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Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 11:47 AM
When we look at Jordan we see a man that averaged 30/7/6 on 50% against the Pistons in the 1988-1991 playoffs. He went up against Rodman and Dumars and the Jordan Rules.

How badly would Curry get shut down in those playoff games against the pistons? What would his numbers look like?

Please no "what the fvck you talking about man... ANYONE would be lost against them not named Jordan" type comments.

This is about how lost Curry would be.

Not Kobe, not Lebron, not Da Real Lambo... but Curry.

tontoz
01-16-2016, 11:49 AM
It is so easy to shut down a guy who can shoot from 30 feet off the dribble. He would be lucky to average 10 ppg.

Gus Hemmingway
01-16-2016, 11:51 AM
Lost without dray n klay



Ayeeeeeeeee

Sigmund Freud
01-16-2016, 11:52 AM
Your posts simply reek of insecurity, mein knabbe. Come into my office for further analysis.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 11:54 AM
It is so easy to shut down a guy who can shoot from 30 feet off the dribble. He would be lucky to average 10 ppg.

So Curry would be shooting 30 feet off the dribble against all-nba defense like Dumars and Rodman and against a "Curry Rules" type defense?

One hit in the lane in 88 that Jordan constantly absorbed and Curry would probably be injured for the entire playoffs.

sd3035
01-16-2016, 12:00 PM
Curry would average over 40 a game in that weak defensive era

Smoke117
01-16-2016, 12:03 PM
If we're talking purely defense...Riles Knicks teams were much better than the Pistons.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 12:04 PM
Curry would be lost against "curry rules"
One hit, he's out the entire series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2v0LOhjsJs

tontoz
01-16-2016, 12:07 PM
A guy with elite handles who is arguably the best shooter in history and has a quick release isn't going to be shut down by anyone. He might have a bad game here and there but nobody is shutting him down over a 7 game series.

jayfan
01-16-2016, 02:16 PM
A guy with elite handles who is arguably the best shooter in history and has a quick release isn't going to be shut down by anyone. He might have a bad game here and there but nobody is shutting him down over a 7 game series.

He didn't do much in the Finals, did he? Against what defenders? :confusedshrug:



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CelticBaller
01-16-2016, 02:21 PM
A guy with elite handles who is arguably the best shooter in history and has a quick release isn't going to be shut down by anyone. He might have a bad game here and there but nobody is shutting him down over a 7 game series.
Lmao dude shot below 45% against the ****ing cavs. Let's be real here

Quickening
01-16-2016, 02:23 PM
Curry would average over 40 a game in that weak defensive era

This.

Quickening
01-16-2016, 02:25 PM
Lmao dude shot below 45% against the ****ing cavs. Let's be real here

He shot an efg of 54 percent, the stat you use on people who shoot lots of threes... MJ averaged 51 percent efg for his career.

Currys a better shooter in a tougher era, he would rapein that chitty defence 80/90s

r0drig0lac
01-16-2016, 03:19 PM
he would suffer physically and would not finish this series healthy

Showtime80'
01-16-2016, 03:39 PM
Tougher era!?!? LOL!!! No hand checking, flagrant fouls and a 3 seconds in the paint rule to open up the lane even more for God's sake!

This is an era where James Harden, Russell Westbrook and Jimmy frigging Butler are stars and not to long ago Dwight "the most limited offensive center ever" was the best big man in the entire league!!!

The 1980's was a big man's physical league! A short soft jump shooting little chump like Curry wasn't winning anything in that era, just ask Michael Adams and Dale Ellis

ShawkFactory
01-16-2016, 03:39 PM
How lost would the Pistons be with a guy who can shoot and handle like curry?

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 03:42 PM
i'm an insecure stan
ok

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 03:46 PM
it amazes me that people think that the teams who rarely had to defend 3 pointers are better equipped/know how to defend them than the teams that play in an era where it's the most important shot

jongib369
01-16-2016, 03:54 PM
it amazes me that people think that the teams who rarely had to defend 3 pointers are better equipped/know how to defend them than the teams that play in an era where it's the most important shot
How many 3s would his coach allow him to take though? I don't think he'd be lost, hed still be great...But transported as is he might not be given the same greenlight, and would have to adjust. Or, maybe he'd change the way of thinking.

Fire Colangelo
01-16-2016, 03:57 PM
How many 3s would his coach allow him to take though? I don't think he'd be lost, hed still be great...But transported as is he might not be given the same greenlight, and would have to adjust. Or, maybe he'd change the way of thinking.

