Real talk, finals mvp is worth NOTHING after last years finals

[clutchinho]

The fact curry got 0 votes exposed every single media voted award to be a joke.

[stalkerforlife]

I lost a ton of respect for JVG...used to love the guy.

Curry was obviously the finals MVP, but JVG pushed his agenda and people listened.

[raiderfan19]

26/6/5 on 44/39 as the clear cut best player on the winning team. No idea how he didn't win it.

[SyRyanYang]

26/6/5 on 44/39 as the clear cut best player on the winning team. No idea how he didn't win it.

Iggy winning as a bench player is a better narrative to push. It's voted by a dozen journalists, what do you expect?
They just want a better story to write about.

[plowking]

The 7 people that voted for Iggy were the only ones that thought he was the FMVP.

Curry only had 1.5 bad games. Probably less than anyone else in the series.

[Wade's Rings]

Iggy deserved the Finals MVP.

[Sarcastic]

26/6/5 on 44/39 as the clear cut best player on the winning team. No idea how he didn't win it.


Because if you actually watched the series, instead of just read stats, you'd know that Iggy was the most valuable player for the Warriors.

[stalkerforlife]

Iggy deserved the Finals MVP.

Idiot. :lol

[Wade's Rings]

Because if you actually watched the series, instead of just read stats, you'd know that Iggy was the most valuable player for the Warriors.

Actually agree with this guy. Iggy deserved his Finals MVP.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The 7 people that voted for Iggy were the only ones that thought he was the FMVP.

Curry only had 1.5 bad games. Probably less than anyone else in the series.


:applause: :applause:

[mans1ay3r]

Because if you actually watched the series, instead of just read stats, you'd know that Iggy was the most valuable player for the Warriors.
Pretty much how I remember it. Without even looking at the stats I remember Iggy doing big things for the team and Delly giving Curry problems. Too many people just look at the stats. Everyone was hating on Delly for playing such tight defense on Curry, no one seems to remember that huh? He's a PG but Curry had to keep passing at times when he didn't even want to, Delly was being annoying af. Iggy helped big time to alleviate what Delly was doing to Curry.

That's what I remember without looking at fcking stats.

[SyRyanYang]

Because if you actually watched the series, instead of just read stats, you'd know that Iggy was the 3rd most valuable player for the Warriors.

FTFY

[konex]

Because if you actually watched the series, instead of just read stats, you'd know that Iggy was the most valuable player for the Warriors.

Here's the thing, they still win that series without Iggy. They don't win without Steph

[FKAri]

Iggy played way above his standard and Curry played a bit below his. Iggy was also crucial in the games they won. That was the reasoning they used even though Iggy wasn't their best player.

[Wade's Rings]

Here's the thing, they still win that series without Iggy. They don't win without Steph

They lose without Iggy. Lebron was killing the other GSW defenders and Iggy sparked some Runs while making some Big Plays.

[konex]

They lose without Iggy. Lebron was killing the other GSW defenders and Iggy sparked some Runs while making some Big Plays.

Bron shot under 40% for the series. He wasn't killing anyone

[AirBonner]

Bron shot under 40% for the series. He wasn't killing anyone
Agree. He was shooting Kobe averages

[Bankaii]

Iggy deserved the Finals MVP.
100% agree.

[Bankaii]

Bron shot under 40% for the series. He wasn't killing anyone
Look at Lebrons stats against Iggy vs against everyone else that guarded him.

Iggy was the reason he shot so poorly.

[Hittin_Shots]

Iggys player helped off iggy giving him wide open shots.. when the attention is not on you the guy taking the attention is clearly viewed as more important and that is very valuable to the team.

[bdreason]

I lost faith in 2007.

[SouBeachTalents]

I lost faith in 2007.

You think Duncan should have won over Parker?

[tmacattack33]

Cleveland's entire offense was Lebron though. And Lebron was sh*tting on Green and Barnes. Igoudala played him amazingly.

