Impressive/underrated 5 year runs.

[ClipperRevival]

I'll start with a few:

Wilt (1960 - 1964):
41.7 PPG, 25.3 RPG, 3.0 APG, 30.0 PER

MJ (1987 - 1991):
33.9 PPG, 52% FG, 6.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.9 SPG, 1.1 BPG, 31.1 PER

Baylor (1960 - 1964):
31.9 PPG, 16.0 RPG, 4.5 APG, 25.5 PER

Oscar (1961 - 1965):
30.3 PPG, 10.4 RPG, 10.6 APG, 26.2 PER

LeBron (2009 - 2013):
27.8 PPG, 52% FG, 7.6 RPG, 7.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, .9 BPG, 30.4 PER

KAJ (1971 - 1975):
30.8 PPG, 15.5 RPG, 4.3 APG, 3.4 BPG, 27.6 PER

Shaq (1998 - 2002):
28.2 PPG, 57% FG, 12.0 RPG, 3.1 APG, 2.4 BPG, 30.0 PER

West (1962 - 1966):
29.9 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.5 APG, 23.8 PER

Iverson (2002 - 2006):
29.9 PPG, 6.6 APG, 22.5 PER

McAdoo (1974 - 1978):
29.8 PPG, 13.4 RPG, 2.1 BPG, 52% FG, 23.6 PER

Gervin (1978 - 1982):
29.8 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 52% FG, 23.8 PER

K. Malone (1988 - 1992):
29.0 PPG, 11.4 RPG, 53% FG, 24.5 PER

Barry (1967 - 1972):
31.8 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 4.0 APG, 23.9 PER

Durant (2010 - 2014):
29.3 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3.9 APG, 26.9 PER

Melo (2010 - 2014):
26.6 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 3.1 APG, 23.0 PER

Bird (1984 - 1986):
27.3 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 6.8 APG, 1.8 SPG, 26.1 PER

Barkley (1987 - 1991):
26.0 PPG, 12.1 RPG, 4.0 APG, 59% FG, 27.1 PER

Robinson (1992 - 1996):
25.9 PPG, 11.5 RPG, 3.4 APG, 1.7 SPG, 3.5 BPG, 28.2 PER

English (1983 - 1987):
28.2 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 4.6 APG, 51% FG, 22.0 PER

McGrady (2001 - 2005):
27.6 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.3 APG, 25.6 PER

Isiah (1983 - 1987):
21.4 PPG, 10.7 APG, 2.3 SPG, 20.4 PER

CP3 (2008 - 2012):
19.7 PPG, 10.5 APG, 2.5 SPG, 26.8 PER

Pettit (1959 - 1963):
28.6 PPG, 17.5 RPG, 25.2 PER

Hayes (1969 - 1973):
26.2 PPG, 16.0 RPG, 18.7 PER

Ewing (1990 - 1994):
25.6 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 3.0 BPG, 23.2 PER

Erving (1972 - 1976):
28.7 PPG, 12.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 2.4 SPG, 2.0 BPG, 26.4 PER

Pierce (2002 - 2006):
24.7 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 4.3 APG, 22.0 PER

Archibald (1972 - 1976):
27.3 PPG, 8.7 APG, 22.2 PER

Hill (1996 - 2000):
21.9 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, 23.1 PER

Rodman (1992 - 1996):
17.3 RPG

Havlicek (1970 - 1974):
25.4 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 6.9 APG, 19.5 PER




Underrated

D. Howard (2008 - 2012):
20.6 PPG, 59% FG, 13.9 RPG, 2.5 BPG, 24.5 PER

K. Johnson (1989 - 1993):
20.5 PPG, 10.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 21.2 PER

Drexler (1988 - 1992):
24.8 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 6.0 APG, 2.2 SPG, 23.1 PER

Dantley (1980 - 1984):
30.0 PPG, 57% FG, 24.4 PER :eek:

Mullins (1989 - 1993):
25.8 PPG, 52% FG, 5.6 RPG, 4.1 APG, 1.9 SPG, 21.1 PER

Hardaway (1991 - 1996):
20.6 PPG, 9.5 APG, 1.9 SPG, 19.4 PER

Vandeweghe (1983 - 1987):
26.1 PPG, 54% FG, 20.5 PER

Aguirre (1984- 1988):
25.8 PPG, 21.7 PER

Pippen (1991 - 1995):
20.1 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.4 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 21.4 PER

Moncrief (1982 - 1986):
21.0 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 20.5 PER

