You need one player to absolutely break the will of the opposing team

[sportjames23]

A player who could enforce his will on the game and demoralize the other squad. For one game.

Who you got?


Kobe
Duncan
Durant
GOATbrook
Wade
Lebron
AMC
Melo


All in their primes.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Duncan or Kobe

[kennethgriffin]

kobe quite easly.. his ridiculous shots at their difficulty levels can absolutely demoralize an opponent


more so than anyone else i've ever seen


he made nash cry


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/620033/steve-nash-crying-o-s.gif

[Lakers Fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79y_YCkHhso

:pimp:

[ISHGoat]

Curry, Lebron, or Durant.

These guys play the right way and make the correct basketball decision rather than force up low percentage shots like westbrick, cuckmelo, and kobrick.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Curry, Lebron, or Durant.

These guys play the right way and make the correct basketball decision rather than force up low percentage shots like westbrick, cuckmelo, and kobrick.
Says the no puss.y getting loser.

[Levity]

this made me think of kobe vs the suns in the WCF (?), made that shot against hill (after making several more in his face). you see gentrys heart sink, and kobe takes his rape tendencies to the suns bench by giving alvin an unwanted slap on the butt.

[ISHGoat]

Says the no puss.y getting loser.

:lol

didnt read

rent free

[sportjames23]

this made me think of kobe vs the suns in the WCF (?), made that shot against hill (after making several more in his face). you see gentrys heart sink, and kobe takes his rape tendencies to the suns bench by giving alvin an unwanted slap on the butt.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[tpols]

wade curry or kobe

[Heavincent]

Curry or Kobe.

[AirBonner]

Curry. Kobe is not efficient enough for this discussion.

[WayOfWade]

Curry or Kobe.
Just my thoughts. When I went to go see Curry live in Salt Lake, it was almost demoralizing him just stepping onto the court because you knew no-one was going to stop him, and no one did. These two are also my picks out of the list. No disrespect to Wade, James, or KD or any of those guys they can all demoralize the other team, but I'd go with Steph or Kobe here

[sportjames23]

Now, enforcing one's will doesn't necessarily mean scoring. A player can enforce his will by scoring, defending, controlling the tempo, etc. Magic used to control a game by the way he ran the Lakers offense, especially in crunch time.

[ISHGoat]

Now, enforcing one's will doesn't necessarily mean scoring. A player can enforce his will by scoring, defending, controlling the tempo, etc. Magic used to control a game by the way he ran the Lakers offense, especially in crunch time.

I heard that Kobe is good at forcing stuff off the court.

[Levity]

Curry. Kobe is not efficient enough for this discussion.

psshhh

what makes kobe break the will of other teams is the rate he hits ridiculous shots while being defensively covered pretty damn thoroughly. often times over double teams with the occasional triple team. its why you often heard of coaches saying, "let kobe get his and we'll worry about the rest of the team" because otherwise, defenders feel discouraged.

[Dr Hawk]

Put 02 or 03 Duncan in the current league and he would anally rape anyone

[ISHGoat]

psshhh

what makes kobe break the will of other teams is the rate he hits ridiculous shots while being defensively covered pretty damn thoroughly. often times over double teams with the occasional triple team. its why you often heard of coaches saying, "let kobe get his and we'll worry about the rest of the team" because otherwise, defenders feel discouraged.

So you're saying that opposing coaches game planned around stopping Bean's teammates instead of Mamba himself?

Is this perhaps because Kobe's teammates are more efficient than Kobe and the opposing team would rather Kobe brick turnarounds over 2 defenders than DFish, Odom, Gasol, etc shooting wide open shots and layups?

[Levity]

Is this perhaps because Kobe's teammates are more efficient than Kobe and the opposing team would rather Kobe brick turnarounds over 2 defenders than DFish, Odom, Gasol, etc shooting wide open shots and layups?

no. thats not why, but nice try funny boy

[ISHGoat]

Put 02 or 03 Duncan in the current league and he would anally rape anyone

:roll:

Same could be said for prime Jason Collins and Tony Brothers

[Velocirap31]

Out of that list, it is Kobe for sure. He makes such difficult shots that it is really a 'nothing you can do' sort of situation. Sinks the morale of the opponents.

[AirBonner]

So you're saying that opposing coaches game planned around stopping Bean's teammates instead of Mamba himself?

