Right Wing Neo Nazis Terrorize Germany

[DonDadda59]

Why didn't this get as much coverage as the 'Rapefugee' story? :confusedshrug:

[INDENT]Hundreds of Neo-Nazis riot in Leipzig, Germany

http://www.dw.com/image/0,,18972567_303,00.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWCJzjVWwAA8CeX.png

Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkLKkNNW9MQ)

Amateur footage of aftermath (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgitV2Wurj8)

On Monday hundreds of organised right-wing extremists attacked a leftist meeting place, a Turkish restaurant, and homes in the city of Leipzig. The fascist terror took place as members of the far-right Pegida movement held a demonstration in the city.

The riot in Leipzig took place a day after four groups of foreigners were attacked Sunday in Cologne, the police said.

This wave of far-right violence is taking place amid a wave of racist hysteria spread by politicians and the media following alleged sexual attacks by immigrants in Cologne on New Years

[9erempiree]

Same reason why the media censored the rapefugees and now they are censoring these Neo Nazis.

[fiddy]

Nothing wrong with it.

/thread

[NumberSix]

Sounds made up.

[DonDadda59]

Nothing wrong with it.

/thread

But they're destroying Germany. Won't somebody please think of the children?! http://up.picr.de/21180493ap.png

[fiddy]

But they're destroying Germany. Won't somebody please think of the children?! http://up.picr.de/21180493ap.png
Not really, they are fighting PC oppression and retardation. Sometimes you have pick up a weapon to make stance, especially against policies and virtues that:
A: Dont belong to your country
B: Are destroying your country

[DonDadda59]

Not really, they are fighting PC oppression and retardation.

By throwing homemade bombs and rocks into stores and setting cars on fire? :durantunimpressed:


B: Are destroying your country

End the destruction of your country... By destroying your country.

I see you went to the Timothy McVeigh school of Philosophy. :applause:

[UK2K]

But they're destroying Germany. Won't somebody please think of the children?! http://up.picr.de/21180493ap.png

The German government didn't care before, what makes you think they should care now?

Its just space to destroy. Everyone needs space to destroy.


By throwing homemade bombs and rocks into stores and setting cars on fire? :durantunimpressed:



End the destruction of your country... By destroying your country.

I see you went to the Timothy McVeigh school of Philosophy. :applause:
That would be your local BLM chapter.

Kinda like, this my city, but Imma burn it down anyway, even though I won't have no where to get my Newports tomorrow.

That same mindset.

[9erempiree]

The German government didn't care before, what makes you think they should care now?

Its just space to destroy. Everyone needs space to destroy.


That would be your local BLM chapter.

Kinda like, this my city, but Imma burn it down anyway, even though I won't have no where to get my Newports tomorrow.

That same mindset.

I have to agree.

Germany is already covering up many stories and this particular story is no different. If the world sees this backlash from the German citizens then they would be aware of the consequences of letting these people in.

Also, these dumb Germans that are destroying their city is no different than these animals....
https://hoosierecon.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/fergusonriots1.jpg

[fiddy]

By throwing homemade bombs and rocks into stores and setting cars on fire? :durantunimpressed:



End the destruction of your country... By destroying your country.

I see you went to the Timothy McVeigh school of Philosophy. :applause:
When dialogue does not work, and your government blindly keeps up with politics that dont work, what do you have left? Even worse, your own government censors your intentions to help your country

[StephHamann]

Published by the International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI)

yooo, fight the power :rockon:

[ArbitraryWater]

Smacked a few of the Pegida movement in the mouff, told em to hush off.

[DonDadda59]

I have to agree.

Germany is already covering up many stories and this particular story is no different. If the world sees this backlash from the German citizens then they would be aware of the consequences of letting these people in.

Also, these dumb Germans that are destroying their city is no different than these animals....
https://hoosierecon.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/fergusonriots1.jpg

These patriots are fighting against PC and a tyrannical government. Just like the Germans.

Kraut Lives Matter. :applause:


Smacked a few of the Pegida movement in the mouff, told em to hush off.

