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tomtucker
01-18-2016, 02:51 PM
Spike Lee, Jada Pinkett Smith Call for Oscar Boycott

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni59396105/?ref_=nb_nwt_1


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[I]Despite receiving an honorary Oscar at last year

BasedTom
01-18-2016, 02:54 PM
he shouldn't have even been invited

not when he's making dogshit like Chi-raq

HitandRun Reggie
01-18-2016, 02:58 PM
I didn't realize either was still relevant. :confusedshrug:

UK2K
01-18-2016, 02:59 PM
Chris Rock ✔ @chrisrock
The #Oscars. The White BET Awards.
6:03 PM - 15 Jan 2016

Imagine... Kevin Love tweeting:


The ESPYs. The Black Oscars.

Imagine the uproar. Rock even hints at it in his tweet... the White BET Awards, as in, the BET awards are for blacks and blacks only, but yet, you are mad because Will Smith didn't get nominated for a movie nobody went to see?

TheSilentKiller
01-18-2016, 03:01 PM
Imagine... Kevin Love tweeting:



Imagine the uproar. Rock even hints at it in his tweet... the White BET Awards, as in, the BET awards are for blacks and blacks only, but yet, you are mad because Will Smith didn't get nominated for a movie nobody went to see?
lmao that's a terrible comparison.

UK2K
01-18-2016, 03:03 PM
lmao that's a terrible comparison.

White people tend to dominate that as well, I did my best. But, 90% of ESPY winners are black, minus the QB's who always win best NFL player.

bootsy
01-18-2016, 03:03 PM
[QUOTE=tomtucker]Spike Lee, Jada Pinkett Smith Call for Oscar Boycott

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni59396105/?ref_=nb_nwt_1


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Despite receiving an honorary Oscar at last year’s Governor’s Awards, Spike Lee posted on Instagram on Martin Luther King’s birthday Monday, saying he and his wife would not be attending the Oscar ceremony.

Lee’s statement said, “We Cannot Support It And Mean No Disrespect To My Friends, Host Chris Rock and Producer Reggie Hudlin, President Isaacs And The Academy. But, How Is It Possible For The 2nd Consecutive Year All 20 Contenders Under The Actor Category Are White? And Let’s Not Even Get Into The Other Branches. 40 White Actors In 2 Years And No Flava At All. We Can’t Act?! Wtf!!”
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:biggums:
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maybe there just aren

Godzuki
01-18-2016, 03:05 PM
i hate spike lee but honestly the Academy committee fukkin suck too. sad thing is knowing them PC follower fgts they'll probably give black actors and movies 3//4's of the nominations next year solely based on this call out. thats how lame, weak minded PC, and follower types the Academy and the like minded are :coleman:

bootsy
01-18-2016, 03:06 PM
Imagine... Kevin Love tweeting:



Imagine the uproar. Rock even hints at it in his tweet... the White BET Awards, as in, the BET awards are for blacks and blacks only, but yet, you are mad because Will Smith didn't get nominated for a movie nobody went to see?
Imagine Kevin Love tweeting that: :facepalm WTF are you talking about. I didn't realize the ESPY's only rewarded blacks. There is some stupidity in this thread, first from the OP and now you.

And that comparison about the BET Awards, again WTF are you talking there. Man just stop.

DonDadda59
01-18-2016, 03:30 PM
Personally, I have no idea what they hope to accomplish with a 'boycott'. Instead of that they should use their millions of dollars, their connections/influence to foster the next generation of minority filmmakers and actors. There are plenty of Ryan Cooglers out there waiting to be discovered.

Jada and her husband 9 times out of 10 take roles that were originally written with White actors in mind anyway. Why not use their resources to find and foster Black/Latino/Asian/etc talent that can legitimately compete for Oscars. Produce their films, connect them with their contacts (producers, etc), and maybe do a cameo in their projects to help raise their profile.

And Spike... Spike just needs to stop making shit films. :lol

SugarHill
01-18-2016, 03:32 PM
Spike is a dumbass but he's not entirely wrong. Who cares about the awards anyway

UK2K
01-18-2016, 03:40 PM
Imagine Kevin Love tweeting that: :facepalm WTF are you talking about. I didn't realize the ESPY's only rewarded blacks. There is some stupidity in this thread, first from the OP and now you.

And that comparison about the BET Awards, again WTF are you talking there. Man just stop.

And I didn't realize the Oscars only awarded whites. Chris Rock seems to think so.

Now you see the comparison? Or nah?

senelcoolidge
01-18-2016, 04:27 PM
Well maybe blacks should make better movies :confusedshrug: . Plus these awards are BS.

ThePhantomCreep
01-18-2016, 04:33 PM
There are obviously much bigger racists out there, but the OP doesn't want to call out any kindred spirits:

http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2015/07/19/HaberDetay/1437318885343.jpg

SexSymbol
01-18-2016, 05:12 PM
I can't think of a single oscar worthy performance by a black actor this year.

UK2K
01-18-2016, 05:13 PM
I can't think of a single oscar worthy performance by a black actor this year.

THATS NOT THE ****ING POINT SS!

THE POINT IS, BLACKS MAKE UP 12% OF THE POPULATION, THEY NEED 12% OF THE NOMINEES. BOTTOM LINE.

What's this 'deserving' shit you're talking about? It's not about an Oscar worthy performance, at all.

~primetime~
01-18-2016, 05:34 PM
Yeah in order to take Spike seriously he needs to let everyone know what black actors got snubbed.

ROCSteady
01-18-2016, 05:42 PM
Spike will be a great interview once he's even more old and senile.

Jada Smith is insignificant to even care if her dumb ass doesn't go to the Oscars. Will's accent in Concussion sounded ridiculous

Godzuki
01-18-2016, 06:41 PM
LOL just saw Jada calling it racist Will wasn't nominated for Concussion :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

he sounded like such a try hard african the previews were cringy as fukk :coleman:

furthermore only a bunch of corny mf'ers overly into sports went to see a movie about concussions...i mean can u make a movie on a more boring topic?? :facepalm

nightprowler10
01-18-2016, 06:46 PM
Yeah in order to take Spike seriously he needs to let everyone know what black actors got snubbed.
Yeah I'll side with him if he comes up with legit arguments. But we all know he won't.

ROCSteady
01-18-2016, 06:48 PM
Jada is a dumb B!tch. She is pretty much a nobody when it comes to movies now a days anyway.

Best role she's had in ages was an OTT lounge crime boss in a Fox series.

Nobody in Hollywood would give a shit about her absence

ROCSteady
01-18-2016, 08:44 PM
The funny thing is the whole 'White Oscars' thing would still be perpetuated if Oscar Isaac or Javier Bardem or somebody Hispanic or Asian would have been nominated.

Film journalists need to stop writing about 'lack of diversity' and just call it like it is . . . Spike mad because there are no BLACK actors nominated.

Somehow, every representation issue in the country is always simplified to Black and White

24-Inch_Chrome
01-18-2016, 08:45 PM
Jada is a dumb B!tch. She is pretty much a nobody when it comes to movies now a days anyway.

Best role she's had in ages was an OTT lounge crime boss in a Fox series.

Nobody in Hollywood would give a shit about her absence
Fish Mooney in Gotham? :applause:

ROCSteady
01-18-2016, 08:46 PM
Yea I mean that's the only attention she's gotten recently in terms of large roles

9erempiree
01-18-2016, 08:54 PM
Still waiting on the list of Black actors deserving of such nomination?

We recently had 12 Years a Slave nominated for many categories and people still want to complain?

Also...Jamie Foxx....Cuba Gooding Jr.....all have won in most recent memory.

BasedTom
01-18-2016, 09:05 PM
There are obviously much bigger racists out there, but the OP doesn't want to call out any kindred spirits:

http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2015/07/19/HaberDetay/1437318885343.jpg
man they dress like shit. fcking redneck-americans

I'm embarrassed for them

oarabbus
01-18-2016, 09:07 PM
Idris Elba would have been a worthy nominee for supporting actor. I didn't see Creed but Michael B. Jordan apparently had a great performance.

Anyway Ridley Scott not nominated for Best Director is the biggest snub of this year by far, much worse than any black actors not getting nominated

senelcoolidge
01-18-2016, 09:31 PM
Ice cube Jr.
Jada Smith was in Magic Mike XXL...she should have at least been nominated for that.
The movie "Dope".
I mean there is a well full of deserving black actors and films.

poido123
01-18-2016, 10:18 PM
man they dress like shit. fcking redneck-americans

I'm embarrassed for them



Shhhh


This is definative proof that there's a white agenda and they are all racist :oldlol:

outbreak
01-18-2016, 11:09 PM
Why is spike lee famous? I'm yet to see a movie he's done that was even half decent.

LJJ
01-18-2016, 11:29 PM
Why is spike lee famous? I'm yet to see a movie he's done that was even half decent.

You never saw Do The Right Thing (1989)? It's a masterpiece.

Since then he's mostly coasted, making enjoyable but mediocre movies up until 10 or so years ago. Now his movies are complete garbage and he's become a joke in the community. Sad to see really.

Nick Young
01-18-2016, 11:38 PM
The funny thing is the whole 'White Oscars' thing would still be perpetuated if Oscar Isaac or Javier Bardem or somebody Hispanic or Asian would have been nominated.

Those guys are both white. Bardem is Spanish. Spaniards are white.:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

ROCSteady
01-18-2016, 11:47 PM
Those guys are both white. Bardem is Spanish. Spaniards are white.:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

Oscar Issac is from Guatemala you fvckface.

tomtucker
01-19-2016, 04:34 AM
Wow he's a racist oh wait the biggest racist in America because he's boycotting an awards show where he got screwed for one of the best movies of the last 30 years, Do The Right Thing, and now the Oscars don't recognize non-white actors? OK you are a dumbass. Stop posting stupid shit. You don't know what a racist is.

uhh, spike lee only makes movies with black actors, and if there is any whites in them, they are most of the time the bad guys

BasedTom
01-19-2016, 04:45 AM
Oscar Issac is from Guatemala you fvckface.
That doesn't change anything.

