Sanctions on Iran lifted

[fiddy]

International sanctions against Iran have been lifted after the UN atomic watchdog announced that the country had complied with the terms of last July's landmark deal aimed at scaling down its nuclear programme.

The United States and the European Union said on Saturday that nuclear-related sanctions against Iran were lifted, after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said that Tehran had put in place all nuclear measures required under a deal reached with six world powers in July.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2016/01/iaea-iran-complied-nuclear-deal-160116205507774.html
Shit just got real

EDIT: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=834_1452983851 statement from John Kerry

[zoom17]

Republicans right now. :rant

[Nick Young]

Now that we did something for them, Iran best do something for us.

The time for Kurdistan is now. Help make it happen, Iran:rockon:

[fiddy]

Now that we did something for them, Iran best do something for us.

The time for Kurdistan is now. Help make it happen, Iran:rockon:
I dont see them getting involved with that, they dont have real interest in helping Kurdistan beyond messing with Turkey (their neighbors). IMO the persians are gonna focus their efforts on shitting on Saudi Arabia.

[Nick Young]

I dont see them getting involved with that, they dont have real interest in helping Kurdistan beyond messing with Turkey (their neighbors). IMO the persians are gonna focus their efforts on shitting on Saudi Arabia.
Both the Kurds and Iranians want to wipe out ISIS.

[DonDadda59]

Putin should take this as a lesson. You want those sanctions lifted and your economy to stop imploding? Start behaving and do as you're told and you'll get a treat like the Ayatollah just did.

Obama and Kerry. :applause:

[brownmamba00]

eat shit netanyahu

[fiddy]

Putin should take this as a lesson. You want those sanctions lifted and your economy to stop imploding? Start behaving and do as you're told and you'll get a treat like the Ayatollah just did.

Obama and Kerry. :applause:
....or just nuke this shit out of the U.S.

[Nick Young]

eat shit netanyahu
Why do you think Netanyahu is upset about this? Iran are going to turn their focus on to Israel's enemy Saudi Arabia now.

If anything, Netanyahu is happy about this.

[brownmamba00]

Why do you think Netanyahu is upset about this? Iran are going to turn their focus on to Israel's enemy Saudi Arabia now.

If anything, Netanyahu is happy about this.
oh please 3 months ago he was crying at the UN

almost begging for the US to not make the nuclear deal with Iran

and you think he's happy now about the sanctions being lifted? :oldlol:

are you actin like one or are you really dumb?

[Nick Young]

oh please 3 months ago he was crying at the UN

almost begging for the US to not make the nuclear deal with Iran

and you think he's happy now about the sanctions being lifted? :oldlol:

are you actin like one or are you really dumb?
Keep taking Ls, Israel hater:lol

Netanyahu can still send F16s to blow up Iranian nuclear facilities whenever he wants to, just like Israel has always done.

Israel is happy that Iran can now focus on the Saudis.

[DonDadda59]

....or just nuke this shit out of the U.S.

Yeah, good luck with that. :lol

Putin had plans of colonizing the moon (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-ditches-plans-colonise-7087898), had to squash that. I doubt they can afford to get their old, rickety missiles here either way.

Putin holds the biggest L until he starts acting right. How long will the people of Russia put up with his destructive incompetence? Some indications say his days may be numbered. :(

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/01/15/restless-russia-411530.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/08/can-russia-stave-off-social-unrest.html

http://fortune.com/2015/12/09/putins-nemesis-returns-to-politics-urging-russian-revolution/

If you were hoping the Soviet Union was going to make a come back... tough beans.

[fiddy]

Yeah, good luck with that. :lol

Putin had plans of colonizing the moon (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-ditches-plans-colonise-7087898), had to squash that. I doubt they can afford to get their old, rickety missiles here either way.

Putin holds the biggest L until he starts acting right. How long will the people of Russia put up with his destructive incompetence? Some indications say his days may be numbered. :(

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/01/15/restless-russia-411530.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/08/can-russia-stave-off-social-unrest.html

http://fortune.com/2015/12/09/putins-nemesis-returns-to-politics-urging-russian-revolution/

If you were hoping the Soviet Union was going to make a come back... tough beans.