Can't think of it like that.

That's like saying KAJ wouldn't be as good in today's league because he'd change his way of thinking and work on his 3 point shot (exaggerating but you get the point) instead of his post moves.

Showtime80'
01-16-2016, 03:58 PM
It amazes me that people think that the 3 point shot was invented 2 years ago and it's shot in a 50 foot rock and jock basket!

You want to know why teams are taking a record number of 3's? THEY HAVE TOO! That's what the death of dominant post players has brought to the NBA!

Plus you can't touch these guys anymore, let's see Curry get those shots off against a prime Rodman or Cooper draped all over him for 48 minutes!

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 03:58 PM
How many 3s would his coach allow him to take though? I don't think he'd be lost, hed still be great...But transported as is he might not be given the same greenlight, and would have to adjust. Or, maybe he'd change the way of thinking.
that's just such a dumb argument that it isn't worth addressing

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 03:59 PM
It amazes me that people think that the 3 point shot was invented 2 years ago and it's shot in a 50 foot rock and jock basket!

You want to know why teams are taking a record number of 3's? THEY HAVE TOO! That's what the death of dominant post players has brought to the NBA!

Plus you can't touch these guys anymore, let's see Curry get those shots off against a prime Rodman or Cooper draped all over him for 48 minutes!
Or, because it's a more efficient shot! That MIGHT have something to do with it.

ShawkFactory
01-16-2016, 04:00 PM
How many 3s would his coach allow him to take though? I don't think he'd be lost, hed still be great...But transported as is he might not be given the same greenlight, and would have to adjust. Or, maybe he'd change the way of thinking.
Once he makes 4 in a row in 52 seconds I have a feeling coach would perhaps change his thoughts on the 3 ball when it comes to curry

jongib369
01-16-2016, 04:04 PM
that's just such a dumb argument that it isn't worth addressing
You're a moron if you think a coaches gameplan wouldn't have an impact, or the general style of play back then. I'm not arguing he wouldn't be as good, just posibly forced to take less of them. He would be/is a great shooter from anywhere so he wouldn't be impacted much. Did you miss the part where I said maybe he'd change the way of thinking? You have to remember these coaches grew up in a time where the 3 was thought of as a gimmick shot, but he's so good at it he could probably change the the mind of even the most stubborn coach

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 04:10 PM
You're a moron if you think a coaches gameplan wouldn't have an impact, or the general style of play back then. I'm not arguing he wouldn't be as good, just posibly forced to take less of them. He would be/is a great shooter from anywhere so he wouldn't be impacted much. Did you miss the part where I said maybe he'd change the way of thinking? You have to remember these coaches grew up in a time where the 3 was thought of as a gimmick shot, but he's so good at it he could probably change the the mind of even the most stubborn coach
the argument isn't that curry transported and growing up back then it's what he'd be if he just went back in time.
and who cares? there's not even a point of bringing that up. it's like saying what if hakeem grew up in today's era where guard play and 3 point shooting is encouraged instead of post play. it's just a dumb argument that doesn't fit anywhere.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 04:12 PM
Are we talking about the same Curry? I'm talking about Steph, not Seth.

Steph Curry had trouble with a backcourt of Delladova/Shumpert who weren't even allowed to touch him. Yet somehow he's going to magically score 40 points against all NBA first defensive team Rodman/Dumars who are hand-checking him and the rest of the pistons applying "Curry Rules" on him?!

GTFO. He'd be lost and no where near putting up 40 ppg :lol

Jordan in today's league facing what Curry faces is 40 ppg.

Quickening
01-16-2016, 04:19 PM
Are we talking about the same Curry? I'm talking about Steph, not Seth.

Steph Curry had trouble with a backcourt of Delladova/Shumpert who weren't even allowed to touch him. Yet somehow he's going to magically score 40 points against all NBA first defensive team Rodman/Dumars who are hand-checking him and the rest of the pistons applying "Curry Rules" on him?!

GTFO. He'd be lost and no where near putting up 40 ppg :lol

Jordan in today's league facing what Curry faces is 40 ppg.