So you're a Muslim who hates Germany. :mad:


When dialogue does not work, and your government blindly keeps up with politics that dont work, what do you have left? Even worse, your own government censors your intentions to help your country

Somewhere, Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is slow clapping while reading this. :applause:

[Nick Young]

The women of Germany have been raped en masse for months on end by foreign immigrants and the government is supporting the immigrants and telling the German people to smile and accept it because there's nothing they can do.


Seems like the Germans are finally snapping and reverting back to their default neo-nazi factory setting.

[ArbitraryWater]

These patriots are fighting against PC and a tyrannical government. Just like the Germans.

Kraut Lives Matter. :applause:

So you're a Muslim who hates Germany. :mad:

Somewhere, Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is slow clapping while reading this. :applause:

:oldlol:

apparently, yes

[ThePhantomCreep]

ISH reich-wingers deflecting like Jonathan Quick up in here.

All this thread needs is for Starface call for the euthanization of Africa. :oldlol:

If nothing else (and there's literally nothing else with these people) the ISH Youth defends its own.

[Trollsmasher]

civil defense:confusedshrug:

the goverment has lost the monopoly on violence and thus the ability to protect its citizens

[UK2K]

The articles posted on World Socialist Web Site are super not biased and very balanced.

:coleman:

[QUOTE]Republican debate: Deeper into the swamp of bigotry and militarism
By Patrick Martin
16 January 2016
Thursday night

[UK2K]

After searching through pages and pages of results, I found about 4 websites that actually posted a similar story to the OP, one of which was in Arabic.

Then I found this... Oh yes, OP, I found this:


A group broke away from the Legida demonstration and began smashing shop windows, burning cars and setting off fireworks that ignited the first floor of a building. Police said the leftists countered by setting a bus, chartered by Legida members, on fire.Although property damage was extensive, there were no reports of injury.

No shit, leftists were setting shit on fire too? No way.

[fiddy]

Smacked a few of the Pegida movement in the mouff, told em to hush off.
ISIS supporter is anti-europe, nothing new

[DonDadda59]

The women of Germany have been raped en masse for months on end by foreign immigrants and the government is supporting the immigrants and telling the German people to smile and accept it because there's nothing they can do.


Seems like the Germans are finally snapping and reverting back to their default neo-nazi factory setting.

Funny you should say that considering these sort of chimp outs have been going on LONG before this present refugee crisis.


The total number of potentially right extremist individuals in Germany was estimated by the Verfassungsschutz (Federal German intelligence) to 31,000 as of 2007, of which an estimated 10,000 were classified as potentially violent (gewaltbereit).[4] In 2011, the Verfassungsschutz reported a total of 25,000 right-wing extremists in Germany, including 5,600 neo-Nazis.[5] In the same report, 15.905 crimes committed in 2010 were classified as far-right motivated, compared to 18.750 in 2009; these crimes included 762 acts of violence in 2010 compared to 891 in 2009

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Germany



These dudes have the same man power as ISIS. :biggums:


The articles posted on World Socialist Web Site are super not biased and very balanced.

How do you feel about Der Spiegel? :confusedshrug:

[INDENT]Neo-Nazi Arsonists: Officials Concerned by Growing Far-Right Networks

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-888185-breitwandaufmacher-esld-888185.jpg
This year has seen a sharply increased number of attacks on asylum hostels in Germany, many of them perpetrated by right-wing extremists. Officials are concerned that neo-Nazi networks may be spreading across the country. By SPIEGEL Staff

It was April 16 when around 100 right-wing extremists marched through the small town of Nauen in the eastern German state of Brandenburg. Their message: "Nein zum Heim!" or "No to the Hostel!" They carried posters and German flags along with them. "Nauen Will Stay White!" read one. "Take Action!" read another.

One day later, employees of Mikado, a local youth center, found that the tires of the center's minibus had been slashed. There was a note under the windshield wiper reading: "Dear asylum friends, Tr

[HitandRun Reggie]

What idiots fail to understand is that while every nation deals with homegrown morons, the worst possible scenario is to import more malcontents. To deal with your own garbage is inevitable, to bring in more garbage is intolerable.