"right"? :whatever: i can tell you only thing, whatever your country is doing is not right by a long shot. Mixed type system will make a come back sooner or later. And one more thing, U.S. is using the same strategy against Russia as it did in the 80s, but most likely wont end up with the same result

[DonDadda59]

oh please 3 months ago he was crying at the UN

Oh yeah, I remember his little 3rd grade diorama presentation. :lol

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2012/10/02/netanyahus_un_bomb_prop_childish_says_ahmadinejad/netanyahuprop.jpeg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpeg

[DonDadda59]

"right"? :whatever: i can tell you only thing, whatever your country is doing is not right by a long shot. Mixed type system will make a come back sooner or later. And one more thing, U.S. is using the same strategy against Russia as it did in the 80s, but most likely wont end up with the same result

Lenin and Stalin are dead and this isn't 1962. If Putin and Russia want to see money flowing into the country and sanctions lifted, they need to start behaving. Simple as that. Learn from the Ayatollah and Iran.

If Putin keeps this up, maybe the Bolsheviks will rise up again. Only time will tell.

[fiddy]

Lenin and Stalin are dead and this isn't 1962. If Putin and Russia want to see money flowing into the country and sanctions lifted, they need to start behaving. Simple as that. Learn from the Ayatollah and Iran.

If Putin keeps this up, maybe the Bolsheviks will rise up again. Only time will tell.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[poido123]

eat shit netanyahu



Didn't Nick Young call you out on this anti-Jew hate and you flat out denied it?


Muslims full of liars :oldlol:

[Nick Young]

Didn't Nick Young call you out on this anti-Jew hate and you flat out denied it?


Muslims full of liars :oldlol:
He has a long and proud history of being pro-Hamas and anti-Israel, or in his words "anti-zionist" ie Muslim code for antisemitism/the PC acceptable way to be antisemitic.

[BigNBAfan]

Oh yeah, I remember his little 3rd grade diorama presentation. :lol

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2012/10/02/netanyahus_un_bomb_prop_childish_says_ahmadinejad/netanyahuprop.jpeg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpeg
:roll:

[fiddy]

http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/content/images/Is-This-The-UN-Or-A-Wile-E-Coyote-Cartoon-Plus-The-Top-5-Most-Bizarre-Speeches-Ever-at-the-United-Nations-feature3.jpg

[BigNBAfan]

gas prices hopefully will drop even more

[DonDadda59]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9SFMmrRPKS8/hqdefault.jpg

Dadda finna get banned. :facepalm

[fiddy]

gas prices hopefully will drop even more
Wont last for too long doe, a conflict is brewing in the region (two actually)

[fiddy]

updated OP with this http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=834_1452983851


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9SFMmrRPKS8/hqdefault.jpg

Dadda finna get banned. :facepalm
See you bruh http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131114212351/elderscrolls/images/5/53/Wave_Smiley_Emoticon.gif

[Nick Young]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9SFMmrRPKS8/hqdefault.jpg

Dadda finna get banned. :facepalm
Too bad Palestine was never a nation state before Israel existed. The concept of Palestine as a nation and Palestinians as a group of people didn't even exist until Israel came.


Your ignorance on the history of the region amuses no one.

[poido123]

I can see America breaking this agreement once Trump gets into power.


You can't trust that fundamentalist style government. Rouhani is already on record for saying some pretty imflammatory comments towards America and it's not like he's suddenly going to be best buddies after saying things like 'Death to America'.


Iran's people are progressive, their government is holding them back majorly.

[DonDadda59]

Too bad Palestine was never a nation state before Israel existed. The concept of Palestine as a nation and Palestinians as a group of people didn't even exist until Israel came.


Your ignorance on the history of the region amuses no one.

Say word? How did that happen? :confusedshrug:

[IcanzIIravor]

I can see America breaking this agreement once Trump gets into power.