You are aware that there are white people all around the world right? Being from a Hispanic country isn't mutually exclusive with being white or black or whatever race/ethnicity it is that you are.

hell look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Jamaicans

Godzuki
01-19-2016, 05:17 AM
You never saw Do The Right Thing (1989)? It's a masterpiece.

Since then he's mostly coasted, making enjoyable but mediocre movies up until 10 or so years ago. Now his movies are complete garbage and he's become a joke in the community. Sad to see really.


do the righ4 thing is FAR from a masterpiece. mostly only to racist black people. its overrated as fukk tbh

most people who watch it now would be like 'mustve beena weak era' :coleman:

Godzuki
01-19-2016, 05:25 AM
uhh, spike lee only makes movies with black actors, and if there is any whites in them, they are most of the time the bad guys

its typical double standard black guy who has no problem with blacks using racist language at others but is lecturing QT for using the N word in his movies. hes incredibly overrated :facepalm

Graviton
01-19-2016, 05:39 AM
Can someone explain to me how "Do the right thing" is a good movie?

2 retards walk into the pizza spot and start yelling at the owner for not having any black people on his wall, who happens to be Italian so he puts famous Italians in his own store. They keep yelling at him and refuse to leave, he calls the cops, cops end up killing a resisting idiot, the "people" in protest rise up and burn down the pizza place even though it had absolutely nothing to do with that death. Was that the "right thing to do"? What's even worse is they try to burn down the Korean guys business afterwards. Like wtf, how about go burn down the police station if you are so angry.

Imagine that movie in this day and age, 2 red necks walk into a Chinese restaurant and demand the owner put Walker Texas Ranger and Johnny Cash posters on his wall, he calls the cops, they end up killing one of the guys so the trailer park community burns down the business. Everyone would call it racist and demand the director be forever banished from Hollywood.

UK2K
01-19-2016, 05:43 AM
LOL just saw Jada calling it racist Will wasn't nominated for Concussion :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

he sounded like such a try hard african the previews were cringy as fukk :coleman:

furthermore only a bunch of corny mf'ers overly into sports went to see a movie about concussions...i mean can u make a movie on a more boring topic?? :facepalm
That's what i mean.

Nobody gives a **** about concussions.

We all know what it is, and we've all had several in our lives, we don't need to see a movie on it.

step_back
01-19-2016, 06:40 AM
Spike lee and Will Smith are at best average at what they do. Neither has produced anything Oscar worthy in their careers.

poido123
01-19-2016, 06:44 AM
Don Dadda would argue that he is the "product of white brutality" :oldlol:

Dresta
01-19-2016, 09:49 AM
Didn't that shit-heap "12 Years a Slave" win a bunch of Oscars? I can't remember because this stuff hasn't been worth following for a long time.

That one was basically a Sexploitation film pretending to be serious. Was just constant cringe, start to finish, from the first lashing to the final emergence of Brad Pitt-as-saviour.

ROCSteady
01-19-2016, 11:40 AM
I love the segment on Howard Stern where he & Robin dogs Will & Jada :oldlol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3DiKzSisEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbWP591zPgM

Godzuki
01-19-2016, 12:30 PM
That's what i mean.

Nobody gives a **** about concussions.

We all know what it is, and we've all had several in our lives, we don't need to see a movie on it.


its dumb as fukk what a lot of producers make movies about these days.

the concussion thing is such a sports writer pretentious serious thing issue most others could give a fukk about. to actually go, pay, and watch a movie exaggerating it is something only the truly boring lives who live sports fads would do :coleman:

UK2K
01-19-2016, 12:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9eY-kKXBnQ#t Aunt Viv exposing on Will and Jada. :eek:

"My deal's my deal. Ya'll deal's ya'll deals" - Will, 25-26 years ago on the Fresh Prince.

Now the Smiths have their own production company and are only producing movies for their friends and family.

Yup, Aunt Viv went in on her.

She said it best, Jada Smith has a production company that only works with people she chooses, yet, she's going to get upset because no black actors were good enough to get nominated?

These people are the ones who sit around waiting for the nominations so they can scan the names to count up how many blacks were nominated, like it really ****ing matters.

Godzuki
01-19-2016, 12:47 PM
Can someone explain to me how "Do the right thing" is a good movie?

2 retards walk into the pizza spot and start yelling at the owner for not having any black people on his wall, who happens to be Italian so he puts famous Italians in his own store. They keep yelling at him and refuse to leave, he calls the cops, cops end up killing a resisting idiot, the "people" in protest rise up and burn down the pizza place even though it had absolutely nothing to do with that death. Was that the "right thing to do"? What's even worse is they try to burn down the Korean guys business afterwards. Like wtf, how about go burn down the police station if you are so angry.