[poido123]

By throwing homemade bombs and rocks into stores and setting cars on fire? :durantunimpressed:



End the destruction of your country... By destroying your country.

I see you went to the Timothy McVeigh school of Philosophy. :applause:



Or allow the government to make poor decisions and sit back?


Nah.


The violence is misdirected but the Fustration is pretty clear.

I hope more people have the courage to do this and fight this unwanted invasion.

[poido123]

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Funny you should say that considering these sort of chimp outs have been going on LONG before this present refugee crisis.


The total number of potentially right extremist individuals in Germany was estimated by the Verfassungsschutz (Federal German intelligence) to 31,000 as of 2007, of which an estimated 10,000 were classified as potentially violent (gewaltbereit).[4] In 2011, the Verfassungsschutz reported a total of 25,000 right-wing extremists in Germany, including 5,600 neo-Nazis.[5] In the same report, 15.905 crimes committed in 2010 were classified as far-right motivated, compared to 18.750 in 2009; these crimes included 762 acts of violence in 2010 compared to 891 in 2009

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Germany



These dudes have the same man power as ISIS. :biggums:



How do you feel about Der Spiegel? :confusedshrug:

[INDENT]Neo-Nazi Arsonists: Officials Concerned by Growing Far-Right Networks

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-888185-breitwandaufmacher-esld-888185.jpg
This year has seen a sharply increased number of attacks on asylum hostels in Germany, many of them perpetrated by right-wing extremists. Officials are concerned that neo-Nazi networks may be spreading across the country. By SPIEGEL Staff

It was April 16 when around 100 right-wing extremists marched through the small town of Nauen in the eastern German state of Brandenburg. Their message: "Nein zum Heim!" or "No to the Hostel!" They carried posters and German flags along with them. "Nauen Will Stay White!" read one. "Take Action!" read another.

One day later, employees of Mikado, a local youth center, found that the tires of the center's minibus had been slashed. There was a note under the windshield wiper reading: "Dear asylum friends, Tr

[KNOW1EDGE]

Only black people are allowed to destroy their cities.

DonDodda hella pissed that these whites are trying to steal that BBC swag

[fiddy]

Only black people are allowed to destroy their cities.

DonDodda hella pissed that these whites are trying to steal that BBC swag
:lebronamazed:

[dunksby]

Who would have known, now we have Nazi sympathizers :applause:

[poido123]

:oldlol:
Who would have known, now we have Nazi sympathizers :applause:


No, not at all.


But I support this stance they take against the refugee BS.


DonDadda wants to highlight lack of media coverage for this, but conveniently ignores the media balckout on rapes and violence from refugees since coming in.


I find it hilarious that he thinks its only a small minority that are trouble. Up to 80% of the refugees are NOT war torn syrians. Which means the MAJORITY of these refugees are unscreened and trojan horsed in like ISIS declared. :oldlol:


Dondadda on that pro black panther, pro liberalist BS again :rolleyes:

[KNOW1EDGE]

Again, it's all good when blacks burn down cities and steal from their own when a black criminal gets shot by police.

But when innocent white people are ACTUALLY BEING VICTIMIZED, and their government doesn't help, so they take matters into their own hands, now the BLM think it's just the worst thing ever.

Black logic.

[fiddy]

:whatever:

Germany after WWII:

According to your brain dead logic, Germany destroyed itself during WW2?

[ArbitraryWater]

Again, it's all good when blacks burn down cities and steal from their own when a black criminal gets shot by police.

But when innocent white people are ACTUALLY BEING VICTIMIZED, and their government doesn't help, so they take matters into their own hands, now the BLM think it's just the worst thing ever.

Black logic.

Im sure this was aimed (the throwing chairs and what not) at the ones doing the 'victimizing', right?

You sure have a fun imagination of 'taking matters into their own hands'

[LJJ]

That article OP used is hilarious.


fascist terror.


This wave of far-right violence is taking place amid a wave of racist hysteria spread by politicians and the media following alleged sexual attacks by immigrants in Cologne on New Years’ Eve.


can only be described as an organised pogrom.