You can't trust that fundamentalist style government. Rouhani is already on record for saying some pretty imflammatory comments towards America and it's not like he's suddenly going to be best buddies after saying things like 'Death to America'.


Iran's people are progressive, their government is holding them back majorly.

Good thing Trump won't be in power. I don't think any of the western powers trust the Iranian government. It isn't like our SIGINT is going to no longer be focused on Iran. This is as much about their huge population of young people as anything. The old guard there will face ever increasing unrest as they try to keep hold of power. It will be interesting to see how long they can remain in power. As with most of these countries the focus really should be on who in the military structure exerts the most control and loyalty.

[Nick Young]

Say word? How did that happen? :confusedshrug:
Read a history book.

Then you will know.

[poido123]

Good thing Trump won't be in power. I don't think any of the western powers trust the Iranian government. It isn't like our SIGINT is going to no longer be focused on Iran. This is as much about their huge population of young people as anything. The old guard there will face ever increasing unrest as they try to keep hold of power. It will be interesting to see how long they can remain in power. As with most of these countries the focus really should be on who in the military structure exerts the most control and loyalty.


Most people have their knickers in a twist over his 'kick the muslims out' rhetoric.

I honestly don't think people have digested exactly what he was saying. Trump was merely calling for a temporary halt on immigration of Muslims, until conflicts and terrorism is sorted out.


What is so outrageous about that? Seems pretty logical to me.

As with many middle eastern governments, it usually comes down to who rules with an iron fist and who is able to corrupt the right people. been that way for years.

[IcanzIIravor]

Most people have their knickers in a twist over his 'kick the muslims out' rhetoric.

I honestly don't think people have digested exactly what he was saying. Trump was merely calling for a temporary halt on immigration of Muslims, until conflicts and terrorism is sorted out.


What is so outrageous about that? Seems pretty logical to me.

As with many middle eastern governments, it usually comes down to who rules with an iron fist and who is able to corrupt the right people. been that way for years.

It's idiotic. There are very few Muslim's who are terrorists. You can't block all Islamic immigrants because a few have you terrified. This is the USA, not some third world dictatorship afraid of it's own shadows. We certainly aren't the USA prior to WW1 or WW2, rounding up Japanese Americans out of misguided ignorance and fear.

Terrorism is not something that will be sorted out n our lifetime. It only takes a handful of determined nuts to cause mayhem. I've been over there and have met and worked with plenty of Muslim's fighting and dying to stop the terrorists. The notion of preventing them from legally immigrating to the USA because some ignorant person thinks a few terrorists equal all Muslim's is ridiculous to me.

It comes down to paying off their armed forces much more than ruling with an iron fist. It's how Russia, North Korea, Iran and the others survive and it is what led to Egypt dumping Mubarak. Once the military decides you aren't worth keeping in power things change swiftly regardless of how many purges you do at the top.

[BigNBAfan]

Needless to say i'm no fan of islam, but when put up against the jews i lean brown. Get em Iran!

[Nick Young]

Needless to say i'm no fan of islam, but when put up against the jews i lean brown. Get em Iran!
Iran is going to go against the Saudis and ISIS, not the Jews.

[Nick Young]

It's idiotic. There are very few Muslim's who are terrorists. You can't block all Islamic immigrants because a few have you terrified. This is the USA, not some third world dictatorship afraid of it's own shadows. We certainly aren't the USA prior to WW1 or WW2, rounding up Japanese Americans out of misguided ignorance and fear.


Have you not been paying attention to what's been happening in Europe breh?:facepalm

[IcanzIIravor]

Have you not been paying attention to what's been happening in Europe breh?:facepalm

A simple look at a map of the world will show why we aren't experiencing the issues Europe is experiencing. Can you guess why?

[Nick Young]

A simple look at a map of the world will show why we aren't experiencing the issues Europe is experiencing. Can you guess why?
Because we haven't allowed 1 million+ unvetted economic migrants in to our country all at once.

[IcanzIIravor]

Because we haven't allowed 1 million+ unvetted economic migrants in to our country all at once.