Imagine that movie in this day and age, 2 red necks walk into a Chinese restaurant and demand the owner put Walker Texas Ranger and Johnny Cash posters on his wall, he calls the cops, they end up killing one of the guys so the trailer park community burns down the business. Everyone would call it racist and demand the director be forever banished from Hollywood.

exactly. its so hypocritical for that nappy headed midget to call others out for racism when he's racist as fukk.

spike lee is incredibly overrated but for some retard reason he is considered some goat director in black people circles. his movies are horrible.

Just2McFly
01-19-2016, 04:58 PM
I see their point. This thread is pure cringe tho and spike lee is a racist how? What position of power is he in ? These just show how ish is full of knuckleheads, but keep crying like usually.

UK2K
01-19-2016, 05:06 PM
I see their point. This thread is pure cringe tho and spike lee is a racist how? What position of power is he in ? These just show how ish is full of knuckleheads, but keep crying like usually.

You need to be in a position of power to be racist?

If you are, unsure, of whether or not Spike Lee is racist...

Well... OK then.

I see it like this... he can't complain about shit until a white person wins a BET award. You already have YOUR VERY OWN AWARDS SHOW, STRICTLY FOR BLACKS, but that's not good enough? Damn, dude wants the world.

As is typical of every left-wing weirdo fighting for 'equality', they want equal equal results, not equal treatment.

catch24
01-19-2016, 05:08 PM
I see their point. This thread is pure cringe tho and spike lee is a racist how? What position of power is he in ? These just show how ish is full of knuckleheads, but keep crying like usually.

You don't have to be in a position of power to be racist, although Spike Lee's voice resonates within many I assume because of his platform.

DonDadda59
01-19-2016, 05:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9eY-kKXBnQ#t Aunt Viv exposing on Will and Jada. :eek:

"My deal's my deal. Ya'll deal's ya'll deals" - Will, 25-26 years ago on the Fresh Prince.

Now the Smiths have their own production company and are only producing movies for their friends and family.

A) She's still clearly very bitter about how everything went down on the Fresh Prince all those years ago. And she clearly still has a personal vendetta against Will.

B) She is 1000% right in everything she said. Will and Jada are one of the few people of color in the film industry who could actually make a difference but they use that power to force their untalented and annoying kids on the public. And Jada is only pushing this issue because her husband was passed over for a nomination he didn't deserve. Comes off as completely disingenuous.


Don Dadda would argue that he is the "product of white brutality" :oldlol:

With the amount of Ls you've taken the past few days I'm amazed you have the nerve to show your sickle cell hairline anywhere on the internet.

The wife know about you trying to score one night stands on shady websites? :confusedshrug:

BasedTom
01-19-2016, 05:19 PM
This is the head of the Academy btw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Boone_Isaacs

On July 30, 2013 she was elected as the 35th president of AMPAS.[1] Boone Isaacs is the first African American to hold this office, and the third woman (after Bette Davis and Fay Kanin).[2][3]

I don't understand this protest.

Just2McFly
01-19-2016, 05:22 PM
You need to be in a position of power to be racist?

If you are, unsure, of whether or not Spike Lee is racist...

Well... OK then.

I see it like this... he can't complain about shit until a white person wins a BET award. You already have YOUR VERY OWN AWARDS SHOW, STRICTLY FOR BLACKS, but that's not good enough? Damn, dude wants the world.

As is typical of every left-wing weirdo fighting for 'equality', they want equal equal results, not equal treatment.
What am I reading?

When did spike lee become affiliated with BET? Just because he's black? Just group us all together then , yes.

Oh and sam smith won a bet award last year. You guys are trifling sometimes. This is why I just read and don't respond most of the time.

UK2K
01-19-2016, 05:29 PM
What am I reading?

When did spike lee become affiliated with BET? Just because he's black? Just group us all together then , yes.

Oh and sam smith won a bet award last year. You guys are trifling sometimes. This is why I just read and don't respond most of the time.

I never said he was. I simply, factually, stated that there is an entire awards show (and channel) devoted solely to giving a voice to those of a certain skin (his) color, so he doesn't have much room to bitch about perceived racism..

And Sam Smith doesn't even count :lol he's not even American. That's like saying Iggy won a BET award so its not racist anymore. :lol

The fact that you believe BET is not racist tells me all I need to know, cause I think a channel called White Entertainment Television would be racist as ****.

DonDadda59
01-19-2016, 05:32 PM
^Dondada... yeah, she still holds a grudge from being fired because she didn't get along with Will 25 years ago. :lol

If what she is saying is true, then it's a pretty f*cked up thing that Will did. Like she brought up the 'White shows' that gave their stars huge raises (Friends, Seinfeld, etc). One of the main reasons they got those massive pay bumps is because they negotiated as a unit, not individually.

I remember a few years ago reading about James Gandolfini negotiating a big pay raise when the Sopranos became a surprise hit. The producers offered him $1 million per episode but he refused to accept it unless the other main actors got the same raise. He used his power and influence to make sure everyone benefited, not just himself.

