Silverback Gorilla vs. African Lion

[Im Still Ballin]

Who wins?

[Nick Young]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lWlgHmAPeSFHOw/giphy.gif

[WayOfWade]

I choose the Bald Eagle!
In all seriousness though, the gorilla

[Nikola_]

Gorilla is black lion is white...but lion is dominating black continent :bowdown:
im piciking the spurs

[NumberSix]

The one that's evolved to be a killing machine.

[Long Duck Dong]

Well leopards prey on gorillas and lions prey on leopards so what do you think?

[Nanners]

it probably depends on who gets the jump. if the lion can get its jaws into a gorillas neck area that gorilla is completely ****ed, but on the other hand that gorilla is strong enough to just rip the lions limbs off.

[Im Still Ballin]

Well leopards prey on gorillas and lions prey on leopards so what do you think?
Leopards get stomped by Silverbacks 1 on 1, most people agree on this

The reports of Leopards praying on Gorillas is sketchy at best

[NumberSix]

it probably depends on who gets the jump. if the lion can get its jaws into a gorillas neck that gorilla is ****ed, but on the other hand that gorilla is strong enough to just rip the lions limbs off.
Right, because I'm sure it's super easy to just rip a lions limb off. I'm sure the gorilla would be like "hey guy, don't bite me or slash me with your claws while I try to rip this leg off".

[Nanners]

The one that's evolved to be a killing machine.

right, because hunting down gazelles and shit as part of a pack of hunters is the same thing as fighting a silverback gorilla 1v1

[Im Still Ballin]

Right, because I'm sure it's super easy to just rip a lions limb off. I'm sure the gorilla would be like "hey guy, don't bite me or slash me with your claws while I try to rip this leg off".
Gorillas have superhuman strength

Literally

They can press 4400 pounds overhead

Snap bamboo with ease

They have a stronger bite than lions/tigers

Estimated to have the strength of 10 olympic weight lifters

Strength and weight differential is no problem for a Gorilla

The problem is the claws

But Gorillas have extremely dense bones and huge features


My take on this fight...

An aggressive Gorila with weight parity to the lion wins 60% of the time

The gorilla would tear/dislocate/rip the lions short limbs which would give it more control

The difference maker here is the fact Gorillas have hands and fingers/thumbslike us... infact huge wingspas... That combined with superhuman strength... I think it would overcome the ferocity, feline attack

[Im Still Ballin]

Just so you guys realize how big Gorillas can get, here's a 500 pound mega beast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LILYniR-CYM

There's also a Gorilla that is 6 foot 10 with like an 8 foot wingspan

[NumberSix]

Gorillas have superhuman strength

Literally

They can press 4400 pounds overhead

Snap bamboo with ease

They have a stronger bite than lions/tigers

Estimated to have the strength of 10 olympic weight lifters

Strength and weight differential is no problem for a Gorilla

The problem is the claws

But Gorillas have extremely dense bones and huge features


My take on this fight...

An aggressive Gorila with weight parity to the lion wins 60% of the time

The gorilla would tear/dislocate/rip the lions short limbs which would give it more control

The difference maker here is the fact Gorillas have hands and fingers/thumbslike us... infact huge wingspas... That combined with superhuman strength... I think it would overcome the ferocity, feline attack
Yeah, a gorilla physically strong, but what is it mentally? Animals are what they are and that includes what they are mentally. I know that if YOU had the strength of a Gorilla, you might have the mental capacity to understand things that would give you a chance. A gorilla has a stupid gorilla brain. It just doesn't have the brainpower to do the things you're suggesting would win the fight.

[Nanners]

Yeah, a gorilla physically strong, but what is it mentally? Animals are what they are and that includes what they are mentally. I know that if YOU had the strength of a Gorilla, you might have the mental capacity to understand things that would give you a chance. A gorilla has a stupid gorilla brain. It just doesn't have the brainpower to do the things you're suggesting would win the fight.

apes are among the most intelligent animals on the planet

[NumberSix]

apes are among the most intelligent animals on the planet
Not smart enough to put reason over instinct.

