Greatest Laker Ever

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe Bryant Lakers Ranks

Seasons: 1st

Playoffs Seasons: 1st

All-Star Appearances: 1st

NBA First Team: 1st
NBA Defensive First Team: 1st

Games: 1st

Season Points: 1st
Playoff Points: 1st

Points in a Season: 1st (2,832)

Points in a Game: 1st (81)

Points in a Half: 1st (55)

Points in a Quarter: 1st (30) twice

60 Point Games: 1st (5)

50 Point Games(career): 1st (24)
50 Point Games(Season): 1st (10)
Consecutive 50 Point Games: 1st (4)

40 Point Games(career): 1st (121)

40 Point Games(Season): 1st (27)
Consecutive 40 Point Games: 1st (9)
Field Goals Made in a Quarter: 1st
Field Goals Made in a Half: 1st
Field Goals Made in a game: 1st

Free Throws: 1st

Free Throws(Consecutive Playoff Record): 1st

Steals: 1st

Steals(Half): 1st (6)

Steals(Quarter): 1st (3)

Minutes: 1st
Minutes(Playoffs): 1st

Most Points Scored in Christmas Games: 1st (All-Time)

Championships: 1st (Tied)
All-Star MVP's won: 1st (tied all time)

All-Star Points Scored(Career): 1st

3-Pointers Made in a Single Game: 1st

Only Laker(and Player) in NBA History to have over 30,000 Points and 6,000 Assists
On Pace to be the only Player and Laker in NBA History to have over 30,000 Points, 7,000 Rebounds and 6,000 Assists

Greatest Laker of All-Time: Kobe Bryant

:applause:

[G-Funk]

Enough said.

[Harison]

Magic
Kareem
Kobe

[G-Funk]

Magic has a case, Kareem does not

[outbreak]

Magic
Kareem
Kobe
Yeah id say this too

[Keno]

most of these aren't even that impressive. it's basically saying he's the 'greatest laker ever' because he's played the most games with the franchise. magic has accomplished more in much less time.

[Bankaii]

Magic (Top 3-5 GOAT) > Kobe (Top 8-10 GOAT).

Magic as a Laker > Kobe as a Laker.

It's not rocket science.

[Odinn]

If you rank Magic over Kobe in all-time list, you should rank as a Laker as well since both didn't play for a single different team.

1. Magic
2. Kobe
3. Kareem

[BuffaloBill]

Magic

[SexSymbol]

Kobe, better success than magic, better individual feats, much better defender

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Gotta roll with the Magic man.. no dice playa :pimp:

[Magic 32]

1. Magic
2. Kobe
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. West
6. Baylor
7. Wilt
8. Worthy
9. Pau
10. Chick

[Deuce Bigalow]

Both got 5 but Magic was more of a centerpiece for his championships than Kobe was. Let's not forget Magic had to retire at age 31! just coming off an All-NBA First team selection, 2nd in MVP voting, and a Finals appearance. Who knows how many more accolades he could've added.

[kennethgriffin]

then why is magic johnson always rated above him in all time lists


its obvious he had half the overall career and wasnt even 1/10th the defender or all around offensive player


it shouldnt even be close

[kennethgriffin]

Both got 5 but Magic was more of a centerpiece for his championships than Kobe was. Let's not forget Magic had to retire at age 31! just coming off an All-NBA First team selection, 2nd in MVP voting, and a Finals appearance. Who knows how many more accolades he could've added.


the 80s lakers had no real centerpiece


they had 5 hall of famers at a time



nixon and cooper will make the HOF some day i think


then its them

+ mcadoo

+ wilkes

+ worthy

oh yeah... and + kareem abdul jabbar




common

[Deuce Bigalow]

the 80s lakers had no real centerpiece


they had 5 hall of famers at a time



nixon and cooper will make the HOF some day i think


then its them

+ mcadoo

+ wilkes

+ worthy

oh yeah... and + kareem abdul jabbar




common
Magic ran the team though and KAJ dropped off after 1980, he was an old man when Magic was at his peak winning titles/MVPs/Finals MVPs. Kobe had Shaq at his peak for some years so cmon man..