Thurmond (1966 - 1970):
19.5 PPG, 19.7 RPG

Gilmore (1972 - 1976):
22.3 PPG, 17.1 RPG, 3.4 BPG, 23.5 PER

Webber (1999 - 2003):
24.1 PPG, 10.0 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 22.8 PER

Mourning (1993 - 1997):
21.4 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 3.0 BPG, 21.3 PER

Robertson (1986 - 1990):
18.0 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 6.1 APG, 3.2 SPG, 18.7 PER

King (1982 - 1987):
25.6 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 55% FG, 21.7 PER

[Dr Hawk]

Kobe, one of the consistency kings, deserves a mention to me:

Kobe (2006-2010):

29.8 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 5 APG, 25 PER

[aj1987]

Dwyane Wade ('06-'10):

27.4 PPG 5.0 RPG 7.0 APG. 2.0 SPG 1.0 BPG on 48.5% 27.6 PER

[Odinn]

Impressive and underrated at the same time.

Moses Malone from 1978-79 to 1982-83;
RS; 26.8 PPG / 15.4 RPG / 1.7 APG / 1.6 BPG / 1.0 SPG on .580 TS
PS; 26.1 PPG / 15.2 RPG / 1.6 APG / 1.8 BPG / 0.8 SPG on .551 TS

3x MVP
1x FMVP
3x All-NBA 1st Team, 2x All-NBA 2nd Team
1x All-D 1st Team, 1x All-D 2nd Team

The only back-to-back MVP on different teams. Led that poor 1980-81 Rockets to the Finals. And led the Sixers to their last championship in a historical season.

[Dr Hawk]

Kevin Garnett (2003 - 2007):

22.7 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 5 APG, 27 PER

Hakeem Olajuwon (1989 - 1993):

23.8 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 2.6 APG, 2.1 SPG, 4.1 BPG, 25 PER

[Sarcastic]

Dominique Wilkins from 85-89 put up 29/7/3. One of the most underrated players of all time.

[Leroy Jetson]

John Stockton is criminally underrated on ISH.

87-91

16.4 pts @.523 fg% 13.97 Ast and 2.92 Stl Per Game.

You rarely see 14 assists in a single game now much less average for five years.

That means Stockton was directly involved in at least 44 PPG not even counting the steals.

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe, one of the consistency kings, deserves a mention to me:

Kobe (2006-2010):

29.8 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 5 APG, 25 PER

Shooting percentages?

[Mr Feeny]

Dwyane Wade ('06-'10):

27.4 PPG 5.0 RPG 7.0 APG. 2.0 SPG 1.0 BPG on 48.5% 27.6 PER

Wow. That's nearly as good as MJ, Shaq, and Lebron's runs.
Remarkable.

[plowking]

Is it just me that sees that Wilt, Bron, Jordan and Shaq are in a league of their own in terms of basketball players? Not just due to this thread, but these have always been my general thoughts.

They're quite clearly IMO, the best to ever play.

[Dr Hawk]

Shooting percentages?

.459 FG% .565 TS%

[Mr Feeny]

.459 FG% .565 TS%

Not bad but nothing amazing either. He's never been the most efficient player. I think Wade's 5 year stretch (posted by the Wade fan) is even better.
But thanks for the input! OP should include all the numbers you guys are coming up with in his list!

[DMAVS41]

Just on stats....Dirk...03-07

25/9/3...1 steal / 1 block....58.3% TS...26 PER

Playoffs...08-12

27/9/3...1 steal / 1 block....61.2% TS...26.2 PER

[Mr Feeny]

Is it just me that sees that Wilt, Bron, Jordan and Shaq are in a league of their own in terms of basketball players? Not just due to this thread, but these have always been my general thoughts.

They're quite clearly IMO, the best to ever play.Yeah I think most would agree. Wilt is polarising because of the era in which he played in (pace, relative lack of skills, different rules etc etc) but the other 3 are almost unquestionably the 3 best basketball players of all time if we're focusing on peak.

[Dr Hawk]

Is it just me that sees that Wilt, Bron, Jordan and Shaq are in a league of their own in terms of basketball players? Not just due to this thread, but these have always been my general thoughts.

They're quite clearly IMO, the best to ever play.
Kareem is in that group as well

[Coach Eddie]

Dominique Wilkins from 85-89 put up 29/7/3. One of the most underrated players of all time.
Can not agree more.

[Sarcastic]

Yeah I think most would agree. Wilt is polarising because of the era in which he played in (pace, relative lack of skills, different rules etc etc) but the other 3 are almost unquestionably the 3 best basketball players of all time if we're focusing on peak.