That is part of it, but the main part is they aren't fewkin' connected to us. Prevents an immediate humanitarian crisis and bleeding hearts from opening the borders unconditionally and vetting later. Comparing the US immigration policy to what is happening in Europe is silly. If you're one of the people who think the USA should prevent ALL Muslim's from legally immigrating then you are part of the problem and unwittingly you are doing exactly what ISIS and AQ want. They would like nothing more than for us to not see a difference between individuals, but to just think of all Muslim's as terrorists.

[Nick Young]

That is part of it, but the main part is they aren't fewkin' connected to us. Prevents an immediate humanitarian crisis and bleeding hearts from opening the borders unconditionally and vetting later. Comparing the US immigration policy to what is happening in Europe is silly. If you're one of the people who think the USA should prevent ALL Muslim's from legally immigrating then you are part of the problem and unwittingly you are doing exactly what ISIS and AQ want. They would like nothing more than for us to not see a difference between individuals, but to just think of all Muslim's as terrorists.
I don't think the US should do that, so don't try to straw man me.

But they better f*cking vet everyone they let in to make sure f*cking sleeper agent ISIS f*cks aren't allowed in.


We've already seen with the San Bernadino terrorist attack that Homeland Security is not entirely reliable.


I do know that the US is generally very good about only allowing elites to legally immigrate in to our country. We don't allow no scrubs.

[IcanzIIravor]

I don't think the US should do that, so don't try to straw man me.

But they better f*cking vet everyone they let in to make sure f*cking sleeper agent ISIS f*cks aren't allowed in.


We've already seen with the San Bernadino terrorist attack that Homeland Security is not entirely reliable.


I do know that the US is generally very good about only allowing elites to legally immigrate in to our country. We don't allow no scrubs.

You can only vet so much. That is the price you pay for a more open society. There will be some who slip through the system. I don't think you want the restrictions needed of your freedom to prevent any from happening.

[Nick Young]

You can only vet so much. That is the price you pay for a more open society. There will be some who slip through the system. I don't think you want the restrictions needed of your freedom to prevent any from happening.
Them having a better vetting process on Middle Eastern immigrants is not going to affect my freedoms in any way.


Yes I very much would like them to improve their vetting process. There is not "only so much they can do" when it comes to not letting anyone in the country who has any ties to Islamic terrorist organizations.

If there is any hint that someone might be a terrorist, do not give them the benefit of the doubt.

[IcanzIIravor]

Them having a better vetting process on Middle Eastern immigrants is not going to affect my freedoms in any way.


Yes I very much would like them to improve their vetting process. There is not "only so much they can do" when it comes to not letting anyone in the country who has any ties to Islamic terrorist organizations.

If there is any hint that someone might be a terrorist, do not give them the benefit of the doubt.

Sure it will. it will be a helluva lot more expensive, it will require more people to be hired by the government. It will require far more cooperation between the USA and so called rogue nations and our allies like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. SIGINT only reveals so much, so it will require additional resources sent into these countries, whether official or covert. It will also mean more data gathering and invasion of privacy within the USA as we also then have to delve more in depth on the people currently in the USA who are sponsoring them, which in turn means looking at the people they know. I think you don't know just how in depth currently is and what it would take to make it 100% successful as you seem to think it has to be. Are you a fan of the Patriot Act?

[Nick Young]

Sure it will. it will be a helluva lot more expensive, it will require more people to be hired by the government. It will require far more cooperation between the USA and so called rogue nations and our allies like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. SIGINT only reveals so much, so it will require additional resources sent into these countries, whether official or covert. It will also mean more data gathering and invasion of privacy within the USA as we also then have to delve more in depth on the people currently in the USA who are sponsoring them, which in turn means looking at the people they know. I think you don't know just how in depth currently is and what it would take to make it 100% successful as you seem to think it has to be. Are you a fan of the Patriot Act?

If it prevents murderous terrorist Islamic fundamentalist f*cks in to our nation as refugees, it is all 100% worth it.

If the Patriot Act is preventing terrorist from entering our borders, and I believe it is, hell yes I am a fan of the Patriot Act now. I was not before all of this ISIS shit started though.

