Is Kyrie Irving the least hated guy on ISH?

[Gus Hemmingway]

His talents seem to go much appreciated on ISH

Many non Cavs fans seem to like the guy on/off court

Would you take Kyrie on your team in a blink of an eye?

[Orlando Magic]

His talents seem to go much appreciated on ISH

Many non Cavs fans seem to like the guy on/off court

Would you take Kyrie on your team in a blink of an eye?

Might be up there.

His game is extremely aesthetically pleasing, he can get his own shot, his game is fairly efficient and he's fairly humble overall by nba standards compared to guys like lebron with chosen 1 tattooed on his back and baby faced Curry running up and down the court celebrating like a ****ing buffoon.

There's nothing really to hate on right now.

[Orlando Magic]

One more BIG factor in his favor is the fact that he has no irrational fanboys. There's nobody really irrationally trying to prop him up no matter what... guys like lebron, curry and Kobe have those fanboys. This might be the biggest factor, in retrospect.

Those 3 aforementioned guys get a lot of hate because of people trying to force their opinions on others in the loudest and most annoying way possible.

[Dr. Ice]

He's hated by all people who sided with the john wall faction in the wall vs. irving debates.

The least hated player on ish is probably paul millsap or kawhi leonard.

[Haymaker]

Might be up there.

His game is extremely aesthetically pleasing, he can get his own shot, his game is fairly efficient and he's fairly humble overall by nba standards compared to guys like lebron with chosen 1 tattooed on his back and baby faced Curry running up and down the court celebrating like a ****ing buffoon.

There's nothing really to hate on right now.

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[JohnMax]

The least hated player on ish is probably paul millsap or kawhi leonard.


Paul George fans hate Kawhi.

[no pun intended]

I think Khris Middleton is the least hated guy on ISH.

[34-24 Footwork]

Wow....a decent thread by you?


I agree with the premises of him being the "most liked", but I do think he's one injury away (specifically in the midst of the playoffs) from being criticized/judged VERY harshly for being fragile. If he misses a pivotal playoff series this year, his fans may do a 180.

Other than that, him, Curry and Westbrook remain the most exciting players to watch all for different reasons.

[sd3035]

One of the four current players I like to watch play basketball :applause:

[AnaheimLakers24]

Cant hate on a guy whos giving the city of cleveland its only chance at a championship.

op is a fuc.ken loser who gets no pu.ssy

[ISHGoat]

I think Kristaps is the least hated well-known player

[Dr Hawk]

Wait till June

[ScalsFan21]

I think Kristaps is the least hated well-known player

Give him time. Certain Knicks fans could make Mother Teresa unlikable if she was on their team.

[r0drig0lac]

Might be up there.

His game is extremely aesthetically pleasing, he can get his own shot, his game is fairly efficient and he's fairly humble overall by nba standards compared to guys like lebron with chosen 1 tattooed on his back and baby faced Curry running up and down the court celebrating like a ****ing buffoon.

There's nothing really to hate on right now.
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[T_L_P]

Might be up there.

His game is extremely aesthetically pleasing, he can get his own shot, his game is fairly efficient and he's fairly humble overall by nba standards compared to guys like lebron with chosen 1 tattooed on his back and baby faced Curry running up and down the court celebrating like a ****ing buffoon.

There's nothing really to hate on right now.

Yep. He's right up there with my favourite non-Spurs.

He's also pretty funny. Those Uncle Drew commercials are great. :oldlol:

[MP.Trey]

Only because he's LeBron's sidekick and people love to pretend his sidekicks are better than he is. Kyrie was getting so much hate before LeBron came, people were calling him an overrated chucker cause he couldn't make the playoffs with Dion Waiters, TT & Varejao.

It's good to see him get the props he deserves because he's always been on of the most skilled and fun to watch players in the league, but a lot of it is for the wrong reason.

