The Obama Doctrine>>>>>>>The Bush Doctrine

[DonDadda59]

With Iran being turned from an enemy into a potential partner and asset in the Middle East (if not necessarily an ally)- Their nuclear program being stunted and diplomacy leading to the release of 14 U.S. citizens/military personnel in the past week... With Iraqis/Kurds/Yazidi/etc doing the heavy lifting and liberating their own cities (with U.S. backing) from the clutches of ISIS without our soldiers being on the ground in years-long go nowhere quagmires... Isn't it clear, even before the end of Obama's tenure, that the sanctions/diplomacy/support paradigm is far more effective than attempted Nation building ala the Bush doctrine?

Thoughts?

[Nick Young]

Obama is doing good in recent times. With the crash of the Chinese stock market we are towering over every country in the world.

I must give credit where credit is due. I didn't like Obama's methods but I can't argue with his results.


His "America is just the best. That's just how it is." State of the Union speech was also badass and Gettysburg Address level in terms of speech dominance..

[DonDadda59]

Obama is doing good in recent times. With the crash of the Chinese stock market we are towering over every country in the world.

I must give credit where credit is due. I didn't like Obama's methods but I can't argue with his results.


His "America is just the best. That's just how it is." State of the Union speech was also badass and Gettysburg Address level in terms of speech dominance..

Is this some commie Manchurian Candidate scheme? :coleman:

[Nick Young]

Is this some commie Manchurian Candidate scheme? :coleman:
If you think I am a pro-China commie, you are a sadly confused gentleman.

I give credit where credit is due and admit when my criticism and judgement is wrong.

We are dominating the globe and Obama has left us in solid standing after his 8 years in office. We are better off now than we were before Obama's presidency IMO.

[PleezeBelieve]

Obama will go down as the best president since Roosevelt and its not close. He even shocked me... dude has been a walking billboard for moderate diplomacy.

[DonDadda59]

If you think I am a pro-China commie, you are a sadly confused gentleman.

I give credit where credit is due and admit when my criticism is wrong.

This was you like 3 months ago breh...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11739957&postcount=2

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740438&postcount=20

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740828&postcount=44

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740844&postcount=48

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740880&postcount=53

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740931&postcount=62

'Putin is the savior of the World, he's playing the Crimea situation beautifully, America is the real terrorists'...You make one bald eagle thread and you think real patriots are just gonna sweep that under the rug? :whatever:

[Akrazotile]

With Iran being turned from an enemy into a potential partner and asset in the Middle East (if not necessarily an ally)- Their nuclear program being stunted and diplomacy leading to the release of 14 U.S. citizens/military personnel in the past week... With Iraqis/Kurds/Yazidi/etc doing the heavy lifting and liberating their own cities (with U.S. backing) from the clutches of ISIS without our soldiers being on the ground in years-long go nowhere quagmires... Isn't it clear, even before the end of Obama's tenure, that the sanctions/diplomacy/support paradigm is far more effective than attempted Nation building ala the Bush doctrine?

Thoughts?


The same people who are responsible for the course now, are the ones responsible for the course before.

Do you really think George Bush and Barack Obama sit at their desk at home and draw up foreign policies, and everyone else goes with it?

Goals and strategies change constantly. It has little to do with the smiling, waving figurehead elected to the office.

Have you read 1984 dawg?

http://6dollarshirts.com/images/W/War_With_Eastasia_T_SHIRT_navy_truenavy_swatch.jpg




You've really been crushin hard on ol' Barry tho lately. Have you ever heard this saying?
http://www.evolvefish.com//v/vspfiles/photos/M-GREATMINDS-2T.jpg

[Nick Young]

This was you like 3 months ago breh...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11739957&postcount=2

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740438&postcount=20

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740828&postcount=44

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740844&postcount=48

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740880&postcount=53

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11740931&postcount=62

'Putin is the savior of the World, he's playing the Crimea situation beautifully, America is the real terrorists'...You make one bald eagle thread and you think real patriots are just gonna sweep that under the rug? :whatever:

Putin did and is playing the Crimea situation beautifully. I am not a fan at all of America's activity in Libya and Syria. I also still think that Putin's military activity in Syria improved the situation overall. It also forced America to step up so Russia doesn't get credit for ending the war.

Doesn't change the fact that overall, Obama has left us better than we were before him, and I was wrong with my criticism of him.

I'm just a normal person. It's ok if I flip flop with my opinions the more I read. I am not a politician.