And yet teams scored far more ppg in the 80s and 90s... but somehow all players ppg from today would drastically drop due to the "brutal" defences :lol :roll:

Oh and Curry shot 26 points on 55 percent efg... hardly stuggled

jongib369
01-16-2016, 04:19 PM
the argument isn't that curry transported and growing up back then it's what he'd be if he just went back in time.
and who cares? there's not even a point of bringing that up. it's like saying what if hakeem grew up in today's era where guard play and 3 point shooting is encouraged instead of post play. it's just a dumb argument that doesn't fit anywhere.
Work on your reading comprehension, or slow down before rushing to judgement. I specifically said transported back as is, not grown up back then.

And your argument wouldn't change Hakeems style of play at all. We'd know what he could do, because there a difference between bringing someone to the past, than the future. And if you make us forget about him, his style of play would still fit in with game plans just fine. Curry, unless the coach isn't dumb would adjust to him. I'm just bringing up the way of thinking back then from how I understand it....Which very well could be wrong. It toik a long time for the league to start taking as many 3s, even with excellent 3 point shooters back then.

But to repeat, Curry is so good the coach very well coul give him the same green light.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 04:22 PM
And yet teams scored far more ppg in the 80s and 90s... but somehow all players ppg from today would drastically drop due to the "brutal" defences :lol :roll:

Oh and Curry shot 26 points on 55 percent efg... hardly stuggled

I would hope that he would have 55 % efg against players who can't even touch him on defense.

Teams scored more ppg in the 80's and 90s because there were more shots being taken closer to the basket at higher efficiency!

Does anyone who tries to debate with me on here ever construct a post that doesn't prove my original point? :confusedshrug:

Quickening
01-16-2016, 04:24 PM
I would hope that he would have 55 % efg against players who can't even touch him on defense.

Teams scored more ppg in the 80's and 90s because there were more shots being taken closer to the basket at higher efficiency!

Does anyone who tries to debate with me on here ever construct a post that doesn't prove my original point? :confusedshrug:

:lol :roll:

Legitimate retard :lol :roll:

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 04:24 PM
Work on your reading comprehension, or slow down before rushing to judgement. I specifically said transported back as is, not grown up back then.

He posts 25 times a day on average. He doesn't know how to construct a post without saying the first thing on his mind. :lol

jongib369
01-16-2016, 04:31 PM
He posts 25 times a day on average. He doesn't know how to construct a post without saying the first thing on his mind. :lol

:lol

I'm not saying he's wrong, but rather dismissing Curry might not have the same greenlight completely is silly. The further back you go, the more likely it is he wouldn't. Unless it was the 30s, then he'd be taking 35+foot shots, as they did, while laughing his ass off lol

Clifton
01-16-2016, 04:33 PM
It depends what his team was like. Warriors have a wide-open offense that moves the ball well and everyone can hit the 3. It doesn't matter how your defense is: if there's nobody guarding the paint cause all 5 defenders are guarding the 3pt line, the layups is going to be just as wide open.

I would like to see How Curry would handle going from having Isaiah or Dumars on him to Rodman off the switch rather than the guys who switch on him now (DeAndre Jordan, Love, etc). But I'm inclined to think he would simply hit his screener for the hockey assist or Klay with a PG guarding him and it would look much the same as it does today.

Roughing up Curry has been tried, it doesn't keep him from scoring. And handchecking etc is irrelevant against the Warriors because they do most of their damage off the ball or after a screen.

Almost all of Curry's 3s are 25 feet out, with 2 guys trying to guard him, off the dribble, and he's fouled after the shot. What could the Bad Boys do that isn't already being done?

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 04:36 PM
Work on your reading comprehension, or slow down before rushing to judgement. I specifically said transported back as is, not grown up back then.

And your argument wouldn't change Hakeems style of play at all. We'd know what he could do, because there a difference between bringing someone to the past, than the future. And if you make us forget about him, his style of play would still fit in with game plans just fine. Curry, unless the coach isn't dumb would adjust to him. I'm just bringing up the way of thinking back then from how I understand it....Which very well could be wrong. It toik a long time for the league to start taking as many 3s, even with excellent 3 point shooters back then.

But to repeat, Curry is so good the coach very well coul give him the same green light.
this is quite honestly one of the dumbest things i have ever read.

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 04:37 PM
:lol

I'm not saying he's wrong, but rather dismissing Curry might not have the same greenlight completely is silly. The further back you go, the more likely it is he wouldn't. Unless it was the 30s, then he'd be taking 35+foot shots, as they did, while laughing his ass off lol
what kind of substance does your argument bring? "uhh they wouldn't let him take as many 3s cause his coach said" who gives two shits? what purpose does your post serve? nothing? okay.

tontoz
01-16-2016, 04:38 PM
Are we talking about the same Curry? I'm talking about Steph, not Seth.

