to play at least 30 minutes a game. Conditioning is your best option.

Rocketswin2013
01-14-2016, 07:21 PM
Avg height in your league? How are positions decided?

You sound like you're a true wing(SG/SF). What you work depends on the position/role. Sounds to me you can't go wrong with ball-handling drills. You can absolutely get better at that within this time. Or literally better every day.

outbreak
01-14-2016, 07:25 PM
You're not getting any better in just 2 weeks. You should work on your stamina to be able to play at least 30 minutes a game. Conditioning is your best option.
this. if it's as shit a competition as you described you will probably already outskill them and if you don't being fitter goes a long way against a bunch of office workers.

inclinerator
01-14-2016, 08:09 PM
pickert roll,

Marv_Albert
01-14-2016, 08:25 PM
Just crash the boards everytime, because by the sounds of it there's going to be alot of missed shots from these office workers

MP.Trey
01-14-2016, 08:34 PM
Practice your flopping, first and foremost.

FKAri
01-14-2016, 08:37 PM
short term? Endurance and general fitness. At least it made a big impact for me since I was always a high motor player naturally. If you're not in shape you have to pace yourself more and more until you're basically not playing any D and chucking long jumpers.

JEFFERSON MONEY
01-14-2016, 11:25 PM
Don't just work on your moves.

Bring your teammates up to a similar skill/feel for the game as well.