[DonDadda59]

Putin did and is playing the Crimea situation beautifully.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Russia's GDP is due to contract by 9% because of the sanctions Obama and the EU put on him over the Crimea situation. The ruble is basically worthless now, millions more are living in poverty, Putin had to cut spending by 20% (including his own salary), etc. His excursions into Ukraine have brought nothing but ruin to his people.

I'm sure if Vlad starts behaving they can be the next Iran.

[Nick Young]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Russia's GDP is due to contract by 9% because of the sanctions Obama and the EU put on him over the Crimea situation. The ruble is basically worthless now, millions more are living in poverty, Putin had to cut spending by 20% (including his own salary), etc. His excursions into Ukraine have brought nothing but ruin to his people.

I'm sure if Vlad starts behaving they can be the next Iran.
Putin wanted Crimea. Putin now has Crimea. He got exactly what he wanted and what the Russian people wanted. No one did shit to stop him, despite threats made against him. IMO Putin won the Crimea affair. He called NATO's bluff. Despite his economic failure, the Russian people still support him by majority. That doesn't mean that Russia won't suffer consequences for taking Crimea, like they currently are.

[DonDadda59]

Putin wanted Crimea. Putin now has Crimea. He got exactly what he wanted. IMO Putin won the Crimea affair. That doesn't mean that Russia won't suffer consequences for it.

Again, try getting up to date with current affairs. The Crimean area Russia is claiming is in absolute disarray- in limbo over where they belong, no electricity, no trade, fading enthusiasm over joining the failing Russian State.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/world/europe/power-outage-forces-crimeans-to-reconsider-their-enthusiasm-for-secession.html?_r=0

http://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/ukraine-stops-power-supply-to-russian-annexed-crimea/

http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-politics/1946261-ban-on-supply-of-goods-to-crimea-enters-into-force-today.html

Absolute unequivocal disaster... But I guess that's what passes as playing a situation beautifully these days. :lol

[Nick Young]

Again, try getting up to date with current affairs. The Crimean area Russia is claiming is in absolute disarray- in limbo over where they belong, no electricity, no trade, fading enthusiasm over joining the failing Russian State.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/world/europe/power-outage-forces-crimeans-to-reconsider-their-enthusiasm-for-secession.html?_r=0

http://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/ukraine-stops-power-supply-to-russian-annexed-crimea/

http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-politics/1946261-ban-on-supply-of-goods-to-crimea-enters-into-force-today.html

Absolute unequivocal disaster... But I guess that's what passes as playing a situation beautifully these days. :lol
Too early to judge. Putin might sort it out. Maybe he won't and Crimea'll go back to Ukraine. As of now, Putin has called NATO's bluff and gotten exactly what he wanted.

[BoutPractice]

The premise of this thread is flawed because we know that Bush also tried to negotiate with Iran, and was interested in getting pretty much the exact same deal that Obama got.

I don't like Bush's record, but facts matter....

And as a general rule, it's worth remembering that sitting US presidents tend to be more pragmatic than candidates running for office.

[fiddy]

With Iran being turned from an enemy into a potential partner and asset in the Middle East (if not necessarily an ally)- Their nuclear program being stunted and diplomacy leading to the release of 14 U.S. citizens/military personnel in the past week... With Iraqis/Kurds/Yazidi/etc doing the heavy lifting and liberating their own cities (with U.S. backing) from the clutches of ISIS without our soldiers being on the ground in years-long go nowhere quagmires... Isn't it clear, even before the end of Obama's tenure, that the sanctions/diplomacy/support paradigm is far more effective than attempted Nation building ala the Bush doctrine?

Thoughts?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[DonDadda59]

The premise of this thread is flawed because we know that Bush also tried to negotiate with Iran, and was interested in getting pretty much the exact same deal that Obama got.

I don't like Bush's record, but facts matter....

And as a general rule, it's worth remembering that sitting US presidents tend to be more pragmatic than candidates running for office.

Bruh, Dubya sent over 160,000 troops into Iraq (only after devastating their infrastructure with 'shock and awe' bombings) based on a nonsensical search for 'weapons of mass destruction', which every person with an IQ over 65 knew didn't exist.

All that accomplished was to destabilize the country and region as a whole and we are still seeing the destructive ripple effects of that decision today. ISIS does not exist if Operation: Iraqi Freedom does not go down.

[fiddy]

Bruh, Dubya sent over 160,000 troops into Iraq (only after devastating their infrastructure with 'shock and awe' bombings) based on a nonsensical search for 'weapons of mass destruction', which every person with an IQ over 65 knew didn't exist.