:lol



Anyway the important thing is that this is what happens when Nazis riot in the streets:

http://i.imgur.com/PSntbEX.png

Good. Excellent! Lets hope the next time women are raped and assaulted in the streets by Muslim rape gangs the police acts swiftly and decisively like this.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Im sure this was aimed (the throwing chairs and what not) at the ones doing the 'victimizing', right?

You sure have a fun imagination of 'taking matters into their own hands'

Again, and again and again, it's acceptable for blacks to destroy communities after their friends get busted for comitting violent crimes, but it's not ok for victimized whites to do the same when their government refuses to protect them. I can tell, you are really smart and objective, no bias at all.

Again, and again, that is black logic.

[DonDadda59]

According to your brain dead logic, Germany destroyed itself during WW2?

Punks jump up to get beat down. :confusedshrug:

[fiddy]

Punks jump up to get beat down. :confusedshrug:
Nazi germany>>>>any form of the land of the fake

[DonDadda59]

Nazi germany>>>>any form of the land of the fake

https://ladygeekgirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/captainamericahitler.jpg

:yaohappy:

[fiddy]

https://ladygeekgirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/captainamericahitler.jpg

:yaohappy:
one on one, US had no chance

[DonDadda59]

one on one, US had no chance

:whatever:

https://media.giphy.com/media/APNXnSYadQYO4/giphy.gif

http://bestanimations.com/Military/Explosions/nuclear-atom-bomg-explosion-animated-gif-6.gif

[Jameerthefear]

stop responding to the third world jackass. he's just some bulgarian f*cker that lives in a shack in the middle of nowhere. not sure how he even gets internet.

[fiddy]

:whatever:

https://media.giphy.com/media/APNXnSYadQYO4/giphy.gif

http://bestanimations.com/Military/Explosions/nuclear-atom-bomg-explosion-animated-gif-6.gif
hydrogen bomb>>>>>
ICBM>>>>



stop responding to the third world jackass. he's just some bulgarian f*cker that lives in a shack in the middle of nowhere. not sure how he even gets internet.

havent had an ass licking from you in a while

[DonDadda59]

hydrogen bomb>>>>>
ICBM>>>>

The Nazis were chased out of Russia all the way back to Berlin by an ill-equipped bunch of rag tag Soviets. They couldn't see Uncle Sam in all out combat. Not a chance in hell.

[fiddy]

The Nazis were chased out of Russia all the way back to Berlin by an ill-equipped bunch of rag tag Soviets. They couldn't see Uncle Sam in all out combat. Not a chance in hell.
You cant be serious.

[DonDadda59]

You cant be serious.

Dead serious, you Nazi bitch :crazysam:

Hitler's weak ass would've shot himself in the head inside of 6 months f*cking with Uncle Sam.

[fiddy]

Dead serious, you Nazi bitch :crazysam:

Hitler's weak ass would've shot himself in the head inside of 6 months f*cking with Uncle Sam.
:roll: one on one Uncle Sam would have the feathers taken off from that ugly eagle in no time, you can double Uncle Sam you still had no chance against the German technology and discipline

[9erempiree]

You two are both idiots.

Look at you two argue among yourselves and look what you are arguing about when everyone left the thread.

:facepalm

[fiddy]

You two are both idiots.

Look at you two argue among yourselves and look what you are arguing about when everyone left the thread.

:facepalm
The thread was a failure anyway, OP posted some retarded article

[DonDadda59]

:roll: one on one Uncle Sam would have the feathers taken off from that ugly eagle in no time, you can double Uncle Sam you still had no chance against the German technology and discipline

The Nazis couldn't take out England and got spanked by Soviets using second-hand equipment.

But they could see Uncle Sam in a one on one? :yaohappy:


You two are both idiots.

Look at you two argue among yourselves and look what you are arguing about when everyone left the thread.

:facepalm

You cheerlead for Nazis. Kill yourself.

[BasedTom]

The Nazis couldn't take out England and got spanked by Soviets using second-hand equipment.