[Im Still Ballin]

If we look at monkey baiting (usually against dogs), monkeys would tend to win

Jacco was a legendary monkey who beat multiple dogs, using the fabled prone neck bite grapple

A smart Gorilla would take the fight to the ground and grapple and bite while using it's otherworldy arm and grip strength to keep head control on the feline

[SugarHill]

A gorilla has absolutely no chance

[Im Still Ballin]

A gorilla has absolutely no chance
Why

[SugarHill]

Lions have them beat in speed, weight, strength, ability, tools and take on multiple hyenas. 2 hyenas would likely kill a gorilla.

[Im Still Ballin]

Lions have them beat in speed, weight, strength, ability, tools and take on multiple hyenas. 2 hyenas would likely kill a gorilla.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[oarabbus]

This is a very good matchup because it all comes down to weight classes. Both silverbacks and lions can f*ck around at ~400lbs. Basically whoever strikes first has the advantage, a gorilla can crush the lions skull with a heavy punch, but if the lion gets his jaws on the gorillas neck it's game over.

Both of these animals would get wrecked by an almighty 1200lb Grizzly though :bowdown: over 1000lbs, double the weight of either, with claws, teeth, and strength :bowdown:

[NumberSix]

Why
Because nature. Some animals are killers and some are not. Gorillas are not very violent animals. It's just not their nature. A gorilla has no desire to kill a lion. It's not a carnivore so it doesn't have the drive to defend hunting territory. It's just not in its nature.

[NumberSix]

This is a very good matchup because it all comes down to weight classes. Both silverbacks and lions can f*ck around at ~400lbs. Basically whoever strikes first has the advantage, a gorilla can crush the lions skull with a heavy punch, but if the lion gets his jaws on the gorillas neck it's game over.

Both of these animals would get wrecked by an almighty 1200lb Grizzly though :bowdown: over 1000lbs, double the weight of either, with claws, teeth, and strength :bowdown:
The lions jaws aren't the gorilla's biggest problem. It's the claws.

[Legends66NBA7]

A herbivore who would rather hide and protect his family vs a top apex predator who hunts things bigger than the said herbivore ?


Tough choice.

[Nanners]

Because nature. Some animals are killers and some are not. Gorillas are not very violent animals. It's just not their nature. A gorilla has no desire to kill a lion. It's not a carnivore so it doesn't have the drive to defend hunting territory. It's just not in its nature.

lions are pack hunters that specifically target weaker prey. a lone lion would never attack an equal sized gorilla. its just not in its nature.

[Nick Young]

Lions have them beat in speed, weight, strength, ability, tools and take on multiple hyenas. 2 hyenas would likely kill a gorilla.
The only advantage lion has is claws and teeth.

Gorilla has a major strength advantage and is probably equally as quick as a lion.

Gorilla wins this by delayed jack hammer suplex in to rear naked choke.

[Nanners]

The only advantage lion has is claws and teeth.


im not even sure the lion has an advantage here.

i dont think opposable thumbs attached to those insanely strong arms is a disadvantage against the comparatively weak and clumsy claws of a lion.

while a lion does have a nice set of teeth, the gorilla has some nice teeth too and actually has twice as much bite force as the lion.

[Draz]

im not even sure the lion has an advantage here.

i dont think a gorillas opposable thumbs attached to those insanely strong arms is a disadvantage against the relatively weak and clumsy claws of a lion.

while a lion does have a nice set of teeth, the gorilla has some nice teeth too and actually has twice as much bite force as the lion.
A bite to the throat it's over famo

[Nanners]

A bite to the throat it's over famo

i dont disagree, whoever gets the first solid hit is probably gonna win.

put both animals in a cage UFC style and I would bet on the gorilla

[DonDadda59]

Science (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr4hn11v8bI) :applause:

[SugarHill]

im not even sure the lion has an advantage here.

i dont think opposable thumbs attached to those insanely strong arms is a disadvantage against the comparatively weak and clumsy claws of a lion.

while a lion does have a nice set of teeth, the gorilla has some nice teeth too and actually has twice as much bite force as the lion.
You severely overestimate gorillas. Like bro:oldlol:

You probably think they can take on tigers which take down fvcking water buffalo. Could a gorilla fvck up a bull too?