All that accomplished was to destabilize the country and region as a whole and we are still seeing the destructive ripple effects of that decision today. ISIS does not exist if Operation: Iraqi Freedom does not go down.
For once you are right, but do you realize that the name of the president in office matters? You actually think that Bush Jr was some kind of a mastermind of the 2nd gulf war?

[DonDadda59]

For once you are right, but do you realize that the name of the president in office matters? You actually think that Bush Jr was some kind of a mastermind of the 2nd gulf war?

Lemme guess- it was the Illuminati pulling the strings from the shadows.

(The Illuminati being Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld)

[Nick Young]

Lemme guess- it was the Illuminati pulling the strings from the shadows.

(The Illuminati being Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld)
Didn't you see the Oliver Stone movie, breh?

[Akrazotile]

Bruh, Dubya sent over 160,000 troops into Iraq (only after devastating their infrastructure with 'shock and awe' bombings) based on a nonsensical search for 'weapons of mass destruction', which every person with an IQ over 65 knew didn't exist.

All that accomplished was to destabilize the country and region as a whole and we are still seeing the destructive ripple effects of that decision today. ISIS does not exist if Operation: Iraqi Freedom does not go down.



These things you seem to think were some kind of dumb, honest miscalculations were all the exact results intended by PNAC and all those involved.

The US has trillions of dollars at its disposal and is allied with plenty other wealthy nations. Whatever it wants to do, it's gonna do. Many of these hostilities with other nations and their leaders are the same charade as hostilities between members of Congress.

We declare war when convenient and declare new allies when convenient. The way the issue is framed or approached simply changes based on the party. To cater to voter expectations of each party's dogma.

As long as the masses are debating Obama vs Bush etc instead of trying to decide what their country should be doing and dictating that message to politicians, it's always gonna be a win for special interests.

[brownmamba00]

it's not even arguable

bush jr was an incompetent moron

[poido123]

Obama is coming to an end in office.


Don Dadda and other leftist cucks better be prepared for a proper leader to takeover. I expect plenty of tears and plenty of whining.


F.ck Obama and his lies.

[DonDadda59]

Obama is coming to an end in office.


Don Dadda and other leftist cucks better be prepared for a proper leader to takeover. I expect plenty of tears and plenty of whining.


F.ck Obama and his lies.

You 'live' in Australia. Shut the f*ck up. :lol

[poido123]

You 'live' in Australia. Shut the f*ck up. :lol


And this still affects me in a big way.


We piggy back America into wars and trade.


You are pretty intelligent, I'd imagine you would understand that Australia is hugely affected by America's president.


Don't act dumb.

[DonDadda59]

The Obama doctrine; Let Putin make an ass out of you at every chance.

Get with the times, fool. :yaohappy:

[poido123]

Get with the times, fool. :yaohappy:


You do come accross pretty butthurt that Putin makes big boy moves on the big stage, while Obama scrambles to say something coherent outside of a few empty statements.


Putin >>> Obama. Putin knows Obama is lying to his people.

[TomBrady]

Barry O. GOATing as usual. :applause:

GOAT recognize GOAT.

[Jameerthefear]

The Obama doctrine; Let Putin make an ass out of you at every chance.
the only people putin makes an ass out of is himself and morons like poido

[IcanzIIravor]

You do come accross pretty butthurt that Putin makes big boy moves on the big stage, while Obama scrambles to say something coherent outside of a few empty statements.


Putin >>> Obama. Putin knows Obama is lying to his people.

Are you even paying attention to what is going on in Russia?

[poido123]

the only people putin makes an ass out of is himself and morons like poido


what do you know about anything jameer other than living inside a basement and jacking off to anime?


It's amusing that you call people out, yet have no knowledge on anything.


Stick to being a deadbeat loser mooching off your parents.

[Jameerthefear]

what do you know about anything jameer other than living inside a basement and jacking off to anime?


It's amusing that you call people out, yet have no knowledge on anything.


Stick to being a deadbeat loser mooching off your parents.
Do you realize I'm still in highschool? :roll:

[DonDadda59]

You do come accross pretty butthurt that Putin makes big boy moves on the big stage, while Obama scrambles to say something coherent outside of a few empty statements.


Putin >>> Obama. Putin knows Obama is lying to his people.

Obama's sanctions on Russia over the Crimea incident have crippled Putin and Russia. Vlad was forced to take a personal 20% pay cut the past year+ following the sanction. The Rouble is pretty much worthless, the economy imploding... The Crimea, where all this trouble started- they don't even have electricity there right now.

Vlad has been a disaster for his country and people.

Check the $tats.

[poido123]

Are you even paying attention to what is going on in Russia?


Sure.


what would you like to know?

[IcanzIIravor]

Sure.


what would you like to know?

Then you know there economy is in shambles, yet you think Putin is doing a great job on the world stage. There is a serious disconnect from reality and wishful thinking. Of all the despots out there I am sure Putin isn't the one you should be proud of at the moment, unless you are a fan of Pyrrhic victories.

[DonDadda59]

Are you even paying attention to what is going on in Russia?

With Oil Prices Plunging, Russia Looks Ahead to Grim 2016 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/with-oil-prices-plunging-russia-looks-ahead-to-grim-2016/2016/01/14/3575a2c4-ba10-11e5-85cd-5ad59bc19432_story.html)

Prime Minister- Russian Economy Must Prepare for Worst Case Scenario (http://www.voanews.com/content/medvedew-russia-economy-must-prepare-for-worst-case-scenario/3143417.html)

Russian Rouble Slides to Record Low (http://www.ft.com/fastft/2016/01/15/russian-rouble-slides-close-to-record-low/)

Desperate Russia Eases Sanctions on Turkish Firms (http://www.dailysabah.com/money/2016/01/16/desperate-russia-eases-sanctions-on-turkish-firms-1452887457) (Big Bad Vlad sanctioned them after they shot down his jet fighter)

Sanctions Impact on Russia to be Longer Term, U.S. Says (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-sanctions-idUSKCN0UQ1ML20160112)

But yeah, other than that Putin is really showing up Obama. :roll:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FYfgqjECs1I/TeJoA2899DI/AAAAAAAAEII/7js84oWpRPk/s400/tumblr_kuxr34jtOb1qzeu38o1_400.png

[poido123]

Obama's sanctions on Russia over the Crimea incident have crippled Putin and Russia. Vlad was forced to take a personal 20% pay cut the past year+ following the sanction. The Rouble is pretty much worthless, the economy imploding... The Crimea, where all this trouble started- they don't even have electricity there right now.

Vlad has been a disaster for his country and people.

Check the $tats.


Yeah, 4% of GDP. It's a big hole and sanctions were placed out of his control as it was deemed to be illegal.

I read the same shit as you.

But on the world stage? And necessary efforts to fight ISIS and Islamic globalisation? He has been on the money. Obama has been wishy washy.


as far as Obama, would you like to explain the divide Obama has created with Muslims and non-believers in the country? the 100,000 migrants pouring in every year?

I think this is far more detrimental than what Putin is doing. Obama is allowing a mass genocide of the nation's people to manipulate future election votes and to succeed in crippling America and its people.

what obama is doing, is allowing Islam to infiltrate at all levels. Connections to muslim brotherhood in his administration and his anti-christian, pro muslim immigrant policy is extremely troubling.

[poido123]

Do you realize I'm still in highschool? :roll:


You aren;t leaving the basement.


who are you kidding :oldlol:

[Nick Young]

Putin is showing up Obama in the memes department for sure:rockon:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/45/09/0e/45090e8051d95bfdb3ed5a00bf2a643d.jpg

[DonDadda59]

As if Obama has anything to do with oil prices.

Word?

[INDENT]Obama: America is No. 1 producer of oil, gas

The United States is on top of the world in terms of energy production, President Barack Obama said during his sixth State of the Union.

"We believed we could reduce our dependence on foreign oil and protect our planet," he said during his Jan. 20 address. "And today, America is number one in oil and gas. America is number one in wind power. Every three weeks, we bring online as much solar power as we did in all of 2008."

We decided to check out the data and see if in fact the United States is the world

[Nick Young]

As if Obama has anything to do with oil prices.
He has reduced our dependence on foreign oil so in this case he is.

This is serving to not only f*ck over our enemies, but also make gas cheaper for the common American.

Again, as an avid Obama critic, I have to hand it to him here. He played the long game correctly on the oil front.

[DonDadda59]

He has reduced our dependence on foreign oil so in this case he is.

This is serving to not only f*ck over our enemies, but also make gas cheaper for the common American.

Again, as an avid Obama critic, I have to hand it to him here. He played the long game correctly on the oil front.

Barry O promised us freedom from foreign oil dependence in 2008 (http://cleantechnica.com/2008/06/05/obamas-plan-to-reduce-foreign-oil-dependence/), Now we're the #1 producer of oil on the planet. :bowdown:

Here's a fascinating article (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/president-obama-oil-weapon-war-russia-iran-isis?page=1) of how Obama is using the 'oil weapon' against the likes of Russia and ISiS.

All the simpletons who think winning is bombs going boom on the side of mountains... Read up. :lol

[Im Still Ballin]

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[Nick Young]

Barry O promised us freedom from foreign oil dependence in 2008 (http://cleantechnica.com/2008/06/05/obamas-plan-to-reduce-foreign-oil-dependence/), Now we're the #1 producer of oil on the planet. :bowdown:

Here's a fascinating article (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/president-obama-oil-weapon-war-russia-iran-isis?page=1) of how Obama is using the 'oil weapon' against the likes of Russia and ISiS.

All the simpletons who think winning is bombs going boom on the side of mountains... Read up. :lol
Your boy Barry O is doing the country proud. He's made a major face turn since his latest state of the Union Address:rockon:

[QUOTE]

Let me start with the economy, and a basic fact: The United States of America, right now, has the strongest, most durable economy in the world. (Applause.) We

[poido123]

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Word?

[INDENT]Obama: America is No. 1 producer of oil, gas

The United States is on top of the world in terms of energy production, President Barack Obama said during his sixth State of the Union.

"We believed we could reduce our dependence on foreign oil and protect our planet," he said during his Jan. 20 address. "And today, America is number one in oil and gas. America is number one in wind power. Every three weeks, we bring online as much solar power as we did in all of 2008."

We decided to check out the data and see if in fact the United States is the world

[Dresta]

What exactly is Don celebrating about here? Millions of people being forced into poverty for what reason exactly?

Because there are a bunch of American ignoramuses in the US State department who don't even know that Crimea is far more a part of Russia than it has ever been a part of Ukraine (and which America was encouraging to join a hostile alliance)?

Yay, yay, destitute people, yay! Barro O da best, yayyy! For some reason it's ok to cheer about people who are suffering for no reason aside from the US/EU need to control the world, and mould it to its liking.

The man is so much like Bush it's not even funny. He also think's it's America's duty to pour large amounts of money into pro-democratization programs, all over the wolrd, attempting to destabilize any government we do not like (or who just won't do what we tell them!). That's why the director of the CIA was in Kiev at the time of the Euromaidan uprising (where the legitimate government of Ukraine was overthrown in an American-backed putsch) - but, but, but "Russian aggression" when Russia opposes America basically being able to place its missiles right next to Moscow (and to take the Russian base of Sevastopol, no less).

Then again, i'd be surprised if someone like Don had even heard of Sevastopol before these recent events in Crimea. If he did, he would know the Russians would never give it up without a real fight, and that blaming Putin for doing what most Russians wanted (especially the higher-ups), is but more evidence of his general ignorance and idiocy.

[NumberSix]

He has reduced our dependence on foreign oil so in this case he is.
Barack Obama doesn't own an oil company. He doesn't run a government owned oil company. Oil is private business. All he can do as the executive is either get in the way of business or not get in the way. In the case of oil specifically, all he has done is get in the way. He has c0ck-blocked Canadian oil for absolutely no reason other than political posturing.

So no, he gets no credit. He's only been a hinderance. Oil prices have dropped DESPITE his obstructionism. Oil prices mainly have dropped due to a battle between oil producing countries for market share. Saudi Arabia has been flooding the market with oil to try to undercut North American competitors and to keep other Middle Eastern countries from cutting into their share of the market.

[StephHamann]

What exactly is Don celebrating about here? Millions of people being forced into poverty for what reason exactly?

Because there are a bunch of American ignoramuses in the US State department who don't even know that Crimea is far more a part of Russia than it has ever been a part of Ukraine (and which America was encouraging to join a hostile alliance)?

Yay, yay, destitute people, yay! Barro O da best, yayyy! For some reason it's ok to cheer about people who are suffering for no reason aside from the US/EU need to control the world, and mould it to its liking.

The man is so much like Bush it's not even funny. He also think's it's America's duty to pour large amounts of money into pro-democratization programs, all over the wolrd, attempting to destabilize any government we do not like (or who just won't do what we tell them!). That's why the director of the CIA was in Kiev at the time of the Euromaidan uprising (where the legitimate government of Ukraine was overthrown in an American-backed putsch) - but, but, but "Russian aggression" when Russia opposes America basically being able to place its missiles right next to Moscow (and to take the Russian base of Sevastopol, no less).