But they could see Uncle Sam in a one on one? :yaohappy:



You cheerlead for Nazis. Kill yourself.
says ISIS's biggest fan on insidehoops :oldlol:

[fiddy]

The Nazis couldn't take out England and got spanked by Soviets using second-hand equipment.

But they could see Uncle Sam in a one on one? :yaohappy:


Battling on three fronts, with low mineral resources? No one has ever been successful in invading the Russians, no one cans stand that climate. All military capacity focused against Uncle Sam equal to a blitzkrieg victory for the Germans :yaohappy:

[DonDadda59]

says ISIS's biggest fan on insidehoops :oldlol:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393580

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395281

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395392

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11992016&postcount=10

LOL.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/909/724/562.jpg

[fiddy]

LOL.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/909/724/562.jpg
Supporting U.S. in Syria= supporting ISIS.

[DonDadda59]

Battling on three fronts, with low mineral resources? No one has ever been successful in invading the Russians, no one cans stand that climate. All military capacity focused against Uncle Sam equal to a blitzkrieg victory for the Germans :yaohappy:

*Losing on three fronts.

Nazis were a bunch of fugazis. As soon as things looked bad, bitch ass Hitler took the coward's way out. Typical.

[oarabbus]

Battling on three fronts, with low mineral resources? No one has ever been successful in invading the Russians, no one cans stand that climate. All military capacity focused against Uncle Sam equal to a blitzkrieg victory for the Germans :yaohappy:


A+++ level trolling or retardation

[poido123]

The Nazis were chased out of Russia all the way back to Berlin by an ill-equipped bunch of rag tag Soviets. They couldn't see Uncle Sam in all out combat. Not a chance in hell.


Here's someone who clearly has no clue about war history :facepalm


German's were in the box seat before they mistakenly bit more than they could chew by entering Russia, taking on the harsh weather conditions and stretching their supply lines too much.


The Germans were superior at all levels, but made one big mistake which cost them the war.

[DonDadda59]

Here's someone who clearly has no clue about war history :facepalm


German's were in the box seat before they mistakenly bit more than they could chew by entering Russia, taking on the harsh weather conditions and stretching their supply lines too much.


The Germans were superior at all levels, but made one big mistake which cost them the war.

AKA a military blunder made by an incompetent 'Fuhrer' and his yes men generals that led to their destruction? Wow, so superior at all levels. :applause:

[poido123]

AKA a military blunder made by an incompetent 'Fuhrer' and his yes men generals that led to their destruction? Wow, so superior at all levels. :applause:



A very cruel, and sick man was Hitler.


No denying that his army, weaponry and soldiers were superior to others.


I'm glad he made a big mistake, because australia would be speaking japanese today if he had his way.

[Dresta]

What idiots fail to understand is that while every nation deals with homegrown morons, the worst possible scenario is to import more malcontents. To deal with your own garbage is inevitable, to bring in more garbage is intolerable.
Yeah, well duh; but something about this logic slips the mind of people like Dondadda, either because they're ill-informed, or because they actually like to create chaos and to make people's lives needlessly unpleasant (so they can then laugh about it and mock the people's lives who have actually been turned upside down). Perhaps it is the bitterness and envy born of not having a tradition of his own to care about - so instead, he can only childishly mock those of others, which of course, makes him feel better about the impermanence of his own existence.

Since when is the correct response to having a bunch of restless young men making trouble, the importation of a load more restless young men (from living conditions that very often brutalise, no less)? When will this fool acknowledge the faultiness of his logic?

Oh, and considering this topic has drifted onto WW2; no, America could not possibly have competed with Nazi Germany on its lonesome; America at this time was still a non-militaristic country for the most part (which is a good thing); but, had they been located anywhere near to Germany, and been attacked in 1939, they would not have lasted very long. Any examination of the relative military strength of the two nations at the time would attest to this fact. But America had a noble tradition of isolationism and a limited military (because the founders always considered a standing army a drain on public finances, a way of racking up the public debt and making a small number of people very rich at the expense of the people) - the original intent was actually to cultivate the military spirit of the citizen, so that the citizen would not have to rely on armed mercenaries for their protection (this is actually what the 2nd Amendment specifically says).