Steph Curry had trouble with a backcourt of Delladova/Shumpert who weren't even allowed to touch him. Y.


Steph had so much trouble he averaged 26 ppg in the series, 10 pts more than anyone on the team, with a TS of 58%.

tontoz
01-16-2016, 04:41 PM
I would hope that he would have 55 % efg against players who can't even touch him on defense.

Teams scored more ppg in the 80's and 90s because there were more shots being taken closer to the basket at higher efficiency!

Does anyone who tries to debate with me on here ever construct a post that doesn't prove my original point? :confusedshrug:


And why were there more shots inside taken inside with higher efficiency given that the spacing was worse back then? After all there weren't as many guys taking 3.

LAKingKobe
01-16-2016, 04:48 PM
Like a previous guy said. You seem insecure about something. Resorting to talking about "curry rules" which is a part of basketball that is not even that relevant to the skill of a game.
Curry would average around 40-45. The guards back then were not as strong defensively as the ones these days. And that era is so weak.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 04:49 PM
Steph had so much trouble he averaged 26 ppg in the series, 10 pts more than anyone on the team, with a TS of 58%.

If you want to see how much trouble he really had, then take a look at games 1,3, and 5. Again, this is against a bench player who isn't used to playing major minutes who is not allowed to touch Curry without getting a foul.

Game 1 he shot 8-19, 42% clip
Game 3 he shot 8-17, 47% clip
Game 5 he shot 5-23, 21% clip

Now imagine Dumars/Thomas/Rodman on this guy being allowed to hand check him with Laimbeer knocking Curry on his ass every time he drives to the hoop. Curry would be absolutely LOST against the 88-91 pistons.

Quickening
01-16-2016, 04:50 PM
Is this the best you could come up with?

If you want to see how much trouble he really had, then take a look at games 1,3, and 5. Again, this is against a bench player who isn't used to playing major minutes who is not allowed to touch Curry without getting a foul.

Game 1 he shot 8-19, 42% clip
Game 3 he shot 8-17, 47% clip
Game 5 he shot 5-23, 21% clip

Now imagine Dumars/Thomas/Rodman on this guy being allowed to hand check him with Laimbeer knocking Curry on his ass every time he drives to the hoop. Curry would be absolutely LOST against the 88-91 pistons.

He would wreck them... they conceded more ppg than the cavs. :lol :roll:

tontoz
01-16-2016, 04:52 PM
For the record Tim Hardaway was drafted in 1989 and averaged 5 3 pt attempts for his career even though he shot them at 35.5%.

In 1990 Michael Adams took 5.5 3 pointers per game, Price took 5.1 and Reggie took 4.4. Lets not pretend like taking 3s was taboo back then.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 04:54 PM
Like a previous guy said. You seem insecure about something. Resorting to talking about "curry rules" which is a part of basketball that is not even that relevant to the skill of a game.
Curry would average around 40-45. The guards back then were not as strong defensively as the ones these days. And that era is so weak.

Wrong
See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8qhDXUD2Xc

ShawkFactory
01-16-2016, 04:55 PM
I would hope that he would have 55 % efg against players who can't even touch him on defense.

Teams scored more ppg in the 80's and 90s because there were more shots being taken closer to the basket at higher efficiency!

Does anyone who tries to debate with me on here ever construct a post that doesn't prove my original point? :confusedshrug:
Teams scored more in the 80s because more shots were taken per game.

Efficiency is higher now.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 04:57 PM
For the record Tim Hardaway was drafted in 1989 and averaged 5 3 pt attempts for his career even though he shot them at 35.5%.

In 1990 Michael Adams took 5.5 3 pointers per game, Price took 5.1 and Reggie took 4.4. Lets not pretend like taking 3s was taboo back then.

So then if Curry isn't going to be allowed to take as many 3's then that makes his overall average impact per possession even less, as 3>2!

Quickening
01-16-2016, 04:59 PM
So then if Curry isn't going to be allowed to take as many 3's then that makes his overall average impact per possession even less, as 3>2!