Then again, i'd be surprised if someone like Don had even heard of Sevastopol before these recent events in Crimea. If he did, he would know the Russians would never give it up without a real fight, and that blaming Putin for doing what most Russians wanted (especially the higher-ups), is but more evidence of his general ignorance and idiocy.

Damn, don't burn him like that.

[Nick Young]

Barack Obama doesn't own an oil company. He doesn't run a government owned oil company. Oil is private business. All he can do as the executive is either get in the way of business or not get in the way. In the case of oil specifically, all he has done is get in the way. He has c0ck-blocked Canadian oil for absolutely no reason other than political posturing.

So no, he gets no credit. He's only been a hinderance. Oil prices have dropped DESPITE his obstructionism. Oil prices mainly have dropped due to a battle between oil producing countries for market share. Saudi Arabia has been flooding the market with oil to try to undercut North American competitors and to keep other Middle Eastern countries from cutting into their share of the market.
He did that because F*ck Canada and f*ck the jelly donut eating ice monkeys who live there.


As an American you should surely understand this.

[Long Duck Dong]

Thread title is correct.

Obama is better than Bush. Both tried to remove dictators which kept relative order and peace in the region, and suppressed the extreme radical Islamic fundamentalists. But Bush actually succeeded.

So worst presidents in the last 100 years should be ranked.

1.Bush
2.Obama
3.Carter

[Hawker]

Barack Obama doesn't own an oil company. He doesn't run a government owned oil company. Oil is private business. All he can do as the executive is either get in the way of business or not get in the way. In the case of oil specifically, all he has done is get in the way. He has c0ck-blocked Canadian oil for absolutely no reason other than political posturing.

So no, he gets no credit. He's only been a hinderance. Oil prices have dropped DESPITE his obstructionism. Oil prices mainly have dropped due to a battle between oil producing countries for market share. Saudi Arabia has been flooding the market with oil to try to undercut North American competitors and to keep other Middle Eastern countries from cutting into their share of the market.

Obama said that you can't drill yourselves out of higher gas prices.

Well, that's exactly what happened. Too much crude in the world and now the price is basically free. He gets zero credit.


“And you can bet that since it’s an election year, they’re already dusting off their three-point plans for $2 gas,” Obama continued. “I’ll save you the suspense: Step one is drill, step two is drill, and step three is keep drilling. We heard the same thing in 2007, when I was running for president. We hear the same thing every year. We’ve heard the same thing for 30 years.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/05/obama-in-2012-we-cant-just-drill-our-way-to-lower-gas-prices/#ixzz3xYvrhfqQ

[Dresta]

Obama has that strange habit of asserting the patently untrue, and then, when people call him on his bs, the ability to portray them as fanatical obstructionists. He also manages to avoid the blame for most that goes wrong, and tries to take the credit for everything that goes right (even with things he is on-record as being completely wrong about).

"i'm being so reasonable guiz. Why don't you just do what I say and shut up for once"

...is the unending mantra of Obama.

"guiz, why don't you stop being meanies and bigots, and just be a nice, loving and caring guy like me - there's no need to be so evil: you can be accepting and inclusive JUST LIKE ME."

That one is actually a near-verbatim extraction from his own ridiculous and overpraised State of the Union lecture (because it was solely moralising lecture and not an address of any sort).

Quote:


When politicians insult Muslims, when a mosque is vandalized, or a kid bullied, that doesn’t make us safer. That’s not telling it like it is. It’s just wrong. It diminishes us in the eyes of the world. It makes it harder to achieve our goals. And it betrays who we are as a country.

The whole thing reads like a kind of grotesque and Stalin-like fanfaronade of imaginary achievements, combined with the standard (and totalitarian) "if you don't agree with me you like bullying kids and vandalizing mosques." (not to mention un-american)

He is a despicable man; and what his vacuous supporters don't even realise is that the surge in support for Trump is caused by the exasperation Obama has created, so much so that large segments of the Right just want their own Obama in office (someone willing to flout the law, do things 'his way' regardless of who disagrees or whether it is legal or not, and demonise all those who disagree with his positions), which is what they see in Trump.


And yeah, FATCA is actually one of the most far-reaching and oppressive laws in the history of civilization (no government has ever possessed such extreme power) - and this guy gets a pass for it - why?