[FatComputerNerd]

He's fun to watch because he has the handles of AI, but is a lights-out shooter. We're talking 50/40/90 class shooter. Whether he's done it for a season or not, he is in that class.

He also happens to be uber-clutch which adds to his like-ability.

[Akrazotile]

I think Kristaps is the least hated well-known player


Let's be honest. A lot of black people low-key hate him.

[KiiiiNG]

Still haven't forgiven him for letting Duke get blown out by Arizona in the sweet 16

He's a loser in my book

[pegasus]

He's super fun to watch. Abundance of flash with just as much substance. Can't hate on that.

[stalkerforlife]

Best PG in the east and tied with Paul for 2nd in the world.

[TheImmortal]

He's fun to watch because he has the handles of AI, but is a lights-out shooter. We're talking 50/40/90 class shooter. Whether he's done it for a season or not, he is in that class.

He also happens to be uber-clutch which adds to his like-ability.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Truth.

[Straight_Ballin]

Only because he's LeBron's sidekick and people love to pretend his sidekicks are better than he is. Kyrie was getting so much hate before LeBron came, people were calling him an overrated chucker cause he couldn't make the playoffs with Dion Waiters, TT & Varejao.

It's good to see him get the props he deserves because he's always been on of the most skilled and fun to watch players in the league, but a lot of it is for the wrong reason.

Seriously how privileged is Lebron for being able to play with a humble guy like Kyrie? He really should take a page out of Kyrie's book on how the hell you should handle being an NBA player.

Don't do stupid shit like:

The Decision
Chosen One tats
Let your mom fvck losers like Da Real Lambo
The Collusion
Let role players earn their FMVP by shutting you down
Say not one, not two, not three, not four.....

Just perform to your level in the finals and STFU so that the fans who pay you to play can be entertained. Don't do the stupid shit above and then wonder why no one likes you as much as they do other past time greats.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Hopefully he can get finals mvp this year

[RedBlackAttack]

Only because he's LeBron's sidekick and people love to pretend his sidekicks are better than he is. Kyrie was getting so much hate before LeBron came, people were calling him an overrated chucker cause he couldn't make the playoffs with Dion Waiters, TT & Varejao.

It's good to see him get the props he deserves because he's always been on of the most skilled and fun to watch players in the league, but a lot of it is for the wrong reason.
That is being kind. lol

Waiters and TT were a staple of those teams, but Varejao only lasted about 20-25 games a season in those lost years.

In 2013-14, the season before LeBron came back, this is what the starting lineup looked like in the season opener:

PG - Kyrie Irving
SG - Dion Waiters
SF - Earl Clark
PF - Tristan Thompson
C - Anderson Varejao

This is what it looked like in the season finale:

PG - Kyrie Irving
SG - Dion Waiters
SF - Alonzo Gee
PF - Tristan Thompson
C - Spencer Hawes


....and Kyrie was getting absolutely skewered for not leading that group to more than 33 wins at 22-years-old. :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

Let's be honest. A lot of black people low-key hate him.
uh... what? :oldlol:

[Straight_Ballin]

....and Kyrie was getting absolutely skewered for not leading that group to more than 33 wins at 22-years-old. :oldlol:

Might have something to do with Clevelanders not winning shit for 50+ years and when they finally get someone again that is a good player at 22 years old, they expect the world. I hope that Cleveland Clinic opens up another mental health wing because after this year when bron goes 2/7, that place is going to be filled up by people who went into it with unrealistic expectations.

Cleveland will never win another title in any sport unless a man named Jim Brown is playing and most Clevelanders have come to terms with that.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Might have something to do with Clevelanders not winning shit for 50+ years and when they finally get someone again that is a good player at 22 years old, they expect the world. I hope that Cleveland Clinic opens up another mental health wing because after this year when bron goes 2/7, that place is going to be filled up by people who went into it with unrealistic expectations.