Nobody can be this stupid :lol :lol :oldlol:

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 05:01 PM
Nobody can be this stupid :lol :lol :oldlol:
think about how pathetic he is. he's a grown ass man who logs in every day to say some of the dumbest shit anyone has ever said on ISH.

jongib369
01-16-2016, 05:02 PM
For the record Tim Hardaway was drafted in 1989 and averaged 5 3 pt attempts for his career even though he shot them at 35.5%.

In 1990 Michael Adams took 5.5 3 pointers per game, Price took 5.1 and Reggie took 4.4. Lets not pretend like taking 3s was taboo back then.
Thanks for pointing that out, I was going to look up attempts once I got home

tontoz
01-16-2016, 05:02 PM
If you want to see how much trouble he really had, then take a look at games 1,3, and 5. Again, this is against a bench player who isn't used to playing major minutes who is not allowed to touch Curry without getting a foul.

Game 1 he shot 8-19, 42% clip
Game 3 he shot 8-17, 47% clip
Game 5 he shot 5-23, 21% clip

Now imagine Dumars/Thomas/Rodman on this guy being allowed to hand check him with Laimbeer knocking Curry on his ass every time he drives to the hoop. Curry would be absolutely LOST against the 88-91 pistons.


In Game 1 and Game 3 he shot 10-20.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201506040GSW.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201506040GSW.html

If they have a charity for people like you please let me know so i can donate.

jongib369
01-16-2016, 05:04 PM
what kind of substance does your argument bring? "uhh they wouldn't let him take as many 3s cause his coach said" who gives two shits? what purpose does your post serve? nothing? okay.
The fact you don't understand how this might impact his strstegy/output, even if slight, and how people defend him baffles me.

You're reacting to what I'm saying as if I think he'd be a scrub.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 05:07 PM
10 possessions:

Curry shoots 10 shots and 7 of them are 3 point shots. He makes 3/7 from three and 2/3 from inside the three. His total contribution to his teams score is 13 points in 10 shots.

Curry shoots 10 shots and all of them are 2 point shots. He makes 5/10, and his total contribution to his teams score is 10 points in 10 shots.

Both scenarios are 50% fg.

By not taking 3's, he is less effective per possession overall while shooting at the same clip!

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 05:14 PM
In Game 1 and Game 3 he shot 10-20.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201506040GSW.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201506040GSW.html

If they have a charity for people like you please let me know so i can donate.

Meant to say:

Game 2 he shot 5-23, 21% clip
Game 4 he shot 8-17, 47% clip
Game 6 he shot 8-19, 42% clip

Same numbers, just different games.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 05:15 PM
The fact you don't understand how this might impact his strstegy/output, even if slight, and how people defend him baffles me.

You're reacting to what I'm saying as if I think he'd be a scrub.

It's a amazing how a guy like Jameer can be on here so much that he posts 24 time a day yet can't grasp simple concepts such as this.

dhsilv
01-16-2016, 05:17 PM
So Curry would be shooting 30 feet off the dribble against all-nba defense like Dumars and Rodman and against a "Curry Rules" type defense?

One hit in the lane in 88 that Jordan constantly absorbed and Curry would probably be injured for the entire playoffs.

Who is Isiah guarding? If Dumars is on curry (not an issue for curry to score on him fyi) that means klay is guarded by thomas? I mean talk about a mismatch.

dhsilv
01-16-2016, 05:18 PM
If we're talking purely defense...Riles Knicks teams were much better than the Pistons.

That isn't even basketball that they were playing. That was horrible non basketball crap. They are why the nba had to change the rules as that was a lot of things but it wasn't basketball!

Jameerthefear
01-16-2016, 05:19 PM
The fact you don't understand how this might impact his strstegy/output, even if slight, and how people defend him baffles me.

You're reacting to what I'm saying as if I think he'd be a scrub.
i understand, but what the hell does it have to do with this argument, or really... anything? the fact is he grew up with the 3 point line, and is far and away the greatest shooter of all time. that's what we KNOW. the stupid hypothetical of "hurr hurr what about if he grew up back then" who cares? he didn't.

warriorfan
01-16-2016, 05:23 PM
How many 3s would his coach allow him to take though? I don't think he'd be lost, hed still be great...But transported as is he might not be given the same greenlight, and would have to adjust. Or, maybe he'd change the way of thinking.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25149489/look-stephen-curry-made-77-straight-threes-in-warriors-practice

I'm pretty sure after one practice with steph curry the coaches will make up a new strategy

aka get the hell out of the way and get curry the ball and let him do what he pleases

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 05:24 PM
Who is Isiah guarding? If Dumars is on curry (not an issue for curry to score on him fyi) that means klay is guarded by thomas? I mean talk about a mismatch.