[IcanzIIravor]

If it prevents murderous terrorist Islamic fundamentalist f*cks in to our nation as refugees, it is all 100% worth it.

Well I think we are definitely on opposing sides. I am with Benjamin Franklin on this. I am not willing to give up liberty to obtain temporary safety or the illusion of it.

[Nick Young]

Well I think we are definitely on opposing sides. I am with Benjamin Franklin on this. I am not willing to give up liberty to obtain temporary safety or the illusion of it.
The liberty has already been given up. Patriot Act is not going away any time soon whether we like it or not.


You either give up liberty or you don't take any risks and only let in the intellectual and financial elites.


If you want to be letting millions of refugees in from Syria, there better be a ****ing good vetting process.

[poido123]

It's idiotic. There are very few Muslim's who are terrorists. You can't block all Islamic immigrants because a few have you terrified. This is the USA, not some third world dictatorship afraid of it's own shadows. We certainly aren't the USA prior to WW1 or WW2, rounding up Japanese Americans out of misguided ignorance and fear.

Terrorism is not something that will be sorted out n our lifetime. It only takes a handful of determined nuts to cause mayhem. I've been over there and have met and worked with plenty of Muslim's fighting and dying to stop the terrorists. The notion of preventing them from legally immigrating to the USA because some ignorant person thinks a few terrorists equal all Muslim's is ridiculous to me.

It comes down to paying off their armed forces much more than ruling with an iron fist. It's how Russia, North Korea, Iran and the others survive and it is what led to Egypt dumping Mubarak. Once the military decides you aren't worth keeping in power things change swiftly regardless of how many purges you do at the top.



Why not allow everyone BUT middle Eastern/North African and muslim males into USA until shit is sorted out then?

That way you aren't being anti-migrant and you are still keeping to the international standards?

I still think you are WAAAAYYY underestimating just how many muslims are part of the global stealth war. It is very difficult to be on the same page with you, if you don't see the golbal infiltration of Islam at all corners of society.

It's a religious cult with governing powers IMO. Islam has a political identity and allegiance transcending all others.

[brownmamba00]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9SFMmrRPKS8/hqdefault.jpg

Dadda finna get banned. :facepalm
ouch :lol

[NumberSix]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9SFMmrRPKS8/hqdefault.jpg

Dadda finna get banned. :facepalm
Why don't people ever complain about Ottoman land being "stolen" by Arabs?

[fiddy]

Why don't people ever complain about Ottoman land being "stolen" by Arabs?
Because the turks stole it from the arabs before that.

[NumberSix]

Because the turks stole it from the arabs before that.
Actually, the Ottoman Turks took it from the Mamluk Turks, who took it from the Kurds, who took it from the Byzantines.

What exactly gives Arabs such a claim?why do they have anymore claim to the land then, let's say the Romans? Why shouldn't the Italians or the Greeks just be like "screw you guys, we're taking it back"?

[Nick Young]

Because the turks stole it from the arabs before that.
no they didn't

[Long Duck Dong]

David Bowie was a prophet when he said that liberalism will continue to ignore reality and let the world erode around us until an "extreme right front comes up and sweeps everything off its feet and tidy everything up". At which point the world will get better for those who make the effort to do it, then liberal ideology will creep back in, and we will wash and repeat.

Iran is dangerous and a threat to all 1st world nations. But we haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until technology makes oil obsolete, then we will see how dangerous they can be when desperate.

[fiddy]

The United States is to repay Iran a $400 million debt and $1.3 billion in interest dating to the Islamic revolution, Secretary of State John Kerry said Sunday.
The repayment, which settles a suit brought under an international legal tribunal, is separate from the tens of billions of dollars in frozen foreign accounts that Iran can now access after the end of nuclear sanctions.

But the timing of the announcement, one day after the implementation of the Iran nuclear accord, will be seen as pointing to a broader clearing of the decks between the old foes.