Cleveland will never win another title in any sport unless a man named Jim Brown is playing and most Clevelanders have come to terms with that.
The way you type comes off sounding really upset and desperate. Like u were raped in Cleveland and your rants on ISH is your vengeance. just FYI


Btw, what city u from, teams u root for? Or do you just watch Jordan VHS tapes all day?

[Naero]

He satisfies the expectations Cavaliers fans hold for him as a potential championship-contributor, doesn't perform out-of-the-pack insofar as to threaten LeBron stans when it pertains to the perspective on the team-leader, he isn't the most daunting Cavaliers player when it pertains to crossroads with other teams' championship aspirations, he is aesthetically appealing to watch play, and he has no major blemish on his PR profile.

He's one of the least-detested superstars (if you want to bracket him as one already) simply because he isn't bound to jeopardize or offend the collective agendas fans have at this time.

[Spurs m8]

Have Cavs fans become the most stupid in the league?

**** kyrie and **** OP.

Both f@ggots

[Dr Hawk]

Best PG in the east and tied with Paul for 2nd in the world.

What the actual **** are you saying

[SexSymbol]

His game is way too pleasing aesthetically to hate him for it.

But he should get the drose jokes of being injured all the time, and he's a horrible defender

[RedBlackAttack]

His game is way too pleasing aesthetically to hate him for it.

But he should get the drose jokes of being injured all the time, and he's a horrible defender
Not really.

Even with his breaking of the kneecap, an injury that had Blake Griffin sitting out an entire calendar year, Irving has played in 170 of 214 potential games since 2013. So, he has missed 44 games in that span. And, Kyrie was 4th in the entire NBA in minutes per game last season.

Derrick Rose missed 33 games last year alone and played in a grand total of 10 games the previous two seasons.

Hell, Russell Westbrook has missed way more games the last two-and-a-half years than Kyrie.

So, there's that.

[Black and White]

I think any team outside of the Warriors and Clippers would want Kyrie on their team, I would love him on the C's, best handles in the league hands down.

[d.bball.guy]

I posted during his rookie year that he's my fave player that wasn't a Laker. He still is. :pimp:

[Uncle Drew]

Kyrie had to deal with a lot of shit before LeBron. I remember how several of us Cavs fans would rather build around Dion Waiters. And he had to take all the blame for us not making the playoffs in 2013 - 14 without any decent vets on the squad.

[KiiiiNG]

Not really.

Even with his breaking of the kneecap, an injury that had Blake Griffin sitting out an entire calendar year, Irving has played in 170 of 214 potential games since 2013. So, he has missed 44 games in that span. And, Kyrie was 4th in the entire NBA in minutes per game last season.

Derrick Rose missed 33 games last year alone and played in a grand total of 10 games the previous two seasons.

Hell, Russell Westbrook has missed way more games the last two-and-a-half years than Kyrie.

So, there's that.
Irving's 22 and has history of injuries since High School

By 22 Westbrook hadn't missed a single practice or game in his life

[Straight_Ballin]

The way you type comes off sounding really upset and desperate. Like u were raped in Cleveland and your rants on ISH is your vengeance. just FYI


Btw, what city u from, teams u root for? Or do you just watch Jordan VHS tapes all day?

You sound like someone that had to listen to his grandfather bitch all day about Cleveland not winning anything since Jim Brown. Why would I watch Jordan VHS tapes when I already watched him play live? It's the kids who feel insecure because everyone tell you that you only have your inferior era. Current gen has to constantly watch youtube vids of MJ and 80's/90's games all day long just to feel accepted in the basketball fan community. It would be one thing if top 10 all time players like Magic, Bird, MJ, Hakeem didn't exist in the 80's/90's but that is not the case.

[RedBlackAttack]

Irving's 22 and has history of injuries since High School

By 22 Westbrook hadn't missed a single practice or game in his life

I don't know what that has to do with Westbrook missing more games the last two years and, more importantly, has suffered more serious injuries than Irving. Kyrie has never suffered cartilage or ligament damage in his basketball life.

