This may be the best evidence that proves the NBA was never rigged

[kennethgriffin]

2004 NBA Finals - Kobe (lebron missing playoffs)
2007 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe losing 1st round)
2008 NBA Finals - Kobe (Lebron losing 2nd round)
2009 NBA Finals - Kobe (Lebron losing 3rd round)
2010 NBA Finals - Kobe (Lebron losing 2nd round)
2011 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe losing 2nd round)
2012 NBA Finals - Lebron (NBA rapes LA with chris paul veto, 2nd round loss)
2013 NBA Finals - Lebron (paul veto+nash injury causes kobes achilles rupture)
2014 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe misses season due to injury)
2015 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe misses season due to injury)




the NBA practically tried to stand in the way of a historical finals ratings


gutting the lakers roster with revenue sharing, luxury tax and veto's

ending kobes career early due to kobe having to play 40 mpg to cover for players that should never have been lakers to begin with


if the league was ever fixed in even the slightest possible way. since 2004 there would have been a kobe vs lebron finals

period

[Im Still Ballin]

What are your thoughts on Curry

[kennethgriffin]

What are your thoughts on Curry


depends on the question

[Im Still Ballin]

Is Steph better than prime Kobe

[kennethgriffin]

Is Steph better than prime Kobe


in terms of shooting beyond 15 feet and ball handling. yes

everything else i'd say kobes better at


attacking the rim/penitrating/dunking/drawing fouls/posting up/footwork/close shots/midrange shots/contested shots/clutch play/on ball defense/team defense/rebounding/ blocks/ steals etc... i'd say kobes better at those things


plus kobe has more consecutive 50 point games ( 4 ) than curry has in his entire career combined ( 3 )

and kobes half time record ( 55 ) is better than currys career high ( 54 )

[FKAri]

just say "missed playoffs". No need to get all defensive and write out entire sentences excusing him for it :lol

[kennethgriffin]

just say "missed playoffs". No need to get all defensive and write out entire sentences excusing him for it :lol


if a guy plays 2 weeks of the season. does it count as an injured year or missing the playoffs


some people dont even count jordans failure in 1995 because he missed most of the season. but he actually played and was fully healthy when he lost to the magic


so whatever

[MP.Trey]

I love how when Kobe loses the OP makes excuses but when LeBron loses, it's just another loss. :oldlol:

[nba_55]

2001, 2002 and 2010 all had rigged games in favor of LAL, get over it.

[kennethgriffin]

I love how when Kobe loses the OP makes excuses but when LeBron loses, it's just another loss. :oldlol:


which years when lebron lost did he rip his achilles/break his leg/rip a shoulder tendon in which all required season ending surgery

[kennethgriffin]

2001, 2002 and 2010 all had rigged games in favor of LAL, get over it.



i think youre in the wrong thread

[riseagainst]

2001, 2002 and 2010 all had rigged games in favor of LAL, get over it.

:biggums:

[nba_55]

:biggums:

game 7 obviously

[kennethgriffin]

game 7 obviously


i think hes reacting to your mistake of putting 2001 instead of 2000


and if 2000 was rigged. then LA never goes down by 15 before their 4th quarter run


the lakers came back mostly on desperation threes and kobes play making/jumpers

[nba_55]

i think hes reacting to your mistake of putting 2001 instead of 2000


and if 2000 was rigged. then LA never goes down by 15 before their 4th quarter run


the lakers came back mostly on desperation threes and kobes play making/jumpers

They don't comeback without the huge help from the refs.

[kennethgriffin]

They don't comeback without the huge help from the refs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27vW0L8E-MI


0:38 - Shaq layup ( cuts lead to 13 )

0:59 - Kobe clean block ( preventing 2 points )

1:08 - Shaw three pointer ( cuts lead to 10 )

2:56 - pippen missed three/ no contact or foul

3:01 - intentional foul on kobe breakaway dunk attempt ( cuts lead to 9 )

4:06 - wallace missed jumper/ no contact or foul

4:17 - wallace missed jumper/ no contact or foul

5:14 - Shaq fouled on dunk attempt/rasheed admits he fouled shaq onpurpose ...nodding head/bob costas refers to it... ( cuts lead to 8 )

6:33 - Pippen loses ball. deflected by shaw/ no contact or foul ( no score for lakers on other end. no issue with turnover regardless )

7:33 - Bonzi Wells misses three/ no contact or foul

7:59 - Horry three pointer ( cuts lead to 5 )

8:25 - Pippen misses wide open jump shot/ no contact or foul, grant loses rebound. ( horry charge on other end. no score regardless )




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I


0:41 - Sheed misses open shot/ no contact or foul

0:59 - Kobe jump shot ( cuts lead to 3 )

1:23 - Smith misses shot. great contest by kobe on the ball ( offensive rebound for portland regardless )

1:43 - Wild missed shot by wallace/shaq contested/no contact or foul

2:18 - clean block by shaq on grant shot ( portland gets ball back )

2:27 - Wallace misses wide open jumper

2:59 - Shaw three pointer ( tie game )







please explain how the refs help LA get back in the game

[choppermagic]

They don't comeback without the huge help from the refs.