Contrary to popular wisdom in Britain and the USA, most of the important fighting in this war took place in the Eastern theatre, not in the West, which was just a sideshow. And i find it difficult to conclude that our side was even fighting for 'good' in this war - this is the war that made America a world military power, dismantled the British Empire (replacing it often with the half-arsed American form of imperialism, which created large imbalances and conflicts that continue to create problems, all over the world), and consigned a large part of Europe to the control of the Soviets. The allies also fire-bombed most of Germany, in what would today be unmistakably recognised as a war crime, as did Truman decide to nuke Japan twice. The long-term effects of this war were not good, but disastrous.

It also somehow managed to get ideological totalitarianism associated with the phrase "Right-Wing" - with the 'extreme right' and 'Fascism' becoming interchangeable words (when they have no bearing on one another: the Feuillants and then ultra-royalists of the French Revolutionary period - i.e. the original "far-right" were not fascists; if anyone was "fascist" it was Robespierre and his fellow Jacobins of the left). Fascism, in practice, was just a milder form of socialism (which is actually how that former socialist, Mussolini, got to fascism - "why do we need to own all business and industry, when we can simply control what they do?" is the logic that leads from socialism to fascism - that is if the word is to mean anything other than "something i don't like and think is mean").

There is actually considerable debate among historians as to whether the nazis can even be regarded as fascists, and not as something altogether unique. The racial and jew-hating element of nazism was actually a specifically nazi thing, not a fascist thing - therein lies a clear difference between the two.

[Im Still Ballin]

Let's be clear about this

Ridiculous Extreme Liberal politics naturally bring "Far Right Extremism" to the equation

[HitandRun Reggie]

says ISIS's biggest fan on insidehoops :oldlol:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5b/a7/ce/5ba7ce23fbf26fb66aa81cf8ccac5bf9.gif

[poido123]

Let's be clear about this

Ridiculous Extreme Liberal politics naturally bring "Far Right Extremism" to the equation



Exactly.


I do not support Nazi sentiment or their twisted past. But I do support the neo-nazi's movement to take a stand against the government's force fed policies of handouts for immigrants and the latest rape epidemic.


This was bound to happen, too much misinformation and deflection going on in the far left party. Being called racist for placing criticism on religion is one of the warped tactics used to distort the truth.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Yeah, well duh; but something about this logic slips the mind of people like Dondadda, either because they're ill-informed, or because they actually like to create chaos and to make people's lives needlessly unpleasant (so they can then laugh about it and mock the people's lives who have actually been turned upside down). Perhaps it is the bitterness and envy born of not having a tradition of his own to care about - so instead, he can only childishly mock those of others, which of course, makes him feel better about the impermanence of his own existence.

Since when is the correct response to having a bunch of restless young men making trouble, the importation of a load more restless young men (from living conditions that very often brutalise, no less)? When will this fool acknowledge the faultiness of his logic?

Oh, and considering this topic has drifted onto WW2; no, America could not possibly have competed with Nazi Germany on its lonesome; America at this time was still a non-militaristic country for the most part (which is a good thing); but, had they been located anywhere near to Germany, and been attacked in 1939, they would not have lasted very long. Any examination of the relative military strength of the two nations at the time would attest to this fact. But America had a noble tradition of isolationism and a limited military (because the founders always considered a standing army a drain on public finances, a way of racking up the public debt and making a small number of people very rich at the expense of the people) - the original intent was actually to cultivate the military spirit of the citizen, so that the citizen would not have to rely on armed mercenaries for their protection (this is actually what the 2nd Amendment specifically says).

Contrary to popular wisdom in Britain and the USA, most of the important fighting in this war took place in the Eastern theatre, not in the West, which was just a sideshow. And i find it difficult to conclude that our side was even fighting for 'good' in this war - this is the war that made America a world military power, dismantled the British Empire (replacing it often with the half-arsed American form of imperialism, which created large imbalances and conflicts that continue to create problems, all over the world), and consigned a large part of Europe to the control of the Soviets. The allies also fire-bombed most of Germany, in what would today be unmistakably recognised as a war crime, as did Truman decide to nuke Japan twice. The long-term effects of this war were not good, but disastrous.

It also somehow managed to get ideological totalitarianism associated with the phrase "Right-Wing" - with the 'extreme right' and 'Fascism' becoming interchangeable words (when they have no bearing on one another: the Feuillants and then ultra-royalists of the French Revolutionary period - i.e. the original "far-right" were not fascists; if anyone was "fascist" it was Robespierre and his fellow Jacobins of the left). Fascism, in practice, was just a milder form of socialism (which is actually how that former socialist, Mussolini, got to fascism - "why do we need to own all business and industry, when we can simply control what they do?" is the logic that leads from socialism to fascism - that is if the word is to mean anything other than "something i don't like and think is mean").

There is actually considerable debate among historians as to whether the nazis can even be regarded as fascists, and not as something altogether unique. The racial and jew-hating element of nazism was actually a specifically nazi thing, not a fascist thing - therein lies a clear difference between the two.
:biggums:

[Dresta]

:biggums:
It's true mahn. There was no need for either Britain or the US to get involved in WW1, and if they never did that, then the rise of Hitler and WW2 is far less likely. Moreover, Stalin was every bit the moral monstrosity Hitler was, and he was our ally - we effectively gave him Eastern Europe too, consigning hundreds of millions of people to 50-odd years of Soviet backwardness, of half-lives, causing a vast corruption of moral and ethical standards that still persists (it's only recently reached the point in Poland where you don't bribe police after they pull you over any more)

I dunno. I find it a hard one to balance out being Polish. My Grandfather was a child in nazi-occupied Warsaw, and German soldiers could shoot Poles for whatever reason they pleased; they also destroyed the entire city, but again, Stalin in his viciousness, is who let them do it. Perhaps it would have been better just to let the nazis and Soviets annihilate one another: it is pretty much what we did for 3+ years anyway. Just maybe if we'd got less involved we'd have had the strength and resolution to stand up for Central Europe, rather than capitulating to a military that had suffered more losses than any other.

And again, the firebombing of German civilians, carried out by the RAF, was more than a little barbaric in itself (and had nothing to do with the Holocaust). But obviously this was a difficult time, and it's easy to point out possible counterfactuals without the pressure of the moment to deal with - I am not condemning our side really, just pointing out that we tend to overly romanticise such conflicts, and it often affects the public sentiment in a very delusive (and negative way): i.e. "we da bess, we beat da nazis; we good, you bad, we gonna blow you away" - i just find that when ww2 is brought up, it is more often than not, as a distraction, an emotive rallying call that stops people from thinking.

Politicians who are always fatuously comparing their enemies to Hitler, and their political opponents to Neville Chamberlain (making them Churchill obv.), need to be put down - they are, without exception, megalomaniacal maniacs who seem to get a kick from bombing people, posing next to air-force jets, and other militaristic flimflam.

[ThePhantomCreep]

It's comical how righties stan for Nazi Germany--they even come up with absurd scenarios wherein Hitler and his buddies whip on our flabby American asses. :lol

Truth is, it took the US 3 1/2 years to surpass Germany in tanks, planes, artillery, etc. Our ability to mobilize for war was second to none, and the Nazis would have bankrupted themselves trying to keep up.

[fiddy]

It's comical how righties stan for Nazi Germany--they even come up with absurd scenarios wherein Hitler and his buddies whip on our flabby American asses. :lol

Truth is, it took the US 3 1/2 years to surpass Germany in tanks, planes, artillery, etc. Our ability to mobilize for war was second to none, and the Nazis would have bankrupted themselves trying to keep up.
Because the U.S. stole all of Germany's scientist after ww2 dummy :facepalm

[poido123]

It's comical how righties stan for Nazi Germany--they even come up with absurd scenarios wherein Hitler and his buddies whip on our flabby American asses. :lol

Truth is, it took the US 3 1/2 years to surpass Germany in tanks, planes, artillery, etc. Our ability to mobilize for war was second to none, and the Nazis would have bankrupted themselves trying to keep up.



No one here does. No one here condones Nazi Germany and their horrid past.