That's not really even the point, because neither Irving nor Westbrook belong in a conversation with Derrick Rose when talking about injuries. I was making a broader point about people's perception of players and the reality.

Rose has missed 103 games since the start of the 2013-14. Westbrook has missed 51 games in the same span and Irving has missed 44.

So, Rose is on a completely different level... and he missed the entire 2012-13 season, as well. Comparing either Westbrook or Irving to that is asinine.

[Gus Hemmingway]

You sound like someone that had to listen to his grandfather bitch all day about Cleveland not winning anything since Jim Brown. Why would I watch Jordan VHS tapes when I already watched him play live? It's the kids who feel insecure because everyone tell you that you only have your inferior era. Current gen has to constantly watch youtube vids of MJ and 80's/90's games all day long just to feel accepted in the basketball fan community. It would be one thing if top 10 all time players like Magic, Bird, MJ, Hakeem didn't exist in the 80's/90's but that is not the case.

Didn't answer my question, just rambled

what city u from? Teams u root for?


I'll wait

[BasedTom]

**** kyrie

him in the asg over like 5 more deserving pgs is a joke

[KiiiiNG]

I don't know what that has to do with Westbrook missing more games the last two years and, more importantly, has suffered more serious injuries than Irving. Kyrie has never suffered cartilage or ligament damage in his basketball life.

That's not really even the point, because neither Irving nor Westbrook belong in a conversation with Derrick Rose when talking about injuries. I was making a broader point about people's perception of players and the reality.

Rose has missed 103 games since the start of the 2013-14. Westbrook has missed 51 games in the same span and Irving has missed 44.

So, Rose is on a completely different level... and he missed the entire 2012-13 season, as well. Comparing either Westbrook or Irving to that is asinine.
Bringing up Westbrook makes no sense because he's played thousands more minutes than Irving.

Same with Rose, who by 22 was also healthy

And I don't see what you get out of comparing Irving to one of the most injury prone betas in the league anyway. So because he's missed less games than Rose that somehow erases all the injuries he's faced at every level of basketball?

[RedBlackAttack]

And I don't see what you get out of comparing Irving to one of the most injury prone betas in the league anyway.

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But he should get the drose jokes of being injured all the time

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[ROCSteady]

I've never liked Kyrie

[KiiiiNG]

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Wow, you showed him and ME!

Irving now doesn't have a big history of being a fragile chucker who doesn't play defense. YOU WIN!

[RedBlackAttack]

Wow, you showed him and ME!

Irving now doesn't have a big history of being a fragile chucker who doesn't play defense. YOU WIN!
Great. :cheers:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Kyrie had to deal with a lot of shit before LeBron. I remember how several of us Cavs fans would rather build around Dion Waiters. And he had to take all the blame for us not making the playoffs in 2013 - 14 without any decent vets on the squad.

Still will never understand the love for Waiters (stans and that one retarded Cavs fan excluded). I know we have some on here. Reveal and explains yourself.

I fail to see a big difference between him and Marcus Thornton, other than draft pick.

btw, least hated of relatively big names I would guess Butler. Really only see that Jizz dude and the one guy with 50 alt accounts go after him.

Manu is up there, if he's under consideration. Still rather popular figure in the NBA. And of course Dirk, ever since he won his ring. Who doesn't love Dirk? I'll slap you, bitch. Kyrie is definitely near the top.

[FatComputerNerd]

I liked Waiters and for a minute there it looked like the two of them could be the next Thomas/Dumars.

Haven't really followed him much since he left TBH, other than hearing about his refusing to stand for the national anthem.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I like Kyrie's game. At first, I was a skeptic when he came out of Duke. I remember my friend got me to really watch his highlights. He's great offensively but defensively, I feel he would only be at a high level if he had John Wall type of athleticism (just a notch or two Kyrie's raw athleticism).