US President Barack Obama defended the settlement in a televised statement from the White House, saying it was for "much less than the amount Iran sought."



http://news.yahoo.com/us-pay-iran-1-7-bn-debt-interest-160942074.html

ouch

[Nick Young]

David Bowie was a prophet when he said that liberalism will continue to ignore reality and let the world erode around us until an "extreme right front comes up and sweeps everything off its feet and tidy everything up". At which point the world will get better for those who make the effort to do it, then liberal ideology will creep back in, and we will wash and repeat.

Iran is dangerous and a threat to all 1st world nations. But we haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until technology makes oil obsolete, then we will see how dangerous they can be when desperate.
Dude Iran isn't going to do shit, they aren't capable of doing anything of note, calm down. The Iranians are way more progressive and moderate than anyone else in the Middle East barring Israel, Lebanon, Jordan and Bahrain.

[IcanzIIravor]

David Bowie was a prophet when he said that liberalism will continue to ignore reality and let the world erode around us until an "extreme right front comes up and sweeps everything off its feet and tidy everything up". At which point the world will get better for those who make the effort to do it, then liberal ideology will creep back in, and we will wash and repeat.

Iran is dangerous and a threat to all 1st world nations. But we haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until technology makes oil obsolete, then we will see how dangerous they can be when desperate.

How is Iran a threat to all 1st world nations? Do you consider them a bigger threat that Best Korea? What has Iran done since the revolution that makes you think they are a significant threat?

[Terahite]

David Bowie was a prophet when he said that liberalism will continue to ignore reality and let the world erode around us until an "extreme right front comes up and sweeps everything off its feet and tidy everything up". At which point the world will get better for those who make the effort to do it, then liberal ideology will creep back in, and we will wash and repeat.

Iran is dangerous and a threat to all 1st world nations. But we haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until technology makes oil obsolete, then we will see how dangerous they can be when desperate.

You started with something mildly interesting about Bowie but finished with a sentiment pulled out of your neocon ass. Do you realize we've done nothing but terrorize this country since at least 1953 when we overthrew their elected leadership? :facepalm

[rufuspaul]

The old guard there will face ever increasing unrest as they try to keep hold of power. It will be interesting to see how long they can remain in power.


Well handing over billions in cash should help. :facepalm

[UK2K]

http://news.yahoo.com/us-pay-iran-1-7-bn-debt-interest-160942074.html

ouch


US President Barack Obama defended the settlement in a televised statement from the White House, saying it was for "much less than the amount Iran sought."

"They wanted $1.5 billion for nothing, we agreed on $1.4. Job well done by me." - Hussein Obama.

[bladefd]

What the hell was the interest rate on that? You pay the cost of that old agreement & account for inflation but WTF is up with the interest? $400 million turned into $1.4 billion..

You tell Iran we will pay what we owe you, but stick the interest up your a$$es (in diplomatic language obviously). We cut ties with you because of YOUR actions in 79. You don't deserve the interest. That's it! Who the hell can make US pay the interest? Nobody can!

[fiddy]

What the hell was the interest rate on that? You pay the cost of that old agreement & account for inflation but WTF is up with the interest? $400 million turned into $1.4 billion..

You tell Iran we will pay what we owe you, but stick the interest up your a$$es (in diplomatic language obviously). We cut ties with you because of YOUR actions in 79. You don't deserve the interest. That's it! Who the hell can make US pay the interest? Nobody can!
What about 79? Iran protected its national interests

[IcanzIIravor]

Well handing over billions in cash should help. :facepalm

That money was legally owed to them, correct? It's a fraction of what they will be making with their oil officially back on the global market, even with the price as is.

[IcanzIIravor]

What the hell was the interest rate on that? You pay the cost of that old agreement & account for inflation but WTF is up with the interest? $400 million turned into $1.4 billion..

You tell Iran we will pay what we owe you, but stick the interest up your a$$es (in diplomatic language obviously). We cut ties with you because of YOUR actions in 79. You don't deserve the interest. That's it! Who the hell can make US pay the interest? Nobody can!

And they did what they did because we overthrew a democratically elected government to put a tyrant in power. I'd say we are even and can move forward now.