Trade idea: Love and Mozgov for Whiteside and green?

[Lebronxrings]

Why for heat? They get 2 pieces for whiteside and don't risk him going for nothing.

Why for cavs? Lebron finally gets a teammate that isn't trash and they get rid of unnecessary pieces. Green can be the energizer and would be great being a 3+d guy on the cavs (something they really want)

Cavs:
Irving/delly/mo
JR/shumpert
lebron/green
TT/rich
Whiteside/andy

I think it would be great for the cavs. Spacing is an issue but whiteside+ lebron is too dam good to give up.

Note: Heat and cavs would have to throw in some contracts for this work, but the main gist is love,moz for hassan,green,others.

[Cocaine80s]

Love + Thompson for Durant

[Straight_Ballin]

Why for heat? They get 2 pieces for whiteside and don't risk him going for nothing.

Why for cavs? Lebron finally gets a teammate that isn't trash and they get rid of unnecessary pieces. Green can be the energizer and would be great being a 3+d guy on the cavs (something they really want)

Cavs:
Irving/delly/mo
JR/shumpert
lebron/green
TT/rich
Whiteside/andy

I think it would be great for the cavs. Spacing is an issue but whiteside+ lebron is too dam good to give up.

Note: Heat and cavs would have to throw in some contracts for this work, but the main gist is love,moz for hassan,green,others.

Did you just start watching the Cavs this year? Lebron has played with:

Wade.....top 5 sg all time
Bosh.....all-star
Shaq.....top 10 player all time
Z......all-star
Mo Williams.....all-star

All of these players were better than whiteside and green before they played with Bron and after they played with Bron.

[r0drig0lac]

Whiteside > Love
Green > Mozgov

[SouBeachTalents]

Did you just start watching the Cavs this year? Lebron has played with:

Wade.....top 5 sg all time
Bosh.....all-star
Shaq.....top 10 player all time
Z......all-star
Mo Williams.....all-star

All of these players were better than whiteside and green before they played with Bron and after they played with Bron.

If you didn't include that this would have actually been a fair post

[Gus Hemmingway]

straight ballin, What city u from, teams u root for?:lol

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Lol @ Whiteside becoming a spot up shooter.

Lebron and his fans have an EXTREMELY low bball IQ. They can't figure out why this man keeps losing on the biggest stage.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Legays fanbase is so pathetic and gay :lol

[livinglegend]

Did you just start watching the Cavs this year? Lebron has played with:

Wade.....top 5 sg all time
Bosh.....all-star
Shaq.....top 10 player all time
Z......all-star
Mo Williams.....all-star

All of these players were better than whiteside and green before they played with Bron and after they played with Bron.

That's not true. Mo williams (worse than whitside and green before and after playing with Lebron), Shaq (worse than both after playing with Lebron), Z (after playing with Lebron).

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If you didn't include that this would have actually been a fair post

If Shaq wasn't a top 10 player of all time, your post would make sense.

[livinglegend]

Lol @ Whiteside becoming a spot up shooter.

Lebron and his fans have an EXTREMELY low bball IQ. They can't figure out why this man keeps losing on the biggest stage.

Is Tristan Thompson a spot up shooter right now?

[SouBeachTalents]

If Shaq wasn't a top 10 player, your post would make sense.

The version of Shaq LeBron got was "top 10 player of all time" caliber?

If so, then the '04 Lakers are the most stacked team of all time

[livinglegend]

If Shaq wasn't a top 10 player of all time, your post would make sense.

2013 Lakers:
Nash: 2 times MVP, multiple all-stars
Artest: DPOY
Gasol : 1 FMVP robbed, multiple allstars
Howard: Multiple all-stars, multiple DPOY

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Is Tristan Thompson a spot up shooter right now?

Lebron barely even runs pick and rollswith Thompson because he doesn't know how to utilize an athletic or traditional big man. Seems like Delly optimizes TT more than Lebron does.