He's definitely a top 5-10 PG every year. His handles are great (one of the best in the league, top 5). I can see him get better too so that's good for the Cavs franchise. I hope he can stay healthy.

I wasn't a huge believer of him in the past but in the past two years, I've grown to respect him more as a player.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I liked Waiters and for a minute there it looked like the two of them could be the next Thomas/Dumars.

Haven't really followed him much since he left TBH, other than hearing about his refusing to stand for the national anthem.

Spot on. I thought this too but of course without the defensive intensity. That's how I was feeling on draft night.

[RedBlackAttack]

I think most Cavs fans went through a period of real excitement for Dion, because he has a hell of a lot of talent. Fast first step, can handle the ball for his size, strong around the basket (though not a good finisher for whatever reason) and could be a good shooter when he heated up.

The problem was, he never quite fit alongside Kyrie. Now, we see that he's just a tough match in general with most teams. His game just doesn't lend itself to being a star in 2016. He's not good enough to be the primary scorer and playmaker on a really good team, but that's the role he's most comfortable in.

He wants to be THE star, but he's just not good enough.

He's got to be a nightmare for a GM because he'll have flashes and you'll think, "If this guy can ever put it together, he's going to be great" ... and then he stands around and sulks for 10 straight games.

But hey... Waiters got us Shumpert, JR Smith and the draft pick which eventually became Mozgov, so no hard feelings.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I think most Cavs fans went through a period of real excitement for Dion, because he has a hell of a lot of talent. Fast first step, can handle the ball for his size, strong around the basket (though not a good finisher for whatever reason) and could be a good shooter when he heated up.

The problem was, he never quite fit alongside Kyrie. Now, we see that he's just a tough match in general with most teams. His game just doesn't lend itself to being a star in 2016. He's not good enough to be the primary scorer and playmaker on a really good team, but that's the role he's most comfortable in.

He wants to be THE star, but he's just not good enough.

He's got to be a nightmare for a GM because he'll have flashes and you'll think, "If this guy can ever put it together, he's going to be great" ... and then he stands around and sulks for 10 straight games.

But hey... Waiters got us Shumpert, JR Smith and the draft pick which eventually became Mozgov, so no hard feelings.

Yeah, Cavs got a ton out of that trade. I wanted JR Smith out and I don't mind Lance Thomas being the type of player we wished Shumpert would be. He's extremely cheap, Lance Thomas, and adds great value.

Dion, I agree. I thought in college, he had flashes of greatness too. He reminded me a lot of a young JR at the time.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Might have something to do with Clevelanders not winning shit for 50+ years and when they finally get someone again that is a good player at 22 years old, they expect the world. I hope that Cleveland Clinic opens up another mental health wing because after this year when bron goes 2/7, that place is going to be filled up by people who went into it with unrealistic expectations.

Cleveland will never win another title in any sport unless a man named Jim Brown is playing and most Clevelanders have come to terms with that.
What city u from, what teams u root for?:lol

[NuggetsFan]

He's never been good enough to get "haters". Before LeBron he was in Cleveland hitting the lottery up and nobody really cared. Now he's playing 2nd fiddle to LeBron on one of the best teams top to bottom so everybody who hates LeBron will prop him up and he's not a threat to anybody who ISH is obsessed with.

I'd probably be considered a hater and I think he has one of the most entertaining games in the league. Great player. Just not top 5, MVP caliber etc. He's a scoring PG but not a guy that's ever put up massive scoring numbers consistently. Average playmaker for a PG. Isn't a bad defender anymore but nothing special there. Very good shooter, efficient. Really flashy game and can explode for big games.

I said it a few years ago but he had such a rounded scoring skillset for a young player. Could shoot, great at finishing, good at beating guys off the dribble he didn't have a ton of areas to really improve and take a huge step. Difference between his rookie season and last year was 3ish points on similar efficiency.

[keep-itreal]

I would root for him, but his teammate is Lebron so I cant