You have to add Magic to that list. He has an 8 year run averaging 20/7/12. His numbers at PG are incredible.

[Dr Hawk]

You have to add Magic to that list. He has an 8 year run averaging 20/7/12. His numbers at PG are incredible.
:bowdown:

[Dr Hawk]

There are so many players with great stats. What makes then so easy to decide between each other sometimes? Why is it so easy to say Duncan > Garnett when their production is similar?

[bizil]

Dominique Wilkins from 85-89 put up 29/7/3. One of the most underrated players of all time.

I agree! When u consider the numbers Nique put up AS WELL as his role in the Golden Age NBA, I think Nique has become underrated. He has more career points than ANY SF in NBA history. Nique was also a great player for a long ass time. And he was VERY IMPORTANT in growing the game on a worldwide level. Not being a 1st ballot HOFer and being left off the 50 greatest list are CLEAR REASONS why Nique was underrated.

[HOoopCityJones]

There are so many players with great stats. What makes then so easy to decide between each other sometimes? Why is it so easy to say Duncan > Garnett when their production is similar?

Same guy who'll tell you rings don't mean much will turn around and tell you Duncan is better because of rings.

[Sarcastic]

Just on stats....Dirk...03-07

25/9/3...1 steal / 1 block....58.3% TS...26 PER

Playoffs...08-12

27/9/3...1 steal / 1 block....61.2% TS...26.2 PER


How is this underrated? Shooting wise it's great, but some of the others being posted blow these numbers out the water. On top of that he got an MVP, which is the highest recognition one can receive.

[ClipperRevival]

Nique actually had a 10 year run (1985 - 1994) where he averaged 28.0 PPG. Truly one of the GOAT alpha dog scorers ever.

[feyki]

30-16-4-1-3 , %58.5 TS in between 74-77 playoffs (100 poss) .

Lanier .

[ClipperRevival]

There are so many players with great stats. What makes then so easy to decide between each other sometimes? Why is it so easy to say Duncan > Garnett when their production is similar?

When ranking GOAT, peak is just one variable. There is also personal accolades, rings, and longevity. Duncan has the edge in all three. 1 more regular season MVP, 4 more rings, 3 more fmvp and he stayed at an elite level longer. All that matters. Not to mention, Duncan is GOAT at 2 positions.

[Dr Hawk]

When ranking GOAT, peak is just one variable. There is also personal accolades, rings, and longevity. Duncan has the edge in all three. 1 more regular season MVP, 4 more rings, 3 more fmvp and he stayed at an elite level longer. All that matters. Not to mention, Duncan is GOAT at 2 positions.

I find it highly unfair to keep rings into account when comparing Duncan and Garnett when the latter has had terrible teams during his tenure in Minnesota.

Their primes are really comparable to me.

He has only won just 1 MVP less when he has had terrible teams. And MVP's are highly dependant on your team's record. The only time he had a team in Minnesota (with past prime Sprewell and Cassell, is not like they were an incredibly deep and talented team), he got the MVP, because he had for the first time in his career, team success. He had the stats before and after, but lacked a proper team.

4 more rings and 3 more FMVPs, which depend almost 100% on your team, if you are able to reach the Finals and win them.

Their production across 2000 to 2010 are almost identical:

Tim Duncan:

21.1/11.6/3.3/0.8/2.3 blocks .505 FG%

110 ORtg 95 DRtg

.552 TS% 6.1 BPM

Kevin Garnett:

21/11.7/4.5/1.3/1.5 blocks .500 FG%

112 ORtg 98 DRtg

.555 TS% 6.9 BPM

The gap between them comes when we factor in the teams they played in

[DMAVS41]

How is this underrated? Shooting wise it's great, but some of the others being posted blow these numbers out the water. On top of that he got an MVP, which is the highest recognition one can receive.

I was going with impressive...

[Queen Sansa]

Wow. That's nearly as good as MJ, Shaq, and Lebron's runs.
Remarkable.

He did miss a lot of games in 07 and 08, but yeah, dude played at a really high level. Injuries friggin' suck :mad:

[ClipperRevival]

I find it highly unfair to keep rings into account when comparing Duncan and Garnett when the latter has had terrible teams during his tenure in Minnesota.

Their primes are really comparable to me.

He has only won just 1 MVP less when he has had terrible teams. And MVP's are highly dependant on your team's record. The only time he had a team in Minnesota (with past prime Sprewell and Cassell, is not like they were an incredibly deep and talented team), he got the MVP, because he had for the first time in his career, team success. He had the stats before and after, but lacked a proper team.

4 more rings and 3 more FMVPs, which depend almost 100% on your team, if you are able to reach the Finals and win them.

Their production across 2000 to 2010 are almost identical:

Tim Duncan:

21.1/11.6/3.3/0.8/2.3 blocks .505 FG%

110 ORtg 95 DRtg

.552 TS% 6.1 BPM

Kevin Garnett:

21/11.7/4.5/1.3/1.5 blocks .500 FG%

112 ORtg 98 DRtg

.555 TS% 6.9 BPM

The gap between them comes when we factor in the teams they played in

I see your points. If you compare them individually as players, they were very similar. That's why there are different topics to discuss like peak, GOAT list and individual player comparisons. If anyone said they would take KG over Duncan to start a team, I wouldn't object to it.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Dude, you can delete your own posts. You only need a mod to delete threads iirc.

[ArbitraryWater]

Is it just me that sees that Wilt, Bron, Jordan and Shaq are in a league of their own in terms of basketball players? Not just due to this thread, but these have always been my general thoughts.

They're quite clearly IMO, the best to ever play.

Agree, but you gotta add Kareem.. those 5 to me are rather clearly the 5 best ever.

[jayfan]

Underrated


Aguirre (1984- 1988):
25.8 PPG, 21.7 PER



Definitely underrated, if not forgotten. Aguirre was the truth in Dallas, but he had attitude issues that overshadowed his dominance. He then went to Detroit, fixed his attitude, and was still underrated because he was overshadowed by teammates who had already made the Finals without him.







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[bizil]

Definitely underrated, if not forgotten. Aguirre was the truth in Dallas, but he had attitude issues that overshadowed his dominance. He then went to Detroit, fixed his attitude, and was still underrated because he was overshadowed by teammates who had already made the Finals without him.







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I agree! Aguirre was a FLAT OUT beast back in the Dallas days. When it came to total scoring skillset, I think Bird and Aguirre had the top two for SF's in that era. He definitely seemed on an HOF caliber track. He went to Detroit and got two rings, but as u stated he was overshadowed.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I'll start with a few:

Wilt (1960 - 1964):
41.7 PPG, 25.3 RPG, 3.0 APG, 30.0 PER - overrated (weak era)

MJ (1987 - 1991):
33.9 PPG, 52% FG, 6.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.9 SPG, 1.1 BPG, 31.1 PER- impressive (it was well known late 80s MJ was an absolute stat stuffer)

Baylor (1960 - 1964):
31.9 PPG, 16.0 RPG, 4.5 APG, 25.5 PER- overrated (weak era)

Oscar (1961 - 1965):
30.3 PPG, 10.4 RPG, 10.6 APG, 26.2 PER- overrated (although still impressive to average a triple double)

LeBron (2009 - 2013):
27.8 PPG, 52% FG, 7.6 RPG, 7.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, .9 BPG, 30.4 PER
-overrated (got destroyed in the 2011 finals and had a loaded team from 2010-2013)

KAJ (1971 - 1975):
30.8 PPG, 15.5 RPG, 4.3 APG, 3.4 BPG, 27.6 PER- overrated (The Knicks were really good back then but even though I love the 70s teams, if that was considered top 2-3 team of the decade, that's pretty weak)

Shaq (1998 - 2002):
28.2 PPG, 57% FG, 12.0 RPG, 3.1 APG, 2.4 BPG, 30.0 PER
-impressive (The West was stacked in the top 8 seeds during those years)

West (1962 - 1966):
29.9 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.5 APG, 23.8 PER
-overrated (weak era)

Iverson (2002 - 2006):
29.9 PPG, 6.6 APG, 22.5 PER
-impressive/overrated (somewhere in between, poor FG%, meh PER).

McAdoo (1974 - 1978):
29.8 PPG, 13.4 RPG, 2.1 BPG, 52% FG, 23.6 PER

-underrated (not talked about enough)

Gervin (1978 - 1982):
29.8 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 52% FG, 23.8 PER
-overrated (didn't win anything substantial, stat stuffer)

K. Malone (1988 - 1992):
29.0 PPG, 11.4 RPG, 53% FG, 24.5 PER
-underrated/impressive (was a great passer too for a big guy)

Barry (1967 - 1972):
31.8 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 4.0 APG, 23.9 PER
-overrated (weak era)

Durant (2010 - 2014):
29.3 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3.9 APG, 26.9 PER
-impressive (higher APG if Russ wasn't on the team. Needs a stronger supporting cast to actually win anything. Russ and him can't do everything)

Melo (2010 - 2014):
26.6 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 3.1 APG, 23.0 PER
-underrated/impressive (in between, Melo hasn't gotten much better since he was in a Nuggets jersey). He reached his peak but he's been playing very well this year.

Bird (1984 - 1986):
27.3 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 6.8 APG, 1.8 SPG, 26.1 PER
-impressive (his shooting was ridiculous back in the day, 1.8 steals with the athleticism he had is really impressive)

Barkley (1987 - 1991):
26.0 PPG, 12.1 RPG, 4.0 APG, 59% FG, 27.1 PER
-impressive (6'7'' guys shouldn't be able to give you 26/12/4 in one of the strongest eras in NBA basketball)

Robinson (1992 - 1996):
25.9 PPG, 11.5 RPG, 3.4 APG, 1.7 SPG, 3.5 BPG, 28.2 PER
-overrated (Never won a title, Hakeem toyed with Robinson in the playoffs. Dream shake on Robinson by Hakeem is a legendary NBA play).

English (1983 - 1987):
28.2 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 4.6 APG, 51% FG, 22.0 PER
-underrated (a great player who is rarely talked about. Spent a lot of his career on a mediocre team).

McGrady (2001 - 2005):
27.6 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.3 APG, 25.6 PER
-impressive (low FG% but did a lot with a really bad team. Individually, he was out of this world considering he came over after having a breakout season out of his common role player usage he had on the Raptors)

Isiah (1983 - 1987):
21.4 PPG, 10.7 APG, 2.3 SPG, 20.4 PER
-underrated/impressive (So under appreciated it's unbelievable. I still can't believe ESPN rated Curry higher on Isiah on all time PG lists. Isiah is Chris Paul with the fiery/championship demeanor who doesn't care what you think of him as long as he win rings).

CP3 (2008 - 2012):
19.7 PPG, 10.5 APG, 2.5 SPG, 26.8 PER
-underrated/impressive (he did a lot with a NO team that had some talent but not a lot of talent. Couldn't do much with the talent he had).

Pettit (1959 - 1963):
28.6 PPG, 17.5 RPG, 25.2 PER
-overrated (weak era)

Hayes (1969 - 1973):
26.2 PPG, 16.0 RPG, 18.7 PER
-overrated (that's a very low PER for those type of stats)

Ewing (1990 - 1994):
25.6 PPG, 11.3 RPG, 3.0 BPG, 23.2 PER
-impressive (Ewing came to NYC with a really far fetch comparison that hung onto him through the earlier years- he was compared to Bill Russell and a lot of people thought he could bring a ring to MSG/NY but Jordan was in his prime and Hakeem simply is a better player than Ewing). He's beloved here even if he was overrated coming out.

Erving (1972 - 1976):
28.7 PPG, 12.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 2.4 SPG, 2.0 BPG, 26.4 PER
-impressive (Are you sure it was Erving?).

Pierce (2002 - 2006):
24.7 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 4.3 APG, 22.0 PER
-impressive (he didn't have much on those Celtics team. Never won anything but put up pretty good numbers for a guy with a limited ceiling due to a noticeable lack of athleticism and quickness).

Archibald (1972 - 1976):
27.3 PPG, 8.7 APG, 22.2 PER
-impressive (solid ppg, apg, per)

Hill (1996 - 2000):
21.9 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, 23.1 PER
-underrated/impressive (We got robbed of seeing a great player develop. Often overrated by those who said he could have been this good if he was healthy. He was a triple double threat without the 30 ppg scoring prowess that LeBron had). Young LeBron was often compared to Grant Hill if anyone was curious.

Rodman (1992 - 1996):
17.3 RPG
-impressive (he was such a good defender, hate to be against him as a rivaling team but as a teammate, he was known to be a great one).

Havlicek (1970 - 1974):
25.4 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 6.9 APG, 19.5 PER

-overrated (not a strong era of NBA baskeball, lower than 20 PER)

Underrated

D. Howard (2008 - 2012):
20.6 PPG, 59% FG, 13.9 RPG, 2.5 BPG, 24.5 PER
-Underrated (I agree, he put up great numbers and reached a final)

K. Johnson (1989 - 1993):
20.5 PPG, 10.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 21.2 PER
-Massively underrated (It's a shame a lot of casual fans today don't know who he was)


Drexler (1988 - 1992):
24.8 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 6.0 APG, 2.2 SPG, 23.1 PER
-Underrated (great athletic wing who was a tier below MJ back in the early 90s)

Dantley (1980 - 1984):
30.0 PPG, 57% FG, 24.4 PER :eek:
-Overrated (wasn't a good teammate, great player on so so teams for many years)

Mullins (1989 - 1993):
25.8 PPG, 52% FG, 5.6 RPG, 4.1 APG, 1.9 SPG, 21.1 PER

-Overrated (Run DMC was a fast past offense, inflated stats)

Hardaway (1991 - 1996):
20.6 PPG, 9.5 APG, 1.9 SPG, 19.4 PER
-Underrated (20/10 machine who should have gotten a lot better if he stayed healthy, had more potential in improving as a defender and to be a better pure PG at times)

Vandeweghe (1983 - 1987):
26.1 PPG, 54% FG, 20.5 PER
-Underrated (who is this?)

Aguirre (1984- 1988):
25.8 PPG, 21.7 PER
-Overrated (he was on the Mavs who had little to no talent back then. Much more impressive run with the Pistons)

Pippen (1991 - 1995):
20.1 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 6.1 APG, 2.4 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 21.4 PER
-Rated (not underrated/overrated, people know of his significance in the first 3 peat)

Moncrief (1982 - 1986):
21.0 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 20.5 PER
-Underrated (MJ once said he was a very tough player to guard)

Thurmond (1966 - 1970):
19.5 PPG, 19.7 RPG
-Underrated (often under the radar, not known by many casual fans)

Gilmore (1972 - 1976):
22.3 PPG, 17.1 RPG, 3.4 BPG, 23.5 PER
-Underrated (very strong numbers, good offense and great defensive abilities)

Webber (1999 - 2003):
24.1 PPG, 10.0 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 22.8 PER
-Underrated (think of a slightly less athletic KG while being a plus defender instead of an elite defender. More crafty passer than KG. Very versatile PF, second to KG at the time in that sense). #3 PF behind KG and TD in his prime.

Mourning (1993 - 1997):
21.4 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 3.0 BPG, 21.3 PER
-Overrated (he should have had a better career than he actually did. Had trouble scoring, despite high block totals I think he was an overrated defender)

Robertson (1986 - 1990):
18.0 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 6.1 APG, 3.2 SPG, 18.7 PER
-Underrated (3.2 steals over 4 year span? Absurd)

King (1982 - 1987):
25.6 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 55% FG, 21.7 PER
-Underrated (often forgotten player of the 80s).


All responses in quote.

[ClipperRevival]

^^^^

Those numbers for J. Erving are accurate but they are from his ABA days.

[ClipperRevival]

In light of the recent Curry GOAT discussions, this should give some fans a perspective on the type of numbers all time great players have put up over a 5 year stretch.

[dhsilv]

The underrated runs have a lot of just barely over allstar level examples. Way too much value by the OP on points per game.

[JohnFreeman]

Wade....jesus

[ClipperRevival]

The underrated runs have a lot of just barely over allstar level examples. Way too much value by the OP on points per game.

Yeah, I was going mostly by PPG and didn't really dig deep. That's why I started this thread to see if anyone can dig up some gems.

[HoopSuperstar]

Got to check pippens 5 year run.

[ClipperRevival]

Hakeem's best run in terms of filling up the stat sheets (1989 - 1993):

23.8 PPG, 13.4 RPG, 2.1 SPG, 4.1 BPG, 51% FG, 25.0 PER


Hakeem's best scoring run (1993 - 1997)

26.2 PPG, 11.2 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.7 SPG, 3.3 BPG, 52% FG, 25.4 PER

[Dr Hawk]

Hakeem's best run in terms of filling up the stat sheets (1989 - 1993):

23.8 PPG, 13.4 RPG, 2.1 SPG, 4.1 BPG, 51% FG, 25.0 PER


Hakeem's best scoring run (1993 - 1997)

26.2 PPG, 11.2 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.7 SPG, 3.3 BPG, 52% FG, 25.4 PER

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

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Hakeem's blocks

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Ponder this for a second.

Hakeem is 29th all time in steals per game with 1.75. The next "big" on that list is D. Robinson at 56th place at 1.41. And we all know how much of a freakish athlete DRob was but Hakeem took that to another level. The guy was the most fluid, coordinated, agile and one of the quickest bigs ever. He took guys off the dribble on offense and created steals on defense in ways no other big could ever do.