Another desperate attempt by the conspiracy nuts.

"I'll ignore the other three quarters where the lakers were getting beat because they dont fit my narrative.. and then only focus on tiny samples so i can base my crazy theories on".


So dude, why isn't the Lakers in the running for the Finals this year, or the last year, etc.? Because your conspiracy theory ignores anything it wants too. And in 2008? When the lakers were pulling way more fouls than the Celtics in getting beat? Where were you then?

[nba_55]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27vW0L8E-MI


0:38 - Shaq layup ( cuts lead to 13 )

0:59 - Kobe clean block ( preventing 2 points )

1:08 - Shaw three pointer ( cuts lead to 10 )

2:56 - pippen missed three/ no contact or foul

3:01 - intentional foul on kobe breakaway dunk attempt ( cuts lead to 9 )

4:06 - wallace missed jumper/ no contact or foul

4:17 - wallace missed jumper/ no contact or foul

5:14 - Shaq fouled on dunk attempt/rasheed admits he fouled shaq onpurpose ...nodding head/bob costas refers to it... ( cuts lead to 8 )

6:33 - Pippen loses ball. deflected by shaw/ no contact or foul ( no score for lakers on other end. no issue with turnover regardless )

7:33 - Bonzi Wells misses three/ no contact or foul

7:59 - Horry three pointer ( cuts lead to 5 )

8:25 - Pippen misses wide open jump shot/ no contact or foul, grant loses rebound. ( horry charge on other end. no score regardless )




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I


0:41 - Sheed misses open shot/ no contact or foul

0:59 - Kobe jump shot ( cuts lead to 3 )

1:23 - Smith misses shot. great contest by kobe on the ball ( offensive rebound for portland regardless )

1:43 - Wild missed shot by wallace/shaq contested/no contact or foul

2:18 - clean block by shaq on grant shot ( portland gets ball back )

2:27 - Wallace misses wide open jumper

2:59 - Shaw three pointer ( tie game )







please explain how the refs help LA get back in the game



Why did you ignore the phantom calls on Sabonis who was the key for the Blazers?
Why are you ignoring Shaq's offensive fouls? Why are you ignoring Shaq spending more than 5 seconds in the paint?

[kennethgriffin]

Why did you ignore the phantom calls on Sabonis who was the key for the Blazers?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27vW0L8E-MI


4:38 - sabonis elbow into shaqs ribs

4:49 - sabonis shoves shaq with forearm

4:41 - sabonis handchecking shaq

4:42 - shaq spin move while sabonis again shoves elbow into shaq




shaq may have spun and tried to clear some space. but he was fouled 4 times on that one play

[kennethgriffin]

Why are you ignoring Shaq's offensive fouls? Why are you ignoring Shaq spending more than 5 seconds in the paint?


on which plays?

[nba_55]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27vW0L8E-MI


4:38 - sabonis elbow into shaqs ribs

4:49 - sabonis shoves shaq with forearm

4:41 - sabonis handchecking shaq

4:42 - shaq spin move while sabonis again shoves elbow into shaq




shaq may have spun and tried to clear some space. but he was fouled 4 times on that one play
:roll: :roll: :roll:
That's normal post defense. What Shaq did was an offensive foul. What about his 6th foul?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I
5:37

[nba_55]

on which plays?

The one where Sabonis was called for a foul and 7:47

[nba_55]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I
8:32- Clean block
7:35- Goaltend

[kennethgriffin]

:roll: :roll: :roll:
That's normal post defense. What Shaq did was an offensive foul. What about his 6th foul?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I
5:37


where in the rule book does it say you can elbow the offensive player and shove him from behind


you can use your forarm to hold your ground. you cant throw it into the offensive player


sorry

and 5:51 sabonis lays both arms ontop of shaqs back right before hes about to go up


are you ****ing blind?

[LoneyROY7]

in terms of shooting beyond 15 feet and ball handling. yes

everything else i'd say kobes better at


attacking the rim/penitrating/dunking/drawing fouls/posting up/footwork/close shots/midrange shots/contested shots/clutch play/on ball defense/team defense/rebounding/ blocks/ steals etc... i'd say kobes better at those things


plus kobe has more consecutive 50 point games ( 4 ) than curry has in his entire career combined ( 3 )

and kobes half time record ( 55 ) is better than currys career high ( 54 )

It's amazing that with all those advantages, Kobe has never come close to the kind of season that Curry is putting up now.

[nba_55]

where in the rule book does it say you can elbow the offensive player and shove him from behind


you can use your forarm to hold your ground. you cant throw it into the offensive player


sorry

Where does it say you can elbow the defensive player? No, he didn't elbow Shaq, shaq elbowed him. And his 6th foul was even more phantom. Refs knew if they took Sabonis away, Blazers would be done.