If Will pulled the "My deal's my deal. Ya'll deal's ya'll deals" bit like she claims... Then yeah, she has pretty good reason to still be bitter. It's not like NBC couldn't afford a raise for Uncle Phil, Aunt Viv, Carlton, Ashley, and Hillary too. The show was a hit and the network was a titan in the 90s.

KyrieTheFuture
01-19-2016, 09:17 PM
Wow. Finally played 2k16 for the first time and tried to do MyCareer. I hate Spike Lee so much more now.

Charlie Sheen
01-20-2016, 10:54 AM
Personally, I have no idea what they hope to accomplish with a 'boycott'. Instead of that they should use their millions of dollars, their connections/influence to foster the next generation of minority filmmakers and actors. There are plenty of Ryan Cooglers out there waiting to be discovered.

Jada and her husband 9 times out of 10 take roles that were originally written with White actors in mind anyway. Why not use their resources to find and foster Black/Latino/Asian/etc talent that can legitimately compete for Oscars. Produce their films, connect them with their contacts (producers, etc), and maybe do a cameo in their projects to help raise their profile.

And Spike... Spike just needs to stop making shit films. :lol

Aunt Viv went in on the Smiths. Saying pretty much the same thing you did here :applause:

:lol I should have read more than the first page. This was already discussed

Jameerthefear
01-20-2016, 11:00 AM
What am I reading?

When did spike lee become affiliated with BET? Just because he's black? Just group us all together then , yes.

Oh and sam smith won a bet award last year. You guys are trifling sometimes. This is why I just read and don't respond most of the time.
he's a racist just stop responding to him

Charlie Sheen
01-20-2016, 11:25 AM
I never said he was. I simply, factually, stated that there is an entire awards show (and channel) devoted solely to giving a voice to those of a certain skin (his) color, so he doesn't have much room to bitch about perceived racism..

And Sam Smith doesn't even count :lol he's not even American. That's like saying Iggy won a BET award so its not racist anymore. :lol

The fact that you believe BET is not racist tells me all I need to know, cause I think a channel called White Entertainment Television would be racist as ****.

What is racist about BET? The name? You're wound up kinda tight over this.... loosen up

UK2K
01-20-2016, 11:38 AM
Wow. Finally played 2k16 for the first time and tried to do MyCareer. I hate Spike Lee so much more now.

Absolutely ruined the game.

By default, my player sounds like he has a third grade education and speaks in ebonics. Even when he's a white dude.

"A Spike Lee joint"

Who the **** thought thatd be a good idea?

UK2K
01-20-2016, 11:39 AM
What is racist about BET? The name? You're wound up kinda tight over this.... loosen up

Would White Entertainment Television be racist? Would Miss White America be racist? The United Caucasian College Fund.

Apparently, not to you.

This is just my personal belief, but I don't think excluding people based on their race (as BET would suggest) is a good thing. You feel differently? That's cool, that's your opinion, and you're not right or wrong. But to me... it seems racist as ****.

Charlie Sheen
01-20-2016, 11:45 AM
Would White Entertainment Television be racist? Would Miss White America be racist?

Apparently, not to you.

Is this what racism is to you? We're worlds apart here.

Edit: You see it as exclusion, and I see it as a platform for greater opportunity than gangster#3 roles.

NumberSix
01-20-2016, 02:07 PM
Is this what racism is to you? We're worlds apart here.

Edit: You see it as exclusion, and I see it as a platform for greater opportunity than gangster#3 roles.
Nobody is forcing black people not to make movies. People make independent movies all over the place.

I don't get this mentality of people demanding that somebody else should create the platform that offers them the exact opportunity that they want. It's like me bitching that nobody created a TV station that offers me an opportunity to have a TV show where I talk about leftists and discuss financial issues while strippers dance in the background, then I complain that I'm being "excluded" by CNN and Fox News.

If you're a black actor and you believe that there aren't any scripts with the particular roles you would like, then fcuking write a script yourself. But no, we have people who want other people to do all the work and just hand oscar winning roles to them on a silver platter. It's not gonna happen. People write the scripts that they want to write. They don't write a script for the purpose of getting Jada Pinkett an oscar. If that's the script she wants, she should starting writing.

Charlie Sheen
01-21-2016, 08:50 AM
Nobody is forcing black people not to make movies. People make independent movies all over the place.

I don't get this mentality of people demanding that somebody else should create the platform that offers them the exact opportunity that they want. It's like me bitching that nobody created a TV station that offers me an opportunity to have a TV show where I talk about leftists and discuss financial issues while strippers dance in the background, then I complain that I'm being "excluded" by CNN and Fox News.

If you're a black actor and you believe that there aren't any scripts with the particular roles you would like, then fcuking write a script yourself. But no, we have people who want other people to do all the work and just hand oscar winning roles to them on a silver platter. It's not gonna happen. People write the scripts that they want to write. They don't write a script for the purpose of getting Jada Pinkett an oscar. If that's the script she wants, she should starting writing.

I'm lost. I didn't say black people were being excluded from anything. I'm not black and have never been black for a day of my life. I couldn't tell you if BET is even a platform a black actor wants. All I said was it creates greater...probably should have said wider...opportunity based entirely off stuff a trying to be actor neighbor of mine has told to me.