[BasedTom]

lebron needs more help

[TheMarkMadsen]

So the cavs couldn't play Mozgof and TT together for long stretches in the finals because it created spacing problems for Lebron so your idea is to trade the stretch 4 for another guy who is going to clog the lane..

k

[livinglegend]

Lebron barely even runs pick and rollswith Thompson because he doesn't know how to utilize an athletic or traditional big man. Seems like Delly optimizes TT more than Lebron does.

Thompson was basically a scrub before Lebron.
People laughed at him when he turned down the contract extension offered by Cavs.

[livinglegend]

So the cavs couldn't play Mozgof and TT together for long stretches in the finals because it created spacing problems for Lebron so your idea is to trade the stretch 4 for another guy who is going to clog the lane..

k

Wrong.
They didn't play together because they couldn't defend Warriors's small ball.

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2013 Lakers:
Nash: 2 times MVP, multiple all-stars
Artest: DPOY
Gasol : 1 FMVP robbed, multiple allstars
Howard: Multiple all-stars, multiple DPOY

Kobe: 5 rings playing with Gasol, Shaq

Lebron: 2 rings playing with Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Shane Battier.

I can post arbitrary sh1t too.

[Straight_Ballin]

lebron needs more help

This is really the gist of it all. Have you ever seen a self proclaimed chosen one whine so much about not having enough help?

[Gus Hemmingway]

This is really the gist of it all. Have you ever seen a self proclaimed chosen one whine so much about not having enough help?
Aye, what city u from'. Teams u root for??




Bahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

[livinglegend]

Kobe: 5 rings playing with Gasol, Shaq

Lebron: 2 rings playing with Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Shane Battier.

I can post arbitrary sh1t too.

That was the whole point of my post. The Shaq: top 10 all time was arbitrary.

[Straight_Ballin]

straight ballin, What city u from, teams u root for?:lol

I don't respond seriously to alts. I'm from a place that has enough to offer that I don't find myself making 1000 posts in just 2 months. Where do you live? Sounds like a boring place.

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Wrong.
They didn't play together because they couldn't defend Warriors's small ball.

Did you watch the finals???

The only chance the Cavs had was to bully the warriors down low with Mozgov using his superior height as an advantage.

This meant that Lebron would have to sacrifice stats and play off ball more to create adequate space for Mozgov to operate....we know what happened the game after Mozgov showed his impact.

Lebron refuses to sacrifice his stats (specifically FG%) to win games.

[livinglegend]

I don't respond seriously to alts. I'm from a place that has enough to do that I don't find myself making 1000 posts in just 2 months.

You just responded to him meaning that you don't believe he is an alt.
So what was the point of your post?

[Straight_Ballin]

You just responded to him meaning that you don't believe he is an alt.
So what was the point of your post?

I said I don't respond seriously to alts. Meaning he can take the reply how ever he wants. I could care less. You seem to care enough though to reply.

[SouBeachTalents]

Did you watch the finals???

The only chance the Cavs had was to bully the warriors down low with Mozgov using his superior height as an advantage.

This meant that Lebron would have to sacrifice stats and play off ball more to create adequate space for Mozgov to operate....we know what happened the game after Mozgov showed his impact.

Lebron refuses to sacrifice his stats (specifically FG%) to win games.

Did you watch the Finals? Did you see what his field goal attempts and FG% was?

[Black and White]

Would any Heat fans want this?

Love + Mozgov isn't bad at all if used correctly

[livinglegend]

Did you watch the finals???

The only chance the Cavs had was to bully the warriors down low with Mozgov using his superior height as an advantage.

This meant that Lebron would have to sacrifice stats and play off ball more to create adequate space for Mozgov to operate....we know what happened the game after Mozgov showed his impact.

Lebron refuses to sacrifice his stats (specifically FG%) to win games.

The game where mozgov scored 28 points and they played Thompson and Mozgov together a lot, they lost by more than 20 points. So yeah it was a very effective strategy and their only way of winning. :facepalm

[Gus Hemmingway]

He's scared to post where he's from and who he roots for buahahahahaha

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Did you watch the Finals? Did you see what his field goal attempts and FG% was?

Don't you and a couple of other neckbeards regard that as one of the best finals performances ever?

Seems like the opinion of FG% is very "fluid" on this forum.