[kennethgriffin]

Magic ran the team though and KAJ dropped off after 1980, he was an old man when Magic was at his peak winning titles/MVPs/Finals MVPs. Kobe had Shaq at his peak for some years so cmon man..


kareem dropped off from the greatest of all time to a regular hall of fame center


ok.. hes still a guy averaging 20.6 ppg from 1980-1989 with elite defense


and thats while having to share with 4 other hall of famers at a time. imagine if it was his own squad in the watered down 90s



and yes magic was the PG. but lets be serious

put any good point guard on the 80s lakers with kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes and theyre gona win some titles

[SouBeachTalents]

kareem dropped off from the greatest of all time to a regular hall of fame center


ok.. hes still a guy averaging 20.6 ppg from 1980-1989 with elite defense


and thats while having to share with 4 other hall of famers at a time. imagine if it was his own squad in the watered down 90s



and yes magic was the PG. but lets be serious

put any good point guard on the 80s lakers with kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes and theyre gona win some titles

Same argument could be made with Kobe during the early 2000's

[kennethgriffin]

how many titles does

stockton/kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes win?

or

kidd/kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes win?

or

nash/kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes win?

or

paul/kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes win?

or

payton/kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes win?

or

curry/kareem/nixon/cooper/worthy/mcadoo/wilkes win?




probly a good amount

[kennethgriffin]

Same argument could be made with Kobe during the early 2000's


actually i have a good argument against anyone just being able to step in and average 25-30ppg as a 2nd option and win multiple titles that way






its extremely difficult to blend 2 guys like that in a positive way. everything has to be perfect


kobe complimented shaq. kobe was able to hold off his ego for long enough to get the job done as a 2 man team without needing any top dog credit



put lebron in that situation. see what happens



god knows iverson or jordan would have ****ed it up



shaq wanted to be the man and take all the credit when another guy averaged 29/7/6 in a 15-1 playoff run

and he actually told kobe to his face... "you cant win without me"

so yeah. its a little rare. considering kobe and shaq are the only guys to do it

[Prime_Shaq]

Gotta go with either Kwame Brown or Smush Parker

[Dr Hawk]

Kobe has the longevity over Magic, but Magic has the PURE dominance fo the game. PURE DOMINANCE

[Kawhi]

Kobe has the longevity over Magic, but Magic has the PURE dominance fo the game. PURE DOMINANCE
Magic's longevity is underrated. No, he doesn't come close to Kareem, Karl Malone, Duncan, but it was a'ight. It wasn't anything like Showtime, but at the age of 36, after not playing for four years (and having to deal with players not wanting him to play because of the HIV virus), he still put up 15/6/7, playing more as a forward rather than at point guard. He had even developed a decent outside shot.

By the way, in his first game back he pulled out this on Sprewell, not the worst defender out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxIWuT-klrw

[ScalsFan21]

:lol

Yeah... Kobe is the second-greatest Laker of all-time since he spent his whole career there. Of course he isn't better than Shaq or Kareem as individual players, but strictly talking greatest Laker ever he has them both beat.

[Dr Hawk]

Magic's longevity is underrated. No, he doesn't come close to Kareem, Karl Malone, Duncan, but it was a'ight. It wasn't anything like Showtime, but at the age of 36, after not playing for four years (and having to deal with players not wanting him to play because of the HIV virus), he still put up 15/6/7, playing more as a forward rather than at point guard. He had even developed a decent outside shot.

By the way, in his first game back he pulled out this on Sprewell, not the worst defender out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxIWuT-klrw

Yeah he doesn't have bad longevity. 12 superstar years

[34-24 Footwork]

:lol

Yeah... Kobe is the second-greatest Laker of all-time since he spent his whole career there. Of course he isn't better than Shaq or Kareem as individual players, but strictly talking greatest Laker ever he has them both beat.

Lol @ Shaq being better than Kobe. No one outside of you and a couple of other fat people on this board believe that.

[kennethgriffin]

Yeah he doesn't have bad longevity. 12 superstar years


magic has 10 all nba teams, 9 first team

kobe has 15 all nba teams, 11 first team


i consider this the measurement of superstardom

[Dr Hawk]

magic has 10 all nba teams, 9 first team

kobe has 15 all nba teams, 11 first team


i consider this the measurement of superstardom

I don't, specially taking into account different eras and different positions

[feyki]

Very intelligence analytics :oldlol: .

Mikan
Magic
Kobe

..

[ShawkFactory]

Magic was a greater basketball player than Kobe.

BUT, Kobes longevity with the lakers absolutely gives him a case for best career.

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe is obviously the greatest Laker of all time and the 2nd best player of all time.

It's laughable when people rank Magic ahead of Kobe, considering they played for the same franchise and Kobe is the best player in the history of that franchise.

