Who was stronger

[Dr Hawk]

Barkley, Ben Walalce or KMalone

[Im Still Ballin]

Barkley is like Fat kid in grade school strong

Either Malone or Wallace

It's actually really hard to say

It would be really close

[FatComputerNerd]

Kevin Willis

[Dr Hawk]

Kevin Willis

No

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/5790659/img/5790659.png

[StephHamann]

Karl Malone is a fisher and hunter, i think he could take a mountain lion

[feyki]

Barkley . Who was best freak ? Ben Wallace . Who had best work ethic and health ? Karl Malone .

[Harison]

Probably Malone, but Big Ben is right up there as well. Barkley isnt in the conversation.

[dhsilv]

I'd wager it was wallace and not even close which is saying something as those were not two weak guys. Wallace was a freak of nature.

[Kobe_6/8]

Ben Wallace. He had a 39 inch vertical, Malone only had 28. Barkley doesn't compare.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Ben Wallace. He had a 39 inch vertical, Malone only had 28. Barkley doesn't compare.

Malone had a below the poverty line vertical. Wallace's vert as a 6'7" center.

:biggums:

[stalkerforlife]

Malone.

Dude is a semi-truck.

[90sgoat]

Probably Malone but each of those guys is strong as an ox.

[JohnMax]

Wilt Chamberlain

[TaLvsCuaL]

What about Shaq? In my opinion He is the biggest freak of all time

[LoneyROY7]

Karl Malone is the 2nd highest scorer in the history of the NBA with a sub 30 vertical jump.

:applause:

[dhsilv]

What about Shaq? In my opinion He is the biggest freak of all time

Shaq imo wasn't that strong pound for pound. Wallace was pound for pound about as strong as you can possible be. Malone is more impressive looking i guess, not really sure about that to be honest, but wallace's defense at his size tells me that strength was a HUGE factor for his success.

[feyki]

What about Shaq? In my opinion He is the biggest freak of all time

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WZIp4daEO1I

I don't understand what we talking about ? Strong or athleticism ?

[TaLvsCuaL]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WZIp4daEO1I

I don't understand what we talking about ? Strong or athleticism ?
Strong has multiple definitions, and lifting is not the only one. Shaq is the stronger NBA player ever IMO.

[Marchesk]

Karl Malone is the 2nd highest scorer in the history of the NBA with a sub 30 vertical jump.

Is that off one or two feet?

[AngelEyes]

Barkley was a force of nature. It was like they dropped an NFL player into the NBA. He was probably every bit as strong as Wallace and Malone. Just watch old highlights of him posting up taller players and just abusing the shit out of them.

[feyki]

Strong has multiple definitions, and lifting is not the only one. Shaq is the stronger NBA player ever IMO.

I don't think Shaq is the strongest in nba history . But he's one of them . Lifting is most important point in who is stronger . Body strong , balance are important too . Shaq probably had greatest balance and one of the greatest body strong in nba history .

[AngelEyes]

Honestly Barkley probably had a significantly more powerful lower body than either Malone or Wallace.

[SexSymbol]

Big ben.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

KMalone > BWallace >> Barkley

[BarberSchool]

In terms of raw bench press numbers or curl numbers, definitely Karl Malone.

Squats likely Barkley.

Ben Wallace would win on lateral raises.

Usable strength during rebounding positioning, Barkley wins, due to core and hip and thigh/ass strength superiority.

Grabbing and clearing the ball during the airborne portion of a rebound, Wallace.

Sheer PSI of force when Dunking, punching, or pushing, Malone.

[BarberSchool]

:no:
Honestly Barkley probably had a significantly more powerful lower body than either Malone or Wallace.and this is why head to head he would out rebound both of them. Despite being smaller and havin a weaker upper body.

[highwhey]

What about Shaq? In my opinion He is the biggest freak of all time
http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2006/pistons/pistonsheat05312006/16.jpg

[raprap]

Big Ben.

[Kobe_6/8]

In terms of raw bench press numbers or curl numbers, definitely Karl Malone.

Squats likely Barkley.

Ben Wallace would win on lateral raises.

Usable strength during rebounding positioning, Barkley wins, due to core and hip and thigh/ass strength superiority.

Grabbing and clearing the ball during the airborne portion of a rebound, Wallace.

Sheer PSI of force when Dunking, punching, or pushing, Malone.

What about deadlift? Curry can do 400.

[BarberSchool]

What about deadlift? Curry can do 400.Barkley would win deadlift. His thigh and butt strength when he weighed 300-310 on philly was just flat out stronger than the narrower hips and less thunder thighs or the other two. Wallace appears to have a stronger back than Malone, so deadlift I put Malone last. Despite Malone having the most sheer arm strength.

[dhsilv]

Strong has multiple definitions, and lifting is not the only one. Shaq is the stronger NBA player ever IMO.

strong when talking about athletes is and has always been best measured by lifting....though not the bench press, never the bench press.