[aquaadverse]

Would any Heat fans want this?

Love + Mozgov isn't bad at all if used correctly

Nah. Wouldn't mind Mozgov, but Love and Bosh would be Charmin X 2.

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The game where mozgov scored 28 points and they played Thompson and Mozgov together a lot, they lost by more than 20 points. So yeah it was a very effective strategy and their only way of winning. :facepalm

You regard him as a GOAT level player right? He needs to find a way to optimize the teammates around him...period.

I give 2004, 2008 Lakers no excuses for those L's. Seems like Lebron fans are incapable of accepting losses.

[livinglegend]

You regard him as a GOAT level player right? He needs to find a way to optimize the teammates around him...period.

I give 2004, 2008 Lakers no excuses for those L's. Seems like Lebron fans are incapable of accepting losses.

Why are you changing the topic?
We were talking about how the playing thompson/mozgov together was/wasn't their best strategy to win the series.

[Straight_Ballin]

Don't you and a couple of other neckbeards regard that as one of the best finals performances ever?

Seems like the opinion of FG% is very "fluid" on this forum.

Whenever lebron's FG% is broken down into context and we analyze his individual fg% from various distances from the basket, his stans revert back to overall fg% to support whatever biased agenda they have atm. :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Don't you and a couple of other neckbeards regard that as one of the best finals performances ever?

Seems like the opinion of FG% is very "fluid" on this forum.

You said he was protecting his stats, specifically FG% which in regards to last years Finals is an absolute crock of shit. Dude was jacking up 30-35 shots every game on poor percentages, 3 times under 40%

[livinglegend]

You said he was protecting his stats, specifically FG% which in regards to last years Finals is an absolute crock of shit. Dude was jacking up 30-35 shots every game on poor percentages, 3 times under 40%

He can't keep up with his own arguments. :oldlol: :oldlol:
He will try to change the subject again.

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For the record, I think Lebron's performance in 2015 was more respectable than his finals performance in 2014.

But I think the last piece to Lebron's key to optimizing the players around him is to develop an off ball game that's conducive to winning...even if it means sacrificing his stats.

That's all I'm saying. Mozgov and TT are 2 of the decent big men in the league and trading them away won't cure all the Cavs problems when it comes to the Superior teams of the western conference.

Lebron Optimizes swing men in a unique way which usually includes getting them open shots on the perimeter. Once he's able to optimize his big men and put them in their comfortable positions to score, then the Cavs will truly be able to compete.

[Lebronxrings]

was surprised this thread hit 3 pages but then realized 3/4 are troll posts. :facepalm

Anyways forget the spacing, the defense is great. Lebron is also so good the offense will always be elite. Small ball isn't an issue considering whiteside can run the floor well and is one of the best defenders in basketball.

[Prime_Shaq]

was surprised this thread hit 3 pages but then realized 3/4 are troll posts. :facepalm

Anyways forget the spacing, the defense is great. Lebron is also so good the offense will always be elite. Small ball isn't an issue considering whiteside can run the floor well and is one of the best defenders in basketball.
Whiteside is a good shot blocker. Good shot blocker =/= good defender.

[el gringos]

30 million in salary traded for 5 million? Maybe that's why there's no discussion of that trade idea and the whole thread turned into these boys flirting with each other

If Miami doesn't get this guys bird rights then Cleveland wouldn't either. You're suggesting trading love and moz for a couple month rental. Terrible idea

[iBandwagon]

Why for heat? They get 2 pieces for whiteside and don't risk him going for nothing.

Why for cavs? Lebron finally gets a teammate that isn't trash and they get rid of unnecessary pieces. Green can be the energizer and would be great being a 3+d guy on the cavs (something they really want)

Cavs:
Irving/delly/mo
JR/shumpert
lebron/green
TT/rich
Whiteside/andy

I think it would be great for the cavs. Spacing is an issue but whiteside+ lebron is too dam good to give up.

Note: Heat and cavs would have to throw in some contracts for this work, but the main gist is love,moz for hassan,green,others.

I like that you avoided the fit for the Heat. Love + Bosh is a disaster waiting to happen.