Dresta
01-21-2016, 09:11 AM
I'm lost. I didn't say black people were being excluded from anything. I'm not black and have never been black for a day of my life. I couldn't tell you if BET is even a platform a black actor wants. All I said was it creates greater...probably should have said wider...opportunity based entirely off stuff a trying to be actor neighbor of mine has told to me.
:lol

Not even one? Damn...

UK2K
01-21-2016, 09:50 AM
Is this what racism is to you? We're worlds apart here.

Edit: You see it as exclusion, and I see it as a platform for greater opportunity than gangster#3 roles.

They need their own platform? Why do you feel they can't compete on the same platform as everyone else?

Its similar to affirmative action. Isn't it disparaging and demeaning to tell people they can't compete on the same playing field, so we have to make a special field that only applies to them in order to make them equal?

If we were in a room with 20 people, and a test was handed out, and all 19 of us got the same advanced trig test, but because you're too dumb, your test is your A-B-C's, would you not feel embarrassed? Ashamed? Pissed off because someone told you that you are not capable of competing on the same level as everyone else?

I know I would.

It's not exclusion, but it is preferential treatment because, again in your opinion, they need an ADDITIONAL platform specifically for them on top of the one that everyone else shares, because they aren't good enough.

aj1987
01-21-2016, 10:16 AM
With the amount of Ls you've taken the past few days I'm amazed you have the nerve to show your sickle cell hairline anywhere on the internet.

The wife know about you trying to score one night stands on shady websites? :confusedshrug:
Jesus Christ! That's an elephant sized shit you took on that dude. :oldlol:

dazzer87
01-21-2016, 12:24 PM
Yup, Aunt Viv went in on her.

She said it best, Jada Smith has a production company that only works with people she chooses, yet, she's going to get upset because no black actors were good enough to get nominated?

These people are the ones who sit around waiting for the nominations so they can scan the names to count up how many blacks were nominated, like it really ****ing matters.
Damn truth here. Jada Smith just pissed off that her shitty husband of a actor didnt get nominated for that crappy acting performance he did in Concussion

Terahite
01-21-2016, 12:51 PM
Spike Lee blows, let's be real. Actor Faizon Love already called him out for his shitty casting of himself in Malcolm X and DTRT which nearly ruined those movies. Egotistical little film school bitch. :lol

Nanners
01-21-2016, 03:13 PM
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2016/01/film-and-race

spike lee is a moron

AceManIII
01-21-2016, 06:29 PM
http://www.kappit.com/img/uploads/20150109_101612_.png

Jameerthefear
01-21-2016, 06:41 PM
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2016/01/film-and-race

spike lee is a moron
did u even read the article u posted?

DonDadda59
01-21-2016, 07:15 PM
Aunt Viv went in on the Smiths. Saying pretty much the same thing you did here :applause:

:lol I should have read more than the first page. This was already discussed

It's basic common sense, really. Like most industries, nepotism and cronyism rules the film industry. There's probably no place the old adage 'it's not what you know, but who you know' rings more true than Hollywood. Perfect example...

At this point everyone knows JJ Abrams, just directed the highest grossing domestic film ever yadda yadda yadda. But he was also the son of TV/film producers. But what really ensured his rise was this, according to an anecdote from Kathleen Kennedy:


It was funny. I was working with Steven, and I got a phone call one day. And this man was living in a house up on Lookout Mountain [in Arizona]. He'd been down in his basement, and he found this box covered in dust. And he said to me, “These are all home movies, and I think they belong to Steven Spielberg.” Now, my first cynical thought, unfortunately, was, you know, this is just somebody trying to get money. And so I’m going to not act overly excited about this. I just said, “Well, you know, great. If you don’t mind, we’re on the Universal lot. Maybe you could just swing by and drop the box off, and we’ll take a look and see if in fact they belong to Steven.” So I hang up the phone. The first thing I say to Steven is, “Did you ever live on Lookout Mountain?” He goes, “Yes, I did.” Now I'm thinking, Okay, this guy’s not making this up. So I said, “Well, somebody thinks they found your home movies.” He goes, “Oh, my God, you’re kidding!” And he had just assumed all these early Super 8 films he had made when he was 15, 16 years old were long gone. He’d lost them; he didn’t know where they were.

So this man arrives. Here’s the box. He couldn’t have been sweeter, couldn’t have been nicer. Drops off this box. Sure enough, Steven’s beside himself because here are all his old movies that he made. So ironically, I had picked up the L.A. Times that morning and read about these two kids who had won this film award, and their movies were being shown at the Nuart Theatre [in Los Angeles]. And I said to Steven, “You know what would be really great? Why don’t you hire these two kids who just won this film award, who would probably give anything to meet you, and they could clean up your movies and transfer them to tape so that we never run the risk of these movies disappearing again?” And those two kids were J.J. Abrams and Matt Reeves, who just did Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.