[dhsilv]

What about deadlift? Curry can do 400.

I think all of these guys with training are going to be over 600, 500 is generally considered the min to call someone strong in gym terms.

[BarberSchool]

Shaq imo wasn't that strong pound for pound. Wallace was pound for pound about as strong as you can possible be. Malone is more impressive looking i guess, not really sure about that to be honest, but wallace's defense at his size tells me that strength was a HUGE factor for his success.pound for pound is such a little man's argument.

This thread wasn't about who was strongest pound for pound. It was about who was stronger, period. Wallace did get an awful lot of explosive strength out of his 6'7" 235 pound body. And don't argue, Ben himself told TNT he was only 6'7"

But even if you squeeze every ounce of strength you can out of 235-240 pounds, that is still woefully shy of Barkley's career between 260-310, and Malone career of a solid 265.

[JohnnySic]

Barkley had natural brute strength.

Wallace was likely on steroids. Malone probably was too.

[dhsilv]

pound for pound is such a little man's argument.

This thread wasn't about who was strongest pound for pound. It was about who was stronger, period. Wallace did get an awful lot of explosive strength out of his 6'7" 235 pound body. And don't argue, Ben himself told TNT he was only 6'7"

But even if you squeeze every ounce of strength you can out of 235-240 pounds, that is still woefully shy of Barkley's career between 260-310, and Malone career of a solid 265.

I do'nt buy for a second wallace was only 235 but even if he was, there's not a damn oz of excess body fat on him. He unquestionably has more lean mass than charles.

As for the pound for pound thing, the reason I bring that up is no an excuse or something, but to account of leverage which in the case of shaq he had a freakish amount of. That is not a function of strength but a function of just sheer size. It gives him similar advantages as raw power but it is different. I wanted to separate mass from strength as they can often get confused or combined incorrectly.

That is also not to say leverage and mass don't skew gym numbers which is still our best measure even if it's our best measure.

[BarberSchool]

I do'nt buy for a second wallace was only 235 but even if he was, there's not a damn oz of excess body fat on him. He unquestionably has more lean mass than charles.

As for the pound for pound thing, the reason I bring that up is no an excuse or something, but to account of leverage which in the case of shaq he had a freakish amount of. That is not a function of strength but a function of just sheer size. It gives him similar advantages as raw power but it is different. I wanted to separate mass from strength as they can often get confused or combined incorrectly.

That is also not to say leverage and mass don't skew gym numbers which is still our best measure even if it's our best measure.wallace's heaviest ever recorded weight in uniform was 240. Check the back of his basketball cards per year for his weights between 230-240. No way he had more lean mass than peak late 80's Barkley. In his deltoids and biceps maybe. Definitely not in his butt or legs.

You do make a good point about leverage though.

[BarberSchool]

Barkley had natural brute strength.

Wallace was likely on steroids. Malone probably was too.this too.

[HighFlyer23]

Ben Wallace is all upper body

I think the Chuckster might be the strongest in terms of brute strength

He didn't really have to "build" himself like Malone or Wallace

[ProfessorMurder]

Malone has farm strength. He wins. /thread

[dhsilv]

Ben Wallace is all upper body

I think the Chuckster might be the strongest in terms of brute strength

He didn't really have to "build" himself like Malone or Wallace

he was short and fat and had huge leverage advantages over other guy, and super human freaky athletic abilities.

As for ben being all upper body, just no. You don't play defense like he did without having powerful legs and a strong posterior chain.

[Straight_Ballin]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Rock-Shaq-Barkley.jpg

[AirBonner]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Rock-Shaq-Barkley.jpg
holy crap they make the rock look like a tiny dude :lol

[inclinerator]

malone, barkley, wallace

[Straight_Ballin]

Remember when Shaq thought he was big?

http://www.ewrestling.news/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Big-Show-Shaq.jpg

[G-train]

holy crap they make the rock look like a tiny dude :lol

Keep in mind the Rock claims to be 6'4.... Barkley is certified 6'5.

[G-train]

Pek would be the strongest IMO

[ISHGoat]

Pek would be the strongest IMO

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[diamenz]

malone
wallace
barkley

barkley isn't as far off as you'd think though - the core strength is there and that's what matters in the post.

[ProfessorMurder]

http://www.haterfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/enhanced-buzz-wide-14238-1336483552-2_crop_exact.jpg
Jesus Christ that guy is huge.

[highwhey]

malone
wallace
barkley

barkley isn't as far off as you'd think though - the core strength is there and that's what matters in the post.
Barkley could probably box out an ox

[Round Mound]

In terms of raw bench press numbers or curl numbers, definitely Karl Malone.

Squats likely Barkley.

Ben Wallace would win on lateral raises.

Usable strength during rebounding positioning, Barkley wins, due to core and hip and thigh/ass strength superiority.

Grabbing and clearing the ball during the airborne portion of a rebound, Wallace.

Sheer PSI of force when Dunking, punching, or pushing, Malone.

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