[kennethgriffin]

I don't, specially taking into account different eras and different positions


umm.. the 2000's had the most perimeter competition and they were both in the same guard voting pool

[fragokota]

1. Magic
2. Kobe
3. Kareem

[eeeeeebro]

but less points than jabar?

[Straight_Ballin]

Greatest Laker Ever

Wilt.

72 records.

http://www.nba.com/encyclopedia/wilts_records.html

/thread

[feyki]

In Kobe fanboys mind ;

http://d1udmfvw0p7cd2.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/p13-nba-report-a-20150121.jpg



As Real ;

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/1383-1/kobe-dunk.jpg

[La Frescobaldi]

1. magic
2. jabbar
3. logo
4. bryant.

[Dr Hawk]

In Kobe fanboys mind ;

http://d1udmfvw0p7cd2.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/p13-nba-report-a-20150121.jpg



As Real ;

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/1383-1/kobe-dunk.jpg

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[Goofsta Knicca]

Shaq big brother

Kobe little brother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqjbtZywfkc

[LAZERUSS]

Kobe has played 20 seasons with LA, which has to account for something.

1. Magic
2. Kobe
3. Kareem
4. West
5. Shaq

If you include West, the GM, then he would move to as high as 1.

[AirBonner]

1. Magic
2.Kareem
3. Shaq
4. West
5. Kobe

[imnew09]

Magic " Kobe is the greatest Laker player ever"

[AirBonner]

Magic " Kobe is the greatest Laker player ever"
Obviously he was being nice. Even an ugly girl gets compliments every now and then.

[Quickening]

1. Magic
2.Kareem
3. Shaq
4. West
5. Kobe

This...

[imnew09]

Obviously he was being nice. Even an ugly girl gets compliments every now and then.

yea from ugly guys like you

[AirBonner]

yea from ugly guys like you
At least I make people feel better about themselves :confusedshrug:

[fsvr54]

Mikan is getting flat out disrespected. No way Shaq or West should be ahead of him.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Magic.

[AirBonner]

Mikan is getting flat out disrespected. No way Shaq or West should be ahead of him.
Fixed*
1. Magic
2.Kareem
3. Mikan
4. Shaq
5. West
6. Kobe
:applause:

[feyki]

Mikan is getting flat out disrespected. No way Shaq or West should be ahead of him.

He's greatest LAker . Magic is clearly second best . And Kobe,West,Elgin,Shaq,Kareem,Wilt ..

[G-Funk]

yea from ugly guys like you
:cheers: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[smoovegittar]

Smush Parker! :applause: :bowdown:

[AirBonner]

:cheers: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Hilarious yes. if your sense of humor hasn't progressed past Chimpanzee

[Cold soul]

Magic and Kobe are 1.A and 1.B. I give Kobe the slight edge over Magic as the greatest Laker.

[HOoopCityJones]

I think this can't be understated.

The fact of the matter is Magic contracted the HIV virus, thus cutting his career short, just like Kobe was accused of rape and that was a distraction in the 04 season and destroyed an already tender relationship between he and Shaq.

Kobe's longevity shouldn't be dismissed just because Magic could've had a longer career, he didn't and some of Kobe's strengths are Magic's weaknesses and vice versa. I'm not saying it's a wash and depending on the day i'd say Magic is greatest myself. But it's closer than people think.

[senelcoolidge]

George Mikan...:facepalm . Why even have this thread.

[Deuce Bigalow]

magic has 10 all nba teams, 9 first team

kobe has 15 all nba teams, 11 first team


i consider this the measurement of superstardom
Like I mentioned before, Magic's last season (sans 95-96) in '91 he made the all-nba first team and was only 31 years old. You don't think he would not have made 2 more first teams at age 32 and 33? Which are still elite years for many alltime greats.

At age 31:

Kobe - 5 championships, 2 FMVPs, 1 MVP, 8 all nba first teams, 12 all nba teams total, 12 all star teams, top 5 in MVP voting 8x, top 3 in MVP voting 5x

Magic - 5 championships, 3 FMVPs, 3 MVPs, 9 all nba first teams, 10 all nba teams total, 12 all star teams, top 5 in MVP voting 9x, top 3 in MVP voting 9x

[TripleA]

Magic than Kobe

[d.bball.guy]

1. Magic
2. Kobe

Duh. Kobe's long career helped him get more of those accolades but in terms of leading LA, gotta go with Magic. And yeah it is closer than most people think but it still is clearly Magic.