And they came in. They were 15, 16 years old. And they ended up doing exactly that, cleaning up the Super 8 movies, and we’ve all stayed great friends ever since. All our kids went to the same elementary school. We followed J.J.’s career, so when he committed to Star Wars, it was this kind of fantastic coincidence of fate, I guess—preordained destiny or something.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/kathleen-kennedys-great-story-about-how-jj-abrams-and-matt-reeves-met-steven-spielberg-as-teenagers-20150522


Now imagine if instead of giving a 15 year old JJ Abrams a shot to work with him from the ground floor and nurturing his career, Spielberg was like 'Nah, f*ck that. I'll let my untalented and phaggy son Jaden Spielberg handle it instead.'

Would Abrams have come anywhere remotely close to directing huge franchises like Star Wars/Star Trek? Maybe, but he probably had better odds of winning the powerball.

Instead of pouting about overrated Will not getting the Oscar nom he was pandering for (and let's be real, that's the whole basis of the 'boycott')... They should be doing what Spielberg did and still does- find and foster the next generation of talent that will be able to legitimately compete for the top jobs, awards, etc.

But no, instead we get this...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--MeG09aaD--/1332517513540904520.jpg

:facepalm

It's like, great you've identified a problem (even though it only became one because of petty personal reasons)... Yet instead of doing something about it, when you have all the resources and capital necessary... You just pout instead.

Charlie Sheen
01-21-2016, 09:42 PM
They need their own platform? Why do you feel they can't compete on the same platform as everyone else?

Its similar to affirmative action. Isn't it disparaging and demeaning to tell people they can't compete on the same playing field, so we have to make a special field that only applies to them in order to make them equal?

If we were in a room with 20 people, and a test was handed out, and all 19 of us got the same advanced trig test, but because you're too dumb, your test is your A-B-C's, would you not feel embarrassed? Ashamed? Pissed off because someone told you that you are not capable of competing on the same level as everyone else?

I know I would.

It's not exclusion, but it is preferential treatment because, again in your opinion, they need an ADDITIONAL platform specifically for them on top of the one that everyone else shares, because they aren't good enough.

I... don't understand the connection you're trying to make. BET afaik isn't black only. Fat Joe and Eminem got pla on that channel. I'm sure of this. Like I said, we're worlds apart on this. Have a good day, sir. :cheers:

ROCSteady
01-21-2016, 10:32 PM
What is the best and worst Spike Lee movie?

Best: 25th Hour
Honorable Mention: He Got Game


Worst: Bamboozled

At lot of people say She Hate Me was the worst but I disagree because the idea, while ridiculous, was amusing. I liked the lesbian performances and the sex scenes were entertaining. Kerry Washington was so sexy for it to be the worst.

AceManIII
01-21-2016, 11:36 PM
They need their own platform? Why do you feel they can't compete on the same platform as everyone else?

Its similar to affirmative action. Isn't it disparaging and demeaning to tell people they can't compete on the same playing field, so we have to make a special field that only applies to them in order to make them equal?

If we were in a room with 20 people, and a test was handed out, and all 19 of us got the same advanced trig test, but because you're too dumb, your test is your A-B-C's, would you not feel embarrassed? Ashamed? Pissed off because someone told you that you are not capable of competing on the same level as everyone else?

I know I would.

It's not exclusion, but it is preferential treatment because, again in your opinion, they need an ADDITIONAL platform specifically for them on top of the one that everyone else shares, because they aren't good enough.

Can you PLEASE stop regurgitating this?!?!?

American History did not begin in the year 2000.

There was open discrimination in the 1950s/1960s. Let me repeat, THERE WAS DISCRIMINATION IN PLAIN VIEW IN THE 1950s/1960s.

Expand your mind; imagine scoring the highest out of a possible 20 candidates, but not being considered AT ALL due to your skin color or gender...that was happening just 60-70 years ago.

Save the "don't answer a wrong with a wrong" response... First, truly admit it, past discrimination, was a wrong to yourself. SOMETHING had to be done...I do admit that while AA had a very nice initial purpose, it DOES have apparent flaws. But, AA still has its purpose and significance. It just needs to be modified and updated a tad.

But I believe, due to AA, minorities are happy just to be able to show they ARE good enough.

Norcaliblunt
01-22-2016, 12:24 AM
This is classic blacks vs jews.

Sameul L got snubbed for supporting actor in Pulp Fiction. Martin Landau was good in Ed Wood, also Johnny Depps best role, but Jackson was legendary.

ROCSteady
01-22-2016, 01:46 AM
Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption were both snubbed for Best Picture.

The Academy was just way off that year I guess. Shawshank got nothing, Forrest Gump took everything.

All Pulp Fiction won was Best Original Screenplay

longtime lurker
01-22-2016, 02:25 AM
OP failed to show how Spike lee is supposedly the biggest racist in America. Fvcking idiot

bladefd
01-22-2016, 03:53 AM
I can list some of the greatest movies ever that were snubbed since the beginning of oscars many decades ago. Oscars have been terrible at nominationing certain movies for very long time. It is not just this year that they decided to snub a few good movies.. this time it was Creed and Straight outta compton (creed more so with Michael b. Jordan).