[kennethgriffin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I
8:32- Clean block
7:35- Goaltend


8:32 might have been clean. but rasheed wasnt called for a tech after mimicking kobe falling down at 8:08. he just rolls over and acts like a child.. obvious taunting foul or showing up refs

7:35 was goaltending. which is why the refs called it and gave portland 2 points

you ****ing blind idiot

:oldlol:

[nba_55]

8:32 might have been clean. but rasheed wasnt called for a tech after mimicking kobe falling down at 8:08. he just rolls over and acts like a child.. obvious taunting foul or showing up refs

7:35 was goaltending. which is why the refs called it and gave portland 2 points

you ****ing blind idiot

:oldlol:

When did I say I wasn't called goaltend? And 8:32 was clean, period. Phantom calls on Sabonis changed the whole game and made the LAL come back possible.

[choppermagic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27vW0L8E-MI


0:38 - Shaq layup ( cuts lead to 13 )

0:59 - Kobe clean block ( preventing 2 points )

1:08 - Shaw three pointer ( cuts lead to 10 )

2:56 - pippen missed three/ no contact or foul

3:01 - intentional foul on kobe breakaway dunk attempt ( cuts lead to 9 )

4:06 - wallace missed jumper/ no contact or foul

4:17 - wallace missed jumper/ no contact or foul

5:14 - Shaq fouled on dunk attempt/rasheed admits he fouled shaq onpurpose ...nodding head/bob costas refers to it... ( cuts lead to 8 )

6:33 - Pippen loses ball. deflected by shaw/ no contact or foul ( no score for lakers on other end. no issue with turnover regardless )

7:33 - Bonzi Wells misses three/ no contact or foul

7:59 - Horry three pointer ( cuts lead to 5 )

8:25 - Pippen misses wide open jump shot/ no contact or foul, grant loses rebound. ( horry charge on other end. no score regardless )




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I


0:41 - Sheed misses open shot/ no contact or foul

0:59 - Kobe jump shot ( cuts lead to 3 )

1:23 - Smith misses shot. great contest by kobe on the ball ( offensive rebound for portland regardless )

1:43 - Wild missed shot by wallace/shaq contested/no contact or foul

2:18 - clean block by shaq on grant shot ( portland gets ball back )

2:27 - Wallace misses wide open jumper

2:59 - Shaw three pointer ( tie game )







please explain how the refs help LA get back in the game




Great post. People are just spewing hate to find their "conspiracy" that they desperately want to believe in.

What i find hilarious is that all these nuts say that the refs and the NBA did all this conspiracy stuff to gift the Championships to the Lakers, who were apparently undeserving... HOWEVER when you ask these same conspiracy nuts about Kobe Bryant, they belittle him saying how STACKED the Lakers were at the time and how a team of Shaq, Phil Jackson, Horry, etc. were simply unbeatable anyway so Kobe was nothing but a lucky scrub, etc. LOL. They flip flop pretty fast to give praise to the team when knocking Kobe.

[kennethgriffin]

Where does it say you can elbow the defensive player? No, he didn't elbow Shaq, shaq elbowed him. And his 6th foul was even more phantom. Refs knew if they took Sabonis away, Blazers would be done.


do you know what an elbow is ?



http://i63.tinypic.com/2qso58k.png


you should stop listening to snapper jones and bill walton the buttbuddy kobe hating/portland fans

[kennethgriffin]

When did I say I wasn't called goaltend? And 8:32 was clean, period. Phantom calls on Sabonis changed the whole game and made the LAL come back possible.


they werent phantom though


sabonis elbowed shaq the first time

and sabonis laid BOTH arms ontop of shaqs back while he was going up on the 2nd foul

[kennethgriffin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3WRMyXw_I


why is sabonis resting his left arm ontop of shaq from 5:49 till 5:02

i wonder if thats in the rule book

[TheBigVeto]

2004 NBA Finals - Kobe (lebron missing playoffs)
2007 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe losing 1st round)
2008 NBA Finals - Kobe (Lebron losing 2nd round)
2009 NBA Finals - Kobe (Lebron losing 3rd round)
2010 NBA Finals - Kobe (Lebron losing 2nd round)
2011 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe losing 2nd round)
2012 NBA Finals - Lebron (NBA rapes LA with chris paul veto, 2nd round loss)
2013 NBA Finals - Lebron (paul veto+nash injury causes kobes achilles rupture)
2014 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe misses season due to injury)
2015 NBA Finals - Lebron (Kobe misses season due to injury)




the NBA practically tried to stand in the way of a historical finals ratings


gutting the lakers roster with revenue sharing, luxury tax and veto's

ending kobes career early due to kobe having to play 40 mpg to cover for players that should never have been lakers to begin with


if the league was ever fixed in even the slightest possible way. since 2004 there would have been a kobe vs lebron finals

period

Wrong.
Any Lakers appearance in the NBA finals during David Stern era is proof that the NBA is rigged.

[knicksman]

nba's strategy is to create another jordan. First it was kobe thats why there are lots of rigged games in favor of lakers. Then next is lebron. The guy basically had a playoff run full of rigged games coz hes not as good as kobe despite having a superteam. Once stern retired, team game is back. San antonio then gsw winning

[buddha]

thought you were going somewhere else with this like that the NBA made sure one of the games biggest stars was in the finals every y ear.

[AnaheimLakers24]

They don't comeback without the huge help from the refs.
Retarded virgin