Is this perhaps because Kobe's teammates are more efficient than Kobe and the opposing team would rather Kobe brick turnarounds over 2 defenders than DFish, Odom, Gasol, etc shooting wide open shots and layups?
shut it down :lol

[ISHGoat]

Out of that list, it is Kobe for sure. He makes such difficult shots that it is really a 'nothing you can do' sort of situation. Sinks the morale of the opponents.

If that's the criteria then it might as well be Dion Waiters or JR Smith. Every shot those knuckleheads take is a terrible "nothing you can do" shot.

Yeah, lets just instead pretend that the rate at which the shot goes in the basket is trivial

[AirBonner]

no. thats not why, but nice try funny boy
Nice retort great discussion skills brah :oldlol:

[MellowYellow]

Curry, Lebron, or Durant.

These guys play the right way and make the correct basketball decision rather than force up low percentage shots like westbrick, cuckmelo, and kobrick.

so dumb, curry is a clinic on how not to play. He is just so damn good that he is still efficient while chucking up shots that would be terrible shots for most players.

[Mass Debator]

wade curry or kobe
yes

[Milbuck]

Kobe. Say what you will about Kobe as an overall player or his career, the guy is one of the most unfairly skilled shotmakers of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx02W5pc7yQ

^ Pretty much the perfect example of demoralizing, breaking the will of an opponent. Not even that crazy a statline, 37 points on 62% TS..great, but nothing otherworldly by Kobe standards. It was the ridiculous shot making though, the way he made the most fundamentally sound, correct decision defense look totally irrelevant in the most pressure situations, in extreme degree of difficulty situations.

Grant Hill talks about it on Open Court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRcJH9evYno&feature=youtu.be&t=2m44s

[Straight_Ballin]

Kobe. Say what you will about Kobe as an overall player or his career, the guy is one of the most unfairly skilled shotmakers of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx02W5pc7yQ

^ Pretty much the perfect example of demoralizing, breaking the will of an opponent. Not even that crazy a statline, 37 points on 62% TS..great, but nothing otherworldly by Kobe standards. It was the ridiculous shot making though, the way he made the most fundamentally sound, correct decision defense look totally irrelevant in the most pressure situations, in extreme degree of difficulty situations.

Grant Hill talks about it on Open Court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRcJH9evYno&feature=youtu.be&t=2m44s

It's interesting how 18 years later all this can be tied to MJ. Kobe watched enough Jordan footage and played for the same man who coached Jordan. Of course he's the obvious pick on the list.

Him and Phil would just discuss for hours on end "here's how Michael would do these difficult shots or here's how MJ handled this defensive scheme" and Kobe would then practice it and try to perfect it as best as he could. He had a proven winning formula to mold his game from and both he and his coach Phil Jackson understood what would give them the highest success rate and that was to mimic MJ. Props to Kobe for recognizing this and living it.

[SpaceJam]

Kobe. Say what you will about Kobe as an overall player or his career, the guy is one of the most unfairly skilled shotmakers of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx02W5pc7yQ

^ Pretty much the perfect example of demoralizing, breaking the will of an opponent. Not even that crazy a statline, 37 points on 62% TS..great, but nothing otherworldly by Kobe standards. It was the ridiculous shot making though, the way he made the most fundamentally sound, correct decision defense look totally irrelevant in the most pressure situations, in extreme degree of difficulty situations.

Grant Hill talks about it on Open Court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRcJH9evYno&feature=youtu.be&t=2m44s

F^ck I'mma miss watching Kobe play

[warriorfan]

Kobe and AMC and of course Jordan are in a league of their own regarding this aspect in my opinion

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Put 02 or 03 Duncan in the current league and he would anally rape anyone

:applause:

[Nick Young]

1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Durant



Duncan isn't a willbreaker, that's not his style, but at his prime he's nearly as effective as prime mamba. That's why I didn't put him higher on the list.

[imnew09]

Kobe. Say what you will about Kobe as an overall player or his career, the guy is one of the most unfairly skilled shotmakers of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx02W5pc7yQ

^ Pretty much the perfect example of demoralizing, breaking the will of an opponent. Not even that crazy a statline, 37 points on 62% TS..great, but nothing otherworldly by Kobe standards. It was the ridiculous shot making though, the way he made the most fundamentally sound, correct decision defense look totally irrelevant in the most pressure situations, in extreme degree of difficulty situations.

Grant Hill talks about it on Open Court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRcJH9evYno&feature=youtu.be&t=2m44s


Finally agree with you man.

Thats what happens when they play zone against Kobe