[Draz]

i dont disagree, whoever gets the first solid hit is probably gonna win.

put both animals in a cage UFC style and I would bet on the gorilla
BUT, if you think about it UFC still cages limit the environment and fundamentals to either species. We can do different environments, cage match, open world, and streetfighter

[Nick Young]

You severely overestimate gorillas. Like bro:oldlol:

You probably think they can take on tigers which take down fvcking water buffalo. Could a gorilla fvck up a bull to?
Gorillas can deadlift 4,000 pounds bro, a tiger aint shit as long as they lock it up in a clinch and avoid the claws.

[Nick Young]

It really comes down to individuals IMO.

Lions are more feral and based on instinct, so more likely to react similarly.

Let's choose an alpha lion so we know it isn't a coward.


Gorillas are more likely to have different personality types. Some are cowards, some are pacifists, some are badass brock lesnar types.




Lesnar alpha gorilla who is brave and stands his ground, vs alpha lion, Gorilla wins.


Coward gorilla who panics and runs away? Lion wins.

[HitandRun Reggie]

apes are among the most intelligent animals on the planet

Gorillas aren't that smart. There even are a couple of new world monkeys considered more intelligent than gorillas. Generally, the smartest primates are omnivorous, the higher protein diet is what builds large and complex brains. That's how humans developed intelligence so fast.

Plus cat brains are built differently, they don't have primate's raw intelligence but their instincts reacting to hunting and combat are razor sharp.

[Nick Young]

yes i feel like instincts always help a lion make the correct decision for its survival and taking down prey, so basically lions have brains like terminator.



HOWEVER, gorillas are smarter and more creative. Sarah Connor had human intelligence, even she managed to take down a terminator.


Gorillas can bench press 4,400 pounds. I just don't see lion winning.

[Trollsmasher]

let's assume a lion is a poor man's tiger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4t0aeTX954

the lion should be capable of ****ing up gorilla's face with one precise swing and then finish it

[9erempiree]

Draw.

If these two see each other...they both will try and avoid one another.

[Draz]

let's assume a lion is a poor man's tiger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4t0aeTX954

the lion should be capable of ****ing up gorilla's face with one precise swing and then finish it

That ni99a couldn't even joy ride his new bmw got his shit shredded real quick


WOLF VS LION? 1v1?

[zoom17]

I'm taking the Gorilla smarter animal. The gorilla with good and timely blows to the lions jaw could break it.

[zoom17]

lions are pack hunters that specifically target weaker prey. a lone lion would never attack an equal sized gorilla. its just not in its nature.

That's true male lions are lazy as hell.

[Draz]

"King of the Jungle" got built into everyone's head. Lions aren't as agile and strong as male tigers. A fully built tiger will win.

[NumberSix]

im not even sure the lion has an advantage here.

i dont think opposable thumbs attached to those insanely strong arms is a disadvantage against the comparatively weak and clumsy claws of a lion.

while a lion does have a nice set of teeth, the gorilla has some nice teeth too and actually has twice as much bite force as the lion.
You vs a leopard. Who wins?

[Nick Young]

You vs a leopard. Who wins?

Human beats leopard, we have weapons.

[Smook B]

Gorilla F-5s the lion.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Because nature. Some animals are killers and some are not. Gorillas are not very violent animals. It's just not their nature. A gorilla has no desire to kill a lion. It's not a carnivore so it doesn't have the drive to defend hunting territory. It's just not in its nature.

This is a bad argument. Cape Buffalo have no desire to fight either, but they'd happily destroy a lion if they could catch one. Lions are indeed efficient killers, but their desire to destroy everything in its path would quickly dissipate if an adult buffalo suddenly charged at them.

[ThePhantomCreep]

A bite to the throat it's over famo

Gorillas have insanely thick and we'll protected necks, these ain't gazelles yo.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/29004/954711-3972_image2_western_gorilla_mwatson.jpg

Lions thrive on knocking their preying to their side, making it easier to control them. That would never work with a Silverback.

[Im Still Ballin]

There is also a high chance that the Gorilla picks up a sharp stick or rock as well

The only advantage the lion has is claws, but I don't think that's a big deal... Gorillas are built like tanks

Lions are quite lean and one bite to the exposed belly and it would be game over

[Im Still Ballin]

Imagine the organ punches while the lion goes for the gorillas protected neck

Ouch