But truth be told, Germany was more than a match for everyone, outside of 1 big logistical mistake. Had they not gone into Russia, things could of went a lot different.

[StephHamann]

But truth be told, Germany was more than a match for everyone, outside of 1 big logistical mistake. Had they not gone into Russia, things could of went a lot different.

That was not a mistake, the whole reason for starting to war was gaining "Lebensraum Ost" colonize eastern Europe.

Hitler never planed to fight France and England, when both declared war on Germany on 03.09.1939 the war was basically lost because they never prepared for a war against the western nations.

Even after the miracle win against France they had no idea how to beat England, they just assumed England would sue for pace, after that did not happen the war was 100% lost.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Because the U.S. stole all of Germany's scientist after ww2 dummy :facepalm

:wtf:

Who said anything about after the war?

By 1945, America's military force was larger than Germany's ever was, and the advantage would have continued to grow. Just look at the difference in size between the two naval forces, it's astronomical. There's no way the Germans would have kept the US off their ass.

[dunksby]

The extent of measures people, unconsciously or consciously, take to rationalize their extreme beliefs is pretty extreme.

[Dresta]

It's comical how righties stan for Nazi Germany--they even come up with absurd scenarios wherein Hitler and his buddies whip on our flabby American asses. :lol

Truth is, it took the US 3 1/2 years to surpass Germany in tanks, planes, artillery, etc. Our ability to mobilize for war was second to none, and the Nazis would have bankrupted themselves trying to keep up.
:facepalm

Who is "stanning for Nazi Germany" exactly you thick shit?

Only a person with severe brain damage would deny that the damage had already been done to the nazis before the US had even got involved with a Western front. Christ, it's pretty widely believed that Hitler declared war on the USA to distract from the enormous losses they were suffering in the stalling campaign to the East. The difference in magnitude between the two fronts was so vast that it proves very much what a sideshow it truly was:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/World-War-II-military-deaths-in-Europe-by-theater-year.png

7/8ths of all German division-months in WWII were spent on the Eastern Front. The serious fighting was nearly all done in the East; the war was lost at Stalingrad tbh.

Yeah, but i guess pointing out this fact, and having a problem with the Soviet Union being a great victor of that war, as well as the firebombing of German civilians is somehow 'stanning for nazis' :rolleyes: - you really, really need to grow up a bit.

How much of a close-minded eegit can you be exactly? You basically prove my point about people always making emotional comparisons to the nazis when they haven't got an argument to make. Thanks for that.

[Terahite]

It's comical how righties stan for Nazi Germany--they even come up with absurd scenarios wherein Hitler and his buddies whip on our flabby American asses. :lol

Truth is, it took the US 3 1/2 years to surpass Germany in tanks, planes, artillery, etc. Our ability to mobilize for war was second to none, and the Nazis would have bankrupted themselves trying to keep up.

You are a lover of everything the popular media endorses. Every post from you proves you know nothing about history, deep politics, the party system, corporatism, criminal conspiracies, the spiritual element. You are an automaton of idiocy and have already been exposed here before so just shut the fk up and do some serious reading for once. :facepalm

[Nick Young]

It's comical how righties stan for Nazi Germany--they even come up with absurd scenarios wherein Hitler and his buddies whip on our flabby American asses. :lol

Truth is, it took the US 3 1/2 years to surpass Germany in tanks, planes, artillery, etc. Our ability to mobilize for war was second to none, and the Nazis would have bankrupted themselves trying to keep up.
We took all of the best German scientists and engineers, you dope.


Who is stanning for Nazi Germany in here?:facepalm


Nazi Germany was a pro-censorship totalitarian state dedicated to racial and cultural segregation. Sounds pretty left wing to me, considering all the young lefties today are fighting so hard to end freedom of speech and are against "cultural appropriation".

[fiddy]

:wtf:

Who said anything about after the war?

By 1945, America's military force was larger than Germany's ever was, and the advantage would have continued to grow. Just look at the difference in size between the two naval forces, it's astronomical. There's no way the Germans would have kept the US off their ass.
quality>quantity

Nazi technology> U.S. technology