They had no Irving or Love. When Lebron was on the bench, Jr Smith and the other guys were like 4-27 on FG over the entire series or something hilarious like that.

So, guarding Lebron was huge obviously.

And offensively, Igoudla wasn't too bad either...16 ppg and 4 assists per game and only 1 turnover per game. They left him open for some threes, but he also made some nice passes as he has borderline great vision.

Curry also averaged 4.7 turnovers per game that the OP never mentioned.

[Wade's Rings]

Bron shot under 40% for the series. He wasn't killing anyone

He shot 33% when guarded by Iggy but was around 45% IIRC on other defenders. If he put up 36/13/9 on 45% shooting and played better in the 4th Quarters (Assuming Iggy isn't there and his %'s increase although Bron can still choke) the Cavs more then likely win.

[Wade's Rings]

100% agree.

Something we actually agree on.

[SyRyanYang]

Cleveland's entire offense was Lebron though. And Lebron was sh*tting on Green and Barnes. Igoudala played him amazingly.

They had no Irving or Love. When Lebron was on the bench, Jr Smith and the other guys were like 4-27 on FG over the entire series or something hilarious like that.

So, guarding Lebron was huge obviously.

And offensively, Igoudla wasn't too bad either...16 ppg and 4 assists per game and only 1 turnover per game. They left him open for some threes, but he also made some nice passes as he has borderline great vision.

Curry also averaged 4.7 turnovers per game that the OP never mentioned.

GSW's offense was mostly Curry too. He average lots of TOs because no one else was creating. Iggy's points were mostly from the Cavs trapping Curry on nearly every possession.

[Bankaii]

Something we actually agree on.
Lol:cheers:

[bdreason]

You think Duncan should have won over Parker?


Definitely. Duncan's impact on the game dwarfs Parker's... but Tony was the sexy media pick.

[Wade's Rings]

GSW's offense was mostly Curry too. He average lots of TOs because no one else was creating. Iggy's points were mostly from the Cavs trapping Curry on nearly every possession.

Why do people keep saying this?

He mostly faced single coverage in Games 1-5. The Offense was fine when Curry sat, they even made a couple of runs with him sitting.

[Naero]

It can be chalked up to the recency phenomenon. Once there is mid-series buzz over a Finals MVP candidate

[TommyGriffin]

Why do people keep saying this?

He mostly faced single coverage in Games 1-5. The Offense was fine when Curry sat, they even made a couple of runs with him sitting.

This is a lie. :no:

[SyRyanYang]

Why do people keep saying this?

He mostly faced single coverage in Games 1-5. The Offense was fine when Curry sat, they even made a couple of runs with him sitting.

They double him after every pick 'n roll. That's where their offense starts.

[Naero]

Why do people keep saying this?

He mostly faced single coverage in Games 1-5. The Offense was fine when Curry sat, they even made a couple of runs with him sitting.

Not entirely true.

Curry may not have been double-teamed instantly, but he is almost invariably double-teamed in the Pick'N'Roll defensive schemes. Usually when a screen is set for Curry on the perimeter, both defenders hedge on Curry; this is the genesis for many primary and secondary assists for Curry—many of which Iguodala himself is the beneficiary of—as it scrambles the defense and causes rotational mismatches.

This is what many overlook about Curry's playmaking impact; defenses almost always hedge closely on Curry, because they'd usually prefer two points off of a mismatch as opposed to a near-automatic three-pointer for Curry. It makes Curry indispensable for his role as the initiator in the Warrior's five-man ball-movement offense.

[Bankaii]

They double him after every pick 'n roll. That's where their offense starts.
Idk if you're exaggerating or being serious but either way you're wrong.

There were multiple times when TT got left alone guarding Curry on the perimeter, Mozgov too. It wasn't anywhere near every pick and roll.

And most of the time it was a quick Closeout by both players to stop a 3, then they went back to single coverage. This myth that curry was being relentlessly doubled every time he crossed half court is horrible revisionist history.

