View Full Version : ESPN: Dirk is greater than Barkley,Garnett
Anaximandro1
01-16-2016, 06:19 PM
ESPN: TOP 10 Power Forwards ever (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankPFs/ranking-greatest-power-forwards-nba-history)
1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. Dirk
4. Barkley
5. Garnett
6. McHale
7. Pettit
8. Hayes
9. Gasol
10. Rodman
AnaheimLakers24
01-16-2016, 06:20 PM
Duncan is a centrr. List is trash.
dirk is better than those 2 though.
why is your topic named as if dirk isnt better than barkley and garnett? if anything, he should be #2 on the list
penny4president
01-16-2016, 07:22 PM
i agree
Nick Young
01-16-2016, 07:52 PM
Dirk is better than Barkley and Garnett.
Barkley never won a title and Garnett only won one title and had to team up with 2 other HOFers to do it.
Dr Hawk
01-16-2016, 07:54 PM
Garnett > Dirk, Barkley
wordsRweapons
01-16-2016, 07:57 PM
well he did won a title practically by himself
NattyPButter
01-16-2016, 08:23 PM
Dirk is better than Barkley and Garnett.
Barkley never won a title and Garnett only won one title and had to team up with 2 other HOFers to do it.
and this why these list are dumb ass ****...Winning a title is all about team and is a team achievement. A prime peak Garnett is better then both Barkley and Dirk. He can score and play great defense.
Sarcastic
01-16-2016, 08:25 PM
Dirk is better than Barkley and Garnett.
Barkley never won a title and Garnett only won one title and had to team up with 2 other HOFers to do it.
And Dirk only won because Bron tanked. Wade was the best player in that series.
feyki
01-16-2016, 08:38 PM
and this why these list are dumb ass ****...Winning a title is all about team and is a team achievement. A prime peak Garnett is better then both Barkley and Dirk. He can score and play great defense.
5 years prime(100 poss and playoffs) ;
KG(00-04) - 29.2 pts , %51.5 TS , 104 Ortg
Dirk(02-07) - 31.7 pts , %57 TS , 118 Ortg
Dirk(08-12) - 37.6 pts , %61 TS , 120 Ortg
NattyPButter
01-16-2016, 09:39 PM
5 years prime(100 poss and playoffs) ;
KG(00-04) - 29.2 pts , %51.5 TS , 104 Ortg
Dirk(02-07) - 31.7 pts , %57 TS , 118 Ortg
Dirk(08-12) - 37.6 pts , %61 TS , 120 Ortg
like how you skipped over the defense part. Just like how ppl do the same with Curry.
iBandwagon
01-16-2016, 10:36 PM
All 3 are close. There is an argument for any order.
Haymaker
01-16-2016, 11:20 PM
WTF Gasol? Fvck you! :roll:
deja vu
01-16-2016, 11:25 PM
Dirk is better than Barkley and Garnett.
Barkley never won a title and Garnett only won one title and had to team up with 2 other HOFers to do it.
So on that basis, Sam Jones is better than Kobe.
Odinn
01-17-2016, 12:13 AM
We have the threads?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395688
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395713
Nick Young
01-17-2016, 12:14 AM
and this why these list are dumb ass ****...Winning a title is all about team and is a team achievement. A prime peak Garnett is better then both Barkley and Dirk. He can score and play great defense.
Dirk carried his team on his back on his title run. It was a top 5 all time great level run. Don't try to rewrite history.
A prime peak Garnett never lead his team anywhere of note. He is not close to the offensive game changer that Dirk was. Offensively KG did not have what it takes to be the man on a title winning team like Dirk does.
StephHamann
01-17-2016, 01:00 AM
Garnett > Dirk, Barkley
https://media.giphy.com/media/NBTCJY9xgNPHO/giphy.gif
feyki
01-17-2016, 10:59 AM
like how you skipped over the defense part. Just like how ppl do the same with Curry.
My answer is about his "can score" says .
Dr Hawk
01-17-2016, 10:59 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/NBTCJY9xgNPHO/giphy.gif
Ok that made me laugh :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
**** you
StephHamann
01-17-2016, 11:04 AM
and this why these list are dumb ass ****...Winning a title is all about team and is a team achievement. A prime peak Garnett is better then both Barkley and Dirk. He can score and play great defense.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5YF9dwGZ29rVe/giphy.gif
Dr Hawk
01-17-2016, 11:07 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/5YF9dwGZ29rVe/giphy.gif
KG is not far from TD. slightly better defensive player and slightly worse offensive player
Harison
01-17-2016, 12:11 PM
Garnett > Dirk, Barkley
Thats correct. Only those who dont value defense can think overwise.
DMAVS41
01-17-2016, 04:18 PM
Thats correct. Only those who dont value defense can think overwise.
False statement.
One can value defense, but also realize how important it is to have a transcendent offensive player that has a huge impact on and off the ball.
pastis
01-17-2016, 04:35 PM
water is wet
ShawkFactory
01-17-2016, 04:37 PM
Is this a hugely controversial thing?
Pointguard
01-17-2016, 04:46 PM
So Karl Malone is greater than Dirk.
But I do agree. If you go by everything you can't beat Karl Malone. With Barkley also ahead of KG its obvious they are saying that defense isn't a priority.
Marchesk
01-17-2016, 04:51 PM
Pettit massively underrated. He has an argument for 2nd best PF behind Duncan.
feyki
01-17-2016, 04:55 PM
Pettit massively underrated. He has an argument for 2nd best PF behind Duncan.
Yes , he is . I do count Elgin as a Power Forward . And They are 1a/1b after Duncan . Pettit clearly better than Dirk,Garnett,Karl,Barkley group at career .
dhsilv
01-17-2016, 05:19 PM
Yes , he is . I do count Elgin as a Power Forward . And They are 1a/1b after Duncan . Pettit clearly better than Dirk,Garnett,Karl,Barkley group at career .
792 career games...that alone is an issue.
feyki
01-17-2016, 05:31 PM
792 career games...that alone is an issue.
Bird - 897 ..
TheBigVeto
01-18-2016, 07:44 PM
ESPN is usually wrong, but in this case they got it correct.
The only flaw is: Dirk below Malone.
Dirk is 2nd GOAT PF after Duncan.
Dr. Cheesesteak
01-18-2016, 08:01 PM
Dirk is better than Barkley and Garnett.
Barkley never won a title and Garnett only won one title and had to team up with 2 other HOFers to do it.
And Dirk? lol...
Again, we resort to resume vs talent/ability, consideration of era, etc. Robert Horry should be GOAT PF. He has like 7 rings, right? :facepalm
Anyway, Barkley = Dirk. Both > KG. KG was a god on D, but he just didn't have the ability to take over games like Chuck and Dirk.
Pettit massively underrated. He has an argument for 2nd best PF behind Duncan.
I'd say McHale is underrated too. PF is a loaded position for historical considerations. Can't really go wrong w/ any of the top 7.
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