So it was an issue for Curry to effectively score on a bench player Delly who's not used to playing that many minutes based on:

Game 2 he shot 5-23, 21% clip
Game 4 he shot 8-17, 47% clip
Game 6 he shot 8-19, 42% clip

who can't even touch him without getting a foul, but it's not going to be an issue for him to score against a superior defender like Dumars who's backed by a team that is incorporating "Jordan/Curry" rules on him? :lol

Sakkreth
01-16-2016, 05:31 PM
Injured in the first meeting and scared to play them again so acting as if still injured.

dhsilv
01-16-2016, 05:32 PM
So it was an issue for Curry to effectively score on a bench player Delly who's not used to playing that many minutes based on:

Game 2 he shot 5-23, 21% clip
Game 4 he shot 8-17, 47% clip
Game 6 he shot 8-19, 42% clip

who can't even touch him without getting a foul, but it's not going to be an issue for him to score against a superior defender like Dumars who's backed by a team that is incorporating "Jordan/Curry" rules on him? :lol

Small sample size. Curry had a few bad games because Curry had a few bad games. It happens. You seriously outside of maybe jordan, can't find any all time great player who didn't have some bad games.

The funny thing people seem to forget is that players today are bigger than they were in the past. For some stupid reason people think curry is a small guy, but by 80's and 90's standards he'd be well above average size for a point guard. Add in he has all time great ball handling ability, amazing body control, and unseen shooting....he'd do just fine in any era. Clearly his game would change. The "non basketball" play from the pistons would certainly result in him playing differently, but those pistons would adapt to today's game and learn how to use zone defense to guard players and still be an effective defense as well.

jstern
01-16-2016, 05:37 PM
The rules favored big men in that era. That would hurt curry or any PG. Not to say that he still wouldn't be a Super Star.

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 05:46 PM
Small sample size. Curry had a few bad games because Curry had a few bad games. It happens. You seriously outside of maybe jordan, can't find any all time great player who didn't have some bad games.

The funny thing people seem to forget is that players today are bigger than they were in the past. For some stupid reason people think curry is a small guy, but by 80's and 90's standards he'd be well above average size for a point guard. Add in he has all time great ball handling ability, amazing body control, and unseen shooting....he'd do just fine in any era. Clearly his game would change. The "non basketball" play from the pistons would certainly result in him playing differently, but those pistons would adapt to today's game and learn how to use zone defense to guard players and still be an effective defense as well.

You talk as if Delly is some big guy. I don't see how he's any bigger than the guys of the 80's/90's. A guy who wasn't even allowed to touch Curry caused him to put up those numbers in those 3 games, so just imagine what a guy like Dumars would do.

I'm using the data that we currently have which is only from one finals series because he's only played in one finals series. This isn't one bad shooting night. It's half of the finals games that he's played in so far. If you want to argue sample size, then that's fine. We can bump this thread again after his next finals or the one after that or how many ever you are comfortable with so that you can see that the type of defense being played in today's game caters to his strengths, whereas the type of defense allowed to be played on him in 88-91 would cause him to not be nearly as effective.

dhsilv
01-16-2016, 05:53 PM
You talk as if Delly is some big guy. I don't see how he's any bigger than the guys of the 80's/90's. A guy who wasn't even allowed to touch Curry caused him to put up those numbers in those 3 games, so just imagine what a guy like Dumars would do.

I'm using the data that we currently have which is only from one finals series because he's only played in one finals series. This isn't one bad shooting night. It's half of the finals games that he's played in so far. If you want to argue sample size, then that's fine. We can bump this thread again after his next finals or the one after that or how many ever you are comfortable with so that you can see that the type of defense being played in today's game caters to his strengths, whereas the type of defense allowed to be played on him in 88-91 would cause him to not be nearly as effective.

there's not enough evidence that delly was the reason curry had a few bad games. How are you missing that?

jongib369
01-16-2016, 06:08 PM
there's not enough evidence that delly was the reason curry had a few bad games. How are you missing that?
Agreed, though unlike Jameerthefear I think there's something to be said about style of play, and the talents back then that may, or may not guard him more effectively. BUT regardless of whether or not it'd have an impact, Curry could get his on anyone. It's basically impossible to stop such an offensive force, just ask Russell. You can only hope to put up speed bumps

Sarcastic
01-16-2016, 06:13 PM
He'd be relegated to spot shooter in the corner.