[Wade's Rings]

[QUOTE=Naero]Not entirely true.

Curry may not have been double-teamed instantly, but he is almost invariably double-teamed in the Pick'N'Roll defensive schemes. Usually when a screen is set for Curry on the perimeter, both defenders hedge on Curry; this is the genesis for many primary and secondary assists for Curry

[raiderfan19]

I did watch the series and yes steph struggled relative to himself but he was still great other than game 2 and the beginning of game 3. The thing is we compare him to him. He shot the same percentages that Reggie miller shot for his career essentially while putting up 26/6/5. The best player on the team that wins always wins fmvp barring a monster performance from a teammate. They even had essentially the same true shooting% due to the ft shooting despite iggy constantly being left wide open. 26/5.2/6.3/1.8/.2 on .585 ts vs 16.3/5.8/4.0/1.3/.3 on .588 ts. I get that iggy is a great defender but if that won fmvp awards a ton of them would be different

[stalkerforlife]

Why do people keep saying this?

He mostly faced single coverage in Games 1-5. The Offense was fine when Curry sat, they even made a couple of runs with him sitting.

:biggums:

[ClipperRevival]

I did watch the series and yes steph struggled relative to himself but he was still great other than game 2 and the beginning of game 3. The thing is we compare him to him. He shot the same percentages that Reggie miller shot for his career essentially while putting up 26/6/5. The best player on the team that wins always wins fmvp barring a monster performance from a teammate. They even had essentially the same true shooting% due to the ft shooting despite iggy constantly being left wide open. 26/5.2/6.3/1.8/.2 on .585 ts vs 16.3/5.8/4.0/1.3/.3 on .588 ts. I get that iggy is a great defender but if that won fmvp awards a ton of them would be different

His D on Bron can't be underestimated. Sure, if Curry won the fmvp, it would boost his resume a tad but anyone who watched that finals will always know that he was "the man" and clearly their best player. That's all that matters.

But Iggy did have a huge impact not just defensively but offensively. He was shooting WAY above his normal level.

[Straight_Ballin]

Cleveland's entire offense was Lebron though. And Lebron was sh*tting on Green and Barnes. Igoudala played him amazingly.

They had no Irving or Love. When Lebron was on the bench, Jr Smith and the other guys were like 4-27 on FG over the entire series or something hilarious like that.

So, guarding Lebron was huge obviously.

And offensively, Igoudla wasn't too bad either...16 ppg and 4 assists per game and only 1 turnover per game. They left him open for some threes, but he also made some nice passes as he has borderline great vision.

Curry also averaged 4.7 turnovers per game that the OP never mentioned.

Didn't lebron sit out 18 min total the whole finals? So he was out an average 3 minutes per 48 minutes?

[Wade's Rings]

I did watch the series and yes steph struggled relative to himself but he was still great other than game 2 and the beginning of game 3. The thing is we compare him to him. He shot the same percentages that Reggie miller shot for his career essentially while putting up 26/6/5. The best player on the team that wins always wins fmvp barring a monster performance from a teammate. They even had essentially the same true shooting% due to the ft shooting despite iggy constantly being left wide open. 26/5.2/6.3/1.8/.2 on .585 ts vs 16.3/5.8/4.0/1.3/.3 on .588 ts. I get that iggy is a great defender but if that won fmvp awards a ton of them would be different

He helped make runs off the bench and made big plays. The Warriors also went 3-0 once he started. His impact was deeper than his defense.

[feyki]

26/6/5 on 44/39 as the clear cut best player on the winning team. No idea how he didn't win it.


Curry averaged 104 offrat at that finals , same as Lebron .

[Inferno]

Because if you actually watched the series, instead of just read stats, you'd know that Iggy was the most valuable player for the Warriors.

Eh, I watched the series and a lot of the offense basically revolved around Steph getting doubled and swinging it around...I personally had Steph winning the MVP but I'm ok with Iggy too :applause: