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kennethgriffin
01-22-2016, 10:45 AM
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2014-15 National Basketball Players Association MVP = James Harden
2014-15 Associated Press MVP = Steph Curry




2000-2014 NBPA MVP

2000 - Shaq
2001 - Shaq
2002 - Shaq
2003 - Duncan
2004 - Garnett
2005 - Shaq
2006 - Kobe
2007 - Kobe
2008 - Kobe
2009 - Kobe
2010 - Lebron
2011 - Howard
2012 - Lebron
2013 - Lebron
2014 - Durant

Im Still Ballin
01-22-2016, 10:55 AM
Duncan only has 1

interesting

kennethgriffin
01-22-2016, 10:56 AM
Duncan only has 1

interesting

who would you rather have in 2002. shaq or duncan


shaq averaged 27ppg on 58% fg's

lol


and to be honest i was leaning towards kobe being more popular with the players in 2003

duncan probly wouldnt have any

Fallen Angel
01-22-2016, 11:02 AM
Lebron wouldn't have won in 2011, his role wasn't as significant as it was in Cleveland and his popularity with other players decreased. Frankly, he had plenty of games where he played D-Wade's Robin. I would have gave 2011 to Howard or Rose.

kennethgriffin
01-22-2016, 11:06 AM
Lebron wouldn't have won in 2011, his role wasn't as significant as it was in Cleveland and his popularity with other players decreased. Frankly, he had plenty of games where he played D-Wade's Robin. I would have gave 2011 to Howard or Rose.


probly Howard

Im Still Ballin
01-22-2016, 11:15 AM
If Lebron didnt win it in 2011 then he should have won it in 2009

swagga
01-22-2016, 11:28 AM
20 years from now they'll be debating if kobe is top 20. Not even a joke.

aj1987
01-22-2016, 11:30 AM
This guy just changed '11 from LeBron to Howard, so that Kobe with have more... :roll:

kennethgriffin
01-22-2016, 11:34 AM
If Lebron didnt win it in 2011 then he should have won it in 2009



no way in hell lebron was more popular with the players in 2009


dont you remember this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-f49jyMmo

SugarHill
01-22-2016, 11:35 AM
This guy just changed '11 from LeBron to Howard, so that Kobe with have more... :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

swagga
01-22-2016, 11:36 AM
no way in hell lebron was more popular with the players in 2009


dont you remember this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-f49jyMmo

my man, I know this is a popularity contest for you, but actual basketball fans rate basketball skills.

kobe's retirement really got you scrambling tbh.

kennethgriffin
01-22-2016, 11:38 AM
This guy just changed '11 from LeBron to Howard, so that Kobe with have more... :roll:


i remember lebron wasnt too popular with the league at the time. allot of resentment for the initial collude


he probly woulda lost to howard or rose when i think about it

kennethgriffin
01-22-2016, 11:40 AM
my man, I know this is a popularity contest for you, but actual basketball fans rate basketball skills.

kobe's retirement really got you scrambling tbh.


a) whos talking about fans.. this is an NBPA vote discussion. and i provided evidence that the players overwhelmingly pick kobe over lebron all the time


b) as far as fans go


http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-top-nba-players-of-all-time?

aj1987
01-22-2016, 11:42 AM
i remember lebron wasnt too popular with the league at the time. allot of resentment for the initial collude


he probly woulda lost to howard or rose when i think about it
Really?

http://www.ibtimes.com/best-selling-nba-jerseys-2010-2011-280251

SpaceJam
01-22-2016, 11:43 AM
no way in hell lebron was more popular with the players in 2009


dont you remember this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-f49jyMmo

Be honest, is that you at the start of the vid

Fallen Angel
01-22-2016, 11:45 AM
Keep going backwards:

1996- Michael Jordan
1997- Michael Jordan
1998- Michael Jordan
1999- *forfeited*

Smoke117
01-22-2016, 11:45 AM
no way in hell lebron was more popular with the players in 2009


dont you remember this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-f49jyMmo

So what you are saying is this is a popularity contest? It has nothing to do with who was actually the best player...gotcha.

kennethgriffin
01-22-2016, 11:57 AM
So what you are saying is this is a popularity contest? It has nothing to do with who was actually the best player...gotcha.


yes


among guys who know infinitely more about other players than anyone else



the media mvp award is a popularity contest too


all voting in any agenda driven field of argument is popularity driven

SouBeachTalents
01-22-2016, 01:48 PM
yes


among guys who know infinitely more about other players than anyone else



the media mvp award is a popularity contest too


all voting in any agenda driven field of argument is popularity driven

LeBron had clearly better stats and won more games with a far inferior team than Kobe did. Why exactly should Kobe have won MVP over LeBron in '09?