Concussion was an average movie that didn't deserve an oscar..what other movies were there with black actors that were snubbed this year?

tomtucker
01-22-2016, 05:09 AM
OP failed to show how Spike lee is supposedly the biggest racist in America. Fvcking idiot

he only casts black folks in his movies........then cries foul whenever his black friends don't get oscars

Surprised he hasn't boycotted the NY Knicks now that their biggest star is white.

:D

Norcaliblunt
01-22-2016, 02:28 PM
Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption were both snubbed for Best Picture.

The Academy was just way off that year I guess. Shawshank got nothing, Forrest Gump took everything.

All Pulp Fiction won was Best Original Screenplay

That was just a very good year for mainstream films. All 3 of those movies are classic and some of my favorites. I can't really pick one over the other because they all offer something different.

ROCSteady
01-22-2016, 03:21 PM
That was just a very good year for mainstream films. All 3 of those movies are classic and some of my favorites. I can't really pick one over the other because they all offer something different.

Forrest Gump somehow won Best Editing, even with that ridiculous cross country running portion :wtf:

No problem with Hanks winning Best Actor, that was legit :applause:

Robert Zemeckis won Best Director over Tarantino, who made a movie out of chronological order which still was very well paced and easy to follow :confusedshrug:

Forrest Gump won Best Writing based on Previous Material even though they adapted a novel and deviated from Forrest's original character, stuffed in lots of subplots while Frank Darabont wrote a rich, comprehensive screenplay out of a short story :rant


I liked Forrest Gump a lot, it's obviously a classic, but it didn't deserve to beat two other legendary classics that often when it was obvious they were more worthy, especially in the subcategories.

Norcaliblunt
01-22-2016, 04:47 PM
Forrest Gump somehow won Best Editing, even with that ridiculous cross country running portion :wtf:

No problem with Hanks winning Best Actor, that was legit :applause:

Robert Zemeckis won Best Director over Tarantino, who made a movie out of chronological order which still was very well paced and easy to follow :confusedshrug:

Forrest Gump won Best Writing based on Previous Material even though they adapted a novel and deviated from Forrest's original character, stuffed in lots of subplots while Frank Darabont wrote a rich, comprehensive screenplay out of a short story :rant


I liked Forrest Gump a lot, it's obviously a classic, but it didn't deserve to beat two other legendary classics that often when it was obvious they were more worthy, especially in the subcategories.

Gump won for obvious reasons, it was a blockbuster epic that most everyone enjoyed at the time, young and old. Plus I think you are underestimating how innovative that film was technically. Putting Gump in historical situations talking to Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, among others. Lt. Dan's legs. Computer generated crowds. The ping pong sequences. The Vietnam War sequence. Etc.

Were Pulp Fiction and Shawshank better movies? Maybe/Probably. But to act like it is crazy that Gump got the best picture and director award is off base IMO.

T_L_P
01-23-2016, 09:26 AM
Jada's video made me feel sick. She's sat in her fcking mansion, with what I believe is an ivory tusk encased in the background, and she has the nerve to talk about "oppression"? :oldlol:

Spike's comments were stupid too. He's a truly gifted filmmaker (Chi-Raq was the best film of 2015 and When the Levees Broke may be the greatest documentary film of the past 30 or so years), but man he's such an attention seeker. This is a guy who remade a Korean film just to put a bunch of white actors in it.

tomtucker
01-23-2016, 12:58 PM
Jada's video made me feel sick. She's sat in her fcking mansion, with what I believe is an ivory tusk encased in the background, and she has the nerve to talk about "oppression"? :oldlol:

Spike's comments were stupid too. He's a truly gifted filmmaker (Chi-Raq was the best film of 2015 and When the Levees Broke may be the greatest documentary film of the past 30 or so years), but man he's such an attention seeker. This is a guy who remade a Korean film just to put a bunch of white actors in it.
ivory tusk..:facepalm :mad: ......it is probably from a elephant the smith family killed themselves.....ah yes, the hardship of only going on safari trips once a year.......hard times indeed

dude77
01-23-2016, 05:28 PM
Spike Lee Ditches Oscars for Lack of Diversity; Opts for Least Diverse Major Sports League Instead

first of all, spike lee is part white .. he's just a little insecure, self hating manlet troll .. and a hypocrite from the looks of that ^^ headline

Cocaine80s
01-23-2016, 09:36 PM
The OTC is the official breeding ground of cucks

Racist as hell but still love watching black men dominate their favorite sport :oldlol:

thefatmiral
01-23-2016, 09:47 PM
Most movies and TV shows are made with white cast makes sense the people who are nominated will be white
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/30000-hollywood-film-characters-heres-many-werent-white/

ALBballer
01-23-2016, 10:10 PM
Concussion was an average movie that didn't deserve an oscar..what other movies were there with black actors that were snubbed this year?

Dope was one of my favorite movies this year.

IMO Creed was good and entertaining and I wasn't a big fan of Straight Outta Compton which I found to be boring.