Would love to see Curry against the Curry Rules.

tontoz
01-16-2016, 06:22 PM
He didn't do much in the Finals, did he? Against what defenders? :confusedshrug:



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Yeah he only averaged 26/6/5 with a TS of 58%. He scored 10 more ppg than anyone on his team.

tontoz
01-16-2016, 06:27 PM
Meant to say:

Game 2 he shot 5-23, 21% clip
Game 4 he shot 8-17, 47% clip
Game 6 he shot 8-19, 42% clip

Same numbers, just different games.

The series was less than a year ago. Did you really not remember that Curry struggled in an early game?

But lets take a closer look at those games.

Game 2 was legit bad.
Game 4 he made 4 3s and had a TS of 55.6%
Game 6 he made 6 foul shots, 3 3s and had a TS of 61.5%.

He sure did struggle. :rolleyes:

FG% is a worthless stat for any player that shoots 3s.

tontoz
01-16-2016, 06:34 PM
Math lesson for all you simpletons still using FG%

Player A takes 10 shots, all 2s and makes 5 of them.

Player B takes 10 shots, all 3s and makes 4 of them.

Player A scores 10 pts with a FG% of 50%.

Player B scores 12 pts with a FG% of 40%

So player B scores 2 more points but his FG% is 10% worse. Obviously it is a crap stat. Is this really so hard to understand?


Lmao dude shot below 45% against the ****ing cavs. Let's be real here

Straight_Ballin
01-16-2016, 06:37 PM
The series was less than a year ago. Did you really not remember that Curry struggled in an early game?

But lets take a closer look at those games.

Game 2 was legit bad.
Game 4 he made 4 3s and had a TS of 55.6%
Game 6 he made 6 foul shots, 3 3s and had a TS of 61.5%.

He sure did struggle. :rolleyes:

FG% is a worthless stat for any player that shoots 3s.

He struggled enough that he didn't win FMVP. Just face it, the guy put up those kinds of games against a bench player who if he blew on him would be called for a foul, and if you were to place him against the 88-91 pistons, he would struggle just like anyone else not named MJ.

tontoz
01-16-2016, 06:44 PM
He struggled enough that he didn't win FMVP. Just face it, the guy put up those kinds of games against a bench player who if he blew on him would be called for a foul, and if you were to place him against the 88-91 pistons, he would struggle just like anyone else not named MJ.


He didn't win FMVP so that means struggled to score?






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NBAplayoffs2001
01-16-2016, 07:22 PM
When we look at Jordan we see a man that averaged 30/7/6 on 50% against the Pistons in the 1988-1991 playoffs. He went up against Rodman and Dumars and the Jordan Rules.

How badly would Curry get shut down in those playoff games against the pistons? What would his numbers look like?

Please no "what the fvck you talking about man... ANYONE would be lost against them not named Jordan" type comments.

This is about how lost Curry would be.

Not Kobe, not Lebron, not Da Real Lambo... but Curry.
... Is that you 3ball?

livinglegend
01-16-2016, 07:24 PM
1-9

dhsilv
01-16-2016, 08:14 PM
He struggled enough that he didn't win FMVP. Just face it, the guy put up those kinds of games against a bench player who if he blew on him would be called for a foul, and if you were to place him against the 88-91 pistons, he would struggle just like anyone else not named MJ.

We're talking about the pistons that gave up 30 point games to Sam Vincent, Jeff Malone, and Doc Rivers right?

deja vu
01-16-2016, 09:54 PM
Curry would average over 40 a game in that weak defensive era
Stop talking shit. Handchecking will make Curry struggle to put up 30 much less 40.

sd3035
01-16-2016, 10:05 PM
Stop talking shit. Handchecking will make Curry struggle to put up 30 much less 40.

He gets handchecked more than Jordan ever did

inclinerator
01-16-2016, 10:05 PM
steph would definetly struggle,he might score the same but efficiency would drop

houston
01-17-2016, 12:11 AM
A guy with elite handles who is arguably the best shooter in history and has a quick release isn't going to be shut down by anyone. He might have a bad game here and there but nobody is shutting him down over a 7 game series.


yup co sign

diamenz
01-17-2016, 01:20 AM
curry would absoltyely kill them from three point range, but he'd get bruised and battered in the